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DrJohnZ

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« on: 04-11-2004 13:19 »

This shall be a thread for the times Leela and Fry almost made it, the times they were almost BOTH in love with eachother, the moments Fry would have been happy with the outcome.
thoughts, comments, and/or questions?
or just talk about what you think should have happened, when it didn't between Fry and Leela.

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3/4 of a Jesus

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« Reply #1 on: 04-11-2004 18:26 »

At the end of "Parasites Lost". I had a grudge against Leela after that episode because I'm very nerdy and pathetic and I love Fry so much, and it made me sad that Leela only loved him after he got worms. And the end, when he made that crude but adorable Leela picture with the holophoner was  so sad when we knew that Leela didn't feel the same way. :-(
Coilette

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« Reply #2 on: 04-11-2004 18:49 »

Ah a 'Shipper' thread. I agree with 3/4 Jesus, Leela is very short-sighted when it comes to Fry's feelings for her.

Another tender moment is at the end of 'Love and Rocket', when Fry touches Leelas hand and they smile at each other.... then along came Zoidberg to ruin everything. Oh well.
Venus

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« Reply #3 on: 04-11-2004 18:49 »
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At the end of The Sting i was so touched that Fry would wait by her side for two weeks even though he had been told that she was never gonna wake up. Those two weeks must have been a living hell. I can't even imagine what going through something like that would feel like. I don't think i would have been able to handle it.

He was so relieved when she woke up you could see it in the look he gave her right after Amy said her last line.

And you gotta wonder just how much longer would he have been willing to wait for her. A few more days? A few months? Years even? That's devotion on an amazing scale.    love   love    love
Digital Dragon

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« Reply #4 on: 04-11-2004 19:18 »

This seems as good a time as any to ask, what does "shipper", "shippy", etc actually mean?
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #5 on: 04-11-2004 19:44 »

Even relating back to the season 1 eppisodes, in 'SpacePilot 3000' when Leela took the chip out of her hand and touched Fry's hand, I thought there would be something between the two of them later in the show.
Also in 'A Flight To Remember' they were SO close, same with 'X-Mas Story'    oh well
Young_and_Angry

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« Reply #6 on: 04-11-2004 19:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Digital Dragon:
This seems as good a time as any to ask, what does "shipper", "shippy", etc actually mean?
"Shippy": Realtionships in Futurama/descbribing somethingwith realtionships.
"Shipper": Person who enjoys relationships in Futurama.

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TheLampIncident

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« Reply #7 on: 04-11-2004 21:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Digital Dragon:
This seems as good a time as any to ask, what does "shipper", "shippy", etc actually mean?

I know it's already been answered but I can't believe you didn't figure it out by context clues.

Digital Dragon

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« Reply #8 on: 04-11-2004 21:16 »

I got the general idea, although I thought it was something more along the lines of just generally slushy.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #9 on: 04-11-2004 22:48 »

Xmas Story. While they were under the missletoe, if stupid Robo-Santa had waited like five minutes than I wouldn't of mind him trying to kill them. But I don't remember once hearing Leela tell Fry "I love you". He told her like three or two times but we mnever hear her return the favor. What does that mean?
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #10 on: 04-11-2004 23:03 »

well, she did say "I love his boyish charm... but hate his childishness" or something like that, I think deep down she loves him... just Fry needs to know how to take that and produce something with that.
It looks like he succeeded in 'The Devil's Hands Are Idel Playthings'... but we don't know where it goes from there.   frown   cry

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Digital Dragon

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« Reply #11 on: 04-11-2004 23:43 »

I'm undecided on whether Leela really loves him, although I think the fact that she was willing to give up her hand just to hear Fry's opera says more than words ever could
Venus

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« Reply #12 on: 04-11-2004 23:58 »

i don't remember ever hearing her say 'i love you' to anybody. Maybe she just has a hard time saying it. After all she has been mistreated by a lot of people.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #13 on: 04-12-2004 00:02 »

Yeah but Fry loves her sooo much that he would dare mistreat her.
Venus

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« Reply #14 on: 04-12-2004 00:05 »

of course he wouldn't, but she doesn't know that for sure. She thought Sean loved her and he hurt her.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #15 on: 04-12-2004 00:26 »

Maybe Leela really is the ravenous killer she was in AOI 1 deep down and loves no one.
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« Reply #16 on: 04-12-2004 00:27 »

The teases (Flight to Remember, X-Mas Story) were by far and away more fun to watch than Fry being completely and totally pathetic.
Venus

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« Reply #17 on: 04-12-2004 00:30 »

He's pathetic cause he's sincere. i like it.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #18 on: 04-12-2004 10:19 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
The teases (Flight to Remember, X-Mas Story) were by far and away more fun to watch than Fry being completely and totally pathetic.

Well, they seemed more truthful and spontaneous. I think a lot of Fry's being pathetic seemed like forced writing and it ruined episodes like Love and Rocket.

