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gottalovebender

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« on: 09-03-2004 14:55 »

Okay, am I the only one who thinks [adult swim] would make like the best network in the world? They've got great shows, way better than anything FOX has, and all their humor is wasted on some late night mini-network of a kid's network. I just with they like had enough money, that is the problem isn't it? 'Cause you know, I like always have this craving to watch SeaLab or Aqua Teen, but I can't cause [as] is only on at night, makes me sad.

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TheLampIncident

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« Reply #1 on: 09-03-2004 15:14 »

The thing about Adult Swim being its own network is that the shows they have on now all air late, and probably for a reason to. Meaning if Adult Swim was its own channel, it would either have to pick up watered down shows to air, or it would have to make watered down shows to air. There's no way you could get away with airing shows like Aqua Teen Hunger Force on prime time.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #2 on: 09-03-2004 15:38 »

Why don't they air the Amusing American stuff in the day, and the stuff like anime and Hong Kong Action movies at night.
Coilette

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« Reply #3 on: 09-03-2004 16:02 »

I remember a few years back Before Cartoon Network created a separate channel for Toonami, there was a channel called CNX. Which showed CN's anime shows in the day and showed Martial Arts and such at night.
gottalovebender

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« Reply #4 on: 09-03-2004 16:14 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
The thing about Adult Swim being its own network is that the shows they have on now all air late, and probably for a reason to. Meaning if Adult Swim was its own channel, it would either have to pick up watered down shows to air, or it would have to make watered down shows to air. There's no way you could get away with airing shows like Aqua Teen Hunger Force on prime time.

Hey MadTV is risky but Comedy Central airs it all day every day, it's not like the network would be aimed for kids like cartoon network, plus, Aqua Teen rocks.

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David A

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« Reply #5 on: 09-03-2004 16:31 »

A channel that would show Futurama and anime during the daytime?  That's good.  But it would also show Williams Street crap.  That's bad.

Actually, there really aren't enough Williams Street shows to fill much of a 24-hour day, so the end result would probably be that they'd show a lot more anime.  Sure, sign me up.
gottalovebender

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« Reply #6 on: 09-03-2004 22:06 »

I love William Street, what's wrong with William Street? If anything they should tone down the anime.

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SlaytanicMaggot
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« Reply #7 on: 09-03-2004 22:14 »

The only anime they should get rid of is "Case Closed" - however, they NEED TO SHOW THE ANIME IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE W/SUBTITLES - except for "Cowboy Bebop," in which case the dub is better than the original. But they ruined FLCL when they dubbed it.

And also, I don't think an Adult Swim channel would be good. It's fine as it is (except for Case Closed.)

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David A

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« Reply #8 on: 09-03-2004 23:11 »

 
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Originally posted by gottalovebender:
I love William Street, what's wrong with William Street?

Nothing, it's just that all of those shows suck.

 
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If anything they should tone down the anime.

Well sir, there aren't enough shows currently on Adult Swim to fill an entire day's worth of time-slots, so if you want a 24-hour Adult Swim channel they'd have to add something, unless you want them to just show the same things over and over all day.  If they brought back a lot of the anime previously shown on Adult Swim they might have enough shows to fill an entire day.

 
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot:
The only anime they should get rid of is "Case Closed" - however, they NEED TO SHOW THE ANIME IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE W/SUBTITLES - except for "Cowboy Bebop," in which case the dub is better than the original. But they ruined FLCL when they dubbed it.

I understand that you (and many others) prefer subtitled anime to dubbed anime, and that's fine, but there's something that you need to understand: Subtitled anime will never be shown on television.  Ever.  People don't watch TV to read subtitles.  I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is.

And I like Detective Conan.  It's a cute show.
Dr. Morberg

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« Reply #9 on: 09-03-2004 23:15 »

An Adult Swim channel would suck, not only because there's not enough (comedy) programming to fill more than a few weeks, but it's almost certain that it would not be a basic cable channel, and that's all I have.
Philp_J_Fry

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« Reply #10 on: 09-03-2004 23:37 »

 
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Originally posted by Dr. Morberg:
An Adult Swim channel would suck, not only because there's not enough (comedy) programming to fill more than a few weeks, but it's almost certain that it would not be a basic cable channel, and that's all I have.


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DrJohnZ

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« Reply #11 on: 09-04-2004 00:10 »

...and it could bring back other canceled cartoons, like Rocko's Modern Life!
all life as we know it today would be so much better  smile
Philp_J_Fry

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« Reply #12 on: 09-04-2004 00:38 »

 
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Originally posted by DrJohnZ:
...and it could bring back other canceled cartoons, like Rocko's Modern Life!
all life as we know it today would be so much better

Rocko's modern life was and is awesome.  smile
bankrupt

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« Reply #13 on: 09-04-2004 01:04 »

 
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot:
The only anime they should get rid of is "Case Closed" - however, they NEED TO SHOW THE ANIME IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE W/SUBTITLES - except for "Cowboy Bebop," in which case the dub is better than the original. But they ruined FLCL when they dubbed it.

