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Yardstick2006

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« Reply #600 on: 04-26-2006 09:08 »
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Lisa finds out what it's like to be a part of the "boys' club" in the "Girls Just Want to Have Sums" episode OF THE SIMPSONS Sunday, April 30 (8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT), the first of four all-new May Sweeps installments. Springfield is in an uproar after Principal Skinner makes a sexist comment at the end of an Itchy and Scratchy musical. He's soon replaced by Melanie Upfoot (guest voice Frances McDormand), a women's educational expert, who decides to divide the school into two: one for boys and one for girls. Frustrated that she isn't learning anything at the girls' school, studious Lisa decides to dress up as a boy to get a better education.

This is the one I am looking forward to the most as it has the most promosing premise. Regarding Margie could go either way, same for Monkey Suit.

In the 17th season finale of THE SIMPSONS Sunday, May 21 (8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT), entitled "Homer and Marge Turn a Couple Play," Mandy Moore and Stacy Keach guest-voice. After a passionate kiss between Marge and Homer airs on the Isotope Jumbotron, struggling second baseman Buck Mitchell turns to the couple for marital advice. The Simpsons are able to get Buck and his sexy singing wife, Fiona (guest voice Moore), on track, and the Isotopes' season turns for the better. Things seem to be coming up aces for the Simpsons until Buck catches Homer giving Fiona a post-show neck massage, which results in both couples separating.

DANGER REHASH ALERT!!!!!!!!

Yay TOTP w00ts are in order!
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« Reply #601 on: 04-27-2006 06:01 »

Got the season 7 dvd. Easily the best season ever.
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« Reply #602 on: 04-27-2006 13:12 »

 
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The sweeps episodes have all been announced now.  The second to last episode ("The Monkey Suit", about the school being forced to teach creationism) sounds like it could be really good if done right. 


Man, they'd better have a reference to William Jennings Bryan and the Scoopes Monkey Trial in there. That would be the greatest thing ever.
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« Reply #603 on: 04-27-2006 15:41 »

I figured that was the point...
newhook_1

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« Reply #604 on: 04-27-2006 16:08 »

Well, I doubt they'd build an episode around events that were current in the early 20s.
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« Reply #605 on: 04-27-2006 17:55 »

Bet?
newhook_1

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« Reply #606 on: 04-27-2006 18:15 »

Oh, shut the hell up and give me my god damned William Jennings Bryan.  tongue
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #607 on: 04-28-2006 07:49 »
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EDIT: I dont know why I  posted that.
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #608 on: 05-06-2006 04:54 »

Girls Just Wanna Have Sums

Bland, boring garbage. F-
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #609 on: 05-08-2006 01:58 »

I dont know why Yeardley bothers any more. Its clear that she isnt trying. None of the actors are. They have lateley sounded like poor impersonations of themselves. Not so much Dan, Hank and Harry. But Julie, Nancy and Yeardley.


I guess there just sick of the lackluster material there bein given.
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« Reply #610 on: 05-08-2006 02:08 »

-I was not even watching this episode 100%. All I remember was Marge having amnesia, her not knowing Homer was her husband, then her and Homer riding into the sunset. (Yes, together again.)
-There was no suspense for me, since I knew they were going to get back together. That alone brought the quality of the episode down.
newhook_1

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« Reply #611 on: 05-08-2006 08:00 »
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When "Secrets of a Successful Marriage" aired in season 5, did you think the split between Homer and Marge would be permanet then? Hell, the first time you saw "Life in the Fast Lane", did you really think Marge would choose Jaques over Homer?
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #612 on: 05-08-2006 11:06 »

I think Eyedol is trying to say that after so many episodes dealing with 'Homer and Marge  break up'plots that the suspence is no longer there.
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« Reply #613 on: 05-08-2006 12:02 »

And what Newhook is trying to say is that the show uses an "everything is back to normal at the end of the episode" formula, and there was never any suspence to begin with.
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #614 on: 05-08-2006 12:06 »

So what is the point in the episodes?
Beamer

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« Reply #615 on: 05-08-2006 12:41 »

To entertain, to make people laugh, tell a little story and maybe even touch people with the characters. As fun as it is, a show doesn't need suspence to be good. The Simpsons formula has been successful for far different reasons.
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« Reply #616 on: 05-08-2006 19:43 »

The point of the episode was to announce that Milhouse was now lactose tolerant, of course.

Other than the point that the story got nowhere in the end, I liked the episode. The credits, I thought, were funny.
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #617 on: 05-09-2006 04:20 »

 
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Originally posted by Beamer:
To entertain, to make people laugh, tell a little story and maybe even touch people with the characters. As fun as it is, a show doesn't need suspence to be good. The Simpsons formula has been successful for far different reasons.

