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Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Not all videotapes were destroyed during the second coming of Jesus, only a large part. They've probably become collectors items, and very valuable (like Beamer suggested). Only millionaires or dedicated collectors can afford them.
Since the new digital formats are superior in terms of quality, most people prefer those anyway.
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1 of the gang
Starship Captain
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Originally posted by Luis: Some women do find sensitive or cute guys attractive i think, but so far i've only found frivolous girls that look for jocks, backstreetboys and preps, so i dunno. In any case, maybe Amy is actually compensating for the fact that, at least around planet express, she's the "cute" and weak one (maybe Fry's weaker, i dunno)while with Kif, she's the strong and dependable element. So if you see it as a codependent relationship potentially leading to a disfunctional family, it makes much sense. Once again Luis makes a really good point.And I totally know what you mean when u said that the girls u see r only looking for jocks, backstreetboys, and preps(believe me! )But you bring up a good point about Amy being the weak one most of the time and then in her relationship with Kif she is kind of the assertive and strong one.
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Bushmeister
Professor
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I think that is a nice enough part of the show, although I do like most of the romance featured in Futurama. I do have some qualms about how pathetic they meade Kif look especially after how sarcastic and quite strong willed in LLLIS.
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Dolcelannah
Bending Unit
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I don't think there's any problem with Amy and Kif being together. It's true - you can't base social mores for the year 3000 on the ones we have today! I mean, think about the social rules just 300 years ago - if you weren't married when you were 22-ish, you were considered an old maid, gay relationships weren't even heard of, inter-racial marriages would result in disownment. Look how much has changed today! And that's only 300 years, so we really can't predict what marriage will be like in the year 3000, we can only base our assumptions on the society that Matt Groening has created. And as we can see in Love's Labours Lost In Space, when Amy tells Leela she's being too picky by not dating people with lizard tongues, beings of energy etc., it's really commonplace to have inter-species relationships. But if you think Amy's too good for Kif, that's a different matter. Just keep in mind that all of the main characters in Futurama are dysfunctional in some way, some more than others. Amy (as it's written in someone's signature) is a klutz. She's a bit naive as well. Don't get me wrong, I love Amy. But she's not superior over the other characters - if she was, she'd be a really boring character. And Kif, well he may be really shy, but he's a real sweetheart and he's pretty intelligent. And because of Amy's parents, she had to pick a boyfriend from the Titanic - her other choice was that gross guy at the buffet. So Kif's a great choice for her, and you can see she loves him, so they're really not a bad match. I'm rambling, aren't I?
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David A
Space Pope
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Originally posted by Dolcelannah: ...inter-racial marriages would result in disownment. Disownment ? They'd result in lynchings. It's clear that humans dating aliens is acceptable and probably even commonplace in thirty-first century society. Amy and Kif seem quite compatible, so there's no problem there either. The reason that I dislike the Amy/Kif relationship is different. I dislike it because it removes Amy as a possible love interest for Fry. Remember the way that "Put Your Head on My Shoulders" ended? It left both the Fry/Leela option and the Fry/Amy option open. Wouldn't that have been more interesting than just having Fry pursue Leela all the time? But no, instead they pair Amy off with Kif, leaving Leela as the only regular character for Fry to have as a romantic prospect. Boring.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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They did SORT OF do that "Fry dating Amy, and Leela becoming jealous" in A Flight To Remember, although they weren't really dating - and I think that Leela's jealously in that episode was more-or-less because she was the only one alone, rather than she wanted Fry. Still, I'm pretty sure that AFTR marked the first time we discovered Fry's feelings for Leela ("my fake relationship with you means a lot more to me" ), although at the time - I think it was just to do the whole Love Boat/Three's Company parody. Still, it became much more than that in season 3.
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Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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It might also have something to with the fact that Leela and Amy were still at odds in the first season. I mean, Leela didn't so much mind Fry having another fake relationship as she resented that the fake relationship was with Amy.
If Fry and Amy had stayed together would Leela and Kif have developed mutual feelings? Or were their experience in "Brannigan Begin Again" enough to kill that idea?
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Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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By David A: When did they stop being at odds with each other? I must have missed that one. "Please Leela, Kif's like the sweetest guy who's ever loved me." And Leela agree to go on a doubledate with a guy she loathes, because Amy asked her to. And Amy reciprocates: "Cheer up Leela. You, um, you look really cute in your uniform." So they still make stingers at each other, but it's more friendly banter in later eps, than the first 2 seasons. Originally posted by David A: I doubt it. If she's repulsed by a guy with a "vile lizard tongue" she's not very likely to be interested in a squishy green guy. Even if he is the mother of her children?
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Roboturchin
Crustacean
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Kif can't be that much of a wimp because in 300 Big Boys you see him whipping spider ass, that is until Zapp runs over him.
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Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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What jokes was based on Amy being stupid?
Nothing really changed about the characters, except they now are in love.
Amy is still clumsy, rich, a bit less spoiled (hey, she's maturing), friendly and funloving.
Kif is still slightly pathetic (yes, I freely admit they overdid it in "300 Big Boyes" ), resentful of Zapp, shy and lack confidence.
Persoanlly I thought "Amazon Women In The Mood", "Where The Buggalo Roam" and "Kif Gets Knocked Up A Notch" where hillarious.
I don't see what you mean by their characters were changed. Development equals change over time.
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