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Spy

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« Reply #360 on: 09-26-2005 22:08 »

 
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Originally posted by starone:
I'm sorry but I think Family Guy is overrated and dosen't deserve alot of the praise it gets. The show is just a poorly written bunch of fart/sex jokes and pop-culture references with the "plot" only acting as filler inbetween (in addition to very insincere attepts at heart in some of them) with feeble attempts at satire and pathetic attempts to be controversial and offensive.

I also think the creator, Seth MacFarlane is a talentless hack that can't write good or intelligent comedy and has to overuse the fart/sex jokes and pop-culture refernces to cover it up.

It used to be awesome. Now it sucks and don't bag Seth AD kicks ass.
starone

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« Reply #361 on: 09-26-2005 22:46 »

 
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Then please fuck off out of this thread!   love

This thread is about Family Guy. I can post here as long as the topic is about Family Guy.
Beamer

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« Reply #362 on: 09-26-2005 23:03 »

Yes, but it's mainly a thread for people who like the show to talk about it and review the new episodes. If you don't like it, and only post about your hatred towards the show - people aren't listen to you. On topic or not, individual show threads are really just for fans of the show. Hell, I don't go into the thread for every show I hate and just complain about them.
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« Reply #363 on: 09-26-2005 23:19 »

 
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Originally posted by starone:
I'm sorry but I think Family Guy is overrated and dosen't deserve alot of the praise it gets. The show is just a poorly written bunch of fart/sex jokes and pop-culture references with the "plot" only acting as filler inbetween (in addition to very insincere attepts at heart in some of them) with feeble attempts at satire and pathetic attempts to be controversial and offensive.

I also think the creator, Seth MacFarlane is a talentless hack that can't write good or intelligent comedy and has to overuse the fart/sex jokes and pop-culture refernces to cover it up.

No matter where you are, no matter what you do, your arguments hold no water unless you provide examples to back them up. You'd do well to remember that, as would many.

starone

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« Reply #364 on: 09-26-2005 23:56 »

 
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Originally posted by Beamer:
Yes, but it's mainly a thread for people who like the show to talk about it and review the new episodes. If you don't like it, and only post about your hatred towards the show - people aren't listen to you. On topic or not, individual show threads are really just for fans of the show. Hell, I don't go into the thread for every show I hate and just complain about them.

Beamer, I could care less if people listen to me or not. I just want to post my opinions on the show.

Ben

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« Reply #365 on: 09-27-2005 10:25 »

Good for you, champ.
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« Reply #366 on: 09-27-2005 16:52 »

I think that's starone's mom.
Kryten

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« Reply #367 on: 09-27-2005 18:07 »

 
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Originally posted by newhook_1:
 No matter where you are, no matter what you do, your arguments hold no water unless you provide examples to back them up. You'd do well to remember that, as would many.


Backup? Okay.

REASONS WHY FAMILY GUY 2.0 SUCKS

a) The "cutaway" jokes go on too long. For example, the caveman argument in last Sunday's episode.

b) Overusing the cameos. Ollie Williams was funny ONCE. Greased-up Deaf Guy was funny ONCE. Creepy Old Man was funny, I'unno, a couple of times. Sticking them into every episode just means you have no ideas.

c) Character assassination. Lois, the moral center of the show, have lost pretty much every shred of character she ever had. Brian's become a closet racist. Stewie's pretty much become an endless "gay baby" joke. And Meg seems to exist for no reason other than to be the butt of every insult. Yeah, The Simpsons has been doing the same to its characters... and y'know what? It took them 10 seasons to do it. Family Guy took FOUR.

What did it for me? The vomit scene. It was just... vomiting. For three minutes. That's not funny. It's not even EDGY. It's just LAZY.

American Dad OWNS Family Guy lately. You know why? Because Family Guy no longer bothers to try.
newhook_1

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« Reply #368 on: 09-27-2005 18:13 »
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I actually agree with your first two points. I wouldn't say it sucks just yet, but it's gone downhill without a doubt. American Dad has become the better show.

My post before was refering to the pointlessness of "I hate X." posts.
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #369 on: 09-27-2005 19:48 »

I watched the family guy movie today. It was ok. It was better that than the new Family Guy episodes but not as good as the old ones. It had some funny parts. B
Jeremy

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« Reply #370 on: 09-27-2005 20:27 »

That's a good thing about the cutaways being ridiculously long. It makes it funnier.
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« Reply #371 on: 09-27-2005 21:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
What did it for me? The vomit scene. It was just... vomiting. For three minutes. That's not funny. It's not even EDGY. It's just LAZY.

