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« Reply #240 on: 10-17-2007 20:10 »
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I expect Nana to be a prophet-like figure too. Either that or she has similar powers to DL, which would relate to the "Generations" title of this season.

On a semi-related note, I think Sylar's power is most comparable to a mix between Peter and Monica (Micah's girl cousin). He can "steal powers" like Peter can, but, like Monica, he can learn things by watching them happen. This claim will be further backed up if Monica will become able to learn powers by watching others use theirs.

I think that Matt's dad isn't the bad guy. I actually think he has a Matt-esque power and can read minds. However, he doesn't just read them, but can see through them. He's trying to tap into Molly so he can talk to Matt, in my opinion. I really do feel that West is the bad guy, but it seems overly obvious. He's trying to get Claire away from her family. The painting of Noah's death shows a guy with Claire in the backround, which, in my mind, says he had something to do with it. It seems like it points to him too much.

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« Reply #241 on: 10-17-2007 20:37 »

I must point out that not a single example we've seen so far has shown a tendency for /specific/ powers to be inherited, just the gene in general.

The notion that matt's dad is tapping molly to get to matt seems very unlikely to me. She's been talking about this dark, scary guy since she first met matt, why would she already have been afraid of him if he was just using her to get to his son? No, I think Matt's dad is definately a bad guy, in the sense that he's done some really bad things (and will again), though like horn rims, he may be a good guy doing bad things for what he perceives as a greater good. I think everyone in the old club did some bad things, though; the one possible exception being the old guy who died (naturally, apparently), the one peter took care of back at the begining... my gut says he was the voice of polite dissent in the plan to let new york explode.

Oh, nobody's mentioned this but what's with Nate's reflection being scarred? At first I thought the scars were just under the beard or something but now he's shaved...and the most recent time he looked much worse than in the reflection from the pilot..
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« Reply #242 on: 10-17-2007 21:16 »

I have a feeling someone's sending him illusions... possibly thatnew character showing up next week played by Veronica Mars.
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« Reply #243 on: 10-17-2007 21:26 »
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Nah, she'll just be working for some male villian, no real power/authority. Or am I the only one who's noticed the absence of strong female characters in this show? Look at Claire - she's fucking indestructable and she still comes across as weak and needy, and Nikki was a badass, but she was always just doing somebody else's dirty work for basic survival, when she was powerful enough to just kick ass and rule in her own right.

Nichelle Nichols may be the first exception, but it's hard to say yet.
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« Reply #244 on: 10-17-2007 22:10 »

I think the "old guard" women in general are stronger. Nichelle seems like she'll be very strong-willed, and Mama Petrelli seemed like before she went crazy. The Irish girl is a little bit strong-willed, yeah, but that's just one character without powers. The Veronica Mars girl will probably have something to her. Perhaps she's in the opposite position that Suresh is in at the Company.
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« Reply #245 on: 10-18-2007 00:55 »

I agree about Nichelle; I didn't pay attention to the teaser of next week, and avoid rumor/news/spoiler sites so I don't really know anything about this new character.

I've just been peeved lately by rapunzels, both in the media and irl. I used to find the archetype very appealing, the innocent girl waiting for her prince. Now it just irritates me that she doesn't cut her own hair off and rescue her damn self.
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« Reply #246 on: 10-18-2007 10:54 »

I don't think someone is sending Nathan weird fantasy illusions.  Something is messed up with him, probably through the breakdown, and he may still be a part of the final conflict.
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« Reply #247 on: 10-18-2007 12:37 »

Sorry winna, but I agree with Kryten, I think someone's messing with him, using his guilt against him. Probably the same group who put peter in the shipping crate to get him out of the way.
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« Reply #248 on: 10-19-2007 10:08 »

Was a good episode. I really like Monica, what is her power I wonder?

Good to see bad Sylar and I like it when he is connected with thoes Twins.

I kind of like Claire and West's romance.
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« Reply #249 on: 10-19-2007 13:22 »

Monica's power is kinda like the old Marvel villain, Taskmaster. She can duplicate any action she sees instantly.
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« Reply #250 on: 10-19-2007 20:46 »

Then she must have been watching a programme about being hawt!  tongue


Did anyone laugh at the scenes of the Bennett family at the dinner table?
I think they've done it twice now, great stuff.

West and Claire could be the new "Red McGibbon and Bullet: Nazi Hunters." [reference alert!  tongue ]
West could fly really fast and hurl Claire into badguys, tanks, Sylar, terrorists, etc.
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« Reply #251 on: 10-20-2007 01:58 »

 
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Monica's power is kinda like the old Marvel villain, Taskmaster. She can duplicate any action she sees instantly.

