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SpaceCase

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« on: 02-21-2004 13:57 »

Hello All,
I've not posted here in a while (darn RL!),   hmpf
Meanwhile I've been lurking just beyond the light watching all the goings-on.   big grin
For those of you who might not already know, I'm a Leela/Fry shipper and darn proud of it thank you very much. Be that as it may, I've something to ask my fellow shippers. I don't believe quite this thing has been done before. But, to my question(s):

Regarding the Leela - Fry 'thang, if you could say anything at all to them, what would it be?

What impediments (large or small) are there in their way, and how should those impediments be addressed, for Leela & Fry to come together?

What would you have them say to one another?

Bear in mind that all this is aimed at Leela & Fry developing into a fully developed mutually loving relationship.*

If you object to the question, please feel free not to reply.   smile

That's all I have. I look forward to your replies (if any).  wink

I'll shut up now. Well, at least for nowwink

I do so hate that word "relationship!"
Shadowstar

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #1 on: 02-21-2004 14:23 »

I'd have them not smother whole episodes with their lovey goo-fest, a la "The Sting."
ActionLaPointe

Starship Captain
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« Reply #2 on: 02-21-2004 14:25 »

ide say hello.

fry needs to gain some iq points, leela needs to open up more.

fry would say, ill pick up the check. leela would say, what a gentleman.

SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #3 on: 02-21-2004 14:40 »

 
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
I'd have them not smother whole episodes with their lovey goo-fest, a la "The Sting."

Thanks Shadowstar.
Fine, you're entitled. What would you have them do?

 
Quote
Originally posted by ActionLaPointe:
ide say hello.

fry needs to gain some iq points, leela needs to open up more.

fry would say, ill pick up the check. leela would say, what a gentleman.


Thanks ActionLaPointe.
In other words, Fry needs to be smarter, and/or more mature? And Leelea needs to be less uptight?
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #4 on: 02-21-2004 14:42 »

 
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
I'd have them not smother whole episodes with their lovey goo-fest, a la "The Sting."


you have been visited by the Attack Cat. Please pick up your entrails on your way out the door.
SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #5 on: 02-21-2004 14:56 »

I perceive Venus is a mite peeved...   roll eyes

@ Venus
So, do you (or your ferocious attack cat) have anything to add to the discussion?  smile

<Aside>
D'ya hear it? No? That's the sound of my pillow calling my name. I'm going off-line (in more ways than one) for a good bit.
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Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #6 on: 02-21-2004 15:10 »
« Last Edit on: 02-21-2004 15:10 »

i don't know exactly what i would have them say to each other, but the scenerio i would like to see is: Fry and Leela get trapped in an elevater and while waiting to be rescued Fry suggests they play '20 questions' to pass the time. Leela agrees and they start playing. At first it's real simple questions, like favorite color and stuff like that, but the longer it continues the more serious and personal the questions get until they are confessing things to each other that they have never told anyone else before. And of course it's only a matter of time before Fry starts asking about their relationship, and the conversation develops from there.

And the Attack Cat is really only interested in licking the back of her thigh right now, so she has nothing to add.
Shadowstar

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #7 on: 02-21-2004 17:49 »

Sorry if I sounded like a dick, but I really hate everyone raving over "The Sting," while I saw it as a sap-fest.
Anyway, I don't know what I'd do with Fry and Leela. I'd keep it going the same as now, I guess.
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #8 on: 02-21-2004 17:56 »

i can forgive you. After all, you're a guy, i'm a girl. So stereotypically speaking, a sap fest to you is a triumph of emotion to me.
Shadowstar

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #9 on: 02-21-2004 18:10 »
« Last Edit on: 02-21-2004 18:10 »

NO! That's not it! I'm not an emotionless asshole! I loved the emotion in "Time Keeps On Slippin'" and "Luck of the Fryrish." I just didn't like it for an entire episode. "Parasites Lost" worked, with the perfect balance of the Fry/Leela romance and the hilarious voyage inside Fry's body. "The Sting" was all romance, with not a lot of good jokes.
Mango

Starship Captain
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« Reply #10 on: 02-21-2004 18:13 »
« Last Edit on: 02-21-2004 18:13 »

...I like Venus's idea with the elevator!  But do they have elevators in the future?  Anyway, someone write a fanfic about that!   love

...yeah.  As for what I'd have them do...um...I have noooo idea.  I'm not clever or romantic in any way whatsoever.   cry

P.S.~Yes, I admit it.  I'm a closet shipper.  Don't tell anyone!!!  mad
Shaucker

Professor
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« Reply #11 on: 02-21-2004 21:47 »

"Parasites Lost" made me laugh most of the time, while I was in tears by the end of "The Sting"...but I don't think that Fry's rabid adoration of Leela is gonna cut it in the long run. He needs to show her some kind of responsible act before she takes into account the savings and operas. Although it could help if she was less of an ice queen...
SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #12 on: 02-21-2004 22:46 »

I do believe Shaucker is on to something.

It's obvious immediately to even the casual observer what Fry's "issues" are: Immaturaty, ignorance or stupitity, and so on.

What about Leela?   confused

I have my own thoughts, but I want to hear yours.
Spice Weasel

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #13 on: 02-21-2004 23:40 »

The Sting was all romance???? What ep were you watching?  The Sting was more descent into madness than romance.
Futurama_Hil

Urban Legend
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« Reply #14 on: 02-21-2004 23:47 »

venus's idea sounds cool. of course,i'm not surprised. everyone who isn't me has good ideas...i can't think of anything right now  tongue

Shadowstar, and a sappy ep of futurama's a bad thing?  tongue

Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #15 on: 02-22-2004 00:41 »

@Mango: yeah there are elevaters. The crew ran into one to escape Robot Santa.

