'Lost'

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But that strange thing (which could be just a piece of debris, like Eyedol said) does just destroy the engine, besides wasn't the plane ripped apart and not cut apart?

*mysterious TOTPD*

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Great, now I have to go back and watch the pilot frame by frame.  What kind of mysterious show of intrigue is this where I have to spend my time searching for clues on a DVD?

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Gocad: Not debris! *slaps sense into you*
Makes me wonder does it appear in the scene where you see the tail section fall into the water offshore...

DrT: Mwaha, watch me do it: *goes to his D: drive and opens Lost\Pilot.avi*
Wow, so easy! 

I'm beginning to wonder about the convenience of DVDs, especially when you have lots of them to change around. 

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It cant be a piece of Debris though, It swoops upwards afterwards, and its transparent.

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Huh? Transparent?

 

Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Gocad: Not debris! *slaps sense into you*

Oh mighty FazeShift, if it's not a piece of debris, then what is it?
Thanks to the rather small gif it's hard to see, but to me it looks like an ordinary irregular shaped piece of metal and that's it.

Also, you can stop slapping now.   

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Could be a tank top.  There were a lot of garments flying around that scene.

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Duh, the Monster!

The Islands defense system a fast moving, collection of what looks like smoke but has electricity running through it ... the airplane they were on had to turn around and was 1000 miles off course when it were brought down... if flew too near the island so the defense system thought it was a threat and pwned it! And BAM!
...a TV Show is born!

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About the smoke monster. It met Locke and Eko, and it let them both live. Perhaps it wants to keep the ones that are pure of heart.

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^It met Locke? When was this?

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Originally posted by Eyedol7513:
^It met Locke? When was this?

I think it was in the pilot. IIRC Locke said it was beautiful, but they didn't show what Locke had exactly seen.
However, towards the end of the first season Locke met the monster again, but this time he was really frightened.

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I don't think he saw it in the pilot.  You see him turn around to look at the trees shaking the first night, and the only time he's really in the scene is when he's talking to Walt about backgammon.  He might see it in "Walkabout" when he's separated from Kate and Michael on the boar hunt.  The only other time we see him actually encounter the monster is in "Exodus," the season finale.  First when he tells Hurley to hold still and let the monster chase Kate, Arzt, Jack, and Rousseau, and second, when he gets his ass dragged through the woods and halfway down the rabbit hole.

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^Yeah, that sounds more like it. I thought that ZombieJesus said Locke actually saw the Smoke Monster, meaning the viewer would have seen it also. That's why I got kinda confused.

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No, they haven't shown the monster like that before.

 

Originally posted by DrThunder88: He might see it in "Walkabout" when he's separated from Kate and Michael on the boar hunt.

Yeah, I guess you're right. It has been a while since I have seen this, but I did remember that he had seen it. And while might not have said anything about it directly, I did have the impresssion that he had met it and wasn't afraid of it.

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I'm sure he's talking about when the smoke monster tried to pull Locke down the hole. Which I see you've all explained already. Screw reading previous posts!

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Yeah, that part I remember. Thanks for the clarification. I can't wait for tomorrow's episode.

I also can't find any "Lost" shirts. The ABC website has some, but don't have sizes that will accommodate fat people. Their largest size is L (large). What the fuck? They got a fat guy on the show (Hurley) and they don't even have an XL (extra large) or even a XXL (extra extra large)? Discrimination!

But in either case, I got a respectable shirt from cafepress.com. Not as good as an official one, but still good nonetheless.


^Like I said, not all fancy, but still pretty good. (At least for me.)

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But would Hurley wear a shirt like that?  I think not!

[Reply #496 on:]

But it could be fun to watch him do so.

Maybe he would start to run around like Homer on fire. 

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^lol, I would love to see that.

Referring to tonight's episode, I hope that Michael didn't hurt Locke too much. I realize he misses his son, but putting himself in danger won't help anything. Then again, I'm not in his position (and I hope I will never be in his situation), so I guess I can't really understand what he is feeling.

And where's Desmond? I know I already asked this before, but now I'm getting kind of curious. And anyone else notice Ana Lucia wasn't even shown on last week's episode? (Unless of course she was shown only briefly and I didn't notice.)

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I'm gonna make a cafepress store selling:

I'm too fat for
<h2>OFFICIAL
LOST
MERCHANDISE</h2>

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^Yes! Finally some recognition.

[Reply #500 on:]

Ana was in S02E10!
Sun and Jin give her a fishie at the end.

Now I too want to know where the HELL Desmond went to.

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I watched 5 mins of Lost at work today. I was really bored with it. What is the deal with all the black people in the jungle and the cheesey smoke monster? I don't get it.

[Reply #502 on:]

This episode was cool, but for some reason it wasn't as good as it usually is.

Score: 8.2/10

Non-Spoiler Comments: Sawyer had some good lines, and the flashbacks with Jack also (as flashbacks usually do) made the current events tie in nicely.

