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bart182

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« Reply #40 on: 12-08-2001 17:22 »

the 3 best movies ever made are anime
Cowboy bebop knockin on heavens door
akira
princess mononoke

normal movies cant even live up to the quality of the above movies.


Anime is great, you just need to filter out the crap like you do with music and normal tv.  I dont know why everyone just "hates anime!"

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« Reply #41 on: 12-09-2001 04:28 »

I don't think people hate anime, just that a certain person seemed to mention it in every post when he first came here, that got very annoying very fast. I think I saw Akira on TV ages ago before I'd even heard the term anime, it was pretty cool, if weird.
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« Reply #42 on: 12-09-2001 04:31 »

 
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the Reason People are sore about Anime is that trashy show Like Pokemon.That was the first Anime to grace the UK..when DBZ Came out i thanked the gods there was an COOL Anime.Pokemon has scared many People its there fault People Think Anime is so crap.

You are crazy. Pokemon is at the very least funny in a cute goofy kiddie japanese way. Dragonball Z is just stupid. If all "real" anime is like that, then count me out.

rach_the_tall

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« Reply #43 on: 12-09-2001 09:25 »

Agreed. I used to find pokemon amusing, because of the characters and their ego problems and hangups.
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« Reply #44 on: 12-09-2001 23:13 »

DBZ is fun when you just wanna turn your brain off completely and watch the pretty colors. Cowboy Bebop is more of a thinking man's anime.

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« Reply #45 on: 12-10-2001 08:00 »

DBZ is too 80's.
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« Reply #46 on: 12-10-2001 08:29 »

 
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Originally posted by bart182:
the 3 best movies ever made are anime
Cowboy bebop knockin on heavens door
akira
princess mononoke

normal movies cant even live up to the quality of the above movies.


Anime is great, you just need to filter out the crap like you do with music and normal tv.  I dont know why everyone just "hates anime!"

I have seen both Akira and Princess Mononoke. They were both crap. A "forest spirit"? Holy pigs and wolves? It doesn't make any sense. For some reason it's reminding me of crazy hippies...

[Hippie]Look at the colors! These will go great with my soul![/Hippie]

Stupid superstitious Japanese cartoonists! Give me some good ol' American scifi!

         
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« Reply #47 on: 12-10-2001 10:42 »

 
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Originally posted by rach_the_tall:
DBZ is too 80's.

I agree. Look at their clothes! Bulma's mother's hair is all poofy, and all the normal girls are wearing those leg warmers.
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« Reply #48 on: 12-10-2001 11:00 »

 
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I have seen both Akira and Princess Mononoke. They were both crap. A "forest spirit"? Holy pigs and wolves? It doesn't make any sense. For some reason it's reminding me of crazy hippies...

It does nothing classic mythology doesn't do. Do you think the Minotaur is a stupid idea? What about cowardly lions and witches with red shoes? I bet you don't dig on the flying in kung-fu movies either.

Japanese and Chinese movie-making has, naturally, evolved in a different way to european and US cinema, giving it it's own conventions. Those of you with the more closed minds should go back and reappraise it after western moviemakers have finished raping it senseless and bastardizing it's ideas, and then you'll understand. Either that or you'll still diss it for being 'cheap-looking' and having 'weird' storylines. ignorant fools.
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« Reply #49 on: 12-10-2001 15:27 »

Yeah, so far as I can tell, lots of people's problems with anime comes from their lack of appreciation of Japanese culture and themes. I mean, in Japan cartoons are a respected media just like any other, instead of being only for comedy as it is in the US. If you got over the idea that it's a cartoon taken seriously, not just for jokes, and realized how many "weird" things are related to Japanese culture and mythology, you might appreciate it more. Basically, I'm telling some of you to grow up and quit being so westernized.

Obviously not everyone's going to like anime, and that's fine. But disliking it just because it's not a direct product of your culture and you're ignorant regarding its source, is pretty dumb in my humble opinion.

Like if an African tribesman called science fiction stupid after watching 6 minutes of Star Wars Episode One.
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« Reply #50 on: 12-10-2001 16:06 »

What is this, do 80% of PEEL suddenly like anime now?
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« Reply #51 on: 12-10-2001 16:50 »

What is this, do you finally realize you are all but alone in your hate?
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« Reply #52 on: 12-10-2001 17:53 »

Nah...
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« Reply #53 on: 12-10-2001 18:03 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
What is this, do 80% of PEEL suddenly like anime now?

