Why Leela flirts with Fry?

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she`s evil

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Originally posted by Javier Lopez:
she`s evil

No she isn't. Her loan officer said so.

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Originally posted by Cami:
We all know that the last episode, the season finale, Leela is probably going to kiss Fry, and they live happy for ever and ever  lol

Yeah, but think about it.  We all know that that final episode was written by Ken Keeler, and judging by the quality of some of his previous works, on both Futurama and the Simpsons, the ending will probably be relatively dark.  I mean, think about the ending of "Time Keeps On Slippin'" (3ACV14).  There was a big romantic story going on, with Fry making a genuine, hardworking effort to win Leela, but that ending (while I think it was absolutely perfect) was incredibly dark - all that effort and heartache Fry had gone through came to nothing. 

We know that something is supposed to happen between them in The Devil's Hands... but going by Ken Keeler's previous record, I wouldn't expect it to be all love and light, either.

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Originally posted by getak2003:
yeah right, whatever, go try and get a decent guy one eyed freak! like it will ever happen. she has ONE eye! can't they ever make her realise that SHE WILL NEVER GET ANYONE IMPORTANT if she was an alien, maybe, but a mutant? NO! Fry is the only one her seems to have feelings for her, that's it, everyone else she has ever gone out with never gave her a REAL romantic relationship:

chaz (aide guy): Just wanted to get laid
Brannigan: never scored before her, wants her ass
Sean: just using her as a trophy (who has never seen the guy who brags about dating the one eyed chick or chick with one tity?)
Alkazar: Wanted a housemaid, and some cash from pig if her got to watch them get it on

ANYMORE HERE!!! HUH!!!

ONE EYE=NO CHOICES, she is a one eyed freak, and not just a normal person who lost one, a cyclops! she will NEVER get an IMPORTANT or RICH or NICE guy besides fry, all i want to know is why the writters keep the character blind to this kind of a realization.

PS i seem to have gone to the dark side, but i have not, i figured this little number out, and just had to post it somewhere    i DO still kinda like futurama

Whoa, holy shit. Chill out, GEEKTAK.


I think Leela likes Fry but doesn't want to admit it. Maybe her experiences with dating other guys has her worried that Fry might break her heart too?

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Hey, that's an insult to geeks.   
But um yeah.  Welcome, offspring-of-Fry!  May you eat many watermelons without swallowing the seeds.

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Originally posted by Fry's Daughter:
 I think Leela likes Fry but doesn't want to admit it. Maybe her experiences with dating other guys has her worried that Fry might break her heart too?

Or that she's in love with a guy who would baste a chicken on his head, is a slob, is a goof (a loveable one but still a goof), among other things most women wouldn't find attractive that I can't think of. I think secretly Leela really likes Fry when he is emotional and caring. Those rare, sappy moments they spend together are the ones she remembers

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I think I would love a man who would randomly eat his cereal off his head and told me constantly that he loved me.  What the hell is wrong with her?
Warm up to him already... its been four years...  Maybe she fears commitment.
Nothing (before she met Fry) had been very stable for her.  She couldn't even make the decision to quit her job for herself.  Maybe Fry's spontaneity scares her away, when she could be looking for something more stable?

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Originally posted by Sil:
 Yeah, but think about it.  We all know that that final episode was written by Ken Keeler, and judging by the quality of some of his previous works, on both Futurama and the Simpsons, the ending will probably be relatively dark.  I mean, think about the ending of "Time Keeps On Slippin'" (3ACV14).  There was a big romantic story going on, with Fry making a genuine, hardworking effort to win Leela, but that ending (while I think it was absolutely perfect) was incredibly dark - all that effort and heartache Fry had gone through came to nothing. 

We know that something is supposed to happen between them in The Devil's Hands... but going by Ken Keeler's previous record, I wouldn't expect it to be all love and light, either.

i dont think it was dark just sad.

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@Femjesse, I don't know if its a fear of commitment as it is Leela's fear of unknowns.  The unknown of, can Fry really have the ability to be able to have a serious relationship with me, or he "says" he loves me, but after we're together, will it be, he's feeling constricted in this relationship, let's see other people.

