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PEE Poll: Should Star Wars Re-release Episodes 4,5,6 or not?
Hell,yeah   -9 (60%)
WHAT THE HELL...!   -5 (33.3%)
dont give a sh*t   -1 (6.7%)
im not in to that thing   -0 (0%)
Total Voters: 15

dr.bender nye

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« on: 05-16-2005 11:28 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2005 00:00 »

Before saying ANYTHING i have searched for this.
Now Star Wars is almost compleate [3 MORE DAYS]theres a question i wanna know:
Should Star Wars Re-release Episodes 4,5,6 or not?
use the force to deside.

I RULE WITH A STRAIGHT EDGE!
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #1 on: 05-16-2005 11:59 »

I assume you mean in their original, un-Special forms.

In which case yes, that would be very nice of Mr. Lucas to do for his devoted fans.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #2 on: 05-16-2005 12:06 »

Hell yeah, Release the unedited Originals for the last time.
Davey

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« Reply #3 on: 05-16-2005 13:10 »

They did 6 years ago.

END OF TOPIC!
CyberKnight

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« Reply #4 on: 05-16-2005 14:30 »

That was the original "Special Editions" (which have since been superceded by the 2004 Special Editions).

Personally I think Lucas is selfish for not releasing the unedited originals. Part of the implied contract when you release a movie is that you're sharing a story with millions of other people. To then say "No! Mine! Don't wanna have original version released!" is not only ridiculous, but an insult to the people who worked on the movies and the original special effects (in my opinion).

If there was a valid financial argument against releasing the originals on DVD, I'd understand, but seeing as how:

a) most of the work is done already
b) there's a fair share of people who would buy any edition of the original trilogy they could get their hands on

I don't think there is.
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #5 on: 05-16-2005 14:41 »

You know, I really don't give that much of a shit whether it's the original movies or the ones with the special effects a little more spiffed up. It's just a few good movies, Cyber. I don't understand Star Wars nuts who act like George Lucas has run over their dog, just because he likes a different version better and thinks it's better and should be what people see when they watch Star Wars.

In the end, I strongly doubt it's worth caring about.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #6 on: 05-16-2005 20:06 »

MadCapper, your post seems to only make it very clear that you don't have a clear grasp of just how influential these films are.

The original Star Wars trilogy, for all its flaws, are three of the most important films EVER MADE.  Regardless of how well you like them, they are huge, huge pieces of history.  To erase them isn't just an attack on fan preference, its a crime against history preservation itself.

Let's put it this way....what if they released new "updated" versions of The Godfather?  Or the original King Kong? Or Jaws? (well they did sort of do that one).  How about a new version of Citizen Kane while we're at it?  And lets say in all of those cases we could never see the originals again?  Hopefully you get my point.

So yes, I would like the originals released again, not just because I vastly prefer the originals (the new Australian accent on Boba Fett would be comical if it wasn't so sad), but because I believe it is WRONG to lock the originals away.  Its a crime against history and, as Cyberknight said, an insult to the moviegoers that loved them and the people that worked so hard to bring those original movies out.
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #7 on: 05-16-2005 20:39 »
« Last Edit on: 05-16-2005 20:39 »

It really depends on what version you're talking about, and in what way of re-releasing them you mean. They got re-released a short while back on DVD. In 1997 or 1999, they were re-released on VHS.
So do you mean re-released like that, or re-released in theatres? Personally, I don't really care, since I own all the DVDs. But it would be nice to go into the theatre and see the original trilogy on the big screen.
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« Reply #8 on: 05-16-2005 21:03 »

I'd like the Original Originals on DVD, as they've already come out and now are impossible to find.

