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Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #40 on: 04-17-2006 12:52 »

Good grief. I can't believe I'm actually going to be the first person on this board to slate this show. Deep breath...

Okay, I'm gonna forego criticising the speed up/slow down wankery of this show, given that it doesn't actually affect the comedy per se (although it is a rather heavy-handed attempt to forge its own style), and get straight down to the actual comedy content. Where is it?

Acting-wise, it's a cross between your Office style naturalism and your Smack The Pony style overacting, neither of which are brilliant points of inspiration in themselves and neither of which gel together that well at all. Performance-wise, only Mark Heap and Michelle Gomez actually seem like they're doing any work - the rest just come across as so smug and laidback they quash any of the few 'gags' they're given.

As for the material, it's mostly throwaway sketches stretched over several minutes to the point where their underwritten nature is highly visible in the seams. Scenes like Tamsin Greig's character singing "You Really Got Me" to try and impress Rhind-Tutt ramble on aimlessly as though they couldn't think of a punchline for the scene so just told the actors to ham it up in the hope that something funny would emerge. An hour per episode is clearly too long, although even if it was a half hour show I'd be surprised if they managed to make it work.

Sorry if I've brought the whole thread down but someone had to restore the balance!
mookie427

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« Reply #41 on: 04-17-2006 14:18 »

hmm, well you're entitled to your views, but i think virtually everyone disagrees with you!
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #42 on: 04-17-2006 15:01 »
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Well that's valid, Captain Everyone.  tongue
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« Reply #43 on: 04-17-2006 15:02 »

...Burn him!!
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #44 on: 04-17-2006 15:04 »

Burn me for what? Writing an actually thought-out critique? Not engaging in the usual levels of groupthink that apply to almost all mediocre Britcoms at the moment? Well thank christ for my asbestos heart is all I can say.
mookie427

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« Reply #45 on: 04-17-2006 16:44 »

 
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Well that's valid, Captain Everyone.   tongue


Captain everyone at your service
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Arkan

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« Reply #46 on: 04-17-2006 16:45 »

I respect your opinion, and of course you're allowed to say what you think. Still, I can't believe you can dislike this show so much! IMO it's the best on TV at the moment, and I actually look forward to it as a treat. Ah well, I guess it's not everyone's style of humour. But I just love that wackiness!

Out of curiosity, which episodes have you seen?
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #47 on: 04-17-2006 16:51 »

I think I watched the first four from Series 1 and the second one from Series 2. So I think it's fair to say I've given it a fair chance.
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« Reply #48 on: 04-19-2006 14:11 »

MOV have you been away from the board for a while?

Anyhoo, respected opinion MOV, which you're entitled to, but I love the show, I don't think that the characters are too annoying (nor the actors who play them.)

You're completely right about Heap and Gomez, they are the stars, and their performances are understated (yes, even Statham, in the hands of another actor, he'd be played WAAAAY over the top) which I think is the key to their success.

Oliver Chris is criminally underused, Sarah Alexander not so, as she rarely has anything to do (the most recent episode and the party ep from S1 is the most she's been in it).
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #49 on: 04-19-2006 15:59 »

 
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MOV have you been away from the board for a while?

Yeah, though by the way you asked that question it sounds like I've been here in spirit (ha ha ha).

I'm not the kind of guy who picks arguments for arguments sakes here but I'm flabbergasted that someone would think Heap's performance is understated. The only reason I would think anyone would come to that conclusion is down to the fact that he gibbers his way through his words rather than delivers them intelligably - demosntrating that he's ultimately torn between quirkiness and naturalism. I don't buy the idea that another actor would necessarily play it WAAAAY over the top either...although given the highly incestuous nature of the comedy mafia these days, it's very difficult at the moment to imagine an alternative (and that's not a good sign).

As for Oliver Chris, he's another one of those post-Office space wasters who's only capable of 'acting' on that one level (a la just about everyone in The Office bar Crook). Did you see the security guard he played in The IT Crowd?
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« Reply #50 on: 04-19-2006 16:20 »

 
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As for Oliver Chris, he's another one of those post-Office space wasters who's only capable of 'acting' on that one level (a la just about everyone in The Office bar Crook). Did you see the security guard he played in The IT Crowd?

Oh I did not know that. Yeh I have saw him in that episode. Thought he was cute. He is cute in GW

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« Reply #51 on: 04-21-2006 17:19 »

My highlight's from tonight's show

The whole Alan/Mac carpark space - how on the hell did they manage to put Alan's car in his office?

The whole nice Mac and Caroline moment till that Holly comes in and spoil it - Bitch

Martin's painting   eek   eek
mookie427

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« Reply #52 on: 04-21-2006 17:39 »
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and when Alan caught his arm on fire, and jumping into the birthing pool

oh, and the gall bladder incident and the liquid paper incident

Also Mac and Stathams exchange with the mug.

funny shit   tongue

and I really don't like that new character, holly. She sucks
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« Reply #53 on: 04-22-2006 03:35 »

Oh I forgot to mention about Alan set on fire and the gall bladder bit.
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« Reply #54 on: 04-22-2006 10:04 »

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« Reply #55 on: 04-22-2006 13:58 »
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Faze that is brilliant! did you made that?
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« Reply #56 on: 04-22-2006 18:08 »

Yeah, wasn't too hard, used Fraps (mainly used for capturing video from games) but works in MPC, then import the .avi int Animation Shop and play around with it. I couldn't get it to sync properly so it looks smoothly looped.  tongue
But enough about that! More Green Wing!
Arkan

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« Reply #57 on: 04-22-2006 20:16 »

Wow that's cool, Faze!