Leela's just as scared as most people are that have gotten close to love's flame, only to have been burned by it.  Of course for any shippers watching, it's like, why haven't they gotten together yet?!

(Tears hair out, gnashes teeth, etc.) 

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She's a skank

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Originally posted by Anarchist:
No, that would be just plain corny. And I say that as a shipper.

Okay, i lose.  still, shippers want to see them get together, correct?  i'm not saying end it saying: and they lived happily ever after" i'm saying leave a lasting impression.  and i'm sure the staff will do that.

i've already posted why she flirts with fry- but dosen't anyone like seeing that or am i alone? how can someone be a shipper if they don't like seeing that?

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Uh, they can't. If you don't like seeing Fry+Leela moments, you are not a shipper. (Unless you go for that whole Amy+Kif thing, or you want to see the big Hermes+Zoidber wedding that the whole series has been leading up to.)

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Originally posted by Anarchist:
or you want to see the big Hermes+Zoidber wedding that the whole series has been leading up to.)

Um, that's just really weird. Thanks for the mental image 

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I think Leela should get together with Bender...

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the last episode will be dark and sad, no doubt about it, it will be all touchy feely and good for shippers until the last minutes where leela will be all like, fry, i like you and all, but i think we should see other people, then fry is devastated, amy dumps kif because he is a FREAK!!! and fry lives happily ever after with his hot rich asian girlfiend soon to be wife and leela lives a sad sad life thinking about what could have been with fry and how happy he is with amy now and how she wished she had happiness too as she goes from useless boyfrind to uselsss boyfriend never finding happyness

never more, nevermore....

there, dark enough for ya! seems ken keeler style what with the black holes devouring peoples hopes and dreams and leaving puppies to starve to death in the streets....i hate that guy....

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*ships some cheese to Russia to go with getak's whine*

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Geez, Getak, you're more of a pessismist(sp?) than me. Hurrah! Someone's worse than me! someone's worse then me! Conga line right here! 

Really Getak, take my advice and listen carefully cause I'm only gonna say it once.

"LIGHTEN UP!"

There, now you can go back to your plan of leaving.

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I think that its just that she liked being asked so much and she thinks she has time whenever she wants to date cuz he will never give up

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Fry & Leela are flawed characters, which is what makes them so compelling.
I relate better to Leela's character than Fry's, so I'll leave his psychoanalysis to someone else.
Leela's other faults aside, she takes having Fry and his affection around, for granted.
I suspicion the latter bit of this will be put to the test in TDHAIP.

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well that just came out of my mind because i dont know sh!t about Psicology

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Getak: I'm tired of you shippers and your yapping!  All you ever do is talk about why Leela flirts with Fry, and you just won't accept the fact that their relationship, and Futurama in general, is doomed!  Well I'm running away from this dead end forum!  I know there's a place for people like me with new ideas.  There has to be!
PEELers: Fine, get going!
Getak: Oh I'm going!  You're gonna be all "Where's Getak? I miss Getak."
PEELers: We won't know that until you leave.
Getak: Oh, I'm leaving!
PEELers: There's the door.
Getak: .............I'll be good.

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you better be!

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Originally posted by Killerfox:
well that just came out of my mind because i dont know sh!t about Psicology

Yeah, you don't even know how to spell it. *Psychology*

It's true that Leela takes Fry pretty much for granted. She's more emotional than the others during times where it's revealed he won't wait or be around forever.

Name one relationship where Leela hasn't turned an envious eye to the new couple. Hard isn't it? Unfortunately when she realizes these emotions, it's too late to do something about it in her mind. When they break up, (usually due to some stupid thing Fry does) Leela is reminded of Fry's faults and pushes her emotions back again.

Fry, for the most part, appears your typical male. Males get a bad rap as being unable to commit and after only one thing. Let me tell you, women want it just as badly and if society hadn't screwed everybody up, we'd all have no problems with this. We'd be able to do what we're genetically programmed for.

Fry is trying to be true to his nature which society teaches is wrong. As far as societial morals go, he can really only commit to one woman and he has chosen that mate to be Leela. That is the core problem with his other relationships. They're not who he desires. Leela can't see it this way because she doesn't have that insight. All she sees is a man that can't keep a relationship, therefore there's something wrong with him.

