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Cami

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« on: 07-17-2003 10:11 »

How come in some episodes Leela and Fry are always with each other and In War is the h word, he says that he has this thing for his coworker and she says"she sounds sweet" but in others she denyes him for a date
Speli

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« Reply #1 on: 07-17-2003 10:15 »

Character relationship growth?
Gocad

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« Reply #2 on: 07-17-2003 10:20 »
« Last Edit on: 07-17-2003 10:20 »

I think she likes being admired by Fry, but doesn't want to go out with him since it seems that she wants someone more important, like a Senator or Mayor's Aide or a at least someone who is rich, like a real Doctor.      smile
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #3 on: 07-17-2003 10:36 »

Character developement and she probably has a crush on him.  Also she's a sucker for sweet stuff(so I am, but aren't we all?).  And like Gocad said, she likes to be admired by him.
getak2003

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« Reply #4 on: 07-17-2003 10:39 »

yeah right, whatever, go try and get a decent guy one eyed freak! like it will ever happen. she has ONE eye! can't they ever make her realise that SHE WILL NEVER GET ANYONE IMPORTANT if she was an alien, maybe, but a mutant? NO! Fry is the only one her seems to have feelings for her, that's it, everyone else she has ever gone out with never gave her a REAL romantic relationship:

chaz (aide guy): Just wanted to get laid
Brannigan: never scored before her, wants her ass
Sean: just using her as a trophy (who has never seen the guy who brags about dating the one eyed chick or chick with one tity?)
Alkazar: Wanted a housemaid, and some cash from pig if her got to watch them get it on

ANYMORE HERE!!! HUH!!!

ONE EYE=NO CHOICES, she is a one eyed freak, and not just a normal person who lost one, a cyclops! she will NEVER get an IMPORTANT or RICH or NICE guy besides fry, all i want to know is why the writters keep the character blind to this kind of a realization.

PS i seem to have gone to the dark side, but i have not, i figured this little number out, and just had to post it somewhere  wink i DO still kinda like futurama
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #5 on: 07-17-2003 10:52 »

Judging by many of the guys on PEEL, you'd think more guys in futurama would like her.
Venus

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« Reply #6 on: 07-17-2003 11:38 »

i think on some level she is interested, we have seen them connect, but i think there are 2 main things holding her back.

1. She has doubts about their compatibility. Which is a valid concern, i mean what really do they have in common? He is rather juvenile so she probably can't have deep meaningful conversations with him, which is what most women want. i know its what i want. it's not a matter of her having high standards or wanting an important guy, she just wants someone she can communicate with on her level. To respond to Getak's rather cruel rant, just because she was happy to have an important guy doesn't mean she won't date anyone who isn't important. I would love a rich,important,goodlooking guy, but that's a fantasy, not a requirement, but if i did get a guy like that of course i would be excited, as she was.

2. She is looking for a commitment. yeah the guys she dated turned out to be jerks, but she never knew it upfront. She discovered it later, and as soon as she did she dumped them. She wants a family and Fry hasn't really given her the impression that a commitment is what he wants. Look at all the relationships he has been in. Amy he left because she was 'getting to serious' he even said to Leela "i'm not a one woman kinda guy" that's not the kinda thing you tell the women your interested in, especially if a commitment is what she wants. And what about Umbriel? he said he loved her. So much in fact that he was gonna give up his life on the surface for her, but as soon as he figured out he couldn't score with her he went running in the opposite direction. that's not love. What if something happened to Leela and she couldn't 'perform up to par' would he leave her too? She probably thinks so. His relationship with the Lucy Lui bot could imply to her that all he wants is a sexual partner. Lucybot had no real personality of her own. She was programmed to find everything he did amazing and to make out. She had no opinions or ideas of her own, and Fry was completely satisfied with that. i would want my guy to be  just as interested in my mind as my body. And i would hope a truly nice guy would eventually get bored of a mindless makeout drone and want a real emotional connection. Leela & Fry are always together, i think it's safe to say that Fry is her closest friend. She may be afraid to risk that close friendship for a relationship that to her seems doomed to fail.