Ekarderif

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« Reply #19 on: 04-12-2004 10:21 »

But Love and Rocket was great...
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #20 on: 04-12-2004 10:36 »

Love and Rocket was okay, but just a liiiiitle too cheesy at the end... blargh!
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #21 on: 04-12-2004 15:43 »

 
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Originally posted by Ekarderif:
But Love and Rocket was great...

'Love and Rocket' was amazing I thought.
I think Leela saw Fry in a new way after what he did for her.  smile

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Spacedal11

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« Reply #22 on: 04-15-2004 00:47 »

I love Zoidberg but again, if he had waited 5 minutes before he popped up at Leela and Fry in the end! Dammit Zoidberg! No one has the paticenes to harass them before they kiss! God!
Shaucker

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« Reply #23 on: 04-15-2004 15:11 »

Hey, if Zoidy hadn't popped up, it would have made that ending Waaaay too cheesy.

"And it couldn't have been better unless it was Valentine's Day. What? It was? Hooray!"

Don't forget the subtle shippiness in 300BB, where they're seen together at the aquarium ("Bye Fry and Leela...whoa!" ), and then when Fry saves her first, and tenderly carries her outside. Awww
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« Reply #24 on: 04-15-2004 15:38 »

 
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Originally posted by Spacedal11:
I love Zoidberg but again, if he had waited 5 minutes before he popped up at Leela and Fry in the end! Dammit Zoidberg! No one has the paticenes to harass them before they kiss! God!

Absolute best near-miss moment.  Followed closely by A Flight to Remember.

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DrJohnZ

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« Reply #25 on: 04-15-2004 18:10 »

Sooo many eppisodes, sooo many opportunities, but very little progress.   frown

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Spacedal11

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« Reply #26 on: 04-15-2004 18:22 »

My point exact. Never in a good light have Fry and Leela have kissed. Only when they were alone.
Love_For_Leela

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« Reply #27 on: 04-15-2004 19:05 »

Well... technically, they did during 'Time Keeps on Slipping', at their enforced wedding. And JohnZ nicked my avatar!
Venus

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« Reply #28 on: 04-15-2004 19:21 »
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Bender was there when Leela kissed Fry in TWoF. and the whole crew was there when she kissed him in IitMF
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #29 on: 04-15-2004 19:45 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
 Well, they seemed more truthful and spontaneous. I think a lot of Fry's being pathetic seemed like forced writing and it ruined episodes like Love and Rocket.

Bollocks. Love And Rocket was one of the best shippy episodes, although it did suffer from nagging Fry syndrome a bit. That's the thing: I enjoy shippiness when it happens more spontaneously and naturally like AFTR, Xmas Story, Parasites Lost and The Sting. But when it's just an episode of Fry begging Leela to go out with him, such as TKOS and TFP, then it seems too forced. Love And Rocket I can forgive because of the payoff at the end and also when Fry replies "Yeah, I know" in response to Leela's "Fat chance", it makes Fry seem that little bit more human and realistic with regards to the situation.
Venus

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« Reply #30 on: 04-15-2004 21:22 »

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
 and also when Fry replies "Yeah, I know" in response to Leela's "Fat chance", it makes Fry seem that little bit more human and realistic with regards to the situation.

i don't remember that. When did he say that?
Alliteration

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« Reply #31 on: 04-15-2004 21:59 »
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I think it was when he was looking for candy hearts that expressed his feelings for Leela.

I remember Leela saying "Fat chance" but I'm not entirely sure Fry said "Yeah I know".
Venus

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« Reply #32 on: 04-15-2004 22:11 »

i remember the 'fat chance' but i couldn't find 'yeah i know' in the transcript at TLZ.
davierocks

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« Reply #33 on: 04-15-2004 22:22 »

I seem to remember him saying 'yeah i know' too.  Although I really am too tired to go and watch the episode now, which is the only real way to know for sure.
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #34 on: 04-15-2004 23:22 »

 
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Originally posted by Love_For_Leela:
...And JohnZ nicked my avatar!

such a good picture though   big grin

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Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #35 on: 04-16-2004 10:26 »

I just checked Love And Rocket and Fry definitely says it:

Leela: I can't concentrate with all these obnoxious candy hearts in my face!
Fry: I'm on it! And maybe I'll find those magic words while I'm at it.
Leela: Fat chance.
Fry: Yeah, I know.

 They might've cut it for time when they originally aired it or something, but it's definitely there.
Venus

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« Reply #36 on: 04-16-2004 16:38 »
« Last Edit on: 04-16-2004 16:38 »

i went back and rewatched that portion of the tape, and that 'yeah i know' sounds an awful lot like  "ehh, no"  It was a response to the heart he was reading not having the words he wanted, not a response to what Leela had said.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #37 on: 04-16-2004 17:05 »

Oh. In that case, I stand corrected: that episode is utter shit.  tongue
Venus

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« Reply #38 on: 04-16-2004 17:34 »

Ack! That wasn't the outcome i was shooting for!
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #39 on: 04-16-2004 18:31 »

Nah, I kid, it's still a cool episode. But my point remains that shippy episodes work better when the relationship aspect feels less forced.
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