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MattOSX

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« on: 01-01-2005 21:27 »

I just learned that the main characters salary is $250,000 per episode, for six hours work. The showing is sucking and they get more.....

As the end is near (maybe a year or two) what will replace the Simpsons? Im thinking, unfortunately that Simpsons-clone - Family Guy. Though in the illogical part of my mind, I would hope that Fox would atleast experiment with the eight o'clock time slot and maybe retry Futurama for a while.

Though it looks like we shall get more of the same when the Simpsons finally retire with Family Guy. As Fry said,

"You see? TV audiences don't want anything original. They wanna see the same thing they've seen a thousand times before."
Jaffas85
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« Reply #1 on: 01-01-2005 21:39 »

Matt Groening has recently signed the cast to a deal for making episodes to season 19 and he said that he wants to do just one more season after that so season 20 will be the last in 2009.

Source: http://www.sky.com/showbiz/article/0,,50001-1154053,00.html

P.S. Does anyone know what coerced Maggie Roswell to return to the cast?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #2 on: 01-01-2005 21:42 »
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At this point its possible for The Simpsons to go to season twenty (or beyond?  But I think they'll voluntarily stop it after 20 if it even goes that long), and thus, it actually could theoretically outlast the "Family Guy" comeback anyway, depending on how long they keep that going.  EDIT: Though, by the way, I should point out that that article above is misleading.  Fox did presumably extend the contract with the voice actors to season 18 (19 might be a stretch, I'm not sure if that's true) I think, but that's purely on an "if" basis; meaning, if they decide to go that far at all.  Its just securing the cast just in case.

However, depending on how the comeback goes (and how well FG establishes itself in whatever slot it gets) I guess it could take that slot.  If "Arrested Development" picks up enough and lasts long enough I guess it could go there too.  I'd say "American Dad" was a possibility but to be honest I think its going to get cancelled pretty quickly.

Other then that, I really have no idea....there really is no predicting when The Simpsons will end and there isn't even really an ending in sight yet.  All I can say is that the day The Simpsons ends is the day I quit watching Fox (unless Futurama makes a comeback, but at this point I really doubt that, at least as a tv show).
Jaffas85
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« Reply #3 on: 01-01-2005 21:47 »

Matt Groening said in that above article link I posted that he wants Season 20 to be the last season.
MattOSX

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« Reply #4 on: 01-01-2005 21:55 »

Twenty years! Ack! I cant take it anymore!
Local Jerseyan

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« Reply #5 on: 01-01-2005 22:20 »

This should really belong in the TV section, right?

Well, since Sunday's a family night, I say more Malcolm in the Middle till you puke it out your eyes. Or something. I work Sunday nights anyway.
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #6 on: 01-01-2005 22:58 »

^Yeah, it should go in the TV Section. And I doubt FOX will bring 'Futurama' back. As time goes on, and with the new shows they keep airing, the chances get slimmer and slimmer.

But if 'Family Guy' does well, then it will probably take that timeslot.
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #7 on: 01-02-2005 01:41 »

It's a shame that Family Guy could be taking the Simpsons slot.  Don't get me wrong, I like FG, but it's not anything really new.  Futurama would be so much better for the spot, or at least something new and original.  Like Matt Groening said about Futurama: "It's just like the Simpsons (was)* - new and original." 

*I added that to show my own opinion.**

**This footnote is here purely to annoy Tongue Luck.***

***So is this one.
David A

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« Reply #8 on: 01-02-2005 14:27 »

What will replace The Simpsons?  That's like asking what will replace Sienfeld on Thursday nights at nine o'clock.  Last time I checked, NBC was still trying to answer that one.  However, if you're asking what Fox will put in the eight o'clock timeslot when The Simpsons finally ends...

First of all, Futurama is not coming back.  If you think that it is, you need to wake up and smell whatever it is you're shoveling.

Second, Family Guy will be cancelled again long before The Simpsons ends.  I give it another season or two, tops.

If The Simpsons ended today, Arrested Development might get the timeslot, but who knows if it will still be on in a few years?  Malcolm in the Middle is another likely possibility.

Personally, I'd love to see King of the Hill get the timeslot, just to piss off anyone who still thinks that King of the Hill somehow got Futurama cancelled, or that Fox gave King of the Hill preferential treatment.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #9 on: 01-02-2005 16:12 »

Yeah, I feel bad for KOTH, because now they're in Futurama's dead-end timeslot. I feel pity for anyone with that accursed timeslot.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #10 on: 01-02-2005 16:45 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 Malcolm in the Middle is another likely possibility.


I think that show's going to die pretty soon, so probably not.  Its lasted longer then I thought it would (two or three years ago I would have thought it'd be over by now) but I still think that next season is going to be its last.  If anything The Simpsons should outlast it.  In a way its kind of amusing that Simpsons has outlasted so many of the shows that were more or less commisioned as potential replacements, even the more successful ones.

evan

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« Reply #11 on: 01-02-2005 16:49 »

I think this thread is a moot point.  By the time "The Simpsons" goes off the air in a few years, there'll be another new hit comedy that none of us could have predicted. 

