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germanfryfan

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« Reply #80 on: 04-26-2004 17:45 »
« Last Edit on: 04-26-2004 17:45 »

What about the almost kiss scene from AFTR, I liked it very much!
Do you need a Frame Grab?

Hey, my fourth TOTPD

If there will be more TOTP I'll quit counting!
Coilette

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« Reply #81 on: 04-26-2004 17:47 »
« Last Edit on: 04-27-2004 00:00 »

Please, I don't have series one at the moment.

Here's one I did earlier.
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« Reply #82 on: 04-26-2004 17:47 »
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 eek
WOW! Thats a great drawing Coilette! One of the best freehands ive ever seen!

germanfryfan

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« Reply #83 on: 04-26-2004 17:54 »

Here you go

 http://k-hausmann.de/webspace/coilette_framegrab.jpg
Coilette

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« Reply #84 on: 04-26-2004 17:55 »

Right I'm on it. Cheers GFF.
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« Reply #85 on: 04-26-2004 17:57 »

Oooh, that'll be a good one. Good luck Coilette.
germanfryfan

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« Reply #86 on: 04-26-2004 18:01 »

Good luck Coilette. Seeing your picture above, I think this is gonna be great.

I think it's a good think having my DVD ripped on HD, it's a fast access and my DVD-Sets are save.
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #87 on: 04-26-2004 18:11 »

Coilette
Freakin' amazing! nice picture!
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #88 on: 04-26-2004 18:12 »

Yep its a great one. Showing both Leela's dream and reality at the same time was a great idea.
Logan Fils

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« Reply #89 on: 04-26-2004 19:08 »
« Last Edit on: 10-28-2005 00:00 »

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Coilette

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« Reply #90 on: 04-27-2004 13:03 »
« Last Edit on: 04-27-2004 13:03 »

I've finished it off, however I don't want to turn this thread into an art thread incase it'll get closed. So all requests that you guys ask for I'll post on my Fan-Art thread.

I take great pleasure in drawing pictures for people, even better when it's Futurama! So bearing that in mind, what's the next one then?

EDIT: I'll be drawing something from Parasites Lost (a loverly episode....  love ) no clues as to what it will be though.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #91 on: 05-01-2004 22:00 »

This supports my idea that Matt and David had planned for Fry and Leela relationship to be the focus of the show.
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« Reply #92 on: 05-01-2004 23:23 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
This supports my idea that Matt and David had planned for Fry and Leela relationship to be the focus of the show.

It was a major focus of the show. From the Pilot to the Devils Hands it was always looming over the main storylines.

DrJohnZ

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« Reply #93 on: 05-02-2004 00:31 »
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
 It was a major focus of the show. From the Pilot to the Devils Hands it was always looming over the main storylines.


Yea, thats what made me mad, it was the final episode, and I kept looking at the clock when it first aired, (10 mins. left, 5 mins. left!). But then it ended   and it didn't end in a way a show that great should end... Oh well, here's to hoping it'll come back someday.

When you do things right, people wont be sure you've done anything at all.
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« Reply #94 on: 05-02-2004 12:44 »

What are you talkin about DrJohnZ?! The Devils Hands was one of the best episodes in the series. And although i would kill for new episodes, I'm happy that the series ended on such a great note.
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« Reply #95 on: 05-02-2004 12:49 »
« Last Edit on: 05-02-2004 12:49 »

in my mind, the show never ended...

(that last bit of music forever sounding in his ears, SJM wanders off into the sunset, never to be seen again by mortal man.)

Translation: I had no prob with the love story. The only time it really bugged me was in Love + Rocket, with the 'You leave me Breathless bit.'

Ultra-Chees0R... but in the end, isn't that what valintines day is all about? Yes. (Die, you rhetorical bastard, die!)
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #96 on: 05-02-2004 13:37 »
« Last Edit on: 05-02-2004 13:37 »

 
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
What are you talkin about DrJohnZ?! The Devils Hands was one of the best episodes in the series. And although i would kill for new episodes, I'm happy that the series ended on such a great note.

