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ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #120 on: 03-13-2005 03:22 »

I want something high quality and original for a change, not just the same recycled material over and over. It's a wonder the entertainment industry even needs writers.
RavenStar

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« Reply #121 on: 03-13-2005 04:13 »
« Last Edit on: 03-13-2005 04:13 »

You're shooting yourself in the foot:

1) We haven't even seen this new series yet, so it's way too early to judge it;
 
2) You're saying you want something high quality and original, then you insist they redo the classic Looney Toons series with just new characters - which isn't an original idea, it's just the same recyling of material you're talking about - just with a different paint job. Redoing the classic show with just new characters would be more of an insult to the classics than everyone's whining "Loonatics" is gonna be. Plain and simple, the classics should be left alone. You can start bitching about originality and quality if "Loonatics" airs and turns out to absolutely suck.

ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #122 on: 03-13-2005 14:32 »

I didn't say number 2. on that list.
Venus

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« Reply #123 on: 03-13-2005 14:45 »

Ravenstar, i think what he meant was they should do the Loonatics series with all new characters that don't relate to Loony toons in any way. He didn't say they should remake the original loony toons.
Jeremy

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« Reply #124 on: 03-13-2005 15:50 »

Kids these days don't like the same wussy cartoons you guys grew up with. No big deal. If they want Bugs Bunny to be a ninja/vampire/serial killer, let them have it.
VelourFog

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« Reply #125 on: 03-13-2005 16:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Jeremy:
Kids these days don't like the same wussy cartoons you guys grew up with. No big deal. If they want Bugs Bunny to be a ninja/vampire/serial killer, let them have it.
You're talking to people on a cartoon message board, some of whom have been known to dress up like cartoon characters, draw cartoon characters, write stories and poems about cartoon characters...


Venus

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« Reply #126 on: 03-13-2005 16:19 »

I don't think i would mind so much if Bugs was a Vampire Serial Killer. Blood spatter makes everything cool. Take CSI for example. It's a science show, but you don't notice causa all the blood. If my teacher had used blood spatter in his lesson plan i might not have failed Latin.

Go evil Bugs of bloody doom! Wooooo!
Futurama Nerd

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« Reply #127 on: 03-13-2005 16:42 »

CSI is awesome.

I really don't care what they do to the Looney Tunes. I didn't really watch it growing up. The Muppets were better.
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #128 on: 03-13-2005 16:56 »

I wasn't around to see it's prime, but I did grow up on them, and the fact that producers are freeloading off of old cartoons is awful. Not specifically because I feel it's sacriledge to mess with Looney Tunes, but because they can't think of something on their own. If your going to make an abomination, make it an original abomination and move on and leave all the old stuff behind.
RavenStar

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« Reply #129 on: 03-13-2005 19:47 »

But how do you know if it's an abomination? The preview showed about 1 second of actual footage. I wouldn't even have called "Eurotrip" an abomination if I'd only seen 1 second of it.

And do note that I grew up watching the classics, too. I can see where some people are seriously angered by the news of "Loonatics." I was highly skeptical of the news concerning the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles show. But I didn't immediately scream "this is gonna suck!" before I'd seen any decent-length amount of footage. Once I did - and heard that blasphemous murder of the theme song - I knew that was gonna be crapshit. Until there's enough solid evidence that "Loonatics" is gonna suck, I will remain skeptical yet optimistic about it.
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #130 on: 03-13-2005 19:52 »
« Last Edit on: 03-13-2005 19:52 »

Wooo! I'm with RavenStar.

Afterall, I'm certain there were doubts about Stargate SG-1, before it went supernova.

*fingers crossed
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #131 on: 03-13-2005 19:55 »

Alright, I can't say that the show itself will suck, but the concept sucks. I have already gathered my opinion about originality without seeing this. I want to see less remakes of things I already like.