Biologically, women seem to look for men who will commit and help raise future children. Fry doesn't seem to be one of them. It's kind of humorous when you consider that commitment isn't a male's biological need. We are driven to go forth and multiply.

Obviously, we can be taught to act against these biological directives, but I think it would be a much better world if we didn't.

So this romance thing as we know is a struggle to balance our needs against society morals and rules. Fun huh? I may be missing some concepts here, I'm just providing a viewpoint.

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see i dont even know how to spell it!

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Originally posted by Allen:

Obviously, we can be taught to act against these biological directives, but I think it would be a much better world if we didn't.

[Leela]
Yo, I don't agree with that.  I don't want to think I'm settled down with a guy, get married, pop out a kid or three, then have him use that lame excuse to run out on me.

[Jesse]
Its true that men are programmed for polygamy, but I don't think the world would be a better place if everyone practiced it.  There would be widespread diseases and droves of deadbeat dads.  You're leaving all shreds of responsibility on the shoulders of women.  Even the strongest of women will waver under pressure... [/Leela]

If people start agreeing with you, I will be inclined to borrow my friend's gun and eat a high velocity lead dinner. [/Jesse]

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I didn't say it was perfect, but it sure is better than walking on eggshells on the sex issue.
There has to be a reason nature's like this and there are exceptions to every "rule" Men aren't all jerks (despite what popular media says)

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What about blowing it off as a quaint biological need and move on some? Nature is like that because reproduction used to be the whole point. Well we can think and do now so it's kind of inane. The 1st world society is wayt to hung up on Sex these days. Sex isn't that great. I mean it's OK once in a while I guess. But there's a real life outside the Bedroom. And you're there for more of your time when you're awake. And yes I do say this with a fully functioning Endocrine system if you get my meaning.

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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
Also she's a sucker for sweet stuff(so I am, but aren't we all?).

no. im not.

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Originally posted by zozer:
 no. im not.

Oh, yes you are.

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Originally posted by mazaite:
What about blowing it off as a quaint biological need and move on some? Nature is like that because reproduction used to be the whole point. Well we can think and do now so it's kind of inane. The 1st world society is wayt to hung up on Sex these days. Sex isn't that great. I mean it's OK once in a while I guess. But there's a real life outside the Bedroom. And you're there for more of your time when you're awake. And yes I do say this with a fully functioning Endocrine system if you get my meaning.

(several men in univoice):there is??

You are right its great to have once in a while but its like evrything, if you have too much man you are lost.

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Originally posted by mazaite:
What about blowing it off as a quaint biological need and move on some? Nature is like that because reproduction used to be the whole point. Well we can think and do now so it's kind of inane. The 1st world society is wayt to hung up on Sex these days. Sex isn't that great. I mean it's OK once in a while I guess. But there's a real life outside the Bedroom. And you're there for more of your time when you're awake. And yes I do say this with a fully functioning Endocrine system if you get my meaning.

Well, to that I'd say that it is not just some quaint biological need.  If there is any truth to the theory of evolution, we presently living humans are the product of about two-billion years of screwing.  Every creature in the animal kindgom came about by the sexual intercourse of two adults.  I don't think one can truly overstate it's importance to life; comparable to drinking, eating, and sleeping (not even all creatures sleep).

I'm done.

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Back on topic...

Fry is undoubtedly head-over-heels in love with Leela.  She certainly cares for him as well, but the jury is still out as to the nature of that caring.  Personally, with 2 episodes to go, I think she - yes - has the beginnings of love for Fry.

In a great many ways, Fry and Leela are opposites of each other.  She tends to be intelligent, tough, disciplined, mature, and capable, whereas Fry is rather stupid, immature, irresponible, incapable, and sloppy.  On the OTHER hand, Fry is also easy-going, expressive, and spontaneous while Leela is awkward, reserved, and bottled-up.  In other words, Fry is free in a (good) way that she is not.

