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Eyedol7513

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« Reply #320 on: 07-16-2005 03:02 »
« Last Edit on: 07-16-2005 03:02 »

-I'll admit, the Matt Hardy thing did look real. But, as wwe_fk said, if it was real, he'd never gotten backstage, let alone in the ring.
-I think it's pretty sad that Matt had to come back under these circumstances. But, at least he's back.

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newhook_1

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« Reply #321 on: 07-16-2005 12:48 »

 
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Originally posted by Roy Bluth:
The WWE is going back to USA?!

And of course JR and The King act surprised, it's their job.


Not only that, there are rumors that TNA will get a deal with SPike TV and give the WWE some compition.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #322 on: 07-16-2005 22:35 »

I hope that's true.  I'd like to see what TNA is all about.  I've never seen the pay-per-views, but I hear a good number of former WWE and WCW superstars are apart of TNA.
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #323 on: 07-17-2005 01:23 »
« Last Edit on: 07-17-2005 01:23 »

WWE needs competition to improve their product. That's why some healthy, legal competition is good.
wwe_fk

Bending Unit
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« Reply #324 on: 07-17-2005 16:08 »

you can watch the tna shows at their website. tnawrestling.com.
fryfanSpyOrama

Urban Legend
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« Reply #325 on: 07-19-2005 01:57 »

I just saw RAW and I liked the lumberjack match between Snitski and John Cena.

I'm looking forward to Jericho and Cena because HHH is not involved.  The WWE is finally getting a fresh start and it's great.  I hope this lasts longer than just the summerslam.

The next contender should be Edge. Does he still have that money in the bag storyline? He had the brief case tonight.
Roy Bluth

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« Reply #326 on: 07-19-2005 18:57 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
I hope that's true.  I'd like to see what TNA is all about.  I've never seen the pay-per-views, but I hear a good number of former WWE and WCW superstars are apart of TNA.

TNA is basically WCW. They have Jarrett, Nash, Hall, and others.

I don't like Matt Hardy much, I was hoping he'd stay gone. Maybe go to TNA, he'd be perfect for them.

Does anyone know what Brock Lesnar has been up to? And Goldberg? I heard he was going to be in a movie with Ray Ramano.
starone

Starship Captain
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« Reply #327 on: 07-19-2005 20:30 »

What is this TNA?
Eyedol7513

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #328 on: 07-19-2005 21:23 »

@ starone: It's basically a wrestling promotion (like WWE), only on a much smaller scale. (It has alot of the wrestlers fired from WWE, and alot of other good guys.)
wwe_fk

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« Reply #329 on: 07-21-2005 17:09 »
« Last Edit on: 07-21-2005 17:09 »

@ roy: brock quit a while to try football but never did much so now he's trying to get back in wwe.

TNA will soon be a part of slamming sat. night once wwe moves to the USA network.

jericho is jobbing to cena at summerslam. HHH will be back on TV soon to feud with cena.
Roy Bluth

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« Reply #330 on: 07-23-2005 21:03 »

I thought JBL and HHH were going to team up on Raw. July 19 I believe.

What happened with that?

@ wwe_fk: I know about Brock going to the Minnesota Vikings(?) and being a third string pick. What I meant was, I heard Brock was suing the WWE for something, do you know what?
wwe_fk

Bending Unit
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« Reply #331 on: 07-24-2005 00:38 »

that was a couple months ago. it goes like this. when brock left wwe he was still under contract. In order to leave he had to agree to not compete for any wrestling, boxing or mix martial arts federation for the lenth of what his contract would have been, I think until 2007. he was sueing to get out of that stipulation. now he's in talks to return to wwe.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #332 on: 07-24-2005 22:59 »
« Last Edit on: 07-24-2005 22:59 »

Here are the results for Great American Bash

Roy Bluth

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« Reply #333 on: 07-25-2005 20:18 »

I'm glad Heidenreich and Animal won.

But Benoit should have beaten Orlando Jordan. It seems like Benoit's going backwards. He went from beating HHH and HBK at Wrestlemania XX, to losing to Orlando Jordan.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #334 on: 08-02-2005 01:22 »

It's cool that Matt Hardy has "signed" back to the WWE roster.

I was wondering if someone can answer this question concerning two different rumors about Bret Hart.