I will give it a chance and watch the premier, and gather my opinion from that. If it ends up being good, I will admit it. Until then I will remain skeptical and pessimestic of this show.
RavenStar

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« Reply #132 on: 03-13-2005 20:12 »

For all you naysayers, despite my stance on the show, this is quite funny:

 http://www.sumiarasu.com/imageboard/src/1110684502240.swf
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #133 on: 03-13-2005 20:21 »

That was hillarious! You should put some kind warning on that first, it's not work safe.
John Pannozzi

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« Reply #134 on: 03-14-2005 21:13 »

Here's a great parody drawing by Matt Hunter (note: in order to get the joke you have to have seen the 1953 short subject "Duck Amuck" ) http://toolooney.goldenagecartoons.com/images/duckrevenge.jpg

Here are some ideas for fake promos for Loonitics (please check out Woulfe's very MST3K'ed promo)  http://forums.goldenagecartoons.com/showthread.php?t=1957
RavenStar

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« Reply #135 on: 04-27-2005 23:54 »

all you people bitching and whining, read this:
 http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/27/cartoon.controversy.ap/index.html

No, it's not scrapped, but the designs are going to be made "softer and less menacing."

Which in my opinion is a ridiculous wimp-out on the creator's parts.

Like the dude who does the voice of Porky Pig and Tweety Bird said in the article, "The kids who are going to be seeing this are not as versed in classic Looney Tunes as these fans are"..."Let the target audience be the judge."
evan

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« Reply #136 on: 04-28-2005 02:18 »

WB Studio Exec: We're giving our demographic all the action, style, and suspense that they want! This crappily-animated bad idea will delight kids across the country! All children will love the Loonatics!
Kid: But that idea sucks.
WB Studio Exec: Whaddya know? Just because you're our target audience and you think it sucks doesn't mean it sucks.
Kid: Yes, that's exactly what it means.
RavenStar

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« Reply #137 on: 04-28-2005 03:22 »

evan, three words: "Back In Action."
leelaholic

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« Reply #138 on: 04-30-2005 17:04 »

I'm glad they're making the show into less of a bastarization, but they should've just scrapped this idea entirely. No amount of redesigning, or action, or some other third thing can make this into any more than what it's bound to be: a painful mess which WB should be shot for.
starone

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« Reply #139 on: 04-30-2005 20:53 »

Well at least they'll look less stupid.
RavenStar

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« Reply #140 on: 04-30-2005 21:04 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
I'm glad they're making the show into less of a bastarization, but they should've just scrapped this idea entirely. No amount of redesigning, or action, or some other third thing can make this into any more than what it's bound to be: a painful mess which WB should be shot for.

 
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Originally posted by RavenStar:
three words: "Back In Action."


Venus

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« Reply #141 on: 04-30-2005 21:08 »

Yes yes, Back in Action sucked you made your point. Just becuase they bastardized it twice (Space Jam still makes my brain bleed) doesn't mean they should keep doing it.
leelaholic

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« Reply #142 on: 05-01-2005 13:54 »
« Last Edit on: 05-01-2005 13:54 »

Well, at least "Back in Action" gave the classics a shred of dignity. It did suck, there's no denying that, but "Loonatics" is just a complete rape of anything "Looney Tunes" ever was and likely ever will be. What a stain.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #143 on: 05-01-2005 14:17 »

Agreed. Space Jam and Back in Action both didn't completely change the characters. They kept the same characters with the same attitudes and such. This, however, is worse. They are completely changing the characters and their attitudes. If they want to do something new, do this: a)Don't give the show a name like "Loonatics" it sounds not so action/anime; b)Make up new names rather than using names that look and sound like those of the original characters.
RavenStar

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« Reply #144 on: 06-06-2005 13:50 »
« Last Edit on: 06-06-2005 13:50 »

...and thanks to morons who protested, now the designs look seriously anime:




NY Times takes a re-look at it:
  http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/06/arts/television/06loon.html 

Excerpt 1:
   
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"Loonatics Unleashed," which is part of the Kids' WB fall schedule, is a comedy adventure set in the year 2772. The series finds the Earth flung off its axis and protected by six superheroes, the Loonatics. The team comprises Ace Bunny (Charlie Schlatter), Danger Duck (James Marsden), Spaz B. Wilde and Tech E. Coyote (Kevin Michael Richardson), Rev Runner (Rob Paulsen) and Lexi Bunny (Jessica DiCicco). Warner Brothers Animation and Kids' WB are scheduled to announce the names of the characters and the voice cast today.

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In a preview provided by the studio, the animation in "Loonatics Unleashed" was like that of other WB series like "The Batman" or "Teen Titans," inspired by anime with a technolike soundtrack and bright, kinetic displays of action. That similarity is intentional, executives said. Ms. McGowen said the show was designed for children who have grown up on anime and to fit into the Kids' WB schedule, where it will be shown alongside "The Batman," "Pokémon," and "Xiaolin Showdown," among others.