She has the Sharingan eye.
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« Reply #252 on: 10-20-2007 20:17 »

Kakashi totally ripped off the Taskmaster.
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« Reply #253 on: 10-23-2007 01:06 »

Veronica Mars. Yaaaaaaay <3
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« Reply #254 on: 10-23-2007 15:31 »

This week's ep...

Best thing: No claire/west. I needed a damned break from that story.

Worst thing: Only token Hiro, no new developments or action.
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« Reply #255 on: 10-23-2007 16:44 »

Damn TV Links co.uk is not working so I won't be able to watch the new episode online
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« Reply #256 on: 10-23-2007 18:08 »

Best things: No Claire/West! Huzzah! Finally movement in the Peter storyline as well.

Worst thing: Definitely Sylar and Hiro not being in the episode at all and not much, respectively, sucked.


I still don't think that Daddy Parkman is the "worse than Sylar" villian for the season. It just doesn't seem right.
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« Reply #257 on: 10-23-2007 20:27 »

Definitely a filler episode, despite the arrival of Psycho Lightning Girl.

Good things: Liking Monica and Irish Girl (though she's probably doomed). Bad things: A severe lack of Sylar and HRG, no real advancement of the Hiro plot, and and Niki/Jessica's still super-annoying.

Interesting trivia note, BTW... Leonard Roberts has now been killed off after one season on THREE sci-fi/fantasy TV shows.
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« Reply #258 on: 10-24-2007 00:00 »

Since Heroes has analogues of quite a high percentage of comicbook superhero powers, I think it'd be cool for them to introduce a Hulk analogue. Mainly because I love to see people transform into gigantic rampaging monsters (it's my hobby). It wouldn't have to be green or anything... just a new Hero that turns into a huge beast of some sort...

...yes...

Also, I actually orgasmed a little bit when Uhura turned up... even though she's like 74... With George Takei, and Zachary Quinto who will be the new Spock, this show is feeling more and more like a Trek convention.
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« Reply #259 on: 10-24-2007 02:11 »

 
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Kakashi totally ripped off the Taskmaster.

Sure, you know that and I know that, but how many other peelers had ever even heard of the Taskmaster before you mentioned him?

 
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Veronica Mars. Yaaaaaaay <3

...and she's eeeeeevil.

At least now we know where Peter's lightning powers came from.

 
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Worst thing: Only token Hiro, no new developments or action.

Seriously.  No Hiro at all last week, and this week only one measly scene?

I still want an all Hiro episode.

 
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I still don't think that Daddy Parkman is the "worse than Sylar" villian for the season. It just doesn't seem right.

No, I don't think he's the main villain.  He is the guy that Molly thought was worse than Sylar, but given what he can do, I think it's understandable why she felt that way.

 
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Interesting trivia note, BTW... Leonard Roberts has now been killed off after one season on THREE sci-fi/fantasy TV shows.

That's assuming he's actually dead.  I still have my doubts am in denial about that.

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« Reply #260 on: 10-24-2007 21:25 »

I agree that Parkman's dad probably isn't the big villian of the season, but I still think he may be the one killing off the rest of the old gang, though if so he's probably acting under orders from someone else.

Though it wasn't terribly substantial, I enjoyed the scenes with Micah and Monica. And I'm glad she doesn't have to see things on TV to learn them, that would've been a really stupid limitation.

And re: peter, when exactly did he learn to paint? He drew/painted the future in the first season, but he didn't have Isaac's actual talent for art, just his ability to see the future in the canvas. Probably just "artistic liscense" from the director, but it's possible that in between exploding and having his memory wiped he picked up any number of new abilities.
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« Reply #261 on: 10-25-2007 18:36 »

Moar Kristin Bell electrocuting dumb Irish accented guys pls... preferably while in a bikini...
(her, not the guys dummy!)

Yeah, wipe them all out so my freakin ears can sigh relief then fire the casting guy.
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« Reply #262 on: 10-25-2007 19:53 »

Yeah... I have to say, this season's starting to slump. We need to get Hio out of the past and Peter out of the bad The Brothers McMullen remake he's stuck in and have Sylar eat RMOD Woman's brain already so we can get to something interesting.
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« Reply #263 on: 10-25-2007 20:20 »

Niki/Jessica is similar to the Hulk.