I agree that it was a great episode, but I disagree with great note ending series thing... I just don't think that should have been the final episode is all. There are soooo many other things that could have happened.
Then again, if their true intension was to someday get the show back (like a hunch or something) it was a brilliant way to end the series... that way they can continue where they left off.... again, here's to hoping.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #97 on: 05-02-2004 21:23 »

Well you know they didn't know that that was going to be the last episode! I mean damn FOX canceled it before they knew it. So at least the episode was a good one to end on. Also the subtitle in the beginning "See you on another channel" was a sign of cancelation
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« Reply #98 on: 05-02-2004 21:51 »

I'd just like to say that I thought it was a great episode and ending on that note leaves hope that they will continue the series one day, if they had kissed it would have seemed more final.
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #99 on: 05-02-2004 22:51 »

Agreed, scooty puff snr welcome to PEEL I agree with you 

When you do things right, people wont be sure you've done anything at all.
Logan Fils

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« Reply #100 on: 05-02-2004 23:16 »
« Last Edit on: 10-28-2005 00:00 »

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passerby

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« Reply #101 on: 05-09-2004 13:57 »

 
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« Reply #102 on: 05-09-2004 13:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Spacedal11:
Xmas Story. While they were under the missletoe, if stupid Robo-Santa had waited like five minutes than I wouldn't of mind him trying to kill them. But I don't remember once hearing Leela tell Fry "I love you". He told her like three or two times but we mnever hear her return the favor. What does that mean?

It's a part of her personality. She's uptight and serious. She loves him really, or eventually comes to, but the rational part of her mind only sees his (admittedly many) bad points and refuses to acknowledge it. That's why she never says "I love you" to him.

I guess if you believe in the concept of "true love", as opposed to just having a relationship with someone, theirs is about as true as it gets. Their personalities don't naturally go together (There are a lot of reasons, as she says, why a woman wouldn't go out with him, and it has to be said that she has a lot of faults, as well).

The thing about Love though, is it dosn't come from the conscious mind , but from what can only be called (for want of a better word) the heart, and Leela dosn't make a conscious decision to love Fry, any more than she made a conscious decision to burst into tears while looking at her orphanarium photos. Just like that turn of events, it just develops, one bit at a time.

Though they may not get together during the series we see, they develop a subtle interaction that has a lot of compassion and empathy to it, that we just don't see either of them ever having had before in their past lives.

"The Sting" proved once and for all that the feeling between them was mutual. Fry refuses to leave her, even when it looks like she's just going to die, which is predictable based on what's been seen before that. What we find out, but was also somewhat predictable, even though she kept it hidden is that in spite of her shutting him out, they'd become so close that Leela can't cope with losing him, and goes from upset to unhinged to suicidal at the end.

In the final analysis of everything, neither of them changes in a way that the other would probably want either, they just lose their reservations about each other, and isn't that one of the signs of genuine love, that the people involved come to want each other for exactly who THAT PERSON is, rather than for what THEY consider the perfect partner to be?


Really, a full understanding of the Fry/Leela love story would have to take into account their personal character and history as individuals as well, but that would be too long to write now.
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #103 on: 05-09-2004 20:20 »

wow... just wow, nice explination
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« Reply #104 on: 05-09-2004 22:06 »

Yeah that is a great explanation for a tiny Poppler. Keep it up passerby!
scooty puff snr

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« Reply #105 on: 05-09-2004 22:19 »
« Last Edit on: 05-09-2004 22:19 »

That is great. I think even Matt and David would be proud.
Also Thanks DrjohnZ.
Venus

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« Reply #106 on: 05-09-2004 22:47 »

Thank You passerby. I've been trying to make that point for over a year now and i think you've worded it better than i ever have.
Teral

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« Reply #107 on: 05-11-2004 12:51 »

Wow, great post, passerby. Very good analysis, and I agree with most of it.

The only minor argument is Leela's going crazy in "The Sting" wasn't only caused by Fry's death, but equally (probably primarily) by the outside world (Fry's voice, gift, etc) intruding on her perceived reality. When she couldn't tell (her) reality from the (real world) fantasies she had no control of, she started losing it. In my layman opinion.
SpaceCase

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« Reply #108 on: 05-12-2004 14:53 »

Wow.
Passerby, you nailed it.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #109 on: 05-12-2004 16:31 »

Ok ok, enough with the passerby BS! Back to the discussion:
Spacedal11

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« Reply #110 on: 05-13-2004 11:46 »

Yeah nice explanation. Didn't mean for you to have a 7-paragraph essay about it but thanks.
Unknown

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« Reply #111 on: 05-13-2004 12:50 »

Another thing that always mystified me was Leela's inability (unwillingness?) to see obvious character flaws in some of her boyfriends (particularly Adlai and Chaz) simply because they had some sort of prestige, particularly in TWOF when you probably couldn't get through to her with a .44 Magnum to her head.  And this was allegedly one of the more rational characters in the series.  Sorry if this doesn't really make sense.
passerby

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« Reply #112 on: 05-13-2004 16:28 »

Thanks, everybody. You certainly make a poppler feel welcome!

I just wish I really were as good as you think, then i'd be able to write that alternate ending to 'The Sting' that's been bubbling through my mind. Or maybe an essay on how character, friendship and love all mix together in Futurama, to the point of becoming inseparable.

