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Hedgecore

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« on: 06-21-2003 12:23 »

ok in a flight to remember heremes says he cant limbo because of what happened. it has a flashback and theres a blimp that says 2080 and hermes is 25 years old in the year 3000.so in 2080 he would have been 5 years old. its the clip where the kid says im just like heremes im just like heremes.

i just thought that was kind of interesting and i might share it with you guys.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #1 on: 06-21-2003 12:29 »

Hermes is 25?  No, I don't think so.  He looks about 25 in that clip.  The writers aren't that dumb.  And this should probably be in the Re-Check forum thingy, but I'm not a moderator. 
Sil

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« Reply #2 on: 06-21-2003 12:50 »

Yeah - where did you get that he was 25, out of interest? Logically he must be older - lets say Dwight is the same age as Cubert (12, I think, but correct me if I'm wrong) - Hermes would have been been only thirteen himself when Dwight was conceived.
Teral

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« Reply #3 on: 06-21-2003 12:51 »

Hermes is married, and have a son. Dwight looks around 13-14, so Hermes is propbably in his early 40's. I t would make him 20-25 in the clip, much more likely for a young athlete.

The only PE crew we know the age of with 100% certainty is Bender (4) and Farnsworth (162).

Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #4 on: 06-21-2003 12:57 »

Well, if you are not counting the chaacters aging by the show, Fry is 25/ 1025.  (If you are, he's like 28) That's pretty understandable.  In the future they probably go with 25.  But after Teenage Mutant Leela's hurdles, ages are arguable.

"I think I might even be a year younger"
Sil

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« Reply #5 on: 06-21-2003 12:59 »

Isn't Fry's age certain? I think it comes up on the screen Leela's typing on in SP3K as 25 - I don't know if it's come up in later seasons. I know it probably doesn't count because it's an external reference, but Matt Groening has always maintained that Fry is 25.
Sil

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« Reply #6 on: 06-21-2003 13:00 »

Sorry Hil - I didn't see your post, so I just pretty much repeated what you said!
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #7 on: 06-21-2003 13:04 »
« Last Edit on: 06-21-2003 13:04 »

Hey, no prob.  Know what, Sil?  You're like me- being very cautious, not wanting to get on anyone's bad side.  It's not a bad thing to have that!   wink

Oh, and use the edit button thingy, like I just did.
Teral

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« Reply #8 on: 06-21-2003 13:06 »

I checked SP3K, and the screen is too blurry that I can make it out, but it could be 25.

Ofcourse, this is only going by the show. If you included what Matt have said in interviews, Fry is 25 in SP3K.
Gocad

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« Reply #9 on: 06-21-2003 13:22 »

 
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Originally posted by Hedgecore:
ok in a flight to remember heremes says he cant limbo because of what happened. it has a flashback and theres a blimp that says 2080 and hermes is 25 years old in the year 3000.so in 2080 he would have been 5 years old. its the clip where the kid says im just like heremes im just like heremes.

i just thought that was kind of interesting and i might share it with you guys.

Hermes's age was never given. He obiviously older then Fry. Or when did he become the Father of Dwight? At the age of 15?
The Blimp said "2980". And what has this do with Fry's age?

Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #10 on: 06-21-2003 13:24 »

Well, we're kinda basing Fry's age with Hermes, Gocad.

Yes, my guess is Hermes is 43.  My mom is that age and I'm a little older than Dwight.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #11 on: 06-21-2003 14:00 »

The character guide at CGEF says that Hermes is 25, but that can't be right, for reasons stated above.

In "My Three Suns," Leela says Fry is 25.
Sil

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« Reply #12 on: 06-21-2003 15:19 »

When does she say that? The only thing I can remember about *Leela*'s age is that she's a bit older than Fry. In 2ACV02 (Brannigan, Begin Again) she says "I don't want to die at the age of 25" and Bender says something along the lines of "Unless we hit a time-warp I wouldn't worry."  Anyone?

Hil - I will next time!  smile

Teral - I had a look and sharpened up a screenshot in Photoshop - I'm almost positive he's 25.  He's bloodgroup B and full name is Phillip J Fry.  It's also got the dates of his "time in stasis" but I can't remember them off the top of my head, and I'm on a different computer.
M Jackson
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« Reply #13 on: 06-21-2003 17:42 »

This is going in a slightly different direction but if you want to be really picky and look for other Hermes plot holes in a Flight to Remember, consider this...
In the scene where the gang are running down a corridor as the ship is 'sinking' they get stuck as the door comes down. Hermes has to limob under the gap. But surely it would be easier to just crawl under normaly! And since it is easier to crawl through why get Hermes to do it, he's not exactly the slimmest member of the gang. Get Leela or Fry to do it.
Oh yeah, here's an even better way of getting through the door. In the episode How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back Bender showed he can quite easily walk through a door very similar to the one on the Titanic.
I know these points are meaningless, the way the problems are actually solved in the episodes have a better dramatic effect or comedy value, I'm just saying they don't hold up to much analysing.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #14 on: 06-21-2003 17:55 »
« Last Edit on: 06-21-2003 17:55 »

   
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Originally posted by Sil:
When does she say that? The only thing I can remember about *Leela*'s age is that she's a bit older than Fry. In 2ACV02 (Brannigan, Begin Again) she says "I don't want to die at the age of 25" and Bender says something along the lines of "Unless we hit a time-warp I wouldn't worry."  Anyone?
At one point soon after he becomes emperor she says "Does anyone else think it's odd that a 25 year old shiftless delivery boy could drop out of the sky, kill the emperor, and be rewarded instead of punished?"