This is what I was talking about when I started the thread Otis, Nobody really hates any particular form of entertainment, just the people who go nuts over it.

Anime is actually watchable, having seen a little more of it in the past few days I can see how people actually do find themselves sitting down in front of the TV to immerse them selves in the product of another culture for a few minutes.

Part of what I am saying is that you should be a little more broadminded, part of what I am saying is that just because certain fanatical viewpoints have been imposed upon you doesn't mean that you have to look upon all Eastern and Oriental TV as pure drivel.

I mean, East is East was a foriegn culture film, and I liked it.  Live and let live.

I think that maybe we all ought to be a little more tolerant of other cultures. This by no means is an excuse for the Lunatic Fringe (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE) to ram Anime and other things down our throats.

Having said that, I still think that quite a lot of Anime doesn't make much sense from a purely Western point of view, and you have to try and understand some of the more esotric references through research. I can safely say that I will not be watching any more Anime or researching into it for a couple of months!   tongue

The last paragraph written with Tongue firmly placed into my Cheek   big grin
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rach_the_tall

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« Reply #54 on: 12-10-2001 21:33 »

Exactly.
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« Reply #55 on: 12-10-2001 21:34 »

Right on.
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« Reply #56 on: 12-10-2001 22:45 »

Word.
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« Reply #57 on: 12-10-2001 23:17 »

[Zoidberg]What's this?  A voice of reason?[/Zoidberg]
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« Reply #58 on: 12-11-2001 02:08 »

nah, a guinea pig just tricked you into liking anime...
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« Reply #59 on: 12-11-2001 13:20 »

Rock on, totalnerd! Rock on!

Also props go to The Mad Capper.
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« Reply #60 on: 12-11-2001 13:52 »

Point taken, I like to imerse my self in other cultures entertainment like Futurama for example. I'm English so I guess it is kind of.
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« Reply #61 on: 12-11-2001 14:07 »

England is a part of the western world, so far as I can tell.
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« Reply #62 on: 12-11-2001 16:07 »

Wouldn't know it the amount of stuff that Europe gets before us. Although, that is beginning to change. (Mainly due to the influx of illegal smuggled goods through Newcastle).  tongue
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« Reply #63 on: 12-11-2001 17:06 »

Hail Comrade Totalnerduk
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« Reply #64 on: 12-11-2001 17:10 »

Uh-Oh
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« Reply #65 on: 12-11-2001 18:06 »
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He seems to think you're siding with him.  I think he missed this part:

 
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This by no means is an excuse for the Lunatic Fringe (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE) to ram Anime and other things down our throats.
rach_the_tall

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« Reply #66 on: 12-12-2001 21:21 »

I don't think he actually read the post... He just jumped on the bandwagon.
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« Reply #67 on: 12-13-2001 03:58 »
« Last Edit on: 12-13-2001 03:58 by Nixorbo »

DING
And what has Rach won?

It was a[/i] JOKE!!!!

Anyways I REALLY wish I could afford Cowboy Bebop

WAAAAAAHHHHH IM SO POOR!!!
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« Reply #68 on: 12-13-2001 17:54 »
« Last Edit on: 12-13-2001 17:54 by Nixorbo »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:

It was a[/i] JOKE!!!!


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« Reply #69 on: 01-22-2002 16:31 »
« Last Edit on: 01-22-2002 16:31 »