There really is no point in 'Homer and Marge split up' episodes as we know that they will get together at the end. Unless The crew are going to have them split up this season I suggest dropping those episodes all together.


I'm not saying that the episodes where Homer and Marge split up are all bad, just that there really is no point in having them.

DotheBartman

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« Reply #618 on: 05-09-2006 05:22 »

Shit, there's very little fiction even where you can't basically guess the ending beforehand, let alone tv shows where for the most part everything has to "reset" by the end for the next episode.  If knowing how it's going to end is that big an issue to you, you might as well not watch The Simpsons.  Only a few episodes ever have really had surprise endings.

The important thing is the execution.  Unfortunately, the Homer and Marge plots have not had great execution lately, and I would even suggest that they should be put to rest permenentally.  But it has nothing to do with predictability of the ending (I would say predictability of the execution is an issue though...).  There was never any doubt in any Homer and Marge episode ever that they would still be together by the end.

You know, I just don't really see the point of that whole Lord of the Rings trilogy.  I mean, you just know they're going to destroy the ring by the end anyway, right?
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #619 on: 05-09-2006 11:41 »

OK, but dont you agree that the sheer number of them kinda nullifies the novelty?
newhook_1

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« Reply #620 on: 05-09-2006 11:54 »

I do think that everyone can agree to that.

Who knows, though? Maybe someone out there still enjoys them.
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« Reply #621 on: 05-09-2006 12:01 »

To an extent, but it's understandable. I mean, character relationships play a huge part of The Simpsons, as do relatable family issues such as money, sibling rivalry, etc. As the two main adult characters, and the two main married characters, Homer and Marge's relationship is the focal point of many episodes for those reasons, and with some 370 episodes now, it's no surpirse that their marriage would've been in jeopardy more than once. No show about a family, no matter how good the writers are, could last that long without going to that idea multiple times.

Personally, I don't mind Homer and Marge episodes at all, the problem is that so many of them follow the typical "Homer does something stupid, Marge and Homer temporarily seperate and one of them leaves the house, Homer comes up with a plan to get Marge back, but it fails and his life is in danger, and they rekindle their relationship when Marge rescues him" formula. As DoTheBartman said, it all comes down to execution, which The Simpsons hasn't been too good at lately. So many good episode ideas have been ruined simply by the way they were pulled off...

Still, your suggestion of having Marge and Homer actually split up is just horrible, and would kill the show. Permanent changes in The Simpsons are usually never for the better - they killed characters like Apu and Barney. Suggesting that a show using this formula after 17 years should throw it all away for a rather unoriginal idea just to surprise audiences is a guaranteed shark-jumping move if I ever heard one.
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #622 on: 05-10-2006 06:30 »

 
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To an extent, but it's understandable. I mean, character relationships play a huge part of The Simpsons, as do relatable family issues such as money, sibling rivalry, etc. As the two main adult characters, and the two main married characters, Homer and Marge's relationship is the focal point of many episodes for those reasons, and with some 370 episodes now, it's no surpirse that their marriage would've been in jeopardy more than once. No show about a family, no matter how good the writers are, could last that long without going to that idea multiple times.

Personally, I don't mind Homer and Marge episodes at all, the problem is that so many of them follow the typical "Homer does something stupid, Marge and Homer temporarily seperate and one of them leaves the house, Homer comes up with a plan to get Marge back, but it fails and his life is in danger, and they rekindle their relationship when Marge rescues him" formula. As DoTheBartman said, it all comes down to execution, which The Simpsons hasn't been too good at lately. So many good episode ideas have been ruined simply by the way they were pulled off...

Still, your suggestion of having Marge and Homer actually split up is just horrible, and would kill the show. Permanent changes in The Simpsons are usually never for the better - they killed characters like Apu and Barney. Suggesting that a show using this formula after 17 years should throw it all away for a rather unoriginal idea just to surprise audiences is a guaranteed shark-jumping move if I ever heard one.

It COULD work as a two parter though. In the first half make it seem like there really going to stay apart and then suprise them in the second part. It would be an oringinal take on a rather tired premise.

newhook_1

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« Reply #623 on: 05-10-2006 07:55 »
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So, in other words, you want them to use the same formula... except over the span of two episodes? I tell ya, this man is brilliant.

Nay the problem is with the overall quality of the writing combined with the age of the series. Having a two-parter wouldn't fix anything.

Now, what the show really needs is more yellow boobies. That would fix everything.
Beamer

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« Reply #624 on: 05-13-2006 04:00 »

Pfft, that's your sollution for everything.