 and i don't think it's very fair to get pissed at her for it. If all you wanted was a commitment and the only guy that seemed interested is known for short mostly sexual relationships with no real substance would you jump in? Probably not. i wouldn't. yeah us looking in from the outside can see that they would make a great match but you have to see it from her angle. We know things about Fry that she doesn't. a lot of the truly romantic gestures he has done for her he did without her knowledge and some of his poorest romantic decisions he had right in front of her. Plus her history is full of guys that treated her poorly, its all she really knows, so there are probably psychological issues keeping her wary. People with emotional baggage tend to protect themselves more. If she dates a guy she doesn't know very well and it goes bad and they break up then she never has to see that person again, but she sees Fry everyday, if things went bad, if Fry got tired of her and left her and she had let herself fall in love with him, then she has to face that hurt everyday. of course we know he would never get tired of her, but that is all she has seen of his past relationships and has no real reason to suspect otherwise.
Anarchist

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« Reply #7 on: 07-17-2003 12:04 »

I won't even respond to Getak's rant.
@Venus: Your points are mostly valid, but as for commitment, that just doesn't add up. I think it's been made clear enough that Leela is the only woman who Fry WOULD commit to. Hell, he's already committed to her, and she's rejected him at nearly every opportunity. After all that, he still loves her and still wants to be with her. If that's not commitment, I don't know what is. This should be almost as apparent to Leela as it is to us, especially after his actions in times like the oxygen scene of "Love and Rocket", and, most notably, "The Sting".
Venus

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« Reply #8 on: 07-17-2003 12:19 »

you always want what you can't have. And when you get it you eventually want the next step up. She may be afraid that if he did get her he would eventually lose interest and it's the fact that he can't get her that is keeping him interested. it's why some girls feel the need to play hard to get. The basic idea is the harder you are to attain the more alluring you are. I'm not saying that leela is leading him on or anything, just that she doesn't completely trust that he would want her permanatly. And as for his show of commitment in L&R and TS i agree with you and ever since those eps she has been more receptive, she's warming up to him she's just having trouble taking that final step. but she is slowly heading in that direction.
aussie dude

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« Reply #9 on: 07-17-2003 12:20 »

I've got to say the reason she does it is obvious and occurs in real life all the time, she does it because
1 Like all women she is a sadist and enjoys torturing men
2 She lobes the power she has over him bending her to her will (like all women do)
3 She thinks she can do better but enjoys she attention and doesnt wamt to lose a slobbering sycophant
4 She is keeping him keen so that he can be her 'Safety Guy' in case she doesnt snag anyone better
Now this may seem like women bashing but hell its all true
*sits back and waits for castration*
Allen

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« Reply #10 on: 07-17-2003 12:20 »
« Last Edit on: 07-17-2003 12:20 »

Anarchist and Venus: I agree with both of you. Fry's done many sweet things for her recently. Those other relationships weren't meant to last. It should be known the last thing a guy wants is to appear too desperate and pathetic. These other relationships satisfy the "needs" but I believe if he got with Leela, he would be true to her. It also seems to me that this is the first time Fry has felt this way. I can't really say he loved Michelle and that's the only woman we know he's dated before Leela came along. 
Chump

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« Reply #11 on: 07-17-2003 13:31 »

Just like to point out, Fry isn't the only one with feelings for her... what about the Zapper?
Venus

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« Reply #12 on: 07-17-2003 13:45 »

desire to do the worm isn't a feeling.
Chump

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« Reply #13 on: 07-17-2003 13:58 »

It could be. For guys it is.
Wonderbee31

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« Reply #14 on: 07-17-2003 14:51 »
« Last Edit on: 07-17-2003 14:51 »

I find my self agreeing with Venus, Anarchist, and Allen on several points here.  Leela has been hurt several times over the years, and she is leery of what may or may not be a good relationship with Fry.  I do think that she has warmed up to him a lot more over the years though, and would say that the best hint of their having a good relationship came out in The Farnsworth Parabox, when she not only saw that the alternate Fry and Leela were married, but she decided to give him a more than fair chance, ie. the let's just say it's heads line, which meant to me that she wanted to at least make that first step. I would think that for Leela, that meant a lot to her, to be able to take that moment, rather than just trust it to the whims of fate.
Cube_166

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« Reply #15 on: 07-17-2003 16:24 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
desire to do the worm isn't a feeling.