And also, I don't think an Adult Swim channel would be good. It's fine as it is (except for Case Closed.)


I disagree about the FLCL dub, I think it's a good one.

I do agree that an Adult Swim channel wouldn't work.  There isn't enough material available for them to put together 24 hour programing even if they could get around all the censorship issues.  They'd have to rerun shows into the ground which would get old pretty quickly.  I like it the way it is now.

Nurdbot

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« Reply #14 on: 09-04-2004 03:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Coilette:
I remember a few years back Before Cartoon Network created a separate channel for Toonami, there was a channel called CNX. Which showed CN's anime shows in the day and showed Martial Arts and such at night.
I remember that in the UK, it was awesome. Home Movies and barely touched Bebop on at night. Then they renamed it Toonami and put utter shite on it.

Tweek

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« Reply #15 on: 09-04-2004 06:06 »

They might not have the material for 24 hour broadcasting now, but it isn't that long ago that there were no 24 hour stations, I'm sure people back then thought there wasn't enough material as well.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #16 on: 09-04-2004 16:16 »

I actually think this will happen eventually....just not quite yet.  They still need to build up audiences a tad more, and gain a bigger backlog of programming.  When they have enough cancelled/ended (but fondly remembered) shows in their backlog, there will a channel to show all of them.  There's a Nicktoons channel, so there will be an AS channel.
gottalovebender

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« Reply #17 on: 09-04-2004 18:22 »

Thank you DotheBartman, way to be positive.

Also, do you actually think they would tone down the anime, I mean, if they stayed the late-night thing, it would be nice to see the sunday night shows during the weekday, but if they did turn into a 24 hour thing, they would have time and it would be okay to have all the anime. Plus, if they were a 24 hour network, they'd be able to get more shows. And the censorship thing, the only reason I think that they have to be on late-night is because they air on a kids network, and kids shouldn't watch that kind of stuff, there are much worse things that an all day network could air than futurama and anime.

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David A

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« Reply #18 on: 09-04-2004 19:28 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
I actually think this will happen eventually....just not quite yet.  They still need to build up audiences a tad more, and gain a bigger backlog of programming.  When they have enough cancelled/ended (but fondly remembered) shows in their backlog, there will a channel to show all of them.

Their current backlog mostly consists of anime shows, so if such a channel existed it would basically just be an anime channel with a few non-anime shows.  That's not a bad thing, in my opinion, but I don't know if that's what most folks around here would be expecting an Adult Swim channel to be.

 
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There's a Nicktoons channel, so there will be an AS channel.

That's not really a fair comparison.  I think that we're more likely to see a Cartoon Cartoon channel before we see an Adult Swim channel.

 
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Originally posted by gottalovebender:
And the censorship thing, the only reason I think that they have to be on late-night is because they air on a kids network, and kids shouldn't watch that kind of stuff, there are much worse things that an all day network could air than futurama and anime.

Agreed.  The stuff on Adult Swim is pretty tame compared to a lot of live-action shows, and those get shown during the day on basic cable channels.
evan

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« Reply #19 on: 09-04-2004 21:16 »

When you think about it, AS doesn't have a whole lot of programs that are not anime to be shown.  Most of its half-hour programing is of cancelled network shows (Futurama, Family Guy, The Oblongs, Mission Hill).  There's a finite amount of episodes for each, and some, like The Oblongs and Mission Hill, only have 13 episodes.  They'll run through those shows fast.

As for the Williams St. stuff, most of those shows are too new and don't have the backlog of episodes necessary.  I mean, I think there are only 20 Harvey Birdmans out there, and, at max, there are maybe 40 episodes of ATHF.  If you show two a night each night, that's only 4 weeks of programing.  Any AS channel would either need a lot more shows (which cost $$$) or rely on a lot more anime.
gottalovebender

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« Reply #20 on: 09-04-2004 21:34 »

Yeah but if they were their own network than they could get more shows, and aren't they still making ATHF and other William Street shows, if not then I'm out of the loop.

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LoveForFry

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« Reply #21 on: 09-04-2004 21:48 »

I too think that an {adult swim] channel would be nice, but would they have enough shows?dont think so. and, they would run out of material to air after a while.
evan

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« Reply #22 on: 09-07-2004 01:39 »

I did see ads that [as] will have a lot more new shows coming in the spring, but I'm just not sure if they'll stick long enough to build a network around.  There's that Seth Green show, the Boondocks cartoon, and the Venture Brothers, but all those shows are in their infancy, and don't have enough repeats.   I suppose that's why most shows need 100 episodes in order to be syndicated.
BumbleBeeTheta

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« Reply #23 on: 09-07-2004 02:10 »

Wait- so that little card was right?  [adultswim] is getting more "Family Guy," "American Dad" and "Boondocks"?  I thought both of the Seth McFarlane cartoons would be on Fox.