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-Loved Sawyer's Mr. Clean comments. Also loved the "That's my favorite leaf" line. He is definetely my favorite character. I hope he gets another episode soon, because the other characters got many as well.

-I really didn't like the fact the Locke kept calling Sawyer by his real name. (lol, mostly beacuse of the fact that I'm used to him being called Sawyer.)

-As soon as I saw Jack's wife "go to the gym", I knew she was cheating on him. I really didn't think that relationship would last anyway.

-I seriously hope that Walt isn't used as some kind of "supernatural" weapon or whatever. If anything like that happens, the show will go down in quality for me. (Maybe not for other people, but for me definately.)

-An army? Yeah, we'll see how that works out.

-Finally, *"this side of the line is our turf"? What the fuck? It's a goddamned island. But there is the "freaky" aspect of it, but still.

*=I paraphrased that quotation.

-Next week's episode looks cool, but for some reason I feel that it will be of the same quality as this week's episode, if not a bit worse. I just hope I am wrong in that.

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Desmond and Rousseau are both currently M.I.A. Although I'm sure one or the other will pop up before this season comes to a close. IMO, it's going to be Desmond, possibly being found dead, that appears next. He doesn't seem like the survivalist type.

As for tonight's episode, I like where they're going. I know a lot of internet fans are upset with this season not "revealing" anything (even though they've revealed quite a lot) and the focus on the "Tailies." I predict that the conflict between the Others and the survivors will come to an end in the season finale, with deaths on both sides. After that, it'll be back to exploring the island and the Dharma Initiative.

Ana-Lucia's going to serve her purpose, as the writers claimed she would. While we still don't have a lot of reason to care for her (damn Jack-centric flashbacks!), I think eventually she'll become an important character. Remember, we're only on the 11th episode of a 22 episode run. Give the show time.

[Reply #504 on:]

Has it only been 11 episodes? I feel as if more has passed.

[Reply #505 on:]

Remember there was a six week dryspell.

My guess on the next appearance of Desmond or Rousseau: Rousseau will appear and attempt to eat Claire's baby.  She's French, after all.

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Nice work, Kate.  Never trust a father-murdering, jurisdiction-hopping, toy airplane-seeking woman to do a platoon of Army Rangers' job.  If she learned anything from the season opener it should've been "never become a human shield for a gun-wielding, unshaven, island dweller."

Okay, Zeke is pissing me off.  Not only is his hygiene seriously lacking, his "house" metaphor is fundamentally flawed.  If I were Jack, I'd be all, "Yeah, but if a guest did that in my house, I'd show him the way out, not kidnap his buddies and sink his boat."  I might also tack "Biotch!" to the end of that statement just to throw him off guard.

Ah ha!  So that's where Jack's wife went: Philanderville (or possibly Philandelphia).  Of course it might turn out that she does die some time before the divorce, making Jack a sad and moody widower instead of a bitter and (for lack of better word) pissy-faced divorcé.

Hurley and Libby?  Sexy.  Of course, in the previews for next week he asks her if he knows her from somewhere.  Wouldn't it be a huge coincidence if she was a psychologist from the mental hospital Hurley had checked into?  It'd be a huge coincidence anywhere else but the Island of Mystery.  On the IoM, it's pretty standard fare.  After all, Hurley owns Locke's box company in Tustin.  Biotch!

Once again, Vincent appears in an episode where evil befalls someone.  Is anyone else seeing the connection?  See, if JJ Abrams wanted it to be obvious, Vincent would've been a cat (inherently evil) or just given Vincent shifty eyes (implicitly evil), but he's playing that close to the vest.

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ok, i saw the first few episodes of 'Lost' when it premiered, now I just saw the newest 2. anyone care to do a paragraoh summary of season 1, or is that just a stupid question? why was that guy (the one who kinda looks like seann william scott) raising that other girl's baby? and how did the hot asian dude and the rest (minus the boy) get back to the island from that raft? and how was michael's (i think that's his name) son communicating with him via the computer, and why were the people objecting to him leaving to search for his son, other than he could bring back murderous warlords and overtake the rest of the people who survived the crash or some nonsense...

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Answers:
1. Yes.  Stupid question.
2. Charlie (or "Chahley" if you're Australian) has issues with wanting to take care of people.  He's taken quite a fancy to Claire (the baby's mother) and has been playing dad since Aaron (the baby) was born.  After all, if you pretend you're a baby's dad, you're, in effect, pretending you've slep with the baby's mom.
3. The backstroke.
4. First part: at this point, we assume magic.  Second part: he's heading straight into Othersburgh by way of Smokemonsterville.

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another question: what was that black smoke thing that came out and made animal growling noises and approached echo in the foresty area? was that the soul of that priest or something. i dunno i missed the first minute or so back from commercial.

ok then, just give me a summary of what happened to the asian dude

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It's increasingly likely that the Black Smoke is the "security system" Rosseau mentioned midway through season 1. We can guess that it's what killed the pilot as well as ripped down the trees in the first episode. What *exactly* it is, we don't know yet.