"Leela's Homeworld" establishes that she's in her 20s, so if she was lying about her age, it was only by a few years, which seems kind of pointless.  And then she apparently gets younger after "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles," so... just say she's about the same age as Fry, it's easier.
Sil

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« Reply #15 on: 06-22-2003 07:41 »

Oh yes, now I remember! Thankies Action!  big grin I haven't seen either of those later episodes, so...
I just like the joke in My Three Suns where Fry says "I was delivering things before you were born.  I think I know what I'm doing." It just made me laugh that he was doing things before she was born when she's actually physically older than him.  laff
Hedgecore

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« Reply #16 on: 06-22-2003 11:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Sil:
Yeah - where did you get that he was 25, out of interest? Logically he must be older - lets say Dwight is the same age as Cubert (12, I think, but correct me if I'm wrong) - Hermes would have been been only thirteen himself when Dwight was conceived.

i was looking at the character bios thing on gotfuturama.com

spacepilot3000

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« Reply #17 on: 06-22-2003 14:01 »

Who cares about Hermes age? I'm just wondering why he kept wearing his limbo suit in the episode "A Flight To Remember".
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #18 on: 06-22-2003 19:12 »

It's his hobbie, I guess.

I think Leela is the same age as Fry, I think in one ep they said something like "we're just two 25 year old delivery employees" or something, but TMLH may have changed that.  I think the Futurama staff doesn't really want us to know.
Xmpel

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« Reply #19 on: 06-23-2003 01:24 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2003 01:24 »

In this show they age
there has been 4 production seasons so Fry is now 29 or 2, that depends on date of birth.

Considering Hermes he should be in his 40's.
BNLbum

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« Reply #20 on: 06-23-2003 01:50 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2003 01:50 »

 
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The only PE crew we know the age of with 100% certainty is Bender (4) and Farnsworth (162).


The super nerd in me is just DYING to come out. Bender is technically 1059 (3002-1947 = 1055, + 4 = 1059). Or at least his head is. And Farnsworth is "even older! Huzzah!"
FemJesse

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« Reply #21 on: 06-23-2003 03:55 »

I think Leela is thirty.  In the storyboards for the pilot she says she's thirty.
Gocad

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« Reply #22 on: 06-23-2003 05:31 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2003 05:31 »

We saw Leela's birth in "Leela's Homeworld":
"20-something Years ago.."
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #23 on: 06-23-2003 08:41 »

It depends on how you look at it.  If you are going with age as the show ages, she and Fry should be 28 or 29.  I still think they're the same age.
Margarita

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« Reply #24 on: 06-23-2003 09:34 »

Leela's 25.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #25 on: 06-23-2003 09:45 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2003 09:45 »

Yes, I think she and Fry are both 25.  I'm assuming they don't age with the show because The Simpsons don't.

Case closed.
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #26 on: 06-23-2003 10:22 »

Actually, they do age. When the series began, the professor is 159(Although he said he was 149, but was lying.),now he's 162. Then later in "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles", he became 164 from staying to long in the fountain of aging. Fry and Leela(Along with the other human character's. though not sure about Hermes.) are 25 at the beginning of the series. The later, they became 28 around the 3rd season(No birthday episodes though.) Then in the same episode (TMLH), They stayed in the fountain of aging for too little and became 26. Thus, that being their age right now. Whew, that was fun.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #27 on: 06-23-2003 10:35 »

Whatever, it's getting confusing and this thread was based on Hermes age which is most likely early/ mid forties.
Teral

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« Reply #28 on: 06-23-2003 12:10 »

Amy is younger than 25 in "The Series Has Landed". She's an engineering intern, and still attend university in "Mars U". I'll estimate her at around 20, maybe 21 in episode 2.

Hermes is definetely in his early 40's.

In "Brannigan Begin Again" Leela say she don't want to die at the age of 25, Bender say that would be impossible unless they hit a timewarp, indicating Leela is older than 25 at that point. Not much older mind, maybe even a bit younger.  wink Nah, screw it. She was 26 in the pilot.
Gocad

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« Reply #29 on: 06-23-2003 12:23 »

 
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
Yes, I think she and Fry are both 25.  I'm assuming they don't age with the show because The Simpsons don't.

Case closed.

You wish. Futurama is not the Simpsons. Time does go on in Futurama...
Teral

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« Reply #30 on: 06-23-2003 16:55 »

Case in point: Farnsworth.

"A Clone Of My Own": 160 years

"Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles": 161 years
M Jackson
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« Reply #31 on: 06-23-2003 17:28 »

The time frame in Futurama goes by at the same rate as real time. Season 1 is set in the year 3000, and by Season 4 it's the year 3004. In the season 3 episode (production season) Roswell That Ends Well, when they are going back in time there is a shot of a digital calender on the ship rapidly going backwards, but I starts at 3003.
Teral

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« Reply #32 on: 06-23-2003 17:34 »

Actually it start at September 21st 3002.

It would correspond nicely with the 2 Xmas episodes we've seen until then. "Xmas Story" = Xmas 3000 and "A Tale Of Two Santas" = Xmas 3001.

Looks like someone at Curiosity Company look out for these kinds of things. We should make him contact Braga/Berman and kick some continuity into their skulls.
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