Teral,

You're absolutely right, but for some reason I just find the madness idea plausible, even if not true. It gets harder to remember how 'Sting' seemed on the first viewing when you never knew how it'd end, but nothing about it seemed out of character, even then. Perhaps, it wasn't really insanity, just desperation.

Spacedal11,

It was a pleasure to write, and your question went deeper into Leela's character than it might appear at first anyway. It deserved a full explanation.


and Unknown,

It just seems to me that Chaz was Fry reversed completely. The attraction there was all from the head, not the heart. She was swayed by his clout, like he said, which is a pretty shallow reason, and sure enough it didn't last even one date. Having never seen 'bicyclops', I can't comment fully, but wouldn't be surprised if something similar happened there.

Last a desperate plea - can anybody tell me how to put an avatar onto this existing account? I wasn't going to have one, but then found a good one.
Teral

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« Reply #113 on: 05-13-2004 16:40 »
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If you want one of the pool avatar: go to your profile (link at the top, just below "new topic" ), once you've indentified yourself the avatar is one of the first options.

If you want a custom avatar: go to the avatar thread in "off-topic" and post the picture with "upload to custom " under it, then wait 1-2 months until it's uploaded.

Edit: Adlai is from "The Cyberhouse Rules". As I've said in several threads allready, keep in mind he was her childhood love, she loved him even though he teased her (sometimes love makes blind). When he cam back a tall, handsome doctor and fulfilled one of her oldest dreams (having two eyes), well, she probably felt there were something there.
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« Reply #114 on: 05-13-2004 17:05 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Edit: Adlai is from "The Cyberhouse Rules".

Oops. Is my face red now.
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #115 on: 05-15-2004 12:12 »

 
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Originally posted by passerby:
Thanks, everybody. You certainly make a poppler feel welcome!

only the ones that don't spam up the chats, or act like jackasses to everyone  tongue
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« Reply #116 on: 05-15-2004 14:12 »
« Last Edit on: 05-15-2004 14:12 »

 
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Originally posted by DrJohnZ:
 only the ones that don't spam up the chats, or act like jackasses to everyone    tongue

aka....Me.   laff

DrJohnZ

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« Reply #117 on: 05-15-2004 23:04 »

HAHA, well... your not a jackass
SpaceCase

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« Reply #118 on: 05-16-2004 08:30 »

 
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Originally posted by Unknown:
Another thing that always mystified me was Leela's inability (unwillingness?) to see obvious character flaws in some of her boyfriends (particularly Adlai and Chaz) simply because they had some sort of prestige, particularly in TWOF when you probably couldn't get through to her with a .44 Magnum to her head.  And this was allegedly one of the more rational characters in the series.  Sorry if this doesn't really make sense.

Something has been rattling around my mind for some time:
Of course, Leela is a cyclops. Having only one eye, she does not have binocular vision, and therefore cannot perceive depth as people with two eyes can.
It seems to me that this inability to perceive depth, literarily (if that's even a word) speaking, goes a bit deeper into her character. Not only can she not perceive physical depth in the world around her, she has a very difficult time seeing depth of character in the people around her.
She knows that Fry loves her, but only after he told her so in PL, and his having risked his life for her on more than one occasion. It's kind'a hard for a girl not to notice something like that.
Still, Zapp was able to trick her into his bed, Alkazar was able to trick her into his bed, she was attracted to Adalai because he was a 'responsible doctor', and to Chaz be cause of the power and prestige of his position. Only after these bozo's did something outrageous (in Leela's opinion, at least) did she see them for the jerks they truly were.
Do not misunderstand me: I am not saying Leela is a shallow person. I'm saying that her being a cyclops and her resultant lack of depth perception is symbolic of her character's inability to percieve depth of character- or lack of it in the people around her.

I neither support nor reject the idea: I raise it for discussion, and I'd love t'hear what y'all think.

Later...
Venus

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« Reply #119 on: 05-16-2004 08:55 »

On Doctor Phil, he was talking to a woman in a bad, emotionaly abusive marriage and at one point he asked her if she felt she deserved better. After thinking for a moment she admitted that she didn't feel she deserved any better. And he told her that until she could believe that she deserved to be treated with dignity she would continue to let herself be walked on.

Now Leela has had it drilled into her head since she was very little that she was worthless and not deserving of anyones love. Which may be why she picks the kind of guys she does. But just because she may feel she doesn't deserve better doesn't mean she doesn't want better which is why i think she does eventually end those relationships.

People have pointed out that she tends to go for people in powerful or prestigious positions. I don't think it's the power itself that she's after, i think it's for the self validation. Because the general perseption is that powerful prestigious men can get any women they want. So if a man who can have any women he wants, wants her than as far as she's concerned that means she must be worth something.
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