Anyway, I saw Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore yesterday. Hilarious episode, possibly tied with The Seemingly Never-Ending Story as my favourite of the season, so far. Lots of laughs, especially with the MacGyver plot. A-
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #625 on: 05-13-2006 05:03 »

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? That episode sucked ass!
Beamer

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« Reply #626 on: 05-13-2006 05:13 »

Oh no, someone has an opinion that's different from yours! Better put on your angry hat, Yardstick!
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #627 on: 05-13-2006 08:50 »

You clearley suffer from Post-Scully Delution Syndrome. [If it aint Scully then its automatically good!] If KKBB had aired in the Scully Era you would be lambasting it as the worst episode ever. It contained all the hallmarks of a bad episode. Stupid vacation plot [Homer goes to India] a lame-o plot twist [Homer becoming the ruler of the Indian Plant] and a stupid guest star that added nothing [Mac Gyver]

Its kinda sad how many fans have deluded themseves into accepting trite instead of quality.

I weep for the human race.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #628 on: 05-13-2006 15:21 »

OH NOES!!!!!111  If people don't start having correct opinions of Simpsons episodes, humanity will END!!!!11 (BUM BUM BUM)

Seriously, dude, use some level of logic.  Beamer himself has said many negative things about newer episodes and given negative reviews.  It has nothing to do with forgiving the show because it isn't Scully.  It has everything to do with taking each episode on it's own merits and evaluating each one individually, which you clearly have no cognitive ability to do.
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« Reply #629 on: 05-13-2006 19:34 »

Channel 10 didn't play "Simpsons Christmas Stories" in Australia last week. They had it advertised and everything. Instead they played "How I Spent My Strummer Vacation". Idiots.
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« Reply #630 on: 05-13-2006 22:03 »

I never saw any commercials for Simpsons Christmas Stories... In fact, I saw several commercials for My Strummer Vacation (they were using the whole Keith Richards-palm tree incident to promote it for some stupid-ass reason). Oh well, either way, you're not missing out on much, Simpsons Christmas Stories sucked ass, as do most non-Treehouse of Horror 3-story episodes.

Yardstick - Like DotheBartman said, I've been one of the most critical people of the new season. Fuck, I don't think I gave a single positive review out of the first 10 episodes, mainly because I felt they were severely lacking in humour. I'm aware that Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore had a pretty stupid storyline, but at the end of the day, it kept me laughing the entire way through. The Simpsons is primarily a comedy, after all - if an episode isn't funny, then it's usually not good.

The problem with Scully's episodes is that, not only did they totally lack in storylines and character development, but the try-hard humour they had simply wasn't funny. I'm more than willing to overlook story problems if an episode keeps me laughing (I mean, Weekend at Burnsies is one of my favourite episodes - sure, it has no storyline whatsoever, but it's easily one of the funniest episodes ever written). I'm the first to admit that Al Jean's episodes are very hit-or-miss in terms of comedy, but at least he's brought the characters back into the picture, which is more than I can say about Mike Scully. And if anything makes me weep for the human race, it's your general attitude. Go fuck yourself.  smile
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« Reply #631 on: 05-13-2006 22:53 »

 
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and a stupid guest star that added nothing [Mac Gyver]

When making fun of a stupid show like macgyver you have to be just as stupid or even more so.  Just like how the Bollywood thing was stupid, it was funny because they made something stupid even more stupid.

Stupid Count: 6 [actually 7]

Yardstick2006

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« Reply #632 on: 05-14-2006 08:32 »

 
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OH NOES!!!!!111  If people don't start having correct opinions of Simpsons episodes, humanity will END!!!!11 (BUM BUM BUM)

Seriously, dude, use some level of logic.  Beamer himself has said many negative things about newer episodes and given negative reviews.  It has nothing to do with forgiving the show because it isn't Scully.  It has everything to do with taking each episode on it's own merits and evaluating each one individually, which you clearly have no cognitive ability to do.

Shut Up. I actually like some of the episodes from the last few seasons. Fraudcast News, TGWSTL MSP to nane a few. It is just that these episodes are flukes, rare islands of quality in a neverending ocean of blandness. For me, Girls Just Wanna Have Sums was a huge dissapointment, it was bland, cotrived and dull. But like I said before, there are some episodes I like but these are few and far between. There are some things from the Jean Era that have made me clamp my hands over my eyes in horror [the Lisa Cake Scene in SWTE is a prime example] and would almost certainly have been ranked by the Panda Rape and Jockey Elves as the worst of the Scully Era had they aired then.