1. Is that Bret Hart has stated he'll never accept being in WWE Hall of Fame due the death of Owen.

2. Bret Hart spoke with Shane McManhon earlier this year about a possible return at WM 22.


Is there any truth in one of these rumors?  I'd like to see Bret Hart come back, but I'd understand why he wouldn't because of Owen's death.  However, I feel the reason why Bret Hart would never come back is because of his ego.  If he came back, he'd feel like he be ruining his status as Bret Hart or something like that, which what led him to leave to begin with.
newhook_1

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« Reply #335 on: 08-02-2005 06:36 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2005 06:36 »

The company he worked his ass off with for years backstabbed him, and basically caused the death of his brother and you think he's not coming back because of his ego? Bret and Owen were really close when they were younger. I would't want to work with the people who caused his death either.

It's true Bret whines a bit too much about the screw job, he didn't deserve it, but Vince has apoligized, (HBK hasn't, but he's a dickhole).

I'd say he actually deserves to have a bit of an ego anyway, because he was actually one of the best wrestlers of all time. Besides, he said he'd consider coming back for the Hall of Fame and to release a 3 disc DVD thingy with the WWE anyway.
fryfanSpyOrama

Urban Legend
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« Reply #336 on: 08-02-2005 15:28 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2005 15:28 »

I still believe that what happened to Owen was a tragic accident, sort of like a tightrope walker falling to his death if an accident occurred at a circus.  If I was Bret I'd be mad and blame the WWE as well, but if I had a long history with the WWE as Bret, I probably would've eventually forgiven them.  However, the reason why the screw job happened was because Bret Hart didn't want to lose the belt in Canada.  That was his ego talking.  I understand that he's a Canadian hero, but I don't think it would've killed him to lose the title willingly, since he was leaving for WCW anyway.  It's like having Hogan refusing to lose the title in America, because he's an American Icon.  Or Shawn Michael refusing to lose the belt to Austin at Wrestlemania 14 because that's his pay-per-view.  Bret Hart did screw Bret Hart, but don't get me wrong, I didn't like what Vince did to remove Bret as champion. Vince was an asshole for that and deserved that blow to his face.   
newhook_1

Urban Legend
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« Reply #337 on: 08-02-2005 16:53 »

You're right, Hogan wouldn't want to give up the belt no matter where he is. Like I said, Bret deserved to have a bit of an ego. Yes he should have just dropped the belt Canada or not, but it's not something less deserving wrestlers haven't done before, and Vince didn't bat an eyelash at them.
Roy Bluth

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« Reply #338 on: 08-02-2005 18:06 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
2. Bret Hart spoke with Shane McManhon earlier this year about a possible return at WM 22.

Sometime in 2002, I heard Bret had a stroke, and wanted to patch things up with Vince. I don't know if that's true or not.
Jay

Bending Unit
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« Reply #339 on: 08-05-2005 17:29 »
« Last Edit on: 08-05-2005 17:29 »

The stroke thing is true.  Bret has shot all of his stuff for the DVD, and is staying in Stamford the rest of the week.  As for the screwjob, check out Bret's site for the full story on it.  It's got Dave Meltzer's text on the whole thing, and it doesn't paint Bret in the nicest light, which is nice to see.  Bret looks to be in great shape, considering family troubles, age, and his stroke.  He'll probably be inducted to the 2006 Hall of Fame, in which case, he'll definitely be at Mania.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #340 on: 08-09-2005 00:34 »
« Last Edit on: 08-09-2005 00:34 »

 http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/brethart

This pretty much says it about Vince and Bret Hart.

 
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Hart and McMahon face to face
August 5, 2005

[image of Vince and Bret Hart shaking hands]

It was a sight many fans never thought they would see again, until now. Bret Hart and Vince McMahon met face to face today before shooting began for the upcoming DVD chronicling the Hit Man's career.

During shooting, McMahon and Hart both talked about Bret's beginnings, SummerSlam 1992, the historic Owen Hart-Bret Hart rivalry, Stone Cold Steve Austin, the infamous Montreal incident, Bret's jump to WCW and much more.

Afterwards, the Hit Man said he was "happy with how everything went today," regarding the Bret Hart-WWE joint production.
Jay

Bending Unit
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« Reply #341 on: 08-10-2005 22:19 »

He did an interview on Sunday night's Wrestling Observer Live stating that he just did it to give his fans a proper view of his career, and to make sure his legacy was left intact by WWE.  Unlike Warrior's, which will be tainting a tiny bit more by WWE's upcoming release.  They'll be tainting anyone's legacy who doesn't agree to come in for DVD set work. 
Dan1248

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« Reply #342 on: 08-12-2005 16:36 »

You're right, WWE is cool, for about 10 seconds...

