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BendingUnit22

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« Reply #80 on: 12-05-2003 22:34 »

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet but I just watched Space Pilot  and when Leela is typing his info onto the screen is looks like she wrote down 24 for age!
Venus

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« Reply #81 on: 12-05-2003 22:46 »

i guess it's possible. According to the Futurama calenders, Leela's birthday is Jan 19 which would have made her 24 at the time of meeting Fry, so maybe he has a birthday that's early enough during the year where he could be 24 in the pilot and 25 by the time my three suns came around.
Roboturchin

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« Reply #82 on: 12-05-2003 23:14 »

Does abyone know how old Kif is?
canīt_read

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« Reply #83 on: 12-21-2003 14:05 »

hints at how old zoidbergs is:

(I don't know how to do spoilers so be warned)
The leader (of god knows what, possibly the town) that we see in 'Why Must I Be a Crustacean in Love' says the tradition of clawplack has been going for 19 years. That means that the mating season has to happen in intervals of a factor of nineteen (unless they also have clawplack during 'normal time', which I doubt). From how Zoidberg handles his rampage at the gym he this is probably the first time he has ever been affected by the mating season. ex: the professor has to explain to him what's happening to him, he at first thinks that it's fin rot (something like that).

    This still would need a few facts to fill in the holes. but so far we know that Zoidberg's aging is roughly the same as a human being's. If you don't understand how, just think about it logically, becauseI don't have enough time to explain, g2g.
Teral

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« Reply #84 on: 12-21-2003 15:06 »

"It's the ceremon of Claw Plach, where my species fight to the death over matters of honor. Also whether abbreviations count in Scrabble ... THEY DON'T!!!"

Sounds like Claw Plach is used as a mean of solving disputes between two Decapodians that feel their honor is on the line, not just over mates. They probably had some other way for deciding stuff like that before Claw Plach.

Since Decapodians die after mating, it would be perfectly logical that this was Zoidy's first Frenzy.  wink

Even if Zoidy is in his 30's we don't know how long a Decapodian year is. Could be the equivalent of 10 Earth years, or 300.

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canīt_read

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« Reply #85 on: 12-23-2003 16:46 »

 
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Since Decapodians die after mating, it would be perfectly logical that this was Zoidy's first Frenzy.   wink


actually, he could have just failed to find a mate last time too. just because they're still alive, that define how many mating frenzys have occured during their lifetimes.

of course, i've already explained how to know that this is zoidberg's first, so really this post's point only has a vague point... i think... very disoriented
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Teral

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« Reply #86 on: 12-23-2003 21:55 »
« Last Edit on: 12-23-2003 21:55 »

   
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Originally posted by can't_read:
 actually, he could have just failed to find a mate last time too. just because they're still alive, that define how many mating frenzys have occured during their lifetimes.

Eeeh, yeah, but you said the bad way Zoidy handled this frenzy indicated it was his first time through this stage of life. So either he had precious frenzies, and struck out, (and hence would be older than the intervals of frenzies, as well as  the tradition of Claw Plaque indicate) or he's just horrible at handling frenzies, in which case they're no indication as to what his age in Earth years would be.
   
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of course, i've already explained how to know that this is zoidberg's first, so really this post's point only has a vague point... i think... very disoriented
      confused
That's okay, my first posts were vaue and disoriented as well.     wink

Joking aside, I posted some rather valid objections as to why the age of the Claw Plaque ceremony has no merit regading the age of Zoidy.

Ofcourse all in good fun. Welcome to PEEL. Enjoy it here.    smile
luvnpeese

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« Reply #87 on: 12-26-2003 16:41 »

I think Fry was 25 at the beginning. Biologically, he would be 29 at the end. But they did fall into the Fountain of Aging, which probably screwed things up.

Fry? 29? Nah, he would be older than Spike! I don't want to think of him as that grown-up. :-p
Jitterro

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« Reply #88 on: 12-27-2003 16:17 »
« Last Edit on: 12-27-2003 16:17 »

Never mind...I was saying something before, but...er, never mind   big grin
PCC Fred

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« Reply #89 on: 12-27-2003 18:58 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Since Decapodians die after mating, it would be perfectly logical that this was Zoidy's first Frenzy.   wink

Given that Decapodians die after mating, it's possible that the Frenzy occurs only once for each generation, since all the young would be "born" at approximately the same time, and need time to grow up.