Well I thought this week's episode was a really good one. I liked all the bits that have already been mentioned... Also "Get Bryan. Get Bryan. Get Bryan. GET BRYAN!" etc. and "Don't worry, I'm not your baby!" Also with the gecko shoes - "Double murderer!"

Oh, and the bit at the end about the wooden clogs.

My overall rating:  laff
mookie427

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« Reply #58 on: 04-28-2006 17:22 »

well, what'd you all think of tonights ep?

I thought it was better than last weeks, and that bit with Sue and Alan and the clay dildos was amazing!
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« Reply #59 on: 04-28-2006 17:39 »
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Oh, I know! Hilarious!   laff

Thought it was a great one. Caroline and Mac got to kiss - 'bout time! - but @ the end: NNNOOOOO!! (although the thumbs-up...  laff )

The bit with Lyndon and Harriet was so cute, too. Aww!

The plot's getting interesting now too, huh?
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« Reply #60 on: 04-28-2006 18:27 »
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Tonight’s episode was just……..wow, and a bombshell. The Caroline, Mac, Guy and Holly storyline was huge

The Mac and Caroline kiss was very nice and they will make a great couple but it was all ruined when that bitch Holly show Mac their son. I feel sorry for Caroline.

So Caroline might be on a rebound when she kissed Guy and I could lead to even more.we have to fine out next week

Oh yes I love Lyndon and Harriet they make a cute couple
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« Reply #61 on: 04-28-2006 19:43 »

Ok, I hope this thing isn't turning into a bloody teen drama...

"Next time on Green County... (The G.C.)"
*Faze kerplodes himself*

Also, z0mg torrent pls!!!111eleven
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« Reply #62 on: 04-29-2006 16:07 »

Agreed on Lyndon and Harriet, it's nice to see Olivia Colman (or "Collie" as we know her) get involved in a decent story.

Alan Statham's interview for running for Local Election was hilarious, as was his speech therapy.

Also, the poshest pimp ever on screen.  laff
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« Reply #63 on: 04-29-2006 17:15 »

Oh yeah!  laff And I loved Martin's walk too!
Juliet

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« Reply #64 on: 04-29-2006 18:35 »

Sue White gets funnier and Funnier. I like th bit where she cover herself in clay and calls her baby Simba
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« Reply #65 on: 04-29-2006 20:29 »

Martin calling that little girl a bitch and her response: brilliant.

Insulting minors with pimp talk always gives me the giggles!  big grin
mookie427

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« Reply #66 on: 04-30-2006 03:23 »
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oh, i forgot this from the good mouth of Dr. Statham:

"I can see you've got a lot on your penis, err plate...err ooh er oh...goodbye!"

"Well I can see you're Ill informed and bigoted. I'm not going to vote for you."
"Well you'd better FUCK OFF THEN!"

that was amazing  smile
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #67 on: 04-30-2006 04:42 »

Staham: Best.Comedy.Character.Ever.
mookie427

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« Reply #68 on: 04-30-2006 05:48 »

 
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Staham: Best.Comedy.Character.Ever.

Completely. And. Utterly. Agree. With. You
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« Reply #69 on: 04-30-2006 07:47 »
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oh, i forgot this from the good mouth of Dr. Statham:

"I can see you've got a lot on your penis, err plate...err ooh er oh...goodbye!"

"Well I can see you're Ill informed and bigoted. I'm not going to vote for you."
"Well you'd better FUCK OFF THEN!"

that was amazing   smile


haha I was laughing out loud on that bit

 
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Staham: Best.Comedy.Character.Ever.

I agree with you

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« Reply #70 on: 05-01-2006 07:22 »

my Friends made theses:





Arkan

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« Reply #71 on: 05-05-2006 18:06 »

Heehee, those are cool!

So, what did you think of tonight's episode?
The poor little dwarf man!  frown
Guy was so sweet!  love Bless him!

Uh... I know there were some funny bits but I can't remember them right now. But I'm sure someone will point them out.  smile 
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« Reply #72 on: 05-05-2006 18:42 »
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I love Guy!!!!!!!!  love

Funny bits? What about Guy with the keyboard and Sue White's buzzer and that "Fuck off" scroll board
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« Reply #73 on: 05-06-2006 03:08 »

I must say I laughed out loud at Sue White's buzzer and scrolling board.

Solid episode, I enjoyed it.
mookie427

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« Reply #74 on: 05-06-2006 07:08 »

yeah, good solid episode, that 'Fuck off' board was genius!
Melllvar

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« Reply #75 on: 05-06-2006 08:58 »
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I'm becoming obsessed with Youtube, time for some classic Green Wing:

Martins Dancing Exam

Also:

This is why Naughty Rachel is one of my favourite characters.
mookie427

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« Reply #76 on: 05-06-2006 10:02 »

Dr. Stathams alphabet!
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNWcdsgvhTs&search=greenwing

Possibly one of my favourite scenes ever:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQk9excAowY&search=greenwing

another great bit:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO3aC_3pJuo&search=green%20wing

Juliet

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« Reply #77 on: 05-06-2006 14:00 »
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I think I sign up for Youtube and see if I can upload some videos myself I love Stathams alphabet scene


This one is my fave: The kiss!
Juliet

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« Reply #78 on: 05-06-2006 19:01 »

Ok this is my first time uploading a video clip using youtube

It's the "Fuck Off" buzzer scene
Arkan

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« Reply #79 on: 05-06-2006 20:59 »

Aw, I like the kiss one!  love

And the buzzer scene is hilarious, of course. I'd forgotten about that.
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