WWE- Where it all begins again

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I've yet to read anything about SD becoming WCW, but that wuld be pretty fitting given the strong ring work on both the top and bottom of the cards.

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The Big Show should win everything...   

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Hell, we knew that RVD would lose tonight.  If he's not released by the end of this week, he'll be forced into attending drug rehab and probably will have to job for a few months after his return as punishment.

The only reason that I can think of on why he won't be released is because he could be main eventing on TNA 60 days after his release.

Think of the 5-star matches that Christian could have with RVD...

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Let see about tonight.

Sandman hits another defenseless victim with his stick.  Are they ever going to have him in a real match?

It's great to see Test back.

RVD is a two time loser.  He had it all in WWE and made the mistake in trusting Heyman as well as doing drugs.  I'd hate to see RVD fired, I hope he does the rehab. 

Big Show has perhaps broken a record.  He's been WWE champion, WCW champion and now ECW champion.  Has anybody else done that?  The dudleys have held the tag team titles in all three companies which no other tag team has done.

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RVD has been suspended for 30 days and will have to attend drug conselling.  How that affects his push will be later determined.  RVD is popular with management and the locker room, so it's said that Vince McMahon is willing to give him another chance.

Sabu's fate is less certain.  He probably will be more stongly disciplined since he doesn't have the name power that RVD does.

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Jeez, drug conselling and a 30 day suspension for weed? That's a little harsh, isn't it? I figured taking the titles off him, and temporarily halting his push would be punishment enough. It's not like he was doing steroids or hard drugs or anything.

Sabu, who had the painkillers and pills, actually has a problem as opposed to a vice like RVD seems to have. I'm surprised he hasn't been sent to drug rehab yet.

fryfanSpyOrama: The reason I called you retarded is because you keep mixing kayfabe with backstage goings on to form your arguments and opinions of people. You just did it again when you were talking about RVD. Tackle them one at a time.

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I'm well aware of the difference between kayfabe and what goes on backstage and I haven't mixed them up in any of the two.  When I mean that RVD is a two time losers, I do imply the company made him lose both titles, even though I don't mention it.  I also wouldn't trust Heyman, because in any storyline, he'll turn on you eventually which they had him do to RVD.

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this spells heart break and disappointment to a wrestling fan. I've been rooting for RVD to win the world title for years and when it happens, he throws it all away. But come to think about it, has anyone seen the documentry "forever hardcore?" Drugs were all over ECW. So maybe it just falling back on old habits.

on another note, has anyone seen the new wwe magazine? they revamped it into a all aroung men's mag. it's pretty cool. also I got a 12 out of 15 on the hardcore quiz in it.

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Hogan is returning to WWE.  Obviously this will be the start of an Orton/Hogan feud at Summerslam.  That will be an unique match.  I'd rather have Rock vs. Orton and Hogan vs. Austin.  Are those dream matches ever going to happen?

[Reply #689 on:]

I'm still waiting for austin vs goldberg. also AJ and danieals vs hardy boyz. True dream matches seem to never happen. thus the term dream match.

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Ah, the not-so-long-ago good old days.

Scott Steiner cuts a complete shoot promo on Flair on WCW Nitro.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67KSJKM3OXA

All I ask is a promotion that's not run by a self-indulgent assclown with a small penis.

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Didn't Steiner get suspended for that shoot?  I thought that shoot was hilarious because everything he said about Ric Flair at that time was true.  I remember that night, but I remember not seeing Steiner for a long time after, about the time the New Blood was first formed.

Here's another shoot that I thought was great
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppETm6Sy07w

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Yeah, Scott got suspended not only for that, but he had a road rage incidnet where he drove he truck over a man directing traffic whre some road construction was being done.

The Steiners were nortorious for shooting and being stiff with newcomers, undercard guys and anybody they thought they could rough up (even giving Mick Foley potatoes).

They tried to play rough with Dick Murdoch and Dick Slater one night.  The Steiners got their asses handed to them so badly that they bailed out of the match and went back to the dressing room.  They never attempted shoots on Murdoch and Slater after that.

I never faced the Steiners, but I have been in the ring with both Murdoch (RIP) and Slater at different times - both were tough, ornery bastards that I wouldn't cross for any amount of money.

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Infamous match from Florida Championship Wrestling where Bruiser Brody won't sell and scares the shit out of Lex Luger. Luger climbs out of the cage and runs to the dressing room like a scared little girl.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsHwFyY3jrk

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I've gotta add this:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8TSCiiG3YQ&mode=related&search=Cornette

The only man in wrestling that I still respect and admire today.  Jimmy Cornette (we even share the same birthday)!

Vince, this is how a manager is suppose to act.

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Edit: Holy Christ!  YouTube has a load of Jim Cornette interviews.  This guy is better than I remember.

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Always liked Jim Cornette, can't get that damn TNA movie to work though. 

The shoot taken from The Monday Night War is excellent!