If it were to come back in theatres, that would be great, originals or edited version. Wouldn't really matter to me if either went to theatres.
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #9 on: 05-16-2005 21:12 »

They are being redone for the 2007 mega-saga DVD release. They will fix a few things that still look a bit ghetto, like the cataclysmic explosions of Alderran and the Death Star.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #10 on: 05-16-2005 21:14 »

Boba/Jango has a New Zealand accent, not an Australian one. That's all I care about.
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« Reply #11 on: 05-16-2005 22:54 »

Aren't all 6 being rereleased in 3d?
Grim

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« Reply #12 on: 05-17-2005 00:08 »

 
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Originally posted by ShortRoundMcfly:
They are being redone for the 2007 mega-saga DVD release. They will fix a few things that still look a bit ghetto, like the cataclysmic explosions of Alderran and the Death Star.

There was talk that ep1 was going to be redone for this with a digital yoda to replace the bad puppeteering.

Personally I'd like the yoda changed in episode 1 because the puppet was WORSE than the return of the jedi
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #13 on: 05-17-2005 01:09 »

^Yeah, it was. At least in Episodes V & VI, Yoda had an excuse, since was was so old. But in Episode I, he was supposed to be "younger".
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #14 on: 05-17-2005 02:20 »

well when i say "Re-release" i also mean "re-edit"
so you may say about that.
Grim

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« Reply #15 on: 05-17-2005 03:29 »

 
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Originally posted by Eyedol7513:
^Yeah, it was. At least in Episodes V & VI, Yoda had an excuse, since was was so old. But in Episode I, he was supposed to be "younger".

The puppet in V & VI was good, because he had a set specifically built for his use and you could hide a traditional muppet puppeteer underneath it, they didnt go to this trouble in Ep1 and it showed in his jerky movements. also the puppet in 1 seemed inflexible and fake looking when compared to the older puppet
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #16 on: 05-17-2005 03:41 »

^That's what I meant.
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« Reply #17 on: 05-17-2005 07:10 »

I would like to see Han quietly blast Greedo under the table one last time. And a Non Hayden Anakin Glowie at the end of ROTJ.
bankrupt

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« Reply #18 on: 05-17-2005 08:22 »

CyberKnight and DotheBartman pretty much summed up my ideas on the subject.  I have no desire to pay for Special Edition (special in that they suck) versions of the originals in any medium. 
Ben

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« Reply #19 on: 05-17-2005 11:39 »
« Last Edit on: 05-17-2005 11:39 »

I don't see why basically the same movies should be re-released so some geek can orgasm over seeing a tie-fighter vanish a split second before the accompanying explosion, all in spectacular DVD quality.

Most (if not all) those complaining here were born way after the original trilogy was gone from cinemas, anyway. This whole worship of the unedited versions, especially by generations that missed its cinema release, is just unabashed elitism on the part of fanatics who can't face the fact that the object of their affection is a mainstream phenomenon - and was long before they'd heard of it/read the fan fiction novels/memorised the technical specifications of the TIE Interceptor.

Decrying the updated versions will never make Star Wars indie. It may make you feel like you're part of a hardened conclave of fans set apart from the regular people who watch the films just because they're entertaining films, but you'd be no better than some kid who starts listening to a popular bad because of their hit single, becomes obsessed, then denounces all of their popular stuff because, in his mind, it sets him apart from all of those lame mainstreamers.

As far as Lucasfilm is concerned, the Special Editions are Star Wars now.
CyberKnight

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« Reply #20 on: 05-17-2005 12:18 »

Actually, I don't specifically hate the Special Editions, but I think it's important to give people the choice as to which version they want to watch.
bankrupt

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« Reply #21 on: 05-17-2005 12:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Ben:
Decrying the updated versions will never make Star Wars indie. It may make you feel like you're part of a hardened conclave of fans set apart from the regular people who watch the films just because they're entertaining films, but you'd be no better than some kid who starts listening to a popular bad because of their hit single, becomes obsessed, then denounces all of their popular stuff because, in his mind, it sets him apart from all of those lame mainstreamers.

