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PEE Poll: Whose death would be most tragic?
Fry   -31 (37.8%)
Bender   -8 (9.8%)
Leela   -25 (30.5%)
Amy   -3 (3.7%)
Hermes   -1 (1.2%)
Professor   -3 (3.7%)
Zoidberg   -6 (7.3%)
Scruffy   -5 (6.1%)
Total Members Voted: 82

fryfanSpyOrama

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« on: 02-09-2004 02:36 »
« Last Edit on: 03-22-2004 00:00 »

One thing I don't like about TV shows is when they kill off a popular or well-liked or well-known character i. e. Maude from the Simpsons.  So wouldn't it be tragic to have one of the popular PE crew members died off?  Which loss would be the worst?

It is hard to decide, w/o Fry and Leela there is no romance, but w/o Bender and Zoidberg there is no comedy.  Fry is the star, but Leela is the heart of the show.

The reason for this topic is that I've read fanfics where they have one of the main characters die. I have respect for the writers who do them, but it is just so sad because the fanfics are so well-written.
zapperdan

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« Reply #1 on: 02-09-2004 02:42 »

leela - she keeps the gang together, and safe, for that matter. fry would be devestated and unable to carry on living. the delivery buisness would have no captain, so the professor would go bankrupt and hermes would be busted down for letting it happen. and bender would lose the only person who liked his in your face interface.
Venus

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« Reply #2 on: 02-09-2004 02:44 »

i know you meant tragic story wise, but i'm voting character wise.

Leela's death would be the most tragic because Fry wouldn't be able to handle it. It would destroy him. He loves her way to much to deal with losing her.
Mattybwoy

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« Reply #3 on: 02-09-2004 02:51 »

Fry would probably kill himself. Leela reacted badly when Fry 'died' (it was a dream but...), but just imagine how Fry would react if Leela was killed... it would be sadder than Jurrasic Bark...  :(
David A

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« Reply #4 on: 02-09-2004 03:08 »

We already have a thread like this.
Venus

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« Reply #5 on: 02-09-2004 03:31 »

Not really, that one is specific to non-main characters, this one includes them.
davierocks

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« Reply #6 on: 02-09-2004 03:34 »

Yeah I agree with Venus story wise Frys Leelas death would be worse, but I personally would be most saddened by Fry's death.
David A

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« Reply #7 on: 02-09-2004 03:55 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
Not really, that one is specific to non-main characters, this one includes them.

True; but at the very least this should be moved to human resources.

Why isn't anyone voting for Bender?  Remember his deaths in the "AOI" episodes?  That was tragedy.
Yinger36

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« Reply #8 on: 02-09-2004 03:58 »

I think the death of either Fry, Leela, or Bender would kill the show, since a big part of many of the eps revolve around one or more of these characters.
hibob

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« Reply #9 on: 02-09-2004 04:00 »

I would have to say Zoidburg. I dont know why.. but he talks to me  :p
DotheBartman

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« Reply #10 on: 02-09-2004 04:48 »

Probably Fry, although it would certainly been JTS if Fry, Bender, or Leela died.

Amy, Professor, or Zoidberg dying would be potential JTS, but its possible the show could go one without them.

Same with Hermes although less so.   I think Scruffy dying is something the show could manage.  ;)
chib

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« Reply #11 on: 02-09-2004 09:28 »

Fry is a pivitol character, and while the death of Leela would be tragic, Fry's (not) dealing with it could be an interesting character curve.

Also Fry is apparently the most important person in the universe. Unless his dying was part of the Niblonians plans then they wasted their time.

Actually, thinking about it, Nibbler did refer to Leela as 'the other' or something similar. Maybe one or both of their deaths is vital for the future of the universe.

Wow, deep. Or utter gibberish. Whatever
John C
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« Reply #12 on: 02-09-2004 09:52 »

 
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Originally posted by hibob:
I would have to say Zoidburg. I dont know why.. but he talks to me   :p

What? He's been sneaking around behind my back again!

Actually, like a lot of other people, I'm going with Leela. Not only would Fry be upset, but so would her parents.

Xmpel

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« Reply #13 on: 02-09-2004 10:09 »

Guess who's parents are shitty and boring, Leelas ! Who cares if they get upset ?

