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PEE Poll: Batman movies
The Dark Knight
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Batman and Robin
Batman Forever
Mask of the Phantasm
Batman Returns
Batman (1989)
Batman (1966)
Batman and Robin (1949)
The Batman (1943)

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« Reply #80 on: 07-25-2008 08:44 »

I watched the Tim Burton version of "Batman" just a few hours ago (damned, has it really been 20 years since it was released?  I remember watching it when it was first released) and I have to say, the Heath Ledger Joker is by far much more intimidating and over-the-top evil.  Yes, a generation makes a big difference - it's apples and oranges, but the Nicholson Joker now appears to be some strange uncle who lives in the attic next to Ledger's Joker.

Damned, I'm ancient.  I remember being a kid and watching the Adam West "Batman" on TV when it was on during the 60's (my mom even got me the Batman theme song on a 45 rpm record.  What's a 45 rpm record?  Aw, shut-up you youing'uns!), it morphed into the Burton/Keaton "Batman" over the course of a generation, then over the course of another generation we get the Christian Bale "Batman", is the "Batman" of 2028 going to be packing Neutron Bombs?

George Clooney should hold his head down in shame for the horrible job he did to "Batman".  I had a problem with "Mr. Mom" Michael Keaton playing "Batman", but he did a pretty good job.  Val Kilmer was above average, but Clooney?  Bah, very few characters can take the heat for derailing a francise, but Clooney's "Batman" is in the same league as "Scappy Doo" and "Jar-Jar Binks".
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« Reply #81 on: 07-25-2008 08:53 »

I'd like to know why Casey Kasem doesn't play Robin in this movie  hmpf
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« Reply #82 on: 07-25-2008 10:18 »

 
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 the Heath Ledger Joker is by far much more intimidating and over-the-top evil.

Definitely much more brutal.

 
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a 45 rpm record.  What's a 45 rpm record?  Aw, shut-up you youing'uns!

Is that one of those really small ones?
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« Reply #83 on: 07-25-2008 20:21 »

Scrappy Doo wasn't that bad. More like Scooby-Dum...
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« Reply #84 on: 07-26-2008 13:05 »

Dear Christopher Nolan, if you are replacing Heath Ledger, I've found your guy: Joseph Gordon-Levitt!
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« Reply #85 on: 07-26-2008 14:09 »

... Edward Norton?
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« Reply #86 on: 07-26-2008 15:27 »

The Joker could be the next James Bond - with certain actors taking up his mantle against Batman film after film. Of course, Batman would essentially be relegated to a mere side-character.  Comic relief to the Joker's evil antics.

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« Reply #87 on: 07-26-2008 15:50 »

... Edward Norton?
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« Reply #88 on: 07-26-2008 17:00 »

 
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Dear Christopher Nolan, if you are replacing Heath Ledger, I've found your guy: Joseph Gordon-Levitt!

so, basically you want Nolan to gradually use the entire cast of 10 things I hate about you
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« Reply #89 on: 07-26-2008 18:07 »

The only thing I've actually seen Ledger in is Ned Kelly and some of A Knights Tale, because I'm manly that way.
But JGL was great in Brick and 3rd Rock From The Sun, a good mix of serious and whacky, just like the Joker.  big grin
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« Reply #90 on: 07-26-2008 18:54 »

 
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... Edward Norton?

Edward Norton is not a CelebrationEntertainer.

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« Reply #91 on: 07-27-2008 15:54 »

Dark Knight = z0mg!bestfilmever.

In life, Heath Ledger was that guy from that gay cowboy film. In death, he is the Joker dressed in a nurse's uniform, skipping away from a hospital and getting annoyed when his trigger doesn't work.

High points: Lack of Katie Holmes; Batpod; Aaron Eckhart being the definitive live-action portrayal of Harvey Dent; lack of Katie Holmes; "Billionaire absconds with Russian ballet"; everything in Hong Kong.

Low points: "No diversions whatsoever ... Hey, look, there's a burning fire engine. Let's go underground where we're likely to be ambushed instead of just using the empty lanes on the other side of the road"; Aaron Eckhart not playing Two-Face very well; the poor Two-Face make-up; Lucius Fox being relegated to nothing more than a Q rip-off; not enough Michael Caine; the Joker literally being left dangling.
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« Reply #92 on: 07-28-2008 15:00 »

Good points on the "low points." I basically noticed everything that you did, especially when they went underground instead of taking the other road. When that happened, I was all wtf?

However, I thought Eckhart played Two-Face well. Then again, I'm not very knowledgable with Batman, so maybe he did not do that good a job. All I can say is that based on this experience alone, it was well done.

Another thing I noticed was that the CG of Two-Face looked incredibly similar to "The Mummy."