In which case it's Zoidberg's first and last Frenzy, and he's missed his one and only chance to mate with his own kind.
Teral

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« Reply #90 on: 12-27-2003 19:30 »

It's certainly possible, yes. But the Decapodian King said he had to live a life of celibacy in order to uphold his species crazy traditions. So he at least have experienced more than one frenzy, and he doesn't seem that different from Zoidberg (except being King, and as we all know it's good to be the king  wink ). So it seems logical that Decapodians have more than one chance at scoring.

Maybe a "three-strikes-and-you're-out"-system? Ofcourse if you make a homerun you're out too, so it's really a loose-loose-situation.
canned eggs

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« Reply #91 on: 01-22-2004 00:34 »

Speaking of baseball, I just bothered to do the research on this; it's been at the back of my mind for a long time.  In Luck of the Fryrish, we see Fry's birth.  Fry's mother is listening to a Mets game on the radio.  Here are som excerpts:

"Here's the 0-2 pitch to Kranepool. He's taking it all the way for a called strike three!"

"...and Grote leans into the pitch...it hits him! The Mets win!"

Jerry Grote was a catcher for the Mets from 1966 to 1977, and Ed Kranepool was a position player there from 1962 to 1979.  They were on the team together from 1966 to 1977.  Therefore Fry was born between these two years.

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John Pannozzi

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« Reply #92 on: 06-28-2004 20:46 »

The estimated ages of the PE crew after TML'sH:

Fry: 25

Leela: 25

Bender: between 2 and 6

Amy: the same as Kif

Hermes: The same as LaBarbera

Zoidberg: The same as before

The Professor: between 162 and 260


Other stuff:

The Futurama Y2Kalendar lists Lauren Tom's birth date as August 4th, 2980, so this could well be considered Amy's "official" birthday.

According to the screenplay/script for SP3K, Leela is 30 (as of Jan.1, 3000 AD), but it also said Fry's first name was Curtis and his girlfriend's name was Janet, so it prob'ly doesn't count.
germanfryfan

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« Reply #93 on: 06-28-2004 21:04 »

If Amy was 20 in A flight to remember, she can't be the same age as Kif, because from KGKUAN we know that his species needs 20 years to crawl back to land, plus Kif would have needed some time to get that high rank in the Doop. I think he is about 5-10 years older than Amy.

Leela was 25 in BBA, knowing that she has to be 27 in TMLH

Fry's birthday is the 13th of July 1975 (SP3000 Story board) he was 24 as he was unfrozen, and probably 27 in TMLH as well.

I think the Professor sad the truth in ACOMO that he was 160, he would be about 162 in TMLH

Bender said he was 4 in BL, his body would be about 5, but his head is 1055 years older (RTEW)

Zoidberg is by far too old for his species, he should have been killed by mating.

Hermes ??? I can't remeber that we get to know his age.

Nibbler, I can't remember his age, but it is written on one of the DVD-menus of Season 2, I think.

Cubert is 12, and because he is in the same class as Dwight I think he is 12 as well.
Alliteration

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« Reply #94 on: 06-28-2004 23:44 »

Hmm... I always assumed that they were stuck at the same age forever like everyone in The Simpsons.
canned eggs

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« Reply #95 on: 06-29-2004 00:21 »

 
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
Speaking of baseball, I just bothered to do the research on this; it's been at the back of my mind for a long time.  In Luck of the Fryrish, we see Fry's birth.  Fry's mother is listening to a Mets game on the radio.  Here are som excerpts:

"Here's the 0-2 pitch to Kranepool. He's taking it all the way for a called strike three!"

"...and Grote leans into the pitch...it hits him! The Mets win!"

Jerry Grote was a catcher for the Mets from 1966 to 1977, and Ed Kranepool was a position player there from 1962 to 1979.  They were on the team together from 1966 to 1977.  Therefore Fry was born between these two years.