I votes Farnsworth, I would miss him  :(
Zeep

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« Reply #14 on: 02-09-2004 10:37 »
« Last Edit on: 02-09-2004 10:37 »

If Leela died, not only would there be no captain for the PE ship, which would mean no space travel, but Fry would break down like Leela in The Sting, and Amy wouldn't be able to make those jokes like "So this is where you shop for your boots!" or "Do they come in women's sizes?"   ;)
SwanMan3000

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« Reply #15 on: 02-09-2004 10:54 »

Terals, not up there though.
Bushmeister

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« Reply #16 on: 02-09-2004 13:49 »

I would also say Leela, for the reason that Fry would most likely be crushed by her death.
rule brittannia

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« Reply #17 on: 02-09-2004 14:04 »

definetley leela, i agree with bushmeister
Gorky

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« Reply #18 on: 02-09-2004 19:13 »

This is a tie between Fry and Leela. Fry is the heart of the show, while Leela is the one who keeps it all together. They're both such important characters and without them, there would be no show. No matter how many great Bender and Zoidberg lines there are, no matter how funny the Professor and the rest are, there would be no Futurama without the Fry/Leela dynamic.
newhook_1

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« Reply #19 on: 02-09-2004 19:40 »

Tie between Fry & Leela, but I voted Fry b/c Leela is in the lead. I think the show could move on without Bender, because well, quite frankly there are thousands of robots exactly the same as him, and we see in HHRHGB that his personality can easily be transferred to another Bender Bot. 

Who are the two who voted for Scruffy? Come on, own up!
theZoid88

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« Reply #20 on: 02-09-2004 20:29 »

i love how no one cares about amy hermes or bender. i can understand amy and hermes ( they suck) but bender not the lovable rascal!
ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #21 on: 02-09-2004 21:12 »

ima vote leela, even tho if fry died it would be so tragic that the show wouldnt really be possible, unless a new main character was identified oddly...
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #22 on: 02-11-2004 12:29 »

I'm surprised nobody has yet voted for Bender.
canīt_read

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« Reply #23 on: 02-12-2004 06:42 »

for impact: Farnsworth

But this board is about the most tragic death so I'll say Zoidberg just because he's had a pretty cruddy life so far, and it would be awful to see him go on a sad (yet hilarious) note.
Ozor Mox

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« Reply #24 on: 02-12-2004 12:12 »

 
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i can understand amy and hermes ( they suck)

 
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But this board is about the most tragic death

*Points to the door*

On topic, I voted for Amy because she only had one vote, but in terms of the story I would go for Fry. It wouldn't make any sense without him.
Mattybwoy

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« Reply #25 on: 02-12-2004 12:34 »

When Fry dies, there will be no more hope for the universe, so the tragedy wouldn't last long... if Leela died the tragedy lives...
Rhodan

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« Reply #26 on: 02-12-2004 12:34 »

 
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Originally posted by chib:
Fry is a pivitol character, and while the death of Leela would be tragic, Fry's (not) dealing with it could be an interesting character curve.

Agree completaly. You canīt have Futurama without Fry, premise of series was built on him.  Leela as dead would be actually maybe more interesting than now as alive.

VoVat

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« Reply #27 on: 02-12-2004 12:37 »

 
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When Fry dies, there will be no more hope for the universe, so the tragedy wouldn't last long...

Is that true, though?  He already got rid of the Brain Spawn.  I guess they still haven't explained that "other" business, though, so there might be more to Fry's being the most important person in the Universe than was revealed in "The Why of Fry."
Teral

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« Reply #28 on: 02-12-2004 13:57 »

 
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Originally posted by Rhodan:
 
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Originally posted by chib:
Fry is a pivitol character, and while the death of Leela would be tragic, Fry's (not) dealing with it could be an interesting character curve.

Agree completaly. You canīt have Futurama without Fry, premise of series was built on him.  Leela as dead would be actually maybe more interesting than now as alive.


If by interesting you mean "effectively kill the show", then you are absolutely right.
Gorky

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« Reply #29 on: 02-14-2004 09:08 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
I'm surprised nobody has yet voted for Bender.

I think, if we're talking about the impact on the show, Bender's death would not be as tragic as Fry or Leela's. He is the irreverent one and source of a lot of the comedy, but I find Zoidberg and the Proffessor to be just as funny.

Rhodan

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« Reply #30 on: 02-15-2004 10:36 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
 If by interesting you mean "effectively kill the show", then you are absolutely right.
Really? i donīt think so. Being inferior mutant freak and only importency of character being now relationship with Fry, her role is pretty flatt.
Of course, I actually also donīt want to any character to die but just try to imagine Fry when Leela die, that would be interesting.
Teral

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« Reply #31 on: 02-15-2004 11:17 »

 
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Originally posted by Rhodan:
 Really? i donīt think so. Being inferior mutant freak

She has superior physical strenght, pretty good flying abilities despite her lack of depth perception and compared to those normal humans around her she's more dedicated, focused and strong-willed. Inferiro? I think not. Mutant, yes. Freak, no, since all people see her as an alien. And how is she more freakish looking than Morbo and H.G.Blob (who both have normal jobs and lives).
 
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and only importency of character being now relationship with Fry, her role is pretty flatt.

Let's have a look at the 4ACV episodes.