Did you make up that bloated analysis all by yourself?  Who cares about Star Wars being indie? Your ramble misses the much simpler point that some people just like the original cuts better.  That's it, really.
mint

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« Reply #22 on: 05-17-2005 17:53 »

I think so; even we already got the special digital remake edition of star wars 4 to 6.
wu_konguk

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« Reply #23 on: 05-17-2005 19:18 »

I will say that I like the Star Wars films it what ever format. It would be nice for nostalgia's sake to see the orginal versions again (although I am guessing there are very few who have the orginal star wars before they added the New Hope rider).

The way I see it is that it is very similar to a famous anime film Akira. Both Star Wars and Akira are seminal pieces and changed both of their respective genres. Also a few years back Akira was remastered (include redoing all the voice work), and while the remastered version was good it was not as good as the orginal (some of the script changes reduced some of the characterisation). The remastered version was then released on DVD.

Unlike Star wars (at least so far) after a fan out cry they released a new DVD set that contained both the orginal version of the film and the remastered version.

Of course it is up to George Lucas as to what he releases, it would just be nice if we were given a choice between the orginals and the remastered version.
starone

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« Reply #24 on: 05-18-2005 00:10 »

I myself have the origionals so I'm not as fired up about this as most people but I would really like to have widescreen versions.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #25 on: 05-18-2005 02:28 »

Ben, I don't know indie elitism has to do with this.  It really doesn't even make sense.  Of course these are mainstream movies.  No one said they aren't.  If anything, that's part of the point.  They're such huge, historic, important, mainstream movies around the world that it just seems ridiculous to lock them away forever.  Again, would you want an updated Citizen Kane, and be told that you could never view the original ever again?

Its not just the effects fixes either.  You make it sound minor.  No, there's story changes, tone changes, and even in terms of effects, frankly there's a lot of new stuff that's not only useless but looks worse then the original effects and doesn't mesh well with it, which detracts from the experience (these movies rely on immersing you into them, and it hurts them a lot when certain effects just stand out as being different from the others).

Yes, I was born in 1986, after the originals left theaters.  I also prefer the originals nonetheless for various reasons, and I also believe that I and future generations should be given the choice of seeing the original versions.  If Lucas wants to release updated versions I guess I don't care.  I hate a lot of the changes (not all of them actually; for instance I thought the revised celebration ending in ROTJ was pretty good, at least before they added gungans), but I can live with them.  But to release those and not at least give us the option of the originals....its just ridiculous. 
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« Reply #26 on: 05-18-2005 06:09 »
« Last Edit on: 05-18-2005 06:09 »

Eh, I think Ben does have a point. At least with the band comparison. But star wars isnt watched by the mainstream just because its an entertaining film. Everyone has a nostalgia about starwars, and to be honest I dont want to watch a movie, thats like mutton done up as lamb. Revamp the special effects all you want, It still wont change the fact that Luke Skywalker looks like he just came from a disco, Princess Leia looks like some kinda Bavarian Holy woman and Darth Vaders costume looks like something that was thrown together in the back room of an Adult novelty store over the weekend.

The movie is fundamentally based in the 70's and mixing that in with the styles of the 21'st century just makes it look like an ugly hodgepodge. I prefer to appreciate old movies for what they are.  Not try and compare them to modern movies.
I think lucas is just afraid to let his movies be judged on thier owns merits so he wants to keep hiding them behind the flashiest special effects he can muster. Well that, and he needs to keep belting out merchandise.

   
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Originally posted by starone:
I myself have the origionals so I'm not as fired up about this as most people but I would really like to have widescreen versions.

Wait! You have the originals? Dude, you have got to get those encoded and out on bittorrent.
Save the data for future generations before Lucas hunts the copies down and destroys every one and all who have seen them!

Ps: Ben did you watch the movie show, the lame sbs version. They said they weren't starwars fans yet they were furious when lucas went back and revised the movies, because it was the violation of a  principle that was offensive. You of all people should know that, at some point you have to acknowledge that a work is done, and move on because if you dont you will be picking at it forever.