I think the vital bit are the virtues that they share in common.  Both are very empathic, loyal, honest, caring, adventurous, and friendly characters.  They are both - to a degree  - both brave and reckless.  When it comes down to do-or-die, they both have been willing to rise to the challanges, and have been willing to sacrifice themselves for the other.  I'm no counselor, but I know that a little common ground can go a long way, especially when those things shared are admirable virtues.

I know how corny this rant is, but I have plenty of company in these forums.

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Originally posted by Monty Carlo:
 Well, to that I'd say that it is not just some quaint biological need.  If there is any truth to the theory of evolution, we presently living humans are the product of about two-billion years of screwing.  Every creature in the animal kindgom came about by the sexual intercourse of two adults.  I don't think one can truly overstate it's importance to life; comparable to drinking, eating, and sleeping (not even all creatures sleep).

I'm done.

That's all well and good for some. But Humanity doesn't concern itself with constant reproduction. Sex stoped being a major part of my life 9 months before I was born. And unless I intend to have a kid at some point it will never be that far up on my list of things to want to do in a day. Thanks to the damn '60's we as a culture have all become way to obsessed with sex.
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Michael Zaite

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The whole point of human civilization is to cheat natural selection.

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Originally posted by Tjoppen:
The whole point of human civilization is to cheat natural selection.

I don't think it's cheating natural selection. Technology allows the weak, infirm, and otherwise hopeless genomes thrive. That means more individuals to gennerate offspring. It's the natural course of things. Technology is as natural as the oposable thumb.

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Originally posted by Monty Carlo:
I know how corny this rant is, but I have plenty of company in these forums.

Yes, it is true. 

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ahhh..now this thread is getting somewhere I can talk about!

actually, when you come right down to it, humans are indeed the weakest mamals on the earth. just think for a second here, we have NO real claws, NO sharp canines or fangs, we DO NOT run all that fast, and compared to most other mamals, we are weak physically...BUT....we excell in two VERY crucial places 1) opposable thumbs 2) we have BRAIN POWER, yes, unlike all other creatures on earth we have the power to make tools, really really good tools, 100,000 or so years ago there was the war of the neandertal and cro magnon man, the neandertal were stronger in both number and physical being, but the cro magnon (us) were smarter and more creative, we had spears with stone tips and other cave man weapons like rock slings and stuff, eventually we drove the neandertal man, our rivals, to extinction along with mamoths...but that is besides the point.

through our weakness we are strong, if we had sharp claws, fangs of the sabre tooth, speed of the chetah, and strength of the...whatever...would we have ever created the bow and arrow? the gun? would we have had to figure out how to fend for ourselves by using our minds? in short, no.

nerds are CEO's of fortune 500 companies, jocks are the janitors.

through our weakness, we become strong. so i thank thee opposable thumb and brain for giving our species the ability to be the most dangerous preditor on earth and the ability to shape our own planet the was WE see fit.

i'm done.....

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Originally posted by mazaite:
   
That's all well and good for some. But Humanity doesn't concern itself with constant reproduction.

Humanity doesn't, but nature does.

We can busy ourselves making music, making films, writing novels, plays, screenplays or poetry, or even just talking about plays, stories, music etc. created by someone else, you might even care about making money but nature don't give a flying...

well, that's what I'm talking about.

A successful genotype is one that belongs to someone who has children. All of the above might increase your chances, and that might even be what you do it for (it's certainly why I taught myself to cook), but whatever your intention, mother nature's is one and one only, she wants you to reproduce and reproduce with someone who is fertile and has good survival traits. If you don't as far as she's concerned you're a failure in the evolutionary sense.

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it has gone off topic

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Originally posted by BrainDeadZombie:
>...but whatever your intention, mother nature's is one and one only, she wants you to reproduce and reproduce with someone who is fertile and has good survival traits. If you don't as far as she's concerned you're a failure in the evolutionary sense.

In the biological evolutionary sense. It's not all about biology anymore. We surpassed that long ago. I may never produce an offspring but I am (And all of us are) capable of creating an Idea that can live on far longer then I can. If I created a cure for cancer do you think it would stop being used when I die? No it itself would be used and evolved long after the last full remnant of my genome is broken down in a worms gut. We have moved far beyond simple Biological. Mother Nature be damned. It's our time now.