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For Melllvar and other fans:

TNA and Jim Cornette - awesome shit almost 12 minutes long:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8TSCiiG3YQ&mode=related&search=

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On ECW - Flair vs. TBS?  I'm as big a Flair mark as anybody - hell, I wrestled the guy several times in 1979 and 1980 - but there is no way in hell this match an be any good!

I love Flair and the angle between him and Foley is a worked shoot - the two legit hate each other.  Still, Mick's promo on Flair on RAW kicked Flair's ass.

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Awesome, finally saw that Cornette vid.  Cheers Ralph.  That's what we like to see in wrestling.

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OK, cleaning out my garage, I found some old (1985) tapes of WCCW - I'm transferring some of them to DVD and if I can figure out how to upload videos to YouTube, I'll have 2 Fabulous Freebird matches and 2 Michael Hayes matches on today.

There's also a young Jim Cornette with the original Midnight Express on this tape!

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I have not watched WWE for years now I heard that DX   has formed back. I was a huge fan of them back then

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Snart! Upload them, quick-smart! I'd love to see them..

Talking about finding old stuff.. I found my old "EC F'N W" t-shirt the other day. Awesome. But, it's too small for me now.. Still awesome nonetheless.

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Damn I bet my friend 30 bucks flair would beat the big show.It looked so certain

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Originally posted by Ralph Snart:
OK, cleaning out my garage, I found some old (1985) tapes of WCCW - I'm transferring some of them to DVD and if I can figure out how to upload videos to YouTube, I'll have 2 Fabulous Freebird matches and 2 Michael Hayes matches on today.

There's also a young Jim Cornette with the original Midnight Express on this tape!

Freebirds!  Yes!

If it has "Bad Street USA" on it, then it'll be the best tape ever.

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I liked the potential Big Show vs. The Great Khali this past Saturday Night Main Event.  It was a good show.  it sucks that Mark Henry was injured, now he won't be able to take on Batista.

More sad news.  Bob Orton Sr, (Randy's grandpa) passed away.  He was a few days shy from celebrating his 77th birthday.  Randy may be an asshole, but it's still sad.

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I never met Bob Sr, but I've been in the ring and in bars with Bob Jr.  Jr's a hell of a nice guy - great work ethic, fun to be around, etc.

Randy's a little punk bitch.  The only reason he has a job is because he has the type of body that Vince is a fag for.

Still, the family has my condolences about the pssing of Bob Sr.

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Sandman was in a wrestling match?  Wow, that is impressive. Due to the beer drinking, hitting himself with the can and hitting people from behind with that stick, I forgot he was a wrestler, too bad he lost.

Last night's main event was a waste of time when The Great Khali interfered.  I liked the match, but when Khali showed up I knew they both were going to injure the Undertaker to set him up for an even bigger underdog this Sunday.  As if it wasn't enough for the Undertaker to be an underdog in this match.

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For you Freebird fans.  UWF 1986.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAL7AshO11E&mode=related&search=


Flair/Funk feud starts - WrestleWAr '89.  Funk destroys Flair!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFN7XIdMjPo&mode=user&search

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here are the results for The Great American Bash.

Show spoiler

WWE Tag Team Champions Brian Kendrick & Paul London def. The Pitbulls
United States Champion Finlay def. William Regal
Cruiserweight Champion Gregory Helms def. Matt Hardy
Undertaker def. ECW Champion Big Show (Punjabi Prison Match)
Ashley def. Kristal, Michelle McCool and Jillian (Four Way Bra and Panties Match)
Mr. Kennedy def. Batista (DQ)
King Booker def. Rey Mysterio to become new World Heavyweight Champion

[Reply #707 on:]

And I say:

Congrats to Booker T.  He's deserved a chance to have a title run for several years.

Let's just hope he holds it for a long time.

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Wait, I thought The Undertaker was supposed to face The Great Kahli. Was there a switch (and if there was, why?), or was that simply a mistake?

[Reply #709 on:]

The Great Kahli has something wrong with his liver and wasn't cleared to wrestle.

Congrats, Booker. Enjoy your sixth world title run. I hope they do a better job of selling you as champion than they did with Rey.

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The Great Kahil has something wrong with his liver?  That's the same reason why Bobby Lashey wasn't in his match.  Are wrestlers drinking too much or something?

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Steroids, alcohol and pain killers are hard on the liver.

Take my word for it - most wrestlers do all three in excess.

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Stephanie McMahon and her husband Triple H welcomed their new daughter, Aurora Rose Levesque, into the world. Aurora weighs 8lbs 7oz. Both mother and daughter are doing fine. WWE congratulates the entire McMahon family.

Why do I have a feeling that in 20 or 30 years, little Aurora will be the top WWE Diva?

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Wow, Smackdown's roster is really shrinking now. Apperantly more people are expected to be put on the shelf due to health reasons soon, including Matt Hardy. There are allegedy concerns that the excess emnzymes in several wrestler's livers is being caused by hepatitis getting into the locker room.