Now what about someone who has the powers of the swamp?
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« Reply #264 on: 10-25-2007 20:26 »

Niki/Jessica is as close as a television-level special effects budget going to get to the Hulk.
Kryten

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« Reply #265 on: 10-25-2007 20:41 »

Except for 1982's The Incredible Hulk, right?
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« Reply #266 on: 10-25-2007 22:22 »

I don't think anybody wants to watch Ali Larter turn into Lou Ferrigno.
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« Reply #267 on: 10-26-2007 00:26 »

Kryten: Get Hiro out of the past? Hiro and Kensei is my favorite part of this season, I just wish they'd get on with it. I expect they're stalling because there are revelations to be made in the past which will explain what's going on in the future.

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« Reply #268 on: 10-26-2007 07:35 »
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The plot progression this season is fucking terrible. They needed to remove some of the characters as the cast was way too large and then they go an introduce more like Alejandro and Maja which although somewhat interesting no way as intriguing as characters like Peter and co etc. The storylines are moving surprisingly slow and I'm interested in Micahs cousin but I would much rather there not be these new characters in the show so we don't have to wait a week to see more of Sylar or Hiro. I also wouldn't worry on them running out of season 2 material because they have plenty to go with and the way its going now it seems there is only innovation in the storyline of one character a week and then there's the irritating and pointless jargon like Micah and his cousin about what they can do with their powers. The writers need to get their act together before they lose viewers.
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« Reply #269 on: 10-26-2007 08:12 »

Actually, it's doing quite the opposite, isn't it?  We're all clearly addicted, and want to see the story unfold.  If they showed us all the cards up front, we'd be excited, but then bored, and walk off.

It's not like any of us are watching season 1 all over again, right?  That wrapped itself up pretty nicely to be frank.

Although... yeah, the staff is huge, and we only get to see parts of stories as the show has unfolded; certainly something I noticed early on.  That... AND that they kill off cast members very frequently.. pretty much as frequently as they introduce new ones.

Also.  Alejandro and Maja will probably pay off at some point; that and maybe Sylar will swing into the favor of good, I think he's becoming complicatingly dynamic at this point.
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« Reply #270 on: 10-26-2007 09:42 »
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I agree with Spy from the frustrated-viewer
perspective, but winna is correct about the producers' perspective. Thing is, comic books have been doing the same thing for years; I remember when I was a kid being all excited when a new issue of X-Men came out, only to read it and find two thirds of it were some random side story about one character, and the real story didn't advance.

While it can be frustrating, as big as the cast has become they really have to kindof rotate. Not only have they added a slew of new characters, but all the people who's stories used to constantly overlap are now living their own separate stories.

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Eventually there'll be a pivotol point in the season; stories will start pulling back together a bit leading up to it, and the pivot will include some big revelation that ties a lot of things together. After that, the pacing will probably pick back up a bit to a climax towards the end of the season.
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« Reply #271 on: 10-29-2007 21:25 »

Looks like Hiro broke history.

And HRG can totally kick Jack Bauer's ass.
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« Reply #272 on: 10-29-2007 21:38 »

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« Reply #273 on: 10-30-2007 05:34 »

At least the Peter and Maya/Alejandro stories are finally getting somewhere. I'm actually a little interesting in the latter due to Sylar's presence. Probably wouldn't be as interesting without him.

Looks like Hiro broke time. Again. But at least he's back!

HRG and the Haitian kick ass.

I still don't like the Claire/West story.

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« Reply #274 on: 10-30-2007 08:00 »


And just in case aony PEELers ever find themselves with the ability to travel through time.. Explore thoroughly first, don't just poke around your own short lifespan and assume that nothing before or after that matters. I mean, this is time travel 101 stuff here, people.

And also, Bob... he has to have a power, I think, but I have no idea what it might be at this point. Any theories?
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« Reply #275 on: 10-30-2007 13:34 »


And we've already seen Bob's power. He has the ability to turn stuff into gold.
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« Reply #276 on: 10-30-2007 14:00 »

He's clearly the most dangerous! game!
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« Reply #277 on: 10-30-2007 15:06 »

Bob is Goldfingaaahh!!

Dumb Peter, why'd you have to bring her with you, bad uberpowered amnesiac, BAD!
Notice how the "Irish" pub they were in was always empty? So unrealistic!!  eek

Star of the episode: Micahs cousins butt! ( Y )

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« Reply #278 on: 10-30-2007 17:44 »

I'm glad they haven't been showing her brother. I can't stand little black kids who try too hard to act black. It just seem so....unnatural, if that makes sense.  tongue
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« Reply #279 on: 10-30-2007 17:48 »

 
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Bob is Goldfingaaahh!!

Dumb Peter, why'd you have to bring her with you, bad uberpowered amnesiac, BAD!
Notice how the "Irish" pub they were in was always empty? So unrealistic!!   eek

Star of the episode: Micahs cousins butt! ( Y )


On the plus side, you die happy.
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