Wrestling is cack! Not just because it's fake, but because its just the same thing over and over again.
Jay

Bending Unit
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« Reply #343 on: 08-13-2005 14:32 »

"Wrestling is fake" never gets old.  WWE has the habit of being the same old, same old, which makes me glad that there are alternatives out there like TNA and ROH for fans who seek variety.
newhook_1

Urban Legend
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« Reply #344 on: 08-15-2005 08:44 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2005 08:44 »

Sacrafice was awesome. Especially the main event, good to see Jarrett can still hold his own, even amoungest ex-ECWers. Hope he doesn't turn into the Triple H of TNA, though.

I'll definetly be getting the TNA PPVs rether than the WWE ones from now on. Seriously, I'm so sick of the WWE right now. The fact that they have to dig into their film archive to make DVDs because no one really wants to buy the current product on DVD speak volumes of how downhill it's gone in the last 2 or 3 years. 

Raw can be OK, but I watch Smackdown about once every two months to see if it's improved, and every time it's a mess.
Eyedol7513

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #345 on: 08-15-2005 22:25 »

I don't know when I stopped watching wrestling on a regular basis. I used to watch it while doing my homework. But now, since the product is so bad, it's not worth the effort. (But like newhook_1, I check it out once in a while to see how it is.)
Mystery_Meat

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« Reply #346 on: 08-16-2005 17:20 »

Shawn Michaels' interview on Raw last night? Best thing EVER.
fryfanSpyOrama

Urban Legend
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« Reply #347 on: 08-16-2005 18:32 »
« Last Edit on: 08-16-2005 18:32 »

I agree and the Bret Hart music entrance gag was perfect.  I knew Bret Hart wouldn't show up, and why because of his ego of resentment.

He only did that DVD thing because he didn't want the his ego tainted by the WWE.

Maybe Bret Hart can make a "surprise" appearance at Summerslam and finally say his side of the story, but Bret's too full of resentment to probably do it.

I'm still a Bret Hart fan, but I'm mad that he's been too uptight about the WWE for all these years.

Come on, Bret!  Just come back already, forget about the screwjob. 
newhook_1

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« Reply #348 on: 08-17-2005 12:15 »
« Last Edit on: 08-17-2005 12:15 »

Maybe if the WWE would stop trying to make money off it...

A wrestler said of Matt Hardy recently "That's the typical Vince McMahon. He'll tell you, 'My mistake' and talk you into coming back, then as soon as you sign, it's like, 'F-- you, I own you for two years!' and he makes you miserable." That's what it seems, in my opinion, Vince did to Bret Monday. Talked him into the DVD thing then basically slapped him in the face.


I don't get what's up with you and the whole ego thing anyway. The man's life is in shambles, and he probably just doesn't want to appear on TV. He said a while ago in an interview that bright lights give him a headache now days. Besides HBK has a bigger ego backstage than Bret ever did. Bret probably just didn't want to drop the title to him peroid because HBK,(wrestling/mic ability aside) is a dick in real life, and represented everything that Bret didn't like about what wrestling had become(edgier characters, more emphasis on stuntwork, less on actual wrestling, etc.)
fryfanSpyOrama

Urban Legend
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« Reply #349 on: 08-17-2005 12:27 »
« Last Edit on: 08-17-2005 12:27 »

If Bret Hart wants to prove that Shawn Michaels is the bigger dick, then all he has to do is show up at Summerslam or any future WWE ring.

And the headache thing is bullshit.  Bret Hart was known for giving excuses.

"I didn't want to lose the WWE title because we were in Canada."

"The American fans don't respect me because they like Stone Cold Steve Austin."

"bah bah bah because bah bah bah."

Bret Hart always likes to make himself the victim.

Bret Hart had the chance to show up in Shawn Michaels face back in November 1997 after the screwjob and didn't.  Michaels brought in that midget with the hitman mask instead and that's the last image of Bret Hart in the WWE and I don't like that image.

They made the real Matt Hardy/Lita/Edge situation as part of the storyline and did it in less than a year.

The Bret Hart/Shawn Michael thing has been around since 1997 and the fact that they've haven't made it into a storyling since is because Bret Hart doesn't want to do it because of his problem with the WWE and it would be against his character.
newhook_1

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« Reply #350 on: 08-17-2005 12:39 »
« Last Edit on: 08-17-2005 12:39 »

Number one, Bret had just poped Vince Mcman one right in the face. If he had resigned, Vince would have run him right into the ground.