 Kif Gets Knocked Up A Notch: Mother of Kif's babies, have to endure Zapp's come-ons, no shippy content

Leela's Homeworld: Finds her parents, about her being lonely, no really outspoken shippy content

Love & Rocket: Shippy as hell, since it's a Valentines Day special it's to be expected

Less Than Hero: Being a superhero, and touching on her relationship with her parents, no shippy content

A Taste Of Freedom: Leela tries to defend Zoidberg and the freedom of speech in the scenes she has, no shippy content

Bender Should Not Be Allowed On TV: Not centered on Leela, no shippy content

Jurassic Bark: Some "nice" Leela-scenes ( ;)), Leela supporting Fry as a friend, no shippy content

Crimes of the Hot: Group-show, no shippy content

Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles: Leela tries to relive her youth with chores, curfews and dates, a few shippy scenes, nothing major though

The Why Of Fry: Fry-episode, shippy though

Where No Fan Has Gone Before: Leela and Bender just tags along on Fry's wacky adventure, no shippy content

The Sting: Shippy as hell, though some of it can be attributed to friendship as well

Bend Her: Leela mostly reacting to Bender's sexist remarks and organizing his bail-out, not shippy

Obsoletely Fabulous: Not shippy, mostly a Bender dream

The Farnsworth Parabox: Somewhat shippy, although I agree that part was pretty artificial


Three Hundred Big Boys: Leela's interest in animals is most predominant, although you could argue that the fact that Fry rescue Leela first is a shippy scene, although I would say it's just a natural reflex for Fry to save his friends first

Spanish Fry: Not shippy, Leela is more outdorsy, taking charge or non-caring.

The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings: The mother of all shippy episodes

Ofcourse I left out one-liners and other quick jokes.

So a total of 4 shippy episodes and 3 episodes with a few shippy scenes. I don't think you can reduce Leela's role in the show to "love-interest of main-character". She has more sides and more to contribute. You might as well say Fry's only role is to win Leela's love.

 
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Of course, I actually also donīt want to any character to die but just try to imagine Fry when Leela die, that would be interesting.

Interesting for an episode, maybe two, yes. But then what would happen? The show would've lost one of it's driving forces, the Leela-Fry "relationship" (actually them getting married would be a better twist, and I don't like that option either). Many of Futurama's jokes come from this interaction, and sacrificing that source for one good episode is a bad trade in my opinion. Plus we've allready seen Fry's reaction to Leela dying in "The Sting". So, yes, it would be interesting, but the sacrifices are too big.

As shocking as this may sound, my Leelaholic background have no bearing on this opinion, if I was an Amyholic I would feel the same way.  ;)
Venus

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« Reply #32 on: 02-15-2004 15:48 »

i agree with everything Teral just said! except that i still think Fry saving Leela first in 300 Big Boys was shippy, cause if it was just a matter of saving his friends first he could have gone to Bender (who was actively on fire) or to anyone else on the crew. all of his friends were present but he still zeroed in right on Leela.
Woodbot 2.0

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« Reply #33 on: 03-15-2004 21:08 »

Fry or Leela.
Ether way if one dies,the other wold kill themselfs because of the other's death.
victor2000
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« Reply #34 on: 03-15-2004 21:59 »

I would feel the worst if Fry died, so I voted for him.
benderette

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« Reply #35 on: 03-15-2004 23:28 »

I was nearly in tears when they aired the episode with the Space Honey a couple of weeks ago (Channel 7 Melbourne) when Fry died but it was really Leela in the coma. I was devastated and an emotional wreck at the end of the episode.
Digital Dragon

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« Reply #36 on: 03-16-2004 16:26 »

It has to be Fry. He really is the show’s heart, the dumb twentieth-century everyman through whom we  see the world of tomorrow. The most important person in the universe and yet he’s quite possibly the most normal and realistic character in the show. In my opinion the best drama in Futurama has come from explorations of Fry’s character, Jurassic Bark, The Devil’s Hands are Idle Playthings, Parasites Lost, Luck of the Fryish, etc: Episodes which have shown how deep, courageous and soulful Fry really is. I like Leela, but she simply can’t replace Fry. If you don’t believe me recall your reaction to The Sting. Then imagine it didn’t turn out to be a dream. Fry is Futurama.
Maltho

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« Reply #37 on: 03-16-2004 18:25 »

I said Fry as well. Good point, however, that Fry would be devastated if Leela died. I chose Fry becuase the show is about Fry. Fry fell in the cryogenics tube, Fry came to the year 3000, Fry's nephew gave them the jobs, the whole show revolves around Fry. Fry IS Futurama.
Gambit

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« Reply #38 on: 03-17-2004 18:32 »

Yeah, fry would be the worst, however, id be upset if scruffy died, he never did anything wrong to anybody
krokerjoker

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« Reply #39 on: 03-18-2004 08:19 »

 
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Originally posted by Maltho:
I said Fry as well. Good point, however, that Fry would be devastated if Leela died. I chose Fry becuase the show is about Fry. Fry fell in the cryogenics tube, Fry came to the year 3000, Fry's nephew gave them the jobs, the whole show revolves around Fry. Fry IS Futurama.

Extactly!
  :)
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