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Archie2K

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« Reply #200 on: 11-04-2008 01:51 »

If they were really looking to cause offence, "Jesus is gay" would suit. That would be beyond the pale. Rather like last night's episode which if not jumped the shark, is halfway up the ramp. More cars, less burning stuff down plz k thx bye.
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« Reply #201 on: 11-04-2008 11:43 »

I thought last night's episode was pretty good, I'm surprised lorry drivers complained just because of a couple of jokes, it did show that lorryists do a difficult job.
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« Reply #202 on: 11-04-2008 19:20 »

Dear Daily Mail,

Jeremy Clarkson has just come on my television and said something disparaging.  Frankly, I'm shocked.  Will someone think of the children?
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« Reply #203 on: 01-21-2009 12:57 »

So they find out who The Stig really look like

Not bad I say
Spiritinthesky

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« Reply #204 on: 01-21-2009 21:35 »

I think its the best thing on TV, I love it and its getting better all the time.
Ninaka

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« Reply #205 on: 01-22-2009 02:22 »

That article came out here the other day about The Stig too. Lousy spoilsport journalist... .

Hope they don't have to kill him off tongue
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« Reply #206 on: 01-22-2009 09:54 »

It is a shame that the Stig was identified... I wonder what colour the next Stig will be tongue
Ninaka

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« Reply #207 on: 01-22-2009 10:47 »

Fuchsia, because it's going to be a woman.

HAHA.
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« Reply #208 on: 01-24-2009 16:44 »
« Last Edit on: 01-24-2009 17:04 »

ITs was an open secret that Ben Collins was the Stig..

now i just hope they dont kill him like they did with the black stig (Perry mccarthy) .. still acording top the wiki it was well known in motoring circles and motoring press that the Stig was Ben, but everyone keep the "secret" for humour and keep the show tone..

the problem now is a big mouth diary playing the "smarty" (Daily telegraph) .. not himself revealing as the Stig.. as the old Perry did (he revealed it in his autobiography).

And as allways they simply can deny it .. it wouldnt change anything.. practically everyone involved knew who he was.. and also there are other stigs.. in the "foreign" tests the Stig is almost allways other guy, most known
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« Reply #209 on: 01-27-2009 14:19 »

I saw the episode with the Veyron on the test track and I did not even find it appealing all of those millions of dollers spent on making that and its not even in the top times on the UK TG tracks big grin

With Top Gear Australia alot of people seem to hate it because they say 'its too much like the UK version' f**king duh its a franchise its a bit like complaining that every McDonalds is the same.
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« Reply #210 on: 01-27-2009 15:16 »

No doubt if it wasn't similar they'd complain that it wasn't Top Gear just a show with the same title, some people just like to whinge.
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« Reply #211 on: 01-27-2009 16:30 »

I saw the episode with the Veyron on the test track and I did not even find it appealing all of those millions of dollers spent on making that and its not even in the top times on the UK TG tracks big grin


Its natural that the Veyron scored that time.. now in 5th position i think..

Ok so its not the fastest car in the track..? Whats the deal? look whats ahead of it.. The Gompher., the Zonda and the Koenigggggggsssssssssssssssse ig (and now the Lotus katerham) all of them are exotic hipercars made for the track and track only.. the Veyron weights 2.1 tons.. the Gompher weighs only 1.1 tons, thats half.. so it should had only 500hp to equal the Veyron.. but it has 750..
Same with the other two..
But .. the amazing thing of the Veyron is that its confortable, easy to drive and its made to last 20 years of daily use . I can asure you a Zonda wit Daily use will not look good in even 5 years (damn, it even broke down in Top Gear's track) same with the other 2.. they are cars made to be in the garaje of a silly millionair who collects cars and from time to time will take them for a quick spin.. or use them to cruise to a Casino or some other resort.. The Veyron is capable in theory of hablde daily use for 20 years.. of course.. the owners of a Veyron will left it at the garaje with the rest of the collection.. but nevertheless the car was enginered to be extremely quick (410km/h in straight line at least) to be easy to drive arround , be quite confortable , silent inside and last witout anoying to hell its owner with repairs every day, its a car you can take from Lisbon and drive to Hellsinki without fearing it will fall to pieces.. like the SLR, any Porsche and so..

