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Malachy

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« on: 11-20-2004 09:06 »

I just saw Kubrick's masterpiece for the first time last night. I think I got most of it, but I'm sure there were a few important symbols that just completely flew over my head.

So, what did you take from this film? Also, if somebody could explain it all to me so I know I'm not missing anything that would be great.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #1 on: 11-20-2004 09:10 »

Bah. Screw digging into themes and what not, I just enjoy the film for the surreal burst of hilarious violence that it is. Take THAT, Kubrick!

"Suddenly, I was struck by a burst of inspiration."

Also has one of my favouritest movie brawls ever.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #2 on: 11-20-2004 09:21 »

This should be a thread dedicated to all works of Kubrick's.
Tweek

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« Reply #3 on: 11-20-2004 09:58 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
This should be a thread dedicated to all works of Kubrick's.
I thought there was one already, but I couldn't find it  hmpf

I agree then, let this be a thread about all his films.

I've only seen A Clockwork Orange once, I really should watch it again as I have it on video and it is a great film.

mikey

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« Reply #4 on: 11-20-2004 11:01 »

'A bit of the old in and out?'

Seriousley awesome movie, sums kubrick up.
airbagfailure

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« Reply #5 on: 11-20-2004 11:02 »

I think the film made a good point about how not all situations are black and white...
 
couldn't help but love alex though he was heartless and cruel... so what kind of person does that make me?
hmm..
interesting point mr kubrick... i loved his works...specially full metal jacket and the shining..

i was lucky enough to have found an 'under the table' copy of a clockwork orange about 9 years ago when it was still banned here...so i have seen it countless times....
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #6 on: 11-20-2004 11:08 »
« Last Edit on: 11-20-2004 11:08 »

I always thought that Clockwork Orange was about how you can force someone to be obidient, but not 'good.' Fact is, though Alex led a pretty 'moral' life after his conditioning, he immediately snapped back to his old self once it was removed. He hadn't learned a thing.

You can't control human desire, fools! Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Okay, so perhaps I thought about it a little...


EDIT: Oh yeah, I love Full Metal Jacket, too.

2001, however, made the mistake of being so incredibly confusing that anyone who hadn't read the book had their heads explode by the end. Also, it seemed awfully fond of wasting the audiences time...   tongue
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #7 on: 11-20-2004 11:13 »

It's an ok flim and it's not the best Kubrick film. I think it's just a bit overrated. It just had the point in the flim that people never change, no matter what.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #8 on: 11-20-2004 11:19 »
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Actually, in the novel that the movie's based upon, there's a chapter at the end where an older and more benign Alex is looking back at his pased life (with some regret, I'm told. Yes, this is second had info). The movie kinda threw that out the window...
evan

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« Reply #9 on: 11-20-2004 14:50 »

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
Actually, in the novel that the movie's based upon, there's a chapter at the end where an older and more benign Alex is looking back at his pased life (with some regret, I'm told. Yes, this is second had info). The movie kinda through that out the window...

You're right.  When I read ACO for one of my lit. courses, the professor mentioned that some editions of the book have "Chapter 31," or whatever it's called.  I think Kubrick didn't film it because he felt it detracted from the movie.  I've read the chapter, and it isn't very good.  I like the 'film' version of the book, because the ending is more, um, open-ended.
boingo2000

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« Reply #10 on: 11-20-2004 14:54 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:I think Kubrick didn't film it because he felt it detracted from the movie.

What I've heard is that the last chapter was not included (for whatever reason) in the book's 1st American printing.  Kubrick was writing the screenplay based on the American version the studio had sent him, so he just never knew about the last chapter.
Malachy

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« Reply #11 on: 11-20-2004 14:58 »

It seems like the "Chapter 31" would complete the meaning...like without it says people can never change, but with it it says people can't change except on their own will.
Yuki_in_space

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« Reply #12 on: 11-20-2004 23:02 »

Burgess hates "A Clockwork Orange". He thinks people should pay more attention to the books he's written about Christopher Marlowe. One of my professors took a writing class taught by Burgess and said he only showed up to class twice and he was stinking drunk both times.
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