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Actual video of RVD and Sabu's arrest.

 http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=1&pmmsid=1680640

I'd like to know what RVD's answer to "can you tell me why your car smells like dope?"

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I think this proves why Randy Orton should be cleaning toilets instead of main eventing.

I don't dislike him because he's a heel - I despise him because he's a piss-poor example of a human being.

In the next issue of WWE Magazine Randy Orton discusses his 90 day
suspension with the company for the first time reveals the final straw
that landed him the suspension shortly after Wrestlemania 22. In the
interview, Orton comments, "My problems came to a head when I decided to
smoke a joint and someone smelled it and stooged me off. You know who
you are, so if you are reading this, thanks. But I've also had a few
outbursts of anger on the road. I get loud and verbally abusive. But
I've nipped that part of me in the bud."

Orton also discusses tormenting an unnamed WWE Diva who later departed
the company (believed to be Amy Weber but not specified in the article),
noting that he was fined for the incident, stating, "I just poured a
bunch of ointment and Flexall and tanning lotion in her bag; it was like
a Louis Vuitton bag. I was fined $8,000 for destroying the bag. I've
been fined many, many times."

Orton denied a charge that he put a turd in Weber's bag. As to why he
pulled the stunt in the first place, Orton said, "The reality is the
company brought in this Diva and she couldn't walk without falling over
her own two feet. She had no respect for the business. She'd say, "I'm
here to help your show, it's not doing too good. She would call people
by the wrong name and rub us the wrong way. I took it upon myself to
mess with her my own way."

credit: PWInsider.com

O.K. Randall doesn't give the entire story:

A) He was verbally and vulgarly abusive towards all female employees except Stepanie McMahon.

B) Vince had to pay Amy Weber a reported mid-six figures to make her not ue the WWE for sexual harrassment.  She had a strong case with several other women willing to testify in her behalf, so it was cheaper to pay her off than let the case go to court.

C) His suspension came about when Trish Stratus confronted Randall about his boorish behavior.  He called her a 'dumb c*nt' and told her in front of several witnesses that the only reason Trish had a job was because she was 'fucking Vince and Johnny Ace' to keep her spot.

D) The original suspension was to be a way to take Orton off the road and shelve him for the remainder of his 2 year contract.  He would be paid the downside (about 50K a year) and then not be renewed.  Seeing how he was pulling over 1.5 million a year, he knew that his career would be relagated to the indy scene or being a greeter at Wal-Mart.

E) He doesn't say how he begged Vince and Johnny Ace not to fire him.  He had to appologize to Trish in public, attend anger management and is on probation.  He's one fuckup from being shelved.

I personally hope he fucks up again.  He's just a poor example of a human being.

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It's a real shame, you know. Such a waste of talent.

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My friend's father doesn't like wrestling.  He says that most of the wrestlers are gay since they spend most of the time touching each other.  It brings me to the question, are there any wrestlers that are gay in real life? 

I know Pat Patterson is since JR likes to make Patterson jokes.  I also remember the huge issue over in WCW when Lenny Lane and Idol pretended to be gay, and GLAAD threated to stage a WCW boycott.

It's weird as of late since many people are coming out of the closet.  Lance Bass from 'N Sync revealed he was gay.

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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:

My friend's father doesn't like wrestling.  He says that most of the wrestlers are gay since they spend most of the time touching each other.  It brings me to the question, are there any wrestlers that are gay in real life? 

No more than in any other walk of life.  When I first showed up in Georgia and was in the locker room, the late Moondog Spot came up to me and whispered, "Watch you ass, there's a fag in the locker room."  To which I answered, "Who?" and he said "Kiss me and you'll find out."

Anyway, things like that didn't bother me (because my trainers Moolah and Mae Young were two of the biggest lesbians I've ever met), Spot could tell I was cool with him.  He ended up being one of my biggest fans and was always telling Ole Anderson to give me a bigger push.

Most of the women wrestlers were lesbians or bi's, but the male population were either buried deep in the closet or mostly straight.

 

I know Pat Patterson is since JR likes to make Patterson jokes.

I was never in the same area as Pat Patterson and even I knew he was gay.  Rumor was that he liked to pickup the younger guys and the ring boys.  Patterson was well known to use his position of power to entice young men to 'play for his team'.

 

It's weird as of late since many people are coming out of the closet.  Lance Bass from 'N Sync revealed he was gay.

Things have changed in the past 25 years.  In the South, if somebody wanted to be a mega-heel and get heat, they would play a gay gimmick.  Exotic Adrian Street made a fortune doing that. Even when I was a heel in Florida, we ran an angle where Street and I crossed paths, and with me running a redneck gimmick - being around a gay was not acceptable, so a short feud was born.  That's the first time I got cheered - facing Street.  The roof almost blew off the buildings as I went down towards the ring and heard the fans chanting 'Kill the fag!'

Those fans would have been very upset to know that Street was running that angle and that he and I were in real life pretty good friends.

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dude have u ever wrestle the hulkster