And yet it managed to go faster the TG track than a Ferrari Enzo wich has 651hp and weights 1365kg..  thats 477hp per ton..  just the same as the Veyron..  while the Enzo is far more racing oriented , quite less confortable and several magnites less reliable and not as far to easy to drive..
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« Reply #212 on: 02-02-2009 01:32 »


With Top Gear Australia alot of people seem to hate it because they say 'its too much like the UK version' f**king duh its a franchise its a bit like complaining that every McDonalds is the same.

Unfortunately the "franchise" chain totally forced them to do things identically to the UK version to make sure it was successful. I would have liked to have seen a little bit of individualisation for the Aus version - giving us something to look forward to, a little bit of an Aussie touch.

If the series were to continue here, I'm sure over time it would eventually create it's own image... but I don't know how successful it's going to be. We already have the UK version, it's not like we need our own anyway with the small selection of auto we produce, it wouldn't make that many eps.

That being said, are you going to see the UK boys when they come out to Sydney this week?
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« Reply #213 on: 02-02-2009 01:33 »

With Top Gear Australia alot of people seem to hate it because they say 'its too much like the UK version' f**king duh its a franchise its a bit like complaining that every McDonalds is the same.

Not me. I hate it because it's completely and utterly lame.

Lamer than Fifth Gear, even.
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« Reply #214 on: 02-03-2009 03:52 »


With Top Gear Australia alot of people seem to hate it because they say 'its too much like the UK version' f**king duh its a franchise its a bit like complaining that every McDonalds is the same.

Unfortunately the "franchise" chain totally forced them to do things identically to the UK version to make sure it was successful. I would have liked to have seen a little bit of individualisation for the Aus version - giving us something to look forward to, a little bit of an Aussie touch.

If the series were to continue here, I'm sure over time it would eventually create it's own image... but I don't know how successful it's going to be. We already have the UK version, it's not like we need our own anyway with the small selection of auto we produce, it wouldn't make that many eps.

That being said, are you going to see the UK boys when they come out to Sydney this week?

When you look at the UK TG most of cars they review are not even UK car's most are just european car jap cars, which similar to the Aus car market. But the UK gets more of the supercars then waht Aus. I would guess if it does continue it would eventually form its own personality. I'm betting not many people got the LUCAS electrics joke in the first ep of AUS TG.
I'm kinda hoping they reveiw the old(er) Aussie cars in future episodes, like the XR/T/W/Y Falcon and the Monaro's of the 70's that sort of thing.
I recall reading a well written post at RS Motorsport about the whole UK TG vs AUS TG.

I'm not going to the TG live in Sydney, I need money for that.
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« Reply #215 on: 02-03-2009 13:46 »

It's a rip off anyway... it's only a 75 minute show for all that money.

That hasn't stopped me trying to WIN tickets for free though heh
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« Reply #216 on: 02-04-2009 03:10 »
« Last Edit on: 02-04-2009 03:14 »

Quote from: Ben link=topic=13377.msg1008233#msg1008233

Lamer than Fifth Gear, even.

wow.. thats a hole new level of lameness

I enjoy some of Tiff , Jason and Vicky tests but i certanly cant stand any more the other lame and wrong tests.. they are stating things simply wrong..

Washing a car in an auto-wash better than washing it by hand?: WRONG
Cars fuel economy better in rain than dry?: WRONG

Not to forget mention than they proclaimed a tie between the Ford Mondeo and the Renault Laguna  in the slalom because while the Laguna was quite more superior.. they sayd "The Mondeo feels more pure and more like a pure car".

WTF? By that rule my car would bash both them.. the test was to see wich one was the better in slalom..not wich feels more natural..  some reason they dont work the funnies at the same level as Top Gear.. i can see Jeremy thrusing a car because its german only .. and laught because i know how Top Gear works and how its supossed to be taken..

.. Fifth Gear not
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« Reply #217 on: 02-05-2009 20:46 »

Did Black Stig survive?