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« Reply #633 on: 05-14-2006 21:44 »

Wow, "Al Jean's bitch?" You really are incredibly stupid. DotheBartman might enjoy the new episodes more than the Scully era (and let's face it, most people do), but even then, he's really ever said anything THAT nice about Al Jean (after all, as good as the new episodes are, they can't compete with Seasons 2-8). And I don't think the rise in quality has had much to do with Al Jean either. After all, he took over in Season 13, but I never actually thought the show was improving until Season 15 (and even then, for every good episode in Season 15 like My Mother the Carjacker or The Way We Weren't, there's a bad episode like The Fat and the Furriest or The Regina Monologues). And yeah, the Lisa cake scene was a low point, but at least it had some kind of revelance to the episode. Although I thought Marge's Son Poisoning and The Girl Who Slept Too Little were pretty average (although the latter was directed beautifully).

But back to what I was saying earlier -fuck, DotheBartman even made a similar point in his post himself ("It has nothing to do with forgiving the show because it isn't Scully. It has everything to do with taking each episode on it's own merits and evaluating each one individually, which you clearly have no cognitive ability to do." ) and you just ignored that completely. And why should DotheBartman shut up? He's been here 2 and a half years longer than you, he's the biggest contributor to this thread, and easily one of the most intelligent posters here. If you disagree with him, then that's fine - everyone's entitled to their own opinion - but you've yet to make an intelligent argument against any other poster here, and until you go, then you are the one who should shut up.

The end.
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #634 on: 05-15-2006 02:07 »
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 And yeah, the Lisa cake scene was a low point, but at least it had some kind of revelance to the episode.
Do you even have a brain? Jockey elves where revelant to the episode. Does that make it any less harrowing to watch? Nope.

 
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Originally posted by Beamer:But back to what I was saying earlier -fuck, DotheBartman even made a similar point in his post himself ("It has nothing to do with forgiving the show because it isn't Scully. It has everything to do with taking each episode on it's own merits and evaluating each one individually, which you clearly have no cognitive ability to do." ) and you just ignored that completely. And why should DotheBartman shut up? He's been here 2 and a half years longer than you, he's the biggest contributor to this thread, and easily one of the most intelligent posters here. If you disagree with him, then that's fine - everyone's entitled to their own opinion - but you've yet to make an intelligent argument against any other poster here, and until you go, then you are the one who should shut up.

The end.

I did explain my point you ignorant baffon. Read that post again before you bust another synap trying to come up with a witty retort.

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« Reply #635 on: 05-15-2006 05:46 »
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I'm aware that the jockey elves were relevant to the plot in Saddlesore Galactica (as stupid as it was), however, I didn't specifically say they weren't. All I said was that the Lisa cake scene was relevant to the episode - a lot of the lower moments in Seasons 10-14 weren't.

And maybe you should read my post again, I never said you didn't explain your point, I said you didn't make an intelligent argument. Retard.

Anyway, enough of this, I'm getting real sick of arguing with you. It's like talking to a sponge, only you don't absorb anything whatsoever. So, back on topic, The Monkey Suit aired in the US last night. How was it?
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #636 on: 05-15-2006 08:07 »

Your just jealous because I know what a synap is.
The fact that you have resorted to name calling and that you have tried to change the subject indicates that you have no argument and you know it.


I win.
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« Reply #637 on: 05-15-2006 09:04 »
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Originally posted by Yardstick2006:
Your just jealous because I know what a synap is.
The fact that you have resorted to name calling and that you have tried to change the subject indicates that you have no argument and you know it.


I win.

Apperantly Dictionary.com does not know what a synap is either. I am aware of what a synapse is, a vital part of the body's nervous system, but I cannot place a meaning with the word synap for the life of me.

Perhaps you mean Snapple Iced Tea? If that's the case then I agree, Beamer should not burst another Snapple while coming up with witty retorts. That's a horrible waste of iced tea. Stop wasting a perfectly good beverage, you bastard.
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« Reply #638 on: 05-15-2006 14:01 »

 
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 Apperantly Dictionary.com does not know what a synap is either. I am aware of what a synapse is, a vital part of the body's nervous system, but I cannot place a meaning with the word synap for the life of me.

Perhaps you mean Snapple Iced Tea? If that's the case then I agree, Beamer should not burst another Snapple while coming up with witty retorts. That's a horrible waste of iced tea. Stop wasting a perfectly good beverage, you bastard.

D'OH! Yes, Newhook, I ment a synapse. Kudos, my friend, kudos

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« Reply #639 on: 05-16-2006 13:08 »

Can someones please tell me the name and season of the episode where sideshow bob tries to kill bart when he is on a boat? Bob gets bart in the night on a barge, i think it may be when the family have to relocate?
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