I doubt "Malcolm in the Middle" or "King of the Hill" have much life left in them.  Both shows are old and lack the strong fanbase that "The Simpsons" has.  "Arrested Development" is another good show, but with its track record, I doubt it'll last 3 more seasons -- which is a shame, btw.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #12 on: 01-02-2005 17:43 »

What about Matt Groening's next show?...
David A

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« Reply #13 on: 01-02-2005 17:50 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
 I think that show's going to die pretty soon, so probably not.  Its lasted longer then I thought it would (two or three years ago I would have thought it'd be over by now) but I still think that next season is going to be its last.

If you say so.  Anyway, I was thinking more along the lines of if The Simpsons was ending now.  Evan's right; by the time The Simpsons goes off the air, there will be shows that we haven't seen yet, and the shows that are on now may all be off the air.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #14 on: 01-03-2005 07:54 »

But even a new show does replace it then it'll probably just last a few years and then they'll repeat it. Maybe they won't replace it, they'll just Re-Run The Simpsons.
newhook_1

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« Reply #15 on: 01-03-2005 11:55 »
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I think family Guy may have a shot. It seems like its popularity has exploded over the last year. Seriously, I live in a shit spit province off the coast of Canada, and I get it on 4 different channels, not counting FOX where it will come on when the new season starts. Not only that, but I also see Family Guy t-shirts everywhere, and where once you'd hear highschool students quoting  the Simpsons, you hear them quoting Family Guy. Everything hinges on season 4, though. If season 4 comes off well, Family Guy has the potential to become the next Simpsons from a business standpoint, if it crashes and burns it has the potential to become the next cancelled show on FOX's long list.
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #16 on: 01-03-2005 16:52 »

 
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Originally posted by MattOSX:
"You see? TV audiences don't want anything original. They wanna see the same thing they've seen a thousand times before."

Bender-Whats you talkin' bout Fry?
bender+fry

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« Reply #17 on: 01-03-2005 17:07 »

TV.

Personally, I hope that Arrested Development gets the spot. It is quite hard to find an original new look of a topic that's been done to death, but AD does a great job at it. The shows funny, but at the same time smart, and it would be a worthy replacement.
Yuki_in_space

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« Reply #18 on: 01-05-2005 01:46 »

AD will have been cancelled by then. They'll fill the Simpsons timeslot with live televised executions of people who voted Democratic.
starone

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« Reply #19 on: 01-06-2005 11:34 »
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
What about Matt Groening's next show?...

Futurama was Matt's next show and you see what's happened to that. So many people have the Simpsons on their mind that they won't accept another non-Simpsons show from him unless it was a spin-off.

And I think fox it trying to phase out all animated programs that arn't the Simpsons so it won't have any competition from other animated shows.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #20 on: 01-06-2005 14:17 »

He's still got other shows up his sleeve, but hopefully he won't waste them on Fox. The problem is, other networks might not be able to afford them. Then we'd get that scenario you just described...
winna

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« Reply #21 on: 01-06-2005 14:26 »

His next cartoon doesn't have to be super fancy like Futurama was.  If they had to, his next show would get budgeted, but I'm not quite sure if he'll actually come out with another show.  And everything about Family Guy is correct; it has the potential to keep exploding in popularity, or drop like a lead balloon.  We'll see whenever it comes back (what is that date again?).
DotheBartman

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« Reply #22 on: 01-06-2005 17:23 »
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Originally posted by starone:
   Futurama was Matt's next show and you see what's happened to that. So many people have the Simpsons on their mind that they won't accept another non-Simpsons show from him unless it was a spin-off.

Well, to be honest, Futurama had other "problems" (in relation to audience acceptance) that would have hurt its chances even if people didn't associate it with The Simpsons.

 
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And I think fox it trying to phase out all animated programs that arn't the Simpsons so it won't have any competition from other animated shows.

They aren't.  While KOTH is slowly dying, they're bringing back Family Guy and premiering American Dad next month.  If anything, I think they'd rather use The Simpsons to help launch other successful animated shows if they can.  For that matter they've also been attempting to groom potential "replacements" for The Simpsons for years (with varried success, though The Simpsons itself has persevered to the point that even those successes are being consistantly outlasted by it).

And Otis: Unfortunately I think he'd be stuck with Fox.  As Matt himself as noted, none of the major networks aside from Fox would ever air The Simpsons (or something with its style and sensibilities).  I guess that leaves cable, but assuming he wanted to stick to animation and production procedures similar to his two shows so far he'd obviously run into budget problems.

Jaffas85
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« Reply #23 on: 01-07-2005 00:08 »

What other 'problems' are you saying that Futurama had??
DotheBartman

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« Reply #24 on: 01-08-2005 03:02 »

For the most part its not problems from my own opinion for the most part, but more just from the standpoint of your usual viewer.  Most people simply couldn't relate to the characters and the setting in the same way they related to "The Simpsons" when it first started.  For that matter I do think Futurama established its emotional edge too late (season three), whereas if they had really nailed that angle of it earlier on more people might've given it a chance.  Plus there's just the fact that its a sci-fi show, which doesn't bug me but does tend to turn off a lot of people for whatever reason.
Jicannon

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« Reply #25 on: 01-08-2005 03:14 »

Family Guy is nothing like the Simpsons IMO
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