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KurtPikachu2001

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« on: 02-14-2005 18:02 »

Anyone seen those old Batman shows with Adam West?  Or saw The Green Hornet?  I used to watch both shows out of boredom when they were on FX ten years ago.  Both shows are excellent, even nowadays.  But sadly, Batman only lasted three seasons, and The Green Hornet only had 26 episodes.  Both shows had a lot of humor and camp quility.  Batman was more humorous especially the silly villains they used to fight such as The Joker, Penguin, and The Riddler.  While the Green Hornet focused more on organized crime, and of course that show had it's funny moments, too! 

The fight scenes of both shows were great!  Funny catchphrases such as Robin saying "Holy" whatever.  You saw famous actors in both shows like karate great Bruce Lee, Caeser Romaro, and Burgess Meredith.
Even Batgirl was cool as well.  So, anyone watched or seen these shows?
laroquettespine

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« Reply #1 on: 02-14-2005 18:52 »

I watched "Batman" religiously when I was about five years old (which is, I believe, its target audience).  But that was in the mid-70's, when the show was still relatively new (well, less than a decade old, anyway).

It was years later that I found out that the show was made deliberately campy; that disillusioned me a little.  I never watched "The Green Hornet", just because it wasn't shown in syndication in my area.  I wouldn't mind checking it out sometime if I thought the Bruce Lee scenes were worth watching (but I'm pretty sure they were watered-down for 60's audiences).

A decent (if brief) parody of the old "Batman" series can be found in the fourth season of "Mr. Show", in the episode "It's Insane, This Guy's Taint".

Remember, too, that the New Justice Team fight sequence was a direct tribute (homage, ripoff, whatever) to the "Batman" fight scenes.  I was particularly amused when Fry hits a yak, and the sound effect is "YAK!".
Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #2 on: 02-14-2005 19:18 »

I hated it as a kid because it was so different from the tim burton movies and the animated series which i was a huge fan of, but i saw a couple of episodes recently and they were actually pretty funny. 
Ranadok

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« Reply #3 on: 02-14-2005 19:42 »

The movie from the Batman series (the one where all the big villans team up and evaporate the UN) is still the best Batman movie ever. I have it on DVD, and it has surprisingly good special features for a bargain bin DVD (commentary with West and Ward, featurette on the Batmobile, and some other stuff I can't remember).
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #4 on: 02-14-2005 19:50 »
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I used to watch Batman all the time.  I didn't care much for The Green Hornet except for the theme song.

I used to sing the Batman theme song all the time.  It's amazing how 1960's Batman has made an impact on pop culture.  The Powerpuff Girls were inspired by Batman.  If you notice the opening sequence it is very similar to the old Batman opening sequence.

In an episode of Kim Possible, The Fearless Ferret, it had the most Batman references that I could remember.  It even had references from the cartoon Batman Beyond.  Will Friedle who voices Ron, also did the voice of Terry McGuinness, Bruce Wayne's protege and successor in a future Gotham City in WB's "Batman Beyond".  Which in the episode Ron becomes Mr. North protege. Ron becomes The Fearless Ferret while Rufus became the Wonder Weasel.  Ron parodies the Bat jet from 1989 movie with the Ferret Jet flying around the moon.

Adam West played the voice of Timonthy North. There was the Ferret Hole, the whole sliding poles and how to open the secret door.  They made fun of all the things Batman did, scaling a building and made fun of the opening sequence.  The POW! and such. The episode featured a lousy villain, White Strip, a guy in a skunk costume.  Mr. North offered Kim a costume to dress up like Ferret Girl, but she refused.

There was a line that Mr. North mentioned that he bum is leg. According to a 2003 A&E Biography episode, Adam West did in fact suffer a permanent leg injury. Unlike North who got it while being dragged kicking and screaming off the set, West got his from a post-series "Batman Stunt Show" during the early 1970's.  The episode pretty much did every reference I like about the old Batman series.
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #5 on: 02-15-2005 02:09 »

Honestly, yes, I did watch quite a few batman episodes back in the 80's.  I can even remember Burt Ward tied to a giant matress that he was being sewn into by a giant needle and thread as one of the cliffhangers. 

The real Batman that made a mark on me though was Batman the Animated series.  I've bought both available box sets and have been watching them frequently.  I love you, Harley.

still I can honestly say that I have seen Many many different Batman incarnations and every one is different, from the campy, but enjoyable Adam west series, the violent, dreamlike Tim Burton films, the Joel Shumaker wide-screen burger-king cups, the traditional action comics and the deco-noir animated series.  Every one presents a differnet batman, but each a believable and well cut artform that casts a different light on revenge and justice in the heart of one passionalte man.[/sentimental _garbage]

Green hornet?  I have nothing to say.
Mr Fuzzywuvems

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« Reply #6 on: 02-15-2005 09:16 »

Well said Pitt. I'd say the best incarnation of Batman is in the Frank Miller comics with the Animated Series a close second.

The only thing i know about the Green Hornet is that Kevin Smith is either directing or producing a movie version.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #7 on: 02-15-2005 11:26 »

Fun fact: the Green Hornet is the great nephew of the Lone Ranger.
David A

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« Reply #8 on: 02-15-2005 14:25 »
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Fun fact #2: The character of Barbara Gordon (a.k.a. Batgirl) was created for the television series, and was later written into the comics.

 
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Originally posted by Ranadok:
The movie from the Batman series (the one where all the big villans team up and evaporate the UN) is still the best Batman movie ever.

Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb!
laroquettespine

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« Reply #9 on: 02-15-2005 16:38 »

More trivia:  when Burt Ward found out he had the part, he and his wife spent their last 25 cents on some chicken wings to celebrate.
mint

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« Reply #10 on: 02-15-2005 18:12 »
« Last Edit on: 02-15-2005 18:12 »

   
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Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001:The fight scenes of both shows were great! Funny catchphrases such as Robin saying "Holy" whatever. You saw famous actors in both shows like karate great Bruce Lee, Caeser Romaro, and Burgess Meredith.
Even Batgirl was cool as well. So, anyone watched or seen these shows?


I don’t mean to be a pain but Bruce Lee was a Kung Fu Master/Legend (Since he died young all people who dies young all becomes legends apparently for some reason). He did not practice karate but kung Fu/Wu Kung. I saw his interview and screen test in Hollywood on my digital TV before.


David A

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« Reply #11 on: 02-15-2005 23:53 »

Bruce Lee was a master of a variety of martial arts.  He eventually created his own martial arts style, Jeet Kune Do.

Kato, the fictional character portrayed by Lee, used Karate.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #12 on: 02-16-2005 11:25 »

Adam West ones are classics to watch, and always a laugh.

'I managed to defeat him with this water engorged sponge, old chum'.
mint

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« Reply #13 on: 02-16-2005 13:02 »
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Originally posted by David A
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Bruce Lee was a master of a variety of martial arts. He eventually created his own martial arts style, Jeet Kune Do.
Kato, the fictional character portrayed by Lee, used Karate.

I see, so he had played a Japanese character before? Hmmm interesting, do you mind give me the name of the movie and the year the movie was made? I wish to take a look…Well if what you said was true his Karate practices should be something he did less frequently than Kung Fu. This is because Kung Fu movies are what Bruce Lee is known for not Karate.

Bruce Lee is an American born Chinese, who went back to Hong Kong to pursue a career in the movies. Martial art style Hong Kong movies would, in most cases be about Kung Fu because Kung Fu is Chinese martial art where as Karate is Japanese martial art. Highly unlikely the Chinese would spend most of their investment making other people’s martial art popular and exports to the west!

He got famous over there in HK then he returned to the U.S. to study. Later he went into Hollywood started his acting career specializing in Kung Fu. As Kung Fu and Karate are both martial arts I suppose he could have expanded his interest and learnt Japanese style martial art as well. Anyway as Chinese and Japanese are both yellow skin Oriental Asians in the movie they can play each other.

In a movie I saw called ‘Joy Luck club’, portraying 4 Chinese women’s lives, not all of the women who played the roles were Chinese. They used Vietnamese and Japanese in there to play some of the Chinese characters.
newhook_1

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« Reply #14 on: 02-16-2005 13:20 »
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If you like Bruce Lee so much, why don't you just marry him?
David A

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« Reply #15 on: 02-16-2005 15:36 »

 
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Originally posted by mint:
   I see, so he had played a Japanese character before? Hmmm interesting, do you mind give me the name of the movie and the year the movie was made? I wish to take a look…

Um, Kato is the name of the character that he played on The Green Hornet.  I don't know of any other Japanese characters played by Lee.

 
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Well if what you said was true his Karate practices should be something he did less frequently than Kung Fu. This is because Kung Fu movies are what Bruce Lee is known for not Karate.

Bruce Lee is an American born Chinese, who went back to Hong Kong to pursue a career in the movies. Martial art style Hong Kong movies would, in most cases be about Kung Fu because Kung Fu is Chinese martial art where as Karate is Japanese martial art. Highly unlikely the Chinese would spend most of their investment making other people’s martial art popular and exports to the west!

He got famous over there in HK then he returned to the U.S. to study. Later he went into Hollywood started his acting career specializing in Kung Fu. As Kung Fu and Karate are both martial arts I suppose he could have expanded his interest and learnt Japanese style martial art as well.

As I said, Lee mastered a number of different martial arts.  Karate was merely one of these.

 
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Anyway as Chinese and Japanese are both yellow skin Oriental Asians in the movie they can play each other.

In a movie I saw called ‘Joy Luck club’, portraying 4 Chinese women’s lives, not all of the women who played the roles were Chinese. They used Vietnamese and Japanese in there to play some of the Chinese characters.

Bruce Lee used to joke that he got the role of Kato because he was the only Asian actor who could properly pronounce the name Britt Reid.

 
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Originally posted by newhook_1:
If you like Bruce Lee so much, why don't you just marry him?

She'll need a shovel for that.   no no
newhook_1

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« Reply #16 on: 02-16-2005 18:41 »
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Oh yeah, well, your mom!
*Runs away*

I like the old Batman series, but I think it's only because of the camp value. Let's face it, it wasn't exactly masterful story telling. Still, it was probably one of the if not the best attempt to get a super hero live action on TV. At least it's watchable, you get a chuckle, and it had a decent fight scene every now and then(the huge one in the episode where penguin ran for mayor of gothem city comes to mind).
mint

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« Reply #17 on: 02-16-2005 19:02 »
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If you like Bruce Lee so much, why don't you just marry him?

What makes you think I like him so much? Anyway as David said he had been dead for years. I made some comments about Bruce is because I reckon he should be remembered as a kung Fu master not a karate master since he was Chinese and had played many Kung Fu related roles in Hong Kong cinema of his time. He also had starred in Hollywood films. People often seem to get the two confused.

newhook_1

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« Reply #18 on: 02-16-2005 19:25 »
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Chill, I was only kidding.    tongue

There's nothing wrong with being a fan of someone, and I know he's dead. It was supposed to sound stupid and immature.
mint

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« Reply #19 on: 02-16-2005 19:53 »

That's cool!  tongue
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