News items in The Telegraph and The Times.
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« Reply #218 on: 02-05-2009 21:54 »

Tweek is that a spoiler i dont know if i want to click on it.
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #219 on: 02-05-2009 23:08 »



Love the detail of the glove missing!

when Stig "died" the only proof was a floating glove
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #220 on: 02-06-2009 13:09 »
« Last Edit on: 02-06-2009 13:16 »

 hmpf

sorry hit the wrong button

To Bear: No spoilers there
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« Reply #221 on: 02-15-2009 15:33 »

Wait did Jeremy really make it almost 840 miles in that diesel jag? they said his route was nearly 200 miles more than his original range calculations on the tt v6 diesel XJ, but he still made it even with his attempts to burn enough fuel to conk out on his door step failing miserably (80+mph, dropping mpg to about 29 on the computer from 49.1 lol)
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #222 on: 02-16-2009 08:20 »

Wait did Jeremy really make it almost 840 miles in that diesel jag? they said his route was nearly 200 miles more than his original range calculations on the tt v6 diesel XJ, but he still made it even with his attempts to burn enough fuel to conk out on his door step failing miserably (80+mph, dropping mpg to about 29 on the computer from 49.1 lol)

Yeap he did.. but still the jag has a huge fuel tank while the Polo has a small one, the Jag has almost twice as many juice than the Polo (19galon the jag vs 10-11 Polo)
the final average fuel numbers were 3,8l/100 for the Polo and about +6l/100 for the Jag..

My brother is a driving instructor and he made courses on fuel economy.. the thing is that one important factor to fuel economy is torque. Torque is one of the things that allows Diesels to have good economy numbers.. because with that much torque in low range you can cruise with not so much gas-pedal. A V6 twin turbo 3.0l diesel engine must have really good torque figures. That amount allows you to say to be much more inmune to A/C , heater and electric things draining than a 1.4 diesel for example.  (*)

This means that despite Jeremy using A/C and all electric systems , at 70-80mph it didnt had any impact into the fuel economy for the "inertia" / torque of the engine to say..
and in the end Hammon's Polo was average faster than the Jag because simply it arrived first, sure it used a shorter route but that "if i go up i will come down so i average" thing is not much true in reallity, uphills damage more than downhills can repair.
Jeremy would won if he had used the same route as Hammond? Probably, the Jag is heavier and should suffer more in the uphills but again it has a huge torque reserve so maybe it would had endured it better than the Polo.

(*): In a car if you use the A/C usually you increase fuel compsumption by 10-20%. But if you are cruising lets say at 120km/h and engage it it will take then 5-10%. Thats because with the engine working at those speeds at final gear and nearer torque wise zone and dont needing to increase speed constantly (acelerate) it will carry-on the A/C or electric (alternator) loads much easier.
The moral is if you wanna use A/C and you worry about fuel economy try to engage it when you are allready at a cruise speed, not while acelerating or the engine is cold.
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« Reply #223 on: 02-16-2009 21:12 »

Obviously his calculations must have been the minimum specified range (urban cycle was 35.7mpg iirc), but he was getting over and above the maximum test loop rated numbers for at least part of the journey, (49.1>44mpg). Jaguar says its 18.7gallon + 5.x L in reserve so yeah it was about 19-20 gallons of fuel in the tank (well obviously imperial gallons)

It was funny just how confident of failure he was, yet based on the actual figures from the size of the tank and the highway loop mileage it was much more feasible than he was thinking, 19gallon*44mi/gallon=836 miles so it was much more manageable then he thought. More torque would indeed mean the engine needed to work less hard than the little 1.4L Polo BlueMotion.
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #224 on: 02-18-2009 07:45 »

At least those cars had computers that were pesimistic .. all of them said that they ran out of fuel way before it would happen.

My car's computer doesnt have a predicted range , only a l/100 number (average per trip) wich is allways - 0.5->-1l optimistic. Wich means that if i were to thrust it i would run out of fuel. Why.. why make thing overoptmistic.. i prefeer to have "sad" figures on the screen and be safe than the contrary and run out of fuel in the middle of nowhere.

Still we know that 50% or more of Top Gear is staged.. the Jereme "leadfoot" thing was probably to add amusement and make things more exciting in the final part. They all were to appear in blackpool as celebrities and only James missed it by half hour because of route planing failure.

The biggest problem with modern Top Gear is knowing what is staged and what isnt. Jeremy's crash in the Vietnam challenge was obviously not staged.. but his truck engulfed on fire in the truck challenge obviously was.