Fry: then you make up some feelings and tell her you have them.
Zoidberg: is desire to mate a feeling?
getak2003

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« Reply #16 on: 07-17-2003 16:52 »

wow, do i know how to spice things up or what?

anyway, it is not that i hate futurama, i have just stopped caring. i doubt i will be posting very often until maybe the day of the new episode to find out what it is and whether or not it is good.
Atticus

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« Reply #17 on: 07-17-2003 18:33 »

A possibility could be that Leela really does care for Fry, but she is just too proud to admit it.  She has very high standards, and she feels since Fry doesn't really meet those standards, she thinks that a relationship wouldn't work out.  It's this mentality that keeps Leela from expressing her true feelings for him, and to give him a chance. 
In "The Farnsworth Parabox" Leela from the paralell universe DID give Fry a chance.  And they ended up getting married!
mazaite

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« Reply #18 on: 07-17-2003 18:57 »
« Last Edit on: 07-17-2003 18:57 »

I can see this topic draws out some personal issues here. I'd like to agree with folks like Venus, Wonderbee31, and Atticus. And I'd say to Getak2003 some very insightfull things in regard to the pshycology of a person with a visable Birth Defect in regards to self image. (from personal experience)

But the real awnser, unfortunately, Is Writer inconsistancy and it's all over Futurama and always has been. It's probably due to the fact that Futurama's audience is mostly from Sci-Fi stock. And when you come from a show Like Babylon 5 it's hard to rationalise out inconsistant whims of various writers.
But it's clear that Venus, Wonderbee31, and Atticus's ideas are mosst likely part of the Writer Bible for the characters. And so by definition are the "Pshycology" behind their actions, In a loose sense.

And to Getak2003 Just chill. We all go through disintrested piriods in shows. And the impending and unfair end probably doesn't help. Just relax and don't let it all get to you.

Michael Zaite
Cami

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« Reply #19 on: 07-17-2003 19:06 »

 
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Originally posted by Chump:
Just like to point out, Fry isn't the only one with feelings for her... what about the Zapper?

"Zapper" Only want her by the looks not by who she is

  love
Allen

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« Reply #20 on: 07-17-2003 19:29 »

 
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Originally posted by getak2003:
wow, do i know how to spice things up or what?

anyway, it is not that i hate futurama, i have just stopped caring. i doubt i will be posting very often until maybe the day of the new episode to find out what it is and whether or not it is good.

Hear that sound Getak? That's the sound that no one gives a damn what you do. Just thought you should know is all. See ya.
Cami

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« Reply #21 on: 07-17-2003 20:23 »

Give me 5! I mean, good one!
getak2003

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« Reply #22 on: 07-17-2003 22:51 »

Feh, whatever.

and @some-guy-above-me
DISINTERESTED!!! OH I WILL SHOW YOU DISINTERESTED!!!

Futurama is DEAD!!! and if you know where my first line comes from, you know what show i have found to replace futurama, and guess what, it is 121 episodes and shows no signs of getting old OR cancelled!