Hahaha! That was hilarious!
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« Reply #372 on: 09-27-2005 21:46 »

I don't think the new Family Guy episodes are THAT bad (though I haven't seen Breaking Out is Hard to Do or any episode following that), though I definitely agree that American Dad is the better show now, and the writers for FG are really beginning to run out of ideas. What made Family Guy so great was its unexpected randomness. It's not random if it's the same old crap over and over again - it's just lazy writing. All Family Guy really has to offer is its humour, without that, it's got nothing. I'm hoping it's just a dry spell in the writing and the show will pick up soon... Hell, I never expected the show to be brilliant with its return - it's had a few good episodes, but for each good one, there's 2 average ones.
Kryten

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« Reply #373 on: 09-27-2005 23:17 »

 
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Originally posted by Jeremy:
That's a good thing about the cutaways being ridiculously long. It makes it funnier.

No, it makes them take up more time so they don't have to write as many jokes.

THAT'S why it's bad.
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« Reply #374 on: 09-27-2005 23:34 »

It depends on the cut-away, honestly, but I do see where Kryten is going with it. I remember the argument concerning "the rake scene" in the Simpsons, where Sideshow Bob keeps accidentally stepping on rakes for a good 30 seconds. There is a point where drawing a joke out becomes funny, then stops being funny, then becomes funny again.

Family Guy doesn't know when to stop, though. Some of the jokes deserve to be drawn out (the Will Ferral/"Bewitched" bit), but others are just examples of lazy writing. I sense that the writers really aren't good at filling up the 22 minutes of show, so they have to pull the Chicken out again, or whatever. I'd rather there be five good jokes in a minute instead of one super-long stretched out joke. If they didn't use drawn-out jokes all the time, perhaps we wouldn't be having this argument. However, it seems like that's the crutch FG uses.
Spy

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« Reply #375 on: 09-30-2005 04:30 »

Well on the No homers club people dispise Family Guy. I was wondering if there are many fans of it on this board. Obviously they'd hate it because they are Simpsons fans who think it's a copy.
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« Reply #376 on: 10-03-2005 04:35 »

Got around to picking up the Family Guy DVD, and I found it absolutely hilarious. Definitely some of the best humor that show has produced...
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« Reply #377 on: 10-03-2005 21:48 »

So the new DVD is much better than the recent episodes?  (The recent eps have left me a little disappointed.)  I'd assume not having to kowtow to the network censors would be a plus.
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« Reply #378 on: 10-04-2005 05:03 »

In the commentary they say the dvd is made up of 3 eps from this season, I guess. And they comment on which scenes won't make it to air. So supposedly these eps will be on tv? I fucking hope not...
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« Reply #379 on: 10-04-2005 05:44 »

They won't be - if they were, they'd have aired by now. It was originally supposed to be a 3-parter in Season 4 (to air half-way through the season), but instead became the movie, with filler at the beginning, middle and end. Why would they air these episodes as part of the show's line-up a season late, especially when they're trying to back money by having the footage exclusive to DVD?
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« Reply #380 on: 10-04-2005 13:44 »

I imagine it will be on TV at some point, regardless if it's supposed to be DVD exclusive. The real question is how long until the movie or separate episodes show up on FOX and/or ADULT SWIM?
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« Reply #381 on: 10-04-2005 17:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
 No, it makes them take up more time so they don't have to write as many jokes.

THAT'S why it's bad.

While it does mean less writing, it can still be hilarious. Remember the season 3 ep where Peter bangs his knee. Tell me that would have been just as hilarious had it not been dragged out super long.

I got V1 fully loaded, I watched a bit of commentary and was relieved to know that I'm not the only one who, during the intro, interprates "laugh & cry" as "F-ing cry".
Kryten

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« Reply #382 on: 10-05-2005 20:26 »

 
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Originally posted by GreyThinkyWhale:
 While it does mean less writing, it can still be hilarious. Remember the season 3 ep where Peter bangs his knee. Tell me that would have been just as hilarious had it not been dragged out super long.



