The Simpsons 5th Thread Spectacular!

[Reply #680 on:]

I dont think I will. Allthough I would like to hear Julie Kavner on the commentry for Mr Spritz Goes To Washington.

JULIE: Is this the first appearence of Krusty?

*gunshot*

Yay TOTP! 

[Reply #681 on:]

I'll be getting Seasons 15+ for sure, but as for Seasons 10-14, they'd have to be given as gifts or available at a damn good price. I'd be very interested to hear the commentary on the more notoriously hated episodes like Monty Can't Buy Me Love and Saddlesore Galactica. So many questions, I'd like to know what the writers think of the feedback for those particular episodes, and if they're aware of the decline in quality (seems to me they were, since Al Jean's made jokes about undoing all the permanent changes in Scully's seasons and what-not). Though I doubt they'd say anything on the record. I'd also like to hear the commentary for The Bart of War, purely to hear their opinions of South Park.

As for when the show should've ended, I'd say Season 9. The quality was starting to drop there, but it was still very watchable and funny, and would've gone out on top had it finished there, before it started to become retarded with Season 10.

[Reply #682 on:]

I concur about the show ending at S9. For me, the show started going downhill the very instant Lisa said 'I feel sorry for you.' in LTS. This brings up an interesting question: with all the minor spats of wackyness in ealeir Scully episodes, the game characters coming to life in MBNP, the ball popping on Lisa's hair in LOI ect would you say that we should have seen the Scully Era coming?

[Reply #683 on:]

The abbreviation of episode titles is really annoying in a show with as many episodes as The Simpsons. And what are you talking about? The show's had a tendancy for weird little jokes like that since Bart coughed up his hat in Season 1. The difference is that these were just one-off jokes and the story itself was still grounded fairly realistically. The Scully era took it way, way too far, and didn't seem to care about good writing at all.

For me, the first signs of the decline were with Simpson Tide. It was the first Scully episode that was really overly crazy the entire way through, and unlike other "wacky" episodes like Marge vs the Monorail and You Only Move Twice, this one really lacked in humour. I honestly don't mind episodes like this - they can be some of my favourite episodes if done right. But when joke-centric episodes aren't funny, they're just painful to watch.

[Reply #684 on:]

LTS=Lisa The Sceptic
MBNP=Marge Be Not Proud
LOI=Lisa On Ice

There you go! 

[Reply #685 on:]

So I figured. Except for LTS, which I thought was Lisa the Simpson for a while... which is also from Season 9. Abbreviations are evil, I tells ya!

Though back on topic, I'm going to go on the record and say that the first really off-the-wall episode is Season 3's Brother Can You Spare Two Dimes? Most people say Marge vs the Monorail, but come on - the sperm sequence, the baby translator, etc? Hardly down-to-earth at all, especially for such an early episode.

[Reply #686 on:]

Jockey Elves.

[Reply #687 on:]

What was the point of that? No one is arguing that seasons 10-12 weren't the wackiest, just that the wackiness seen in many of Scully's eariler episodes has always been a part of the series.

I wouldn't have had any problem with Jockey Elves if they weren't actually central to the plot. Like, if it were just a cut away to what Homer imagines jockeys are really like or something. Christ, even the first 3 seasons of Family Guy wouldn't have had those central to the plot.

[Reply #688 on:]

Jockey Elves would have worked had it been a Halloween episode. But god, what the fuck? Was that supposed to be funny? It seems like there most episodes made in Seasons 10-12 were done to INTENTIONALLY piss off the fans.

[Reply #689 on:]

That and the tomacco episode made me stop watching The Simpsons weekly. Grandpa's house burned down a few seasons before so the tomacco episode shouldn't have been made at all.

[Reply #690 on:]

 

Originally posted by Beamer:
Jockey Elves would have worked had it been a Halloween episode. But god, what the fuck? Was that supposed to be funny? It seems like there most episodes made in Seasons 10-12 were done to INTENTIONALLY piss off the fans.

Thats exactly what I am starting to think! Maybe they were bored with the show and wanted to get cancelled because they didnt want to come out and say 'We quit.'

[Reply #691 on:]

 

Originally posted by homerjaysimpson:
That and the tomacco episode made me stop watching The Simpsons weekly. Grandpa's house burned down a few seasons before so the tomacco episode shouldn't have been made at all.