   Hate to reopen this argument but some dude pointed me in this direction so blame him and not me. I have seen a few anime it's not like I'm dissing it without seeing anything. I have seen Sailor moon the American dubbed version and the original undubbed Japanese movie version, I have seen pokemon, digimon, dragon ball Z, Princess Monenoke, Totoro, kiki's delivery service, and a handful of anime that's been on Cartoon Central and I have found all of it to be crap. Visually as well as plot wise. Kiki was ok, the plot was actually cute but on a visual standpoint it still made me want to gouge my eyes out and after sitting through an hour of princess monenoke i wanted to throw myself through a plate glass window. (The only reason i saw it in the theater was because Gillian Anderson was the voice of that wolf/god thing) And although I was entertained by her...and those little white things that spun their heads around (i want one!)i was bored almost to tears with every other aspect of it and its not something I would ever see again.
   So Japan came up with it to help themselves out of an economic decline, I can understand that and sympathize, but did they have to make it so icky looking? The characters, especially the girls are way to disproportionate. The heads are to big the breasts are to big the waists are to narrow, the legs are too long. if they were actual people I doubt they'd be able to walk upright and the way they make expressions is scary. They get nervous and suddenly a lime sized sweat drop is balanced on their heads? What the heck? In Sailor moon and DBZ the characters strike weird poses at unusual moments, in kiki people started laughing spontaneously for no reason, not normal laughing but head back stomach shaking full out guffaws...over nothing. It greatly confuses me because obviously i'm missing some great cosmic joke.
   In short I just want someone to explain the great attraction because I have looked and I cannot find it at all.
   And what i also want to know is why do most Anime fans get so bent out of shape and insulted when someone disses anime? They throw little hissyfits which dosn't help their case any. Back when i ate drank and peed X-Files whenever someone told me they thought it sucked my answer was always something along the lines of "And this concerns me....how?" Unlike a lot of people i can accept that not everyone likes what i like and i could really care less about it. There. Now my rant is complete! Tada! The end! Move along there's no more to see here.....::waves::
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« Reply #70 on: 01-22-2002 16:46 »

Could you paragraph it please Venus?
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« Reply #71 on: 01-22-2002 16:47 »

That wasn't really a rant; it was a reasoned argument about why you personally don't like the genre. I can't see anybody taking offence; different people like different things, you just explained why you personally don't like anime.

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« Reply #72 on: 01-22-2002 16:51 »
« Last Edit on: 01-22-2002 16:51 by totalnerduk »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
 Hate to reopen this argument but some dude pointed me in this direction so blame him and not me.

I did. Don't go pointing fingers, I just thought that a lively debate might entertain us all, and that Venus may even change her mind.

If someone has a good reason for liking anime, then now would be a good time to share it with all.

Although, as far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't miss it if it died, but don't mind it and find some of it entertaining.

This does not mean that I find it erotic, like some of you anime/hentai nuts out there.

So come on guys, if you too are partial to the occasional oddball goofy anime that's totally off the wall and swarming with magic robots, tell poor 'ol Venus why.

All you anime nuts, word your posts carefully, or you could put her off anime even further.

All you who agree with Venus, add an amusing smiley to the end of your post to prove that you have a sense of humour and tolerance   big grin
 tongue

Open the floodgates!   roll eyes

Edit: Oh, and Nurdy, Otis, please refrain from an all out war this time  tongue!

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« Reply #73 on: 01-22-2002 16:54 »

I agree with almost everything Venus said. I pretty much don't like Anime because I just don't get it. It's not going to disappear in the near future, so I'll just ignore it, until it goes away.
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« Reply #74 on: 01-22-2002 17:20 »

i attempted to paragraph it. sorry i didn't to begin with it just never occurred to me. My English teacher would kill me if she saw..
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« Reply #75 on: 01-22-2002 21:26 »

 
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   And what i also want to know is why do most Anime fans get so bent out of shape and insulted when someone disses anime

I'm still waiting for any sort of answer to this question.

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« Reply #76 on: 01-22-2002 23:16 »

Because nobody ever has a good reason to dislike anime. "I don't like the eyes" or "the plots are lame" are crappy excuses. And when people hate anime it always makes you think what their favorite form of animation IS then (it usually is a crapy one like Hanna Barbera or cheap saturday morning stuff, not bad shows but the animation is poor)
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« Reply #77 on: 01-22-2002 23:29 »

Binder, do you hate anything?  if so, please explain the reasons that you find acceptable to dislike something, anything
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« Reply #78 on: 01-23-2002 00:28 »

Explain to me how Hanna-Barbara cartoons are any worse than anime.  Without using "I don't like the animation" or "the plots are lame."
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« Reply #79 on: 01-23-2002 00:46 »
« Last Edit on: 01-23-2002 00:46 »

1.The Plots are so goddamn Predictable (See Scooby-Doo for info_)
2.The Coulours are so..bright..I think the Artists where high in the makeing of it
3.You can tell that the Sceney and Music is being Reused
4.The Jokes are funny as haveing a tooth yanked out

And Venus Anime is MADE To be Funny...well..except a couple of *cough*Exceptions

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