Well, in another thread I elaborated on this.  Long story short, I looked up the box scores of every game in which Jerry Grote was hit by a pitch for the Mets.  Turns out the game Fry was born during... never happened.  Grote was never beaned in the ninth inning of a game the Mets won.  So no help with Fry's birthdate there.  But it's largely assumed that Fry was 25 when he was frozen.

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athena1999

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« Reply #96 on: 06-29-2004 19:52 »

Yeah, Hermes can't be 25, since I doubt he was five years old when he was in the 2980 Olympics.  He's got to be 35 to 45 years old.  As for Kif, his species ages 20 years as tadpoles, plus he needed all that time to be promoted to lieutenant.  Maybe his species doesn't age like us, and he could be as old as 60.
VoVat

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« Reply #97 on: 06-30-2004 20:55 »

 
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Zoidberg is by far too old for his species, he should have been killed by mating.

Harold Zoid and the Ambassador to Earth both seem considerably older, so Decapodians can apparently live much longer lives if they don't mate.  (But what kind of life is that? <g> )
John Pannozzi

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« Reply #98 on: 07-01-2004 13:29 »

 
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Originally posted by germanfryfan:
If Amy was 20 in A flight to remember, she can't be the same age as Kif
I'm saying Amy is the same age as Kif AFTER goining into the Fountain of Aging in TML'sH

 
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Originally posted by germanfryfan:
Leela was 25 in BBA, knowing that she has to be 27 in TMLH

Sorry to sound stupid, but what's BBA?

Also, after going into the Fountain of Aging in TML'sH, Leela says that she may be younger than she was prior to the effects of the Youthocizing Mud (so does Amy, but I think she's just trying to insult Leela again, but failing because Leela no longer is jealous of Amy).

 
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Originally posted by germanfryfan:
Fry's birthday is the 13th of July 1975 (SP3000 Story board) he was 24 as he was unfrozen, and probably 27 in TMLH as well.

I'm pretty sure Fry's year of birth was changed from 1975 to 1974 after the storyboard was done.
Rhodan

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« Reply #99 on: 07-01-2004 13:41 »

Amy doesnīt want to insult somebody, just lie about her age, thatīs simple. As for Kif - we were comennting that he is probably much older than Amy because of life cycle of his people. 
Shaucker

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« Reply #100 on: 07-01-2004 17:14 »

 
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Originally posted by John Pannozzi:

According to the screenplay/script for SP3K, Leela is 30 (as of Jan.1, 3000 AD) .

Hey, glad someone brought that up.
The line in the SP3K script was something like "I'm a loser: I'm 30 and don't even have a date for New Year's."

The writers prolly took it out so she could be closer in age to Fry, or something to that degree. Although it is something to consider, as it would explain why she's so desperate to find a man.

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I.C.Weiner

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« Reply #101 on: 07-04-2004 20:53 »

the main characters are 25 but when kiff was 20 he was a child
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #102 on: 01-10-2005 02:07 »
« Last Edit on: 01-10-2005 02:07 »

Here are my thought on the characters' ages

Fry: 25

Leela: 25

Bender: body 4 and head 1057 (from RTEW)

Amy: 21 (Either that or she's been drinking under age in many episodes.)

Hermes: 35-40

Professor: +160

Zoidberg: 30-40 (In IITM it was said he'd been working for PE for 10 years.)

Labarbara: 30-40

Zapp: 30-40

Kif: ? (I'm guessing if it took him 20 years to sprout legs, then he could be any age.)

Venus

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« Reply #103 on: 01-10-2005 02:26 »

Everyone aged during the series, so by the end of it Fry and Leela would have been around 28. I'm nt sure about the ages of the others.
David A

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« Reply #104 on: 01-10-2005 15:59 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Amy: 21 (Either that or she's been drinking under age in many episodes.)

Who says she hasn't been?

Besides, there's no reason to assume that the legal drinking age in the 31st century is the same as it is today.  For all we know, the legal drinking age might have been reduced.

 
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Kif: ? (I'm guessing if it took him 20 years to sprout legs, then he could be any age.)