Number two, the outcome wrestling is predetermined, there would be little satisfaction for Bret in facing HBK again. He'd probably be booked to lose, and he'd just have to work with someone he hates.

Thirdly, besides the fact that I just said it may have had nothing to do with Canada, as I said eariler, even Bret not wanting to lose the title in Canada is understandable to a degree. You may not understand because you live in the US, but the man is a national hero, and it was supposed to be his final match(he was retiring because he didn't like what wrestling was turning into).

Fourth, you misunderstand what he meant about Austin. He means that he felt all the respectability has gone out of wrestling due to characters like Austin. Austin was one of those edgey characters he didn't like as I was talking about eariler, he was worried about the future of wrestling if it kept going in this direction. Six years later, you have Triple H having sex with a dead body. If this is Bret Hart's personal opinion, and you are a fan, then you should respect it.

Fifth the man had to retire due to a major concussion and has since had a stroke. That's some major head trauma, and bright lights hurting his head isn't that far fetched.

Besides, he's known for whining about being mistreated, not making up excuses. There is a difference.
fryfanSpyOrama

Urban Legend
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« Reply #351 on: 08-17-2005 12:59 »
« Last Edit on: 08-17-2005 12:59 »

I'm not saying I want to see Bret Hart come back and wrestle, because I know of his concussion.

If Bret Hart came out with a steel chair and hit Shawn Michaels, knocking him out, to allow Hogan to win and Hart flipped the bird at Michaels and was never seen again, that would be enough for me.  However, the fact that Hart wouldn't want to do that is messed up.

Bret Hart should've just lose to Michaels if he was leaving anyway, there's no point in worrying what Canadian fans would think because they already knew he was going to WCW.  If I was Canadian I wouldn't care and I'd forget that loss because of bret's other accomplishments, instead I'd be still pissed at the screwjob, to this day.

Bret Hart's mind is stuck in the past.  His old way of thinking about wrestling is about as corny as Bill O'Reily's thinking about family values in today's world.  I hate O'Reily, but I like Bret Hart, and it's a shame he doesn't get with the times.  Hogan's accepted that his "take your vitamins, say your prays and drink your milk" doesn't fly in today's wrestling world.
fryfanSpyOrama

Urban Legend
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« Reply #352 on: 08-19-2005 00:33 »

What happened to Kane?  Did he suffer an injury? 

Is the Women title gone?  I know Trish is injuried, but how come the WWE hasn't stripped her of the Women's title?

Eyedol7513

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« Reply #353 on: 08-19-2005 02:04 »
« Last Edit on: 08-19-2005 02:04 »

^-Because there is no Women's Division. Who else could hold the title? If someone else held the title, there would be no one left to have a DECENT match with. (There are only two or three good female wrestlers, and the rest are eye-candy.)
-As for Kane, he probably took time off. With the new crap creative team, they probably don't know what to do with him.
fryfanSpyOrama

Urban Legend
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« Reply #354 on: 08-22-2005 16:58 »

Summerslam returns

fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #355 on: 08-23-2005 01:16 »
« Last Edit on: 08-23-2005 01:16 »

RAW was amazing.  I'm glad that Kurt Angle's the #1 contender.  In the old days it would have been HHH [yawn].  I personally would've gone with Edge, since he deserves a title shot.  Raw is finally getting interesting.  They say that Jericho is taking time off to tour with Fozzie.  Anybody know when he's coming back?
M0le

Space Pope
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« Reply #356 on: 08-23-2005 01:30 »

Hey guys, I just found out something about wrestling you all need to know.
newhook_1

Urban Legend
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« Reply #357 on: 08-23-2005 11:25 »

You're fake!
Dan1248

Professor
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« Reply #358 on: 08-23-2005 19:01 »

 
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Originally posted by M0le:
Hey guys, I just found out something about wrestling you all need to know.


What, you only just realised?!

fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #359 on: 08-26-2005 00:51 »

 
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Originally posted by Eyedol7513:-As for Kane, he probably took time off. With the new crap creative team, they probably don't know what to do with him.

Kane should go to Smackdown.  He'd be perfect.  I see him having a feud with JBL and then Randy Orton.  Smackdown could use the help.

What became of Muhammad Hassan and Daivari?  Are they coming back to Smackdown?  I don't agree with their views, they were good at being heels.

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