Another thing...Joker was left dangling, but I'm guessing because the director wanted him to come back in the third Batman movie. But with Heath Ledger's death, plans have changed...
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« Reply #93 on: 07-28-2008 19:06 »
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Hey Nasty:


That is my best scene ever. Heath was bloody brilliant. the rest of the movie was so boring

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« Reply #94 on: 07-28-2008 20:53 »

Is that really a phrase? "Bloodying" brilliant? confused
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« Reply #95 on: 07-29-2008 04:12 »

oops I just edit my post
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« Reply #96 on: 07-29-2008 05:14 »

How the frak did you find it so boring? It had plenty of tense and exciting sequences...  confused
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« Reply #97 on: 07-29-2008 08:07 »

Is that really a phrase? How the "frak"?  confused
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« Reply #98 on: 07-29-2008 11:20 »

Yes, "frak" is a word. An expletive, to be exact, from the reimagined Battlestar Galactica series. In the original series, it was spelled "frack". This is not to be confused with "fräck", however, which is a shaving mirror sold at IKEA, and of which one can be found in William Adama's quarters.
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« Reply #99 on: 07-29-2008 13:31 »

Then how come its not in the Beartionary?  HMMMMM???
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« Reply #100 on: 07-29-2008 14:52 »

 
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How the frak did you find it so boring? It had plenty of tense and exciting sequences...   confused

I don't know I just think it is.
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« Reply #101 on: 07-29-2008 14:55 »

It's because you were drunk and the boy wonder wasn't in the picture
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« Reply #102 on: 07-29-2008 14:57 »

I find to be turned on by Batman's voice. still I find the film to be boring
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« Reply #103 on: 07-29-2008 20:49 »

Get out.

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« Reply #104 on: 07-29-2008 23:13 »

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« Reply #105 on: 08-03-2008 13:02 »

My favorite of the Batman movies from the 90's is Batman Forever.  I saw The Dark Night last week, and it was excellent!  Heath Ledger's Joker makes Caeser Romero's Joker look like Big Bird from Sesame Street.   Having Two Face in the movie was kind of unesessary. 

In this movie, I liked the Joker better than Batman.
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« Reply #106 on: 08-03-2008 14:00 »

Batman Forev... wtf is wrong with you?  no no
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« Reply #107 on: 08-03-2008 14:17 »

 
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Heath Ledger's Joker makes Caeser Romero's Joker look like Big Bird from Sesame Street.   

Hardly high praise, Kurt; it implies that Caesar Romero's Joker had any sort of malice in the first place. Not that I don't love the old TV series.

I've not seen the new movie yet but it looks like they've finally done the Joker justice. I never liked Nicholson's Joker. He was too old for the role, and (setting myself up for abuse here) nowhere near psychotic enough.

And looking back after 20 years Nicholson's performance isn't too far removed from Romero's.

Wednesday is the day I shall be able to praise Ledger properly. I shall return.
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« Reply #108 on: 08-04-2008 01:10 »

You can all talk about how great Ledger is..... but Nicholson is laughing at all of you.... Because he's getting paid for Ledger's performance.  smile
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« Reply #109 on: 08-09-2008 18:38 »

Guess I meant saturday.

"Did I ever tell you how I got these scars?"

He was just about to make up a third reason...

"Arkham Asylum" anyone?

Not going to bang on about Ledger though, I simply prefer the writing for the Joker in this latest movie. Maybe a bit too much self exposition, but how else can you get into the mind of the Joker?
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« Reply #110 on: 08-10-2008 21:23 »

Ledger's Joker was better than Nicholson's Joker, I will admit. But I think a big part of it is because The Dark Knight is an overall better movie.

I'm kind of getting tired of reading internet nerds trash Nicholson--he was great, man! He was funny. Top notch stuff, especially considering that this was a comic book movie made in the 80's. What more do you want?
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« Reply #111 on: 08-10-2008 21:37 »

Riddle me this?

If Perez says it, it must be true!
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« Reply #112 on: 08-11-2008 12:18 »

Dear internet nerds. GTFO off my interwebs for playing favourites with the movie Jokers. Both kick equal amounts of ass.

Never Rub Another Mans Rhubarb! will always kick ass.
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« Reply #113 on: 08-11-2008 19:52 »

Tim burton's Batman was awesome.. in every way..

Also i considered great the new batman (batman begins)... as the Angry Nerd said.. many people confuse nostalgia with "worst-better".. they are hard to compare because they both are so high in their own levels..

of course that makes easy for me to say i hate Batmar Forever and B&R ..because they suck full stop. Batman's return was nice but is somehow inferior to the original Tim Burton movie.
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« Reply #114 on: 08-12-2008 21:37 »

The 1989 Tim Burton Batman was great! Saw it in theaters, just the dark, creepy effects in it, loved it then, still love it now.

Heath did an Awesome! job, but I still like Jack Nicholson's Joker more.

...and Tommy Lee Jones was a wayyyy better Two-Face!
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« Reply #115 on: 08-12-2008 23:08 »

...srsly?
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« Reply #116 on: 08-12-2008 23:29 »

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No! Bad! Tommy Lee Jones Two-Face just chewed scenary and relied too much on the coin gimmick.
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« Reply #117 on: 08-13-2008 00:05 »

Technically speaking.... a lot of Two-Face's character actions rely very heavily on the coin gimmick... Essentially, his insanity is based in the idea that his whole life and every choice he makes must be made in his mind based on the flip of a coin.

You should have said something about Tommy Lee Jones being too old... and then discussed how the plot was crummy and the atmosphere was ridiculous and looked like it was made with children's clay and colouring crayons.
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« Reply #118 on: 08-13-2008 05:54 »

There was one thing that stuck out about Tommy Lee's portrayal. A silly little thing I know but in one of the scenes he continously flips the coin til he get's the outcome he wants..this did not make sense to me. That and he was Two face only because of the scars not because there was any internal conflict.

In my mind the new portryal wiped the bad memories of Tommy Lee away. Now they just need a decent Poison Ivy and Mr Freeze (never mind of the second one, the animated version is the definitive version)
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« Reply #119 on: 08-13-2008 06:08 »

See... your point is a lot more valid wu... it's been awhile since I've seen those last two movies, so I can't quite remember them.
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