Peace out, i'll be back after the next new episode airs...whenever the hell they decide to air it.
Spice Weasel

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« Reply #23 on: 07-17-2003 23:14 »

Please don't come back.  Just go and be a troll at the Hello Kitty board or whatever you have found.
Venus

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« Reply #24 on: 07-18-2003 03:02 »

yeah, it's kinda hard to miss an annoying egotistic plagiarist, so somehow i think we just may be able to find the strength to carry on without you.
Coop

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« Reply #25 on: 07-18-2003 04:20 »

She loves all the good parts of Fry, but we only get to see those things at certain times, I guess part if her just feels like she's better than Fry, its just sad that she'd wrather give every crummy guy in the universe a chance over Fry. But i have a feeling that in the ends all of Fry's efforts will pay off.  love


The official CARLITO of PEEL
Chump

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« Reply #26 on: 07-18-2003 15:40 »

You all keep dismissing Zapp. However, Leela certainly isn't the most attractive woman in the universe. Zapp could probably get a lot of women because of his position... therefore we can assume that he does care about more than just the vertical monster mash.
Anarchist

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« Reply #27 on: 07-18-2003 15:50 »

Zapp does not have the capacity for any feelings beyond pride, arrogance, and desire to mate. Despite her eye, Leela IS a very attractive woman, and Zapp considers her "his woman" since they did sleep together.
Allen

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« Reply #28 on: 07-18-2003 15:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Chump:
However, Leela certainly isn't the most attractive woman in the universe.

You take that back! We've never seen any side of Zapp that wants her because of other attributes. Every time he sees her, he asks if they can have sex again. We also see hints that Leela's the ONLY girl that's slept with him.

Chump

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« Reply #29 on: 07-18-2003 16:44 »

Indeed. So maybe it goes much deeper than sex, if he's so attached.

And no, I won't take that back. I'm not saying she isn't attactive, she is, but not the most attractive.
Coop

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« Reply #30 on: 07-18-2003 17:08 »

 
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Originally posted by Allen:
 You take that back! We've never seen any side of Zapp that wants her because of other attributes. Every time he sees her, he asks if they can have sex again. We also see hints that Leela's the ONLY girl that's slept with him.


Or Maybe shes just a really good lay...I mean, maybe shes the best in the universe.

  big grin


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Action Jacktion

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« Reply #31 on: 07-18-2003 17:44 »
« Last Edit on: 07-18-2003 17:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Chump:
However, Leela certainly isn't the most attractive woman in the universe.

I'm not saying she isn't attactive, she is, but not the most attractive.
Blasphemer!
Shadowstar

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« Reply #32 on: 07-18-2003 18:36 »

While we're on this subject, it's getting annoying that at the end of every Fry/Leela ep, Leela thinks Fry is a nice guy. But then in the next ep, she keeps on dissing him. It's just getting repetative. Fry needs some respect over myah!
getak2003

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« Reply #33 on: 07-18-2003 18:43 »

Fry needs to grow up and stop chasing a freaking cyclops mutant when he can find someone NORMAL and ACCEPTING
Chump

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« Reply #34 on: 07-18-2003 18:51 »

What do you mean by that? I not a Leela lover... I think Amy is just as hot, if not more so.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #35 on: 07-18-2003 19:49 »

Sorry, getak, but as Mr. Twig said, "Love isn't a decision, it's a feeling. If we could decide who we love, it would be much simpler, but much less magical."
Cami

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« Reply #36 on: 07-18-2003 19:55 »

We all know that the last episode, the season finale, Leela is probably going to kiss Fry, and they live happy for ever and ever  lol
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #37 on: 07-19-2003 00:40 »

^it may be corny, but it will bless shippers' hearts!
Denton

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« Reply #38 on: 07-19-2003 06:31 »

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:
   
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Originally posted by Chump:
However, Leela certainly isn't the most attractive woman in the universe.

I'm not saying she isn't attactive, she is, but not the most attractive.
Blasphemer!

LOL  laff  laff Send him to Robot Hell   laff  laff

-Oooh… A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-my-own-grandpa! Let's get the hell out of here already. Screw history!-
Anarchist

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« Reply #39 on: 07-19-2003 12:55 »

 
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Originally posted by Coop:
 Or Maybe shes just a really good lay...I mean, maybe shes the best in the universe.
Even if she is, how would Zapp know?
 
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
^it may be corny, but it will bless shippers' hearts!
No, that would be just plain corny. And I say that as a shipper.
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