@spacecases: I think one of Leela's problems could be a fear of opening up to people. Because opening up to people is a form of vulnerability. And she doesn't like being vulnerable. Which makes sense considering her history. She was abandoned, emotionally abused, and was an outcast. If she dates some guy she just met and things go bad she can dump him and never see him again, but with Fry he's there everyday. And as far as i can tell he's the closest thing she has to a best friend. And he has a tendency to get involved with women and then lose interest rather quickly. So as far as she knows the odds of failure for a relationship with Fry is fairly high. And if she gets involved with him and things go bad, she hasn't just lost a lover she's lost her closest friend as well. 
SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #16 on: 02-22-2004 05:16 »

@ Venus:
Valid points.

@ Everyone:
To restate the question(s): What would you say or do to Fry and/or Leela to bring them together?
Futurama_Hil

Urban Legend
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« Reply #17 on: 02-22-2004 07:28 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
And if she gets involved with him and things go bad, she hasn't just lost a lover she's lost her closest friend as well. 

How do you know that for sure? some people get over that and seem to become friends again.

SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #18 on: 02-22-2004 07:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
 How do you know that for sure? some people get over that and seem to become friends again.


@ Futurama_Hil:
I think Venus' point is not that it will happen, but that Leela is afraid it might.
Teral

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« Reply #19 on: 02-22-2004 08:11 »
« Last Edit on: 02-22-2004 08:11 »

And evidence might back her up. How many of Fry's former lovers (excluding Amy) does he have contact with on a regular basis? Sure, they all showed up for Fry's funeral in her dream, but otherwise no contact at all.

Sorry, forgot this was for shippers exclusively. I'll butt out now.   wink
SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #20 on: 02-22-2004 09:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Sorry, forgot this was for shippers exclusively. I'll butt out now.    wink

You misunderstand, Teral. My comment was not intended to put-off non-shippers, it was intended to put-off those who would merely post to flame the question, me, "shipping" in general, or otherwise add nothing to the discussion.
So long as you're not doing any of that, you're not butting-in.
Shadowstar

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #21 on: 02-22-2004 10:07 »

Grrrr... I didn't mean ALL romance. I meant it was all about Fry and Leela. This failure to communicate frustrates me!
Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
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« Reply #22 on: 02-22-2004 10:42 »

I liked "The Sting" for it's bizarre storyline and good jokes. Sure there were some shippy elements, but nothing that would qualify it as a shippy episode. 

 
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
 You misunderstand, Teral. My comment was not intended to put-off non-shippers, it was intended to put-off those who would merely post to flame the question, me, "shipping" in general, or otherwise add nothing to the discussion.
So long as you're not doing any of that, you're not butting-in.

No misunderstanding, I was just making a quick off-topic remark.  wink
Bender145th

Crustacean
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« Reply #23 on: 02-22-2004 12:51 »

Maybe all that Fry needs is a small, adorable hat...
Shaucker

Professor
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« Reply #24 on: 02-23-2004 15:32 »

 
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Originally posted by Bender145th:
Maybe all that Fry needs is a small, adorable hat...

  big grin Perhaps that would help. But I still think that it's a fear of communication. Maybe if Leela opened up to Fry she would realize that maybe he would be mature and commiting in a relationship.

If you don't eat meat, you'll break out in vaginas.
Mouse On Venus

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #25 on: 02-23-2004 15:39 »

 
Quote
Originally posted by Venus:
i don't know exactly what i would have them say to each other, but the scenerio i would like to see is: Fry and Leela get trapped in an elevater and while waiting to be rescued Fry suggests they play '20 questions' to pass the time. Leela agrees and they start playing. At first it's real simple questions, like favorite color and stuff like that, but the longer it continues the more serious and personal the questions get until they are confessing things to each other that they have never told anyone else before. And of course it's only a matter of time before Fry starts asking about their relationship, and the conversation develops from there.

With all due respect I think that's a tedious idea. I have no real problem with the Fry and Leela relationship being a major part of a plot and in a few cases in the series it works well, but I couldn't possibly see how that idea would be interesting at all.
Unknown

Starship Captain
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« Reply #26 on: 02-24-2004 00:29 »

If there is/had been a 5th season, I think the relationship would have remained subtext for the most part, except in a few episodes.
nerdlingus

Professor
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« Reply #27 on: 02-24-2004 05:38 »
« Last Edit on: 02-24-2004 05:38 »

 
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Originally posted by Unknown:
If there is/had been a 5th season, I think the relationship would have remained subtext for the most part, except in a few episodes.

Second!

I'm sure they held off the Fry/Leela thing to tease the audience (plus it gives them more jokes and stories the longer they hold out)

But they are definately hiding something, the relationship hardly gets mentioned on the commentaries except for a few sly remarks usually involving us shippers or whether they should get them together so they have definately had meetings on this and possibly even came up with a draft of an episode where they confess all to each other.
I can wish....
The elevator fanfic sounds good though!   smile
PCC Fred

Space Pope
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« Reply #28 on: 02-24-2004 12:04 »

The trouble with UST is it can only go on for so long before it gets stale.Can you imagine what it would've been like if Futurama had lasted as long as the Simpsons and they still hadn't gotten together?
nerdlingus

Professor
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« Reply #29 on: 02-24-2004 12:20 »
« Last Edit on: 02-24-2004 12:20 »

Well, getting them together would've worked but they would have to write in a few mishaps to maintain interest in the show, so there relationship would be far from perfect.

But don't you love it when sci/fi manages to convey feelings we all have or have had?
(in the 'shippers' case with regards to fry/leela)

Its like one of those New Romantic/Love ballads from the 80's you secretly like, or if like me, punish your friends ears with it!
(Techno is good but then so is Bonnie tyler   smile )

  laff
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