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evan

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« Reply #24 on: 09-07-2004 10:57 »

I'm pretty sure CN will have the rights to show the new episodes of "Family Guy," but I'm not sure.  "The Boondocks" was made as a pilot for FOX, but FOX didn't pick it up, so CN bought it.
Jicannon

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« Reply #25 on: 09-07-2004 20:39 »

Yeah, I was also under the impression that CN had the rights to all those shows.

Right now Adult Swim doesn't have enough shows in my opinion, but they could start airing shows they have dropped from their schedule...it's been a while since I've watched Adult Swim in the wee hours of the morning, but shows like Yu-Yu Hakusho, old Dragonball Z, etc (are they still being aired?)
DotheBartman

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« Reply #26 on: 09-08-2004 11:16 »
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It hadn't occured to be actually that "American Dad" would run on AS but that makes sense.  And BumbleBee, I think the point is that Fox airs them first, but then AS gets the rerun rights when Fox is done with them.

Personally I'm stoked for the "Boondocks" show.  I read the comic strip religiously.  Hopefully it'll live up to the comic.
John Pannozzi

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« Reply #27 on: 09-09-2004 17:12 »
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Originally posted by gottalovebender:
'Cause you know, I like always have this craving to watch SeaLab or Aqua Teen, but I can't cause [as] is only on at night, makes me sad.


Buy the DVD's.

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 Williams Street crap. 


You think Space Ghost: Coast to Coast (the OLDER eps.), Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law and Aqua Teen Hunger Force are crap? Man, I am losing respect for you.

David A

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« Reply #28 on: 09-10-2004 01:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Jicannon:
...it's been a while since I've watched Adult Swim in the wee hours of the morning, but shows like Yu-Yu Hakusho, old Dragonball Z, etc (are they still being aired?)

Yu Yu Hakusho is shown on Saturday nights, but not as part of the Adult Swim block.

 
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Originally posted by John Pannozzi:
You think Space Ghost: Coast to Coast (the OLDER eps.), Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law and Aqua Teen Hunger Force are crap? Man, I am losing respect for you.

Actually, I liked the older episodes of Space Ghost: Coast to Coast.  Those other shows suck, though.

I have no interest in your respect.
Squeaky

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« Reply #29 on: 09-10-2004 01:26 »
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot:
The only anime they should get rid of is "Case Closed" - however, they NEED TO SHOW THE ANIME IN THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE W/SUBTITLES - except for "Cowboy Bebop," in which case the dub is better than the original. But they ruined FLCL when they dubbed it.

And also, I don't think an Adult Swim channel would be good. It's fine as it is (except for Case Closed.)


Some people can't read thats why they never show anime with subtitles. Really, I would rather have american dubbed voices anyday.

I think an all day [as] would get old real fast because there is only so much they can show right now.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #30 on: 09-10-2004 01:38 »

 
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Really, I would rather have american dubbed voices anyday.

Ugh, dubbed anime.  Squeaky, have you ever sat and listened to that drivel?  Or compared it to an actual translation?  They ruin every joke and hire talentless VO's who can't emote to save their lives. 
And yeah, while [as] is the best programming on American telvision, period, they would need way more material to go 24-hours.  And probably be a pay channel to get around S&P for basic cable.
David A

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« Reply #31 on: 09-10-2004 04:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Nerd-o-rama:
 Ugh, dubbed anime.  Squeaky, have you ever sat and listened to that drivel?  Or compared it to an actual translation?  They ruin every joke and hire talentless VO's who can't emote to save their lives.

Depends what you're watching, really.  The quality of American dubbing varies from very good to very bad.  A lot of the voice actors are quite talented as well.
Squeaky

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« Reply #32 on: 09-10-2004 16:16 »

That and Dubbed anime is the only thing I've seen. I'm not a anime fanatic, but I do watch the ones on [as] sometimes.
FemJesse

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« Reply #33 on: 09-10-2004 16:21 »

Adult Swim technically has is own channel On Demand.
Comcast provides it at least.

I'm usually pro-sub, but some of my anime freak friends and I agree that Trigun is about the same quality in both.
David A

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« Reply #34 on: 09-10-2004 16:47 »

It's not like Trigun is an exception to the rule, either.  It's pretty typical of dub quality nowadays.

Bad dubs certainly do exist, but in many cases dub vs. sub is more a question of personal taste than one of quality.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #35 on: 09-11-2004 09:46 »

 
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Originally posted by DrJohnZ:
...and it could bring back other canceled cartoons, like Rocko's Modern Life!
all life as we know it today would be so much better   smile

you mean other people watch Rocko too? Man, that is like my favorite show... well, second favorite.. a heh heh.

Luckily there's a 'Nicktoons' channel on my Directtv airing reruns everyday at 3:00  big grin

Oh yes to be on topic, I think Adult Swim is fine just where it is.
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« Reply #36 on: 09-11-2004 10:05 »

Hey, adult swim could air dead but funny shows like the Critic or dilbert or maybe even Game Over that lasted only six episodes. I'd love an adult swim channel!!
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