Ms. McGowen and Mr. Schwartz said the Loonatics have tested favorably with focus groups of the intended audience, children ages 6 to 11. The series's initial plans called for 26 half-hour episodes, spread over two seasons. Each episode will have an "A" and "B" story with "ample opportunity for comedic pauses," said Mr. Schwartz.

Still sounds hopeful to me, but I liked the original designs better.

EDIT: more news:

 http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=3843

 
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Warner Bros. has released new concept art for its controversial Loonatics series. The new artwork keeps the color schemes for the characters but discards the angular and slightly menacing look for something that has a bit more anime styling to it. Additionally, the network seems to be making it clear that the series is "inspired by" the classic cartoons and that the characters are descendants -- not reworked versions of the originals -- presumably due to the protest of the character's styles. Additionally, as noted before, the name of Buzz Bunny has been changed to Ace Bunny, due to the name "Buzz Bunny" already being used for a decidedly maturely rated product. As stated in the Loonatics press release, the characters get their powers from "cosmic dust".

The voice cast and lineup for the series has also been announced, featuring veteran US voice actors for the main roles and a healthy dose of guest stars that range from stage and screen actors (Tim Curry, Vivica A. Fox, Michael Clarke Duncan, and Florence Henderson) to industry veterans (Tom Kenny and Phil LaMarr)

The Loonatics, along with the characters that inspired them, are as follows:

Ace Bunny (ancestor: Bugs Bunny/voice: Charlie Schlatter): quick witted leader who has martial arts and "laser-lock vision"

Lexi Bunny (ancestor: Lola Bunny/voice: Jessica DiCicco): Second in command who can blast things with her mind and has hyper hearing.

Danger Duck (ancestor: Daffy Duck/voice: Jason Marsdsen): arrogant duck who resents Ace and wants to lead the team: can teleport and toss "magical energy spheres".

Spaz B. Wilde (ancestor: Tasmanian Devil/voice: Kevin Michael Richardson): The destruction expert who can destroy things with deadly tornadoes and super strength.

Rev Runner (ancestor: Road Runner/voice: Rob Paulsen): A super fast talker who has embedded GPS technology and the ability to race at superspeeds.

Tech E. Coyote (ancestor: Wile E. Coyote/voice: Kevin Michael Richardson): Supergenius who is the team's gadget guru. Also has regenerative abilities, electromagnetic powers, and "mechanical mastery".

Zadavia (voice: Candi Milo): the mentor of the Loonatics who sends them out on missions.

Loonatics will premiere this fall on Kids WB.

ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #145 on: 06-06-2005 20:16 »

Unless it's a parody of the more batman-like shows such as teen titans, it seems too serious.
TheGlob

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« Reply #146 on: 06-06-2005 22:10 »

Stupidedst thing ever




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IamBender

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« Reply #147 on: 06-06-2005 22:36 »

well, id give them a chance. If the storylines are interesting along with a bit of comedy, maybe it wont be so bad. Just dont try to picture the old cartoons when watching.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #148 on: 06-06-2005 22:43 »
« Last Edit on: 06-06-2005 22:43 »

   
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
Well, at least "Back in Action" gave the classics a shred of dignity. It did suck, there's no denying that, but "Loonatics" is just a complete rape of anything "Looney Tunes" ever was and likely ever will be. What a stain.

Not in my opinion. See I grew up watching all the old Looney Tunes and stuff and I'll be honest, I thought Space Jam was a cool movie. But I saw it while changing planes at the DFW airport (I was flying solo) and it was completely lame. And Back in Action, come on! I was totally shocked when I saw Steve Martin in that preview. It scared the shit out of me as bad as watching Jamie Lee Curtis die in Halloween Ressurection.

I don't know what the point of Loonatics is about but I feel bad that big TV companies have to revamp a series of cartoon characters that we all have seen and know and that they're "improving" them. It's dare I say it, dispickable!

EDIT: Sorry thought I was done. I've gone through all the pages and read about all the posts. And I think that VF, Newhook, Venus, Otis, and other people have made very defensing responses. Especially Otis. He said that if we grew up with this back in our day than why can't kids today? I mean I'm only 12, and I loved watching those old Looney Toons. They were fun to watch. And the fact that they're classics makes them more cooler.

Also I forget who said this but they said that the characters looked evil and menacing and listening to "Buzz" go "What's up doc?" was just freaky. This I totally agree on. I watched that clip too and I cringed. It bothered me.