Continuity is a dirty word amoungst Simpsons writers. If you really want to be a continuity stickler then just say that the Tomacco episode occured before GVSI.

[Reply #692 on:]

I loved the Jockey Elves. 

We are the jockeys, the jockeys are we....

[Reply #693 on:]

To each there own I guess. I like realistic humour and witty social commentery, you prefer unrealistic off the wall shite.

[Reply #694 on:]

You have nothing to contribute Yardstick, the Simpsons will keep going strong for at least another 5 YEARS!  That's right another 5 YEARS!

[Reply #695 on:]

I'm hoping they stop it at Season 20. End on a nice, round number...

And the Jockey Elves would've been fine on any other show. I love "unrealistic off the wall shite," but I'm a firm believer in grounding your show in its own reality. If it makes sense in the show's universe, then that's fine, but using them specifically as a plot point on THIS show just doesn't work.

[Reply #696 on:]

You'd like that.... wouldn't you?

Bastard, that's what I say, Racist Bastard, that's what you are, you son of a bitch!

[Reply #697 on:]

Are you trying to make fun of me?

[Reply #698 on:]

I don't think anyone has to try.

[Reply #699 on:]

Yeardley Smith 42 today! XD

[Reply #700 on:]

 

Originally posted by Yardstick2006:
To each there own I guess. I like realistic humour and witty social commentery, you prefer unrealistic off the wall shite.

"Unrealistic off the wall shite"? Are you really serious? ALL of the Simpsons is "unrealistic off the wall shite". "Witty social commentary" doesn't cover half the jokes they put out, most of it is "unrealistic off the wall shite". I loved the jockey song: We live underground in a fiberglass tree...

You pretentious, hypocritical twat, why are you still on this board?

[Reply #701 on:]

 

Originally posted by TriggerHappyJim:
 "Unrealistic off the wall shite"? Are you really serious? ALL of the Simpsons is "unrealistic off the wall shite". "Witty social commentary" doesn't cover half the jokes they put out, most of it is "unrealistic off the wall shite". I loved the jockey song: We live underground in a fiberglass tree...

Theres a difference between 'surreal' and 'being wacky for the fuck of it' the unusual episode with the talking cyote was unusual, but it was Homer's dream and nothing more. Compare that the retarded Jockey Elves, no indication was given that it was a dream so it breakes the rule of down to earth reality, that same reality-grounded plausibility that made TS a sucsess in the fucking first place. Now the show is reduced to a shadow of its former self, enjoyed only by brainless Tvio jockyes, vetrean fans clamouring to find one last shred of the show they once loved and you.

[Reply #702 on:]

Nonono, you failed to answer my question, don't you start mouthing off at me. I told you that you were a pretentious, hypocritical twat. I then went on to ask why you were still on this board.

Besides, you are blinded by your own self-righteousness; you can’t seem to accept that people enjoy different things to you. I enjoyed the wackiness. I honestly did not see a drop in plausibility compared to the rest of the Simpsons universe. I’m sorry if you saw it differently, but why you claim to hold an intellectual high ground because of it is entirely beyond me.

[Reply #703 on:]

Here's the reason: The jockey elves were a plot point. Normally, when The Simpsons does something extremely wacky (eg. Leonard Nimoy fading into nothing in Marge vs the Monorail), it's just a one-off joke, and the storyline itself remains down to earth. When you have something that fucking stupid as a major part of the storyline, that's where the problems start. And unless it's a Halloween episode, an alternate reality episode or a fantasy sequence, I don't believe The Simpsons should be stooping to that level.

[Reply #704 on:]

@ THJ

I'm here because I like Futurama and The Simpsons and like to discuss them. I'm not going to leave just because of you or anyone else here. As I have said before, if I go away it wont be on purpose.

@ Beamer

Precisly. Jockey Elves where part of the plot. Nimoy vanishing does strech it a bit but it isnt a plot point so its ok.

[Reply #705 on:]

Just looked up this year's emmy nominations.  The Simpsons was nominated for "The Seemingly Neverending Story."  South Park is up for "Trapped in the Closet" and Family Guy is up for "PTV."  Camp Lazlo and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends are also up but I don't remember what for.

The Boondocks got robbed....

[Reply #706 on:]

You know, I didn't like Trapped in the Closet, and thought both FG's and The Simpsons' respective episodes were better.  However, for political (well, entertainment politics) reasons, and hatred of Tom Cruise, you'll understand if I root for South Park this year.