Other indicent wich appeared staged.. Hammond's van rolling over in the van challenge (last segment aired before his big crash) appeared to be staged but actually wasnt acording to his wife who said that he had had a crash while filming a van segment and that he suffered from neck pain for some days
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« Reply #225 on: 02-25-2009 16:42 »

I've just sent an email to the top gear people... asking them if they would please make a flying car. For fun. Let's see if they get back to me...
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« Reply #226 on: 02-25-2009 16:49 »

Well they've built amphibious cars twice, (ambitious but rubbish), police cars, a convertible people carrier, et. cetra, however I'm not so sure about the concept of building a flying car and actually making a challenge out of it, since thats much more dangerous, and given their rather poor record for building functional protoypes that meet all expectations, its not terribly likely to happen, but knowing the production team likes to set imposible challenges it just might.

Oh and to be honest they pulled the flying car stunt with an inflatable Astra with some fans underneath it, not quite a full car flying overhead, but it gave the illusion of one.
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« Reply #227 on: 02-25-2009 16:51 »

I was thinking more like mounting massive fans on an actual car to provide lift.

It was their amphibious cars that made me think of it. I've been watching a lot of Top Gear re-runs on Dave.
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« Reply #228 on: 02-25-2009 16:57 »

Well you would need massive fans, that or mount four jet engines vertically and one in the trunk to provide forward thrust
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« Reply #229 on: 02-25-2009 17:09 »

Nah. Two ducted fans with an eight foot diameter should be enough to get a small, lighteight car off the ground.

Plus, enough of the car would be surplus to requirements that there would be a weight saving. Hopefully.

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« Reply #230 on: 02-25-2009 17:16 »

Well you can't remove the drivetrain or else its not a car in the proper sense of the word. Even with two large diameter fans lifting it off the ground there is still the matter of propelling the car through the air, as well as having some sort of directional stability to remote control the thing (like the Reliant Robin Shuttle). If this challenge were to be presented, Jeremy would try to turn a powerful sports car into a plane/flying car, James would try to do the sensible thing and start with a very small and light car, and Hammond would try and make a flying camper van or something equally not suitable for flying.
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« Reply #231 on: 02-25-2009 17:22 »

Exactly. Wouldn't that be awesome?
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« Reply #232 on: 03-04-2009 17:06 »

Jeremy and Richard were rather cruel to James about his rendition of the top gear theme tune as played from the exhaust notes of cars, because he refused to bow to the lowest common denominator and pervert the glorious engine notes (with the exception of the Bugatti which was running a bit off/flat) with heavy computerized post processing. They said it sounded like a fat talentless shop assistant farting.
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« Reply #233 on: 03-08-2009 02:32 »
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I've just sent an email to the top gear people... asking them if they would please make a flying car. For fun. Let's see if they get back to me...

They did actually.. they made fly a Reliant Robin.. at least for a short while until something went wrong







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« Reply #234 on: 03-08-2009 03:37 »

I've just sent an email to the top gear people... asking them if they would please make a flying car. For fun. Let's see if they get back to me...

They did actually.. they made fly a Reliant Robin.. at least for a short while until something went wrong

Technically that was a rocket made from a car and not actually a flying car, a flying car would have to be able to take off from the ground fly around and then attempt to land again, but it was almost a glider, until the main liquid fuel tank refused to separate turning it into a bomb
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« Reply #235 on: 03-08-2009 03:53 »

Welll..it flew and it was suposed to come down again controlled :d
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« Reply #236 on: 08-30-2009 01:18 »
« Last Edit on: 08-30-2009 01:20 »

I just saw the season 13 ending ..
quite drepressing ( in the good way ) the final Aston Vantage V12 film.. good bye V12s .

It really had to happen sooner or later.. but even when 99% of us never will own a V12 (or even a V6) ...they will be missed by all us petrolheads... something will be missing ..

There is one chance tought.. petrol runs out or almost.. we finally make the step to hidrogen / electric cars sustainable ..and we can use bio fuels (ethanol for example) to use the big gas guzzlers as a fun car l.. In the final program they had Jay Leno and Jay in a past program pointed out that the new electric/hidrogen cars may be the saviour of old glories like the car liberated the horse
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« Reply #237 on: 08-30-2009 01:23 »
« Last Edit on: 08-30-2009 01:25 »

Tnuk, you a fan Moller and his discojet volantor Sky Car?
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« Reply #238 on: 08-30-2009 01:40 »

Not so much a fan as ardently hoping that he fails and his research is taken over by a company with the resources to create a mass-market version.
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« Reply #239 on: 09-01-2009 08:15 »

And thats related to TG in.......?

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