No, THAT was funny because it's HAPPENED to me, and I could relate. I've never, however, flown 3000 miles to punch out Will Ferrell.
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« Reply #383 on: 10-05-2005 21:56 »

That Peter-knee joke was in Season 2, and it's funny because he keeps trying to get attention just for hurting his knee, like a little kid would. Classic Peter.  smile
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« Reply #384 on: 10-05-2005 22:00 »

@Kryten- the only reason the Will Ferrell thing was funny is because of how long it took to show Stewie making the trip. The Family Guy writers have the talent to take something that would otherwise not be funny and make it humorous just by dragging it out
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« Reply #385 on: 10-15-2005 23:57 »

I do agree that sometimes unrelated scenes last too long. When that happens, shows lose the audience. I still like Family Guy though. I don't think Family Guy is anything like The Simpsons. Maybe the idea was to attract people who like family type cartoons, perhaps even away from the Simpsons.
Spy

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« Reply #386 on: 10-16-2005 01:04 »

The Will Ferrell joke is a shitty long joke that doesn't even end with a funny punchline. The caveman joke didn't go anywhere either. Normally these jokes go somewhere or it's just a thing that is funny in repetition.
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« Reply #387 on: 10-17-2005 03:04 »

Just saw Stewie Griffin - The Untold Story. It was decent. Nothing brilliant, but consistent in the laugh department, and had plenty of good moments. The only downside is that there are WAY too many cameos from "should've-been-one-off" characters, and a few too many re-used jokes from other episodes. Also, you can tell where the three original episodes start and finish, and given that the sub-plots with the rest of the family only cover one original episode each and just sort of fizzle out afterwards (eg. Peter becoming a news reporter), the structure seems way off. I know it's pretty much to be expected, but still, you thought that if they were putting it together into a movie, they'd have fixed it up a bit more. Also, Peter farting was the worst possible way to end it, too. Still, those complaints aside, it was pretty good. Much better than the recent stuff Family Guy's been dishing out, that's for sure. It never promised to be anything other than a good laugh, and that's exactly what it was. Still, it would've been nice if it offered a little more, that's all.

B+
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« Reply #388 on: 10-18-2005 12:56 »

I was a little cheesed off by the Futurama comment and reaction in the beginng. Do you think it means anythinig?
mcl6525

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« Reply #389 on: 10-18-2005 15:51 »
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RE^^ no we already discussed that.

i changed the channel during the caveman cutaway. but i agreed with the will ferrall one, the joke in the movie was a piece of crap. im still happy, its the first fam. guy i saw since hurricane katrina.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #390 on: 10-18-2005 16:30 »

I watched some of the new Family Guy episodes with some friends.  And I think everyone who's mentioned that the cutaway gags are too long, and this thing about Stewie being gay has gone way too far.  It looks like Meg got bumped off, though. 

IMO, American Dad is better.  It doesn't go overboard with cutaway jokes, and it doesn't recycle the same gags (i.e. Stewie being gay), and doesn't focus only on one character.  Sure, it can be perverted as Family Guy, but not as bad. 
Spy

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« Reply #391 on: 10-19-2005 02:03 »

Good thing ad doesn't have flashbacks because they are certainly getting old.
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« Reply #392 on: 10-19-2005 04:02 »

News for the people in the UK. BBC2 will show Family Guy starting on Saturday 22 October at 10:05pm.

They are going to show season 3
Impossible

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« Reply #393 on: 10-19-2005 09:56 »
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I bet it'll still be censored at that hour.

They're showing American Dad before it too.
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« Reply #394 on: 10-19-2005 11:23 »

 
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I bet it'll still be censored at that hour.

They're showing American Dad before it too.

Ah that is good. unfortunately I won't be able to watch it because Robbie Williams concert is on the other side.


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« Reply #395 on: 10-19-2005 15:46 »

When did they say stewie is gay? thie only thing i remember about that is when he said we wishes he was gay so he woulnd have to deal with women.
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« Reply #396 on: 10-19-2005 21:09 »

 
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When did they say stewie is gay?

It's never specifically stated, but its implied
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« Reply #397 on: 10-19-2005 22:26 »

let me further expand... when he had his bout with lipstick in the mirror and something about selfrespect... when he makes jokes about male celebrities i.e. when he's on kids say the darndest things... all the time...
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« Reply #398 on: 10-21-2005 15:20 »
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ya, i realized it was in the old seasons but i was refering the new ones.

did anybody read the MAD magazine where they made fun of family guy i couldnt find it any where.
Spy

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« Reply #399 on: 10-21-2005 22:36 »

 
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let me further expand... when he had his bout with lipstick in the mirror and something about selfrespect... when he makes jokes about male celebrities i.e. when he's on kids say the darndest things... all the time...

He was even shown in a gay bar and a captain of a ship saying he can thrill a girl or two but he'd rather get it on with you meaning the sailors.
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