[Reply #707 on:]

Trapped in the Closet was a somewhat average episode - granted, it made a good point, but it was fairly lacking in humour, and is only so popular due to the controversy it caused. With that episode possibly banned from Comedy Central, something tells me Matt and Trey submitted it JUST so more people could see it. I wouldn't put it past them.

As for Family Guy, they did submit a very funny episode, but come on, the show just does not deserve an Emmy, full-stop. Any idiot can write it. The Simpsons definitely submitted the right episode this year, and while I feel The Seemingly Never-Ending Story is better than Trapped in the Closet, I'll still be rooting for South Park purely out of loyalty. Though no love lost if The Simpsons wins, they certainly deserve it. 

And, of course, I'll be rooting for Arrested Development in the four categories that's nominated in. I hope that show does well, it'd be the ultimate "screw you" to Fox if it cleaned up again.

[Reply #708 on:]

I like Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, but there are better episodes than the one that got nominated, so I don't really care if it wins or not.

I don't even watch South Park, but if the the nominated episode makes fun of Tom Cruise I'll root for that.

 

Originally posted by DotheBartman:
The Boondocks got robbed....

Blame the white man.  That's what Huey would do.

[Reply #709 on:]

I hope The Simpsons win this year. They did indeed submit the right episode. Family Guy doesn't deserve to win, simply put. I thought that South Park could've nominated a different episode, but I didn't think that Trapped in the Closet was too good. It won't win. Camp Lalzo and Fosters may be the "dark horse" this year, though I think Fosters would have a better chance than Lalzo.

[Reply #710 on:]

 

Originally posted by TriggerHappyJim:
Nonono, you failed to answer my question, don't you start mouthing off at me. I told you that you were a pretentious, hypocritical twat. I then went on to ask why you were still on this board.

Besides, you are blinded by your own self-righteousness; you can’t seem to accept that people enjoy different things to you. I enjoyed the wackiness. I honestly did not see a drop in plausibility compared to the rest of the Simpsons universe. I’m sorry if you saw it differently, but why you claim to hold an intellectual high ground because of it is entirely beyond me.

Because the Simpsons are supposed to be grounded in reality as apposed to the wacky mess it was in the Scully Era. Mike Scully ruined the Simpsons. I defy any true Simpsons fan to say that they found Homer being mauled by a badgar funny or being molested by a panda. The show was once the pinnicale of adult animated comedy, now it is pandering to Joe Dumbass of USA. That saddens me more than anything.


Oh and DoTheBartMan, stop posting.

[Reply #711 on:]

I accept your apology, THJ.

[Reply #712 on:]

Wow, I just saw a Simpsonms season 1-7 boxset for 4000 Thai baht, 10 discs in a box the size of a Western box set, probably no special features but still, that's pretty cool for 80 euro.

[Reply #713 on:]

Keep in mind the quality of those is probably extremely poor.  They might be from syndication, and they would almost certainly have the logo "bug" on the lower right corner on some of the episodes.

[Reply #714 on:]

I couldn't remember if we have a separate thread for movie news or now, so I'm hoping this is the right place to put this.  I found these posted at TGFWC:

An article on the Simpsons panel at Comic-Con.

A semi-spoilerific animatic from the movie itself (shown at Comic-Con).

Another semi-spoilerific animatic from the movie.

[Reply #715 on:]

Bump to show off. 

[Reply #716 on:]

It's good to see the simpsons returning before november.  Now we can watch the halloween episode in October.  Is this related to the 'new' network [the cw] they are competing against?

 

[Reply #717 on:]

 

Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Bump to show off.   

Quite A Nice Collection I Have About Half Of Those.

[Reply #718 on:]

 

Originally posted by DarrinPA:
It's good to see the simpsons returning before november.  Now we can watch the halloween episode in October.  Is this related to the 'new' network [the cw] they are competing against?

 

No, they did that last year too.  They're just figuring out ways of not having the season start so late.  But don't get your hopes up for the halloween episode.  Like last year, October will still be "off" for the show to make way for the World Series.  So no halloween episode until November, as usual.

Not that I care anymore....how long since a halloween episode even mattered, anyway?

[Reply #719 on:]

Was "Alone Again Natura-Diddly" any good?