We don't know that much about the Decapodian lifespan either, so Zoidy could be any age as well.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #105 on: 01-10-2005 17:41 »
« Last Edit on: 01-10-2005 17:41 »

@David A: In the Route of All Evil, Leela hints Cubert and Dwight that the drinking age is still 21.

Leela: Actually Dwight you're right. Alcohol is very very bad...for children. But once you turn 21 it becomes very very good! So scram!

   
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Originally posted by Venus:
Everyone aged during the series, so by the end of it Fry and Leela would have been around 28. I'm nt sure about the ages of the others.

Not if it's a true Matt Groening cartoon.  The Simpsons, Bart should be in his twenties.  I assume the staying the same age rule applies to Futurama.
Teral

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« Reply #106 on: 01-10-2005 18:11 »

Believe it all you want, it wont make it true. Groening have said the characters of Futurama does age.

And what constitute a "true Matt Groening cartoon"? The guy have made exactly 2 cartoons in his life. Hardly sufficient basis to draw any conclusions on what a "true Matt Groening cartoon" is.
David A

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« Reply #107 on: 01-10-2005 19:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Bumpy:
@David A: In the Route of All Evil, Leela hints Cubert and Dwight that the drinking age is still 21.

Fair enough, but that still doesn't prove that Amy isn't underage.  I doubt that she'd have any trouble getting a fake ID.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #108 on: 01-10-2005 19:50 »
« Last Edit on: 01-10-2005 19:50 »

@Teral: Fair enough, but the fact that Simpsons haven't aged in the last 15 years, is one of the main things I notice in the Simpsons.  And the Simpsons were created by Matt Groening.  So, I figured Matt or just the staff writers like keeping his characters the same age to prolong the series.  I figured the same rule applied to Futurama because they never really mentioned on getting older, only up until TMLH.  Also, where did Matt Groening exactly that the Futurama characters age?  On one of the commentaries?  I'd like to know.

@David A:  Maybe she was 21 before TMLH, but then became "younger" after TMLH.  Some of the things Amy did before she met Kif, tells me she had to be 21 or just turning 21.  Her birthday was mention in TKOS, meaning she could've turned 21 or 22.  I agree with you that she'd have no trouble getting a fake id, but I doubt she'd be smart enough to remember to bring it with her.  You know how she is, she didn't even remember to bring her purse in Bendfellas causing her to be unable to pay for just her meal to avoid prison time.


But I'm not 100% behind this theory, I just call it like I see.  The same goes for what I said to Teral as well.
evan

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« Reply #109 on: 01-10-2005 20:38 »

"Bendfellas"?

Amy is 21, because she's an intern at Planet Express and attends Mars University.  In American universities (which I assume the show references), the common year for internships is junior year.  That would make her 20 or 21 by the start of the show.  Unless she takes grad work with the Professor, she should have graduated from college by the end of the season.

But then again, it's just a cartoon.
David A

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« Reply #110 on: 01-10-2005 21:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Bumpy:
You know how she is, she didn't even remember to bring her purse in Bendfellas causing her to be unable to pay for just her meal to avoid prison time.

First of all, what the hell is "Bendfellas"?  Do you perhaps mean "Bender Gets Made"?

Second of all, she didn't forget to bring her purse.  She, like the rest of the characters, thought that Elzar was giving them dinner on the house.  She didn't bring any money because she didn't think she'd have to pay for dinner.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #111 on: 01-10-2005 22:09 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Hermes: 35-40
35 is too young for Hermes. In "A Flight to Remember," we see a flashback to twenty years earlier, and he seems older than 15.
Shippy Mandy

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« Reply #112 on: 01-11-2005 00:51 »

I think I have something of an explanation.

In A Clone Of My Own, which takes place in Season 2, we learn that the Professor is 160 years old. Two seasons later, in Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles, he's revealed to be 161. Therefore, I'd say that each season is about 6 months long within the show.

Therefore, as of TMLH, Fry would be 26 (technically 1026) and Leela, assuming she was being truthful about her age in Brannigan, Begin Again, would be 26 as well. I hope that helps...

(I'm new, by the way. I apologize if this post doesn't make any sense.  tongue)
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #113 on: 01-11-2005 01:03 »
« Last Edit on: 01-11-2005 01:03 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 First of all, what the hell is "Bendfellas"?  Do you perhaps mean "Bender Gets Made"?