I believe they also made a South park episode on this issue. Which would indicate to me that this is more than just an issue with Hardcore fans.
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« Reply #27 on: 05-18-2005 07:27 »

Indeed, I only bought the Special Editions because they were the only ones on DVD and the only thing special about them is I can watch them on my computer.

Lucas has gotten too reliant on CGI too, and loves reminding us of it in the remakes. What made Star Wars great was everything was hand crafted and the stunts were all real. I didn't mind when he touched up the Classics with improvements, but when he starts hacking into his originals with CGI and adding Gungan's and a New Zealand Accent to Boba Fett it just pisses me off.

I don't want to reminded of the Phantom Suckage and Attack of The Bores when I watch the originals.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #28 on: 05-18-2005 08:21 »

 
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What made Star Wars great was everything was hand crafted and the stunts were all real.

Oh yeah, the drop-Luke-down-a-near-infinite-air-shaft stunt. Man, Hamill's back was aching after that one.
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« Reply #29 on: 05-18-2005 08:45 »

I love how the fact all weapons are crafted out of rubber.

And being part of the set and witnessing the original Death Star Explosion must have been a blast.
David A

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« Reply #30 on: 05-18-2005 10:56 »

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
Boba/Jango has a New Zealand accent, not an Australian one.

In the version of Star Wars that I own, Boba Fett has neither.   tongue
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« Reply #31 on: 05-18-2005 11:52 »

I don't mind the accent really, since it's nicely done in KOTOR where all the Mandolorians sound like it in their armour, maybe if the accent only showed when the helmet was off would have been more acceptable.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #32 on: 05-18-2005 18:49 »

My problem with is that the original was so menacing and mysterious....and the current one is just a plain old accent.  It honestly kind of ruins the character.  Plus the lines (and especcially the awful delivery) just sound silly now.
Col. Klink

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« Reply #33 on: 05-19-2005 01:40 »

His original voice was so menacing, and he spoke so little you couldn't even make out what accent he had. You just assumed it was american.
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #34 on: 05-19-2005 02:19 »

Correct me if im wrong but Happy Star Wars Day!
Nurdbot

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« Reply #35 on: 05-19-2005 07:24 »

Fett sounded a lot more menacing sans accent to be honest, it ruined one of his best quotes in ESB.

As you wish doesn't sound as good as it once did.
Col. Klink

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« Reply #36 on: 05-19-2005 07:29 »

Lol. No disintergrations!

Wouldn't it suck if they actually remade the originals? I dont think the story of a new hope would translate over well the the epic style film makers do today, (Which lucas spawned. Notice I didn't say he pioneered it, He spawned it)
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« Reply #37 on: 05-19-2005 07:57 »

It would suck indeed, I shudder to think what they could do to rape SW. Infact...

Marketer: That Threepeo robot is too gay, we gotta make him X-TREME!
Retarded Director: Fine, lets make him speak with Texan Accent. In fact, make him a hip-hoppin' cowboy. Who surfs.
Marketer: Also, Princess Leia may not appeal to todays male.
Retarded Director: Fine, give her a real short skirt. Get a blonde asian girl to play her. I'll pay for the double D implants.
Marketer: And the Mothers might be alarmed at what a bad influnence Han Solo is.
Retarded Director: Right then, Han Solo is now a handsome looking Priest who shoots a Dartgun that puts people to sleep.
Marketeer: And people want Vader to be more Ghetto, Black is the new Black.
Retarded Director: Right, Lots of Bling. And make all those Stormtrooper guys chicks, scantily clad chicks.

And so on.
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« Reply #38 on: 05-19-2005 12:11 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
As you wish doesn't sound as good as it once did.

Seriously - not having Cary Elwes really ruined it for me.

( tongue)
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #39 on: 05-19-2005 13:24 »

 
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Originally posted by dr.bender nye:
well when i say "Re-release" i also mean "re-edit"
so you may say about that.
Already been done.  Twice.
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