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David A
Space Pope
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Originally posted by Venus: Because he might not have agreed to be frozen. We know that the falling into the crygenic tube was not an accident. Had Nibbler not been there it never would have happened. Fry wasn't destined to fall into the tube on his own he was destined to be pushed. Nibbler didn't know any of that, though. When Fry asks Nibbler why he didn't just ask him to be frozen, Nibbler says, "We were afraid you would refuse." Whether he agreed to it or not is not really relevent. It's relevant to Fry (or at least it would be if Nibbler hadn't erased his memory). It's also relevant to the question of whether the Nibblonians are more or less good beings who actually care about Fry, or whether they're manipulative bastards who see him as a tool to be used and nothing more. They could have asked him and then if he refused erased his memory and froze him anyway, but why waste the time when he was going in that tube one way or another? Yes, if they were going to erase his memory and freeze him anyway if he refused, then there's no reason to bother asking him, because that wouldn't really be giving him a choice anyway. That would merely be giving him the illusion of choice.
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Shiny
Professor
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Again, what Venus said. You're breaking your head against the brick wall, David, which is the worst thing to do when dealing with prophesy. It's not straightforward, it's a recursive process. It's like being God - it requires a light touch. Originally posted by Venus: By letting him grow to love the future, he'll be more willing to save the universe... Exactly! When Nibbler says "We were afraid you would refuse," Fry's answer is "Of course not, I love the future!" But he wouldn't have loved it if he hadn't been there for some time already.
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Shiny
Professor
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In fact, they'd have reason to think the chance of him saying yes vs. saying no was something like 5% to 95%.
And sorry, but if the choice was between moving one guy around in time and letting the entire universe be destroyed, I'd probably settle on the lesser of two evils myself.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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But Leela already had a bunch of kids with Kif. They might be dropping in any time. Not sure she'd want more.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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Krokei: I don't think Leela would bail on her kids after her childhood. And there is at least one one-eyed one who will probably wonder why it looks a lot like "Aunt Leela".
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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Not sure if Fry and Leela are destined to get married again. They already tried it once. Leela might not share your "Mayor's Aide" opinion about her kids. Besides she has a whole Blensball team there. And the whole thing about "The One" may not occur until they're Farnsworth's age.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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Or uncle/godfather, still don't think she could just check out on it. Then there's the legal system.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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You have a choice of legal systems, Kif's planet, Mars, or Earth since such things are usually under local juristictions. Even now just saying so holds little legal weight, God knows what a 1000 more year of law writing will cook up. Papers must be signed and fees paid. Don't know what Amy's parents would think about it either. The kids are no relation to them.
As the Simsmar Kif bore the young and Leela donated the DNA so it would be difficult to call Leela the godmother or aunt. Of course that was the role-reversal joke of the episode in the first place.
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FutureDramaQeen
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by Bishop of Fry:
My speculation on the subject:
Fry was to save the univerese from the brains and Leela and Fry were to become married. the child will then have the power of The One and The Other. The child will have a very powerful ansetry. He get the nasty in the past-y and the mutanats. Creating the most powerful and disturbing ruler ever. He will avenge his fthers trone as the liquid ruler. Then Morbos planet will destroyOmnipersi 8 (or what ever). both will die out i a great war. Earth and the nibloians will destory all hostile planets leaving a perfect universe.
So i think Fry and Leelas child will be the true savior of the fate of the future.
*WOW I AM SUCH A NERD* This is something like what I think might happen with Fry and Leela's kid. It would have strong mutant genes and would lack the Delta brainwave. Nibbler said at the end of TWOF 'We will' to Fry when he asked if Nibbler would need him again. But maybe Nibbler needs his super-powerful child to help save the universe in 3020. I'm writing a fan-fic based on this. I've put way too much thought in this.
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by PaulM: Having watched the episode recently, a lot of the kifpoles have Amy's klutzy traits as well. Klutz's with no depth perception? A swamp-full of predators? *Sigh* They're doomed... What? Me, cynical? Naah...
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