Second of all, she didn't forget to bring her purse.  She, like the rest of the characters, thought that Elzar was giving them dinner on the house.  She didn't bring any money because she didn't think she'd have to pay for dinner.

My bad, I meant "Bender Gets Made", but I do know that the episode is also known as "Bendfellas".  At least that is what is mentioned at tvtome.  Sorry about that.

Also, Amy leaving her purse it based from this thread http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/3-000675-1/   other PEELers offer there reasons as to why Amy couldn't just use her money to pay for the meals.  You might want to post that related comments on that thread.

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:
 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Hermes: 35-40
35 is too young for Hermes. In "A Flight to Remember," we see a flashback to twenty years earlier, and he seems older than 15.

Your right, Action Jackton.  I can't believe I forgot about that flashback.  I change my thoughts of Hermes age to 40-50.  Labarbara still looks like she's in her 30's, but that could be from plastic surgery or something.
David A

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« Reply #114 on: 01-11-2005 13:23 »

 
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Originally posted by Bumpy:
My bad, I meant "Bender Gets Made", but I do know that the episode is also known as "Bendfellas". At least that is what is mentioned at tvtome. Sorry about that.

TV Tome is full of ignorance, just like you.

 
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Also, Amy leaving her purse it based from this thread http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/3-000675-1/  other PEELers offer there reasons as to why Amy couldn't just use her money to pay for the meals. You might want to post that related comments on that thread.

Hey, no thanks; I already posted it here.  I don't see the need to post the same thing again in more than one thread.

 
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I can't believe I forgot about that flashback. I change my thoughts of Hermes age to 40-50. Labarbara still looks like she's in her 30's, but that could be from plastic surgery or something.

Dwight is twelve.  I doubt that LaBarbara was as young as eighteen when she had him.  Remember, she was married to Barbados Slim before she was married to Hermes.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #115 on: 01-11-2005 14:58 »

Then I guess the future has done wonders with her look, and we don't know how long she was married with Barbardos.
Unknown

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« Reply #116 on: 01-11-2005 16:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Shippy Mandy:
I think I have something of an explanation.

In A Clone Of My Own, which takes place in Season 2, we learn that the Professor is 160 years old. Two seasons later, in Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles, he's revealed to be 161. Therefore, I'd say that each season is about 6 months long within the show.

Therefore, as of TMLH, Fry would be 26 (technically 1026) and Leela, assuming she was being truthful about her age in Brannigan, Begin Again, would be 26 as well. I hope that helps...

(I'm new, by the way. I apologize if this post doesn't make any sense.   tongue)

1. Welcome to PEEL.
2. There is no definite length of time that each season covers, but some dates are given or easily assumed;
SP3K: December 31, 2999-January 1, 3000
X-Mas Story: December 24-25, 3000
PYHOMS: February 14, 3001
ATOTS: December 24-25, 3001
L&R: February 14, 3003
ACOMO and TMLH are less than two years apart.
There is probably a more detailed chronology of time in the show than this, but this is all I could remember off the top of my head.
David A

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« Reply #117 on: 01-11-2005 23:24 »

@Bumpy: It's true that we don't know how long LaBarbara was married to Barbados Slim, but we don't know how long it was between her divorce from him and her marriage to Hermes, or how long she and Hermes were married before they had Dwight, either.  It seems likely that she's a bit older than thirty.

As for her looks, some people just look younger than they are.  Good genes and healthy living, I suppose.

@Unknown: "Bend Her" takes place during the summer of 3004.
Tongue Luck

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« Reply #118 on: 01-12-2005 02:34 »

But in the very next episode, in both production and airing order, they go to Roboticon 3003, which seems to indicate the year 3003. Between those and Where No Fan Has Gone Before's Trekfest 3002 (though that one at least makes sense in airing order), the 4ACV timeline is super difficult to track, making the ages that much more confusing.
David A

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« Reply #119 on: 01-12-2005 13:16 »

Maybe the episodes aren't always in chronological order.

I don't mean they were aired out of production order; I mean maybe they aren't in chronological order even when shown in production order.
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