Jin, the Korean guy, wanted to go help the hunting party find Michael. Even though the two hated each other early in the show, eventually they formed an odd type of friendship. Jin was just looking out for his friend. His wife, Sun, told Jin not to go with the party, because she feared losing him again. He agreed.

 

Originally posted by DrThunder88:

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Once again, Vincent appears in an episode where evil befalls someone.  Is anyone else seeing the connection?  See, if JJ Abrams wanted it to be obvious, Vincent would've been a cat (inherently evil) or just given Vincent shifty eyes (implicitly evil), but he's playing that close to the vest.

Perhaps you should check out Late Night With Conan O'Brien and the character of the "evil puppy." I believe that dog grows up to be Vincent.

BTW, is that Other actually called "Zeke"? What a stupid inbred name for an island primitive. Although it may be short for Ezekial, which is yet another religious reference in the show.

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Originally posted by JDB:
Here's some pictures of when "The Smoke Monster goes through Eko:
 www.lost.cubit.net/pics/2x10/

Are those ones with the pic in them just edited in or are they actual frames made brighter to reveal pics inside?

I liked last nights ep, what with giving the boat guy some more airtime.

Scenes from the next episode!:

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Charlie goes crazy and sets Claires baby out to sea in a basket!!!

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Originally posted by evan:
BTW, is that Other actually called "Zeke"? What a stupid inbred name for an island primitive. Although it may be short for Ezekial, which is yet another religious reference in the show.

According to the Lost episode recaps on MSNBC's website, that's just Sawyer's clever nickname for the character otherwise known as the "Sea Captain". I hope his actual name really turns out to be Sea Captain, or maybe C. Captain. tee hee.

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So the smoke meets Eko. Images from his past flash in the smoke (cool trick, by the way). People speculate that the monster is "reading" him and decides that he's "good". But what if the smoke was SHOWING him the images. What if the smoke is communicating with him, possibly even brainwashing him. I mean, can we assume that Eko can see the images in the smoke? If the images were just for the smoke's benefit, then it wouldn't need to visualize them. (In the same way that you can't see what I'm thinking)

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Originally posted by VelourFog:
According to the Lost episode recaps on MSNBC's website, that's just Sawyer's clever nickname for the character otherwise known as the "Sea Captain". I hope his actual name really turns out to be Sea Captain, or maybe C. Captain. tee hee.

Oh great, now the island is going to fill up with other minor Simpsons characters: Bumblebee Man, Squeaky-voiced teen, Comic book store guy, etc.  We'll know the show's in trouble if this season ends with "Who Shot Mr. Eko?" and it ends up being Aaron.

VF, are you undressing me with your mind?

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Originally posted by VelourFog:
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I mean, can we assume that Eko can see the images in the smoke? If the images were just for the smoke's benefit, then it wouldn't need to visualize them.

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It doesn't matter if Eko saw the images like we did, but by showing these images we know that there might have been some interaction/communication between the monster and Mr. Eko.

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Besides, I have some diffculties believing that the thing which killed the pilot in the pilot and that what we get to see in the previous epsiode are the same. The characteristics don't seem to match. What I', trying to say is that I start to believe that there might be two kinds of creatures out there.

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Originally posted by GreyThinkyWhale:
 

Originally posted by JDB:
Here's some pictures of when "The Smoke Monster goes through Eko:
 www.lost.cubit.net/pics/2x10/

Are those ones with the pic in them just edited in or are they actual frames made brighter to reveal pics inside?

They are real framegrabs. I don't know what's been done with them. They are definetly not photoshopped or anything.

[Reply #515 on:]

I had my doubts at first as well, but since I have watched Fight Club several times, I do now think that these images were not photoshopped.   

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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
VF, are you undressing me with your mind?

Do you want me to post some screengrabs?

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Just had a frame-by-frame look myself, there's definately something there.

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That house analogy Zeke had was totally bogus, where does their plane crashing into their house and them not wanting to be in the house in the first place, fit in!?
Stupid Zeke! Get a haircut! You suck! Wash your puss!

It will be interesting to see where they go with this army business.

Also, stupid Sarah, Jack should have let her die or be a vegatable or whatever! He should have a "Undo-surgery remote control" that kerplodes her spine! Mwahaha.

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Did "Zeke" have a Luger? Where would he get a luger?

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Originally posted by Wooter:

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Did "Zeke" have a Luger? Where would he get a luger?

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1. Yes.
2. It's simple.
Luger=Nazi, Nazi=Evil. Others=Evil, Evil=Nazis.

There, now everything is clear. The island is actually the secret hideout of Adolf Hitler and his followers and the Others are all Nazis...in disguise! 

Either that or the show's armorer or somebody else thought that it would be a nice idea. Who knows? Given the fact that they don't seem to care about continuity when it comes to guns on the show, I wouldn't think too much about this. Seriously.