Also, we live in a world with such creative people. They come up with creative and UNIQUE things like, giving old classic cartoons superpowers and making them look evil, and the names! Oh I bow down to whoever came up with,

Duck
Roadster
Slick.

Duck especially. I mean the whole point of Daffy was for him to be the understudy but that is just plain mean! Lexi, is a cool name. It's "hip" and "futuristic" and after the show airs, "creepy".

I mean I'm comparing their future with Futurama's future. And let me say, Holy shit, what's the difference? I mean did that city look any different from any other comic-made-to-TV show city? Nah. They're horrifying.

And the thing with Lola/Lexi, every superhero team needs a woman in their. Invisble Woman, Wonder Woman, Raven and Starfire even. And Lola is the only main view Looney Toon that was ever acknowledged. Though she was only in Space Jam and Baby Looney Toons.

I don't know younger kids so I wouldn't know what they'd like. I mean if they think that watching Bugs Bunny's grandson who has superpowers, will hog the show, and has a creepy menacing field to him, by all means.

Also, Raven, honey, love how you're the only defender. I mean I defend stuff that I think will be good but this I don't. So sorry you're stuck on this alone but still.

And has anyone actually repeating the title's name? Loon-a-tics. Doesn't just that make you question the show? Anyone?   confused

P. S. Hoorah that the coyote is the smart one. Dog's are the brains of the future. (In my mind).
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #149 on: 06-07-2005 00:14 »
« Last Edit on: 06-07-2005 00:14 »

What's everyones deal with Space Jam? I thought it was a pretty good movie when I was little.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #150 on: 06-07-2005 00:34 »

And now? What do you think of Space Jam now?
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #151 on: 06-07-2005 01:00 »

Hmm...still lame.  I'm not going to get all worked up about it anymore, it just looks horrifically generic and stupid.  Maybe the little 12 year olds that are just growing out of Pokemon (not you Spacedal, I count you as about 15 or 16, maturity-wise) will enjoy it when they haven't seen the 178 other shows on WB and Fox after school blocks that are just like it.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #152 on: 06-07-2005 01:05 »
« Last Edit on: 06-07-2005 01:05 »

   
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Originally posted by Nerd-o-rama:
Hmm...still lame.  I'm not going to get all worked up about it anymore, it just looks horrifically generic and stupid.  Maybe the little 12 year olds that are just growing out of Pokemon (not you Spacedal, I count you as about 15 or 16, maturity-wise) will enjoy it when they haven't seen the 178 other shows on WB and Fox after school blocks that are just like it.

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Wooter

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« Reply #153 on: 06-07-2005 01:12 »
« Last Edit on: 06-07-2005 01:12 »

Wait, you're 12? I thought for sure you were at least 14.

[edit]Jesus tapdancing Crist, what is wrong with my spelling lately?[/edit]
Spacedal11

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« Reply #154 on: 06-07-2005 01:14 »

Yuppers. The reason why I'm Spacedal11 is because I was 11 when I joined PEEL. If anything, I'll be 13 in Dec.
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #155 on: 06-07-2005 12:30 »

I still thought it was alright movie when I saw it again last year. I couldn't sit through it all, but...yeah. Oh well, it's not made for someone my age.
John Pannozzi

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« Reply #156 on: 06-24-2005 17:16 »

Here's a parody of the newer designs (and also of upcoming merchandise in which Tweety is now a girl!): http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/243842
Spacedal11

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« Reply #157 on: 06-26-2005 00:44 »

That last part scared the fuck out of me. I mean with the chainsaws. And now my paranoia is going to seep through. I didn't actually know there was a difference except that they have normal eyes.
boingo2000

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« Reply #158 on: 06-30-2005 18:22 »

 
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Originally posted by John Pannozzi:
Here's a parody of the newer designs (and also of upcoming merchandise in which Tweety is now a girl!): http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/243842

Eh, the first one was better.  Warning: Not Suitable For Work, or anywhere else anyone easily offfended may hear!
RS 2thou

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« Reply #159 on: 07-02-2005 10:35 »

Thats just freaky
I got the Looney Tune- Back In Action 2 disc DVD set. On the second disc theres five new Looney Tune cartoons (based on the classic style) there is one short called "Duck Dodgers and attack of the drones" and at the start Zoidberg is sitting on chair on the right hand side of the screen, and because Billy West did a Voice(s) on it, Zoidberg sounds no different
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