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bassbender

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« Reply #40 on: 07-21-2003 22:34 »

I like the fact that no-one ages - It's a constant in my life - and hey do you really notice your friends or family aging?
Denton

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« Reply #41 on: 07-22-2003 04:41 »
« Last Edit on: 07-22-2003 04:41 »

 
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Originally posted by M Jackson:
True. But when you really think about that, it just doesn't work. If bender had been in the ground all that time then he wouldn't have been outside the suicide booth on new years eve to meet Fry. So the whole chain of events that led up to him being buried in the ground in the first place would never have happened! It's just one of those parodoxes of time travel. Although I like that clever plot twist , it doesn't hold up to any study.
Wait what's this thread about?

i am not sure what you mean by that but bender in the past (space pilot 3000) wouldnt been affected because he has nothing do with roswell, so therefore because bender's head of the future got left behind in the past how does that affect the bender from space pilot 3000??

i hope that came out right   confused    confused

-Oooh… A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-my-own-grandpa! Let's get the hell out of here already. Screw history!-
Bendertron

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« Reply #42 on: 07-22-2003 09:04 »

Remember he was frozen,tecnically,hes like 1000
BrainDeadZombie

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« Reply #43 on: 08-03-2003 00:03 »
« Last Edit on: 08-03-2003 00:03 »

   
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Originally posted by Denton:
  i am not sure what you mean by that but bender in the past (space pilot 3000) wouldnt been affected because he has nothing do with roswell, so therefore because bender's head of the future got left behind in the past how does that affect the bender from space pilot 3000??

i hope that came out right      confused       confused


Quite right. Sadly the human grammer of the c20th has adapted in favour of linear time and hence can't eloquently describe the point your making. Therefore to reiterate the point you've made I'll use the time travelling tenses as featured in the 4526ad addition of the OED which I have will am read in the Library of Tranqility during my recent trip into the future.

Benders head will has been leave in the ground, while to Benders head the Bender at the suicide booth has will being already. I hope that clears that up.
payn
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« Reply #44 on: 08-04-2003 07:34 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
However, with TMLH, I thought Amy's line "We're all a little bit younger" allowed them to revert back to the age they were at the begining of the series. That way, the writers could milk more episodes out without the crew getting old.
I thought that was just Amy being female and looking for any excuse to lie about her age....
Rogan

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« Reply #45 on: 08-05-2003 17:43 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
 Would you like a list?  I can think of three right off the Simpsons.

Unless you were referencing Animaniacs, then +100 Nixorbucks.


And add Kenny's deaths in SP...

ooy

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« Reply #46 on: 08-09-2003 19:37 »

remember when.......damn i forgot wait here till i remember
Idle Hands

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« Reply #47 on: 08-09-2003 22:38 »

Given that the series is finishing, the question of when to (realistically?) kill off the Professor becomes academic. But given the various technological tricks that can be pulled in this series, he could always be brought back from the brink.

I'm sure Fry has matured over the series. And if the characters' physical age subtly advances, it's a little difficult to tell since they're represented as unshaded cartoons!

Hey can someone tell me where Taronga's age was mentioned? I thought she was a little older than Fry at the start of the series, but it was just an impression.
Wonderbee31

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« Reply #48 on: 08-09-2003 23:50 »
« Last Edit on: 08-10-2003 00:00 »

Looking back now, Fry did seem a little more like a teen-ager when the series first started, but imo, he seems to have matured quite a bit, especially in seasons 3-5.  Maybe, with Leela's influence, he is finally starting to become the person he was always capable of becoming.

Oh, I'm not sure how old Leela is exactly, but while looking at the script and notes for SP3K, there was a cut line in it where she said that she's 30.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #49 on: 08-09-2003 23:59 »

Leela is over 28. See Brannigan Begin Again for confirmation. (See if you can spot the ONE LINE).

They DO age. See, the thing about Futurama is that it exists in the "real world" and therefore follows "real rules" (paraphrasing MG and DXC here).

The Simpsons is really no comparison.

The Prof. was probably scheduled to die at some point.

That's all I have to say. My work here is done.
ThreeDLou

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« Reply #50 on: 08-11-2003 13:49 »

I always thought that cartoon ages were the whim of the creator.  If Matt wanted them to age, he would.  And if he wanted them to age by a time other than linear, so be it.  Look at the newspaper comics that never age (Blondie, still hot after about 60 years.) 
Matt used to change Bongo and Jeff & Akbar at his whim to fit his Life In Hell comic.  Why should that change too much here?
Zykuro

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« Reply #51 on: 08-11-2003 17:24 »

Ok, I found the best way to describe the bender/roswell issue:

Imagine this :
Bender's head gets left from sept 3002 in roswell.
this is bender B (with memory of meeting fry etc)

bender B remains in roswell for all of the 20th century, right up including when bender (a) is manufactured (cant remeber off the top of my head).
At this point in time, there are TWO bender heads, one with knowledge of fry, one without.

they continue to co-exist, until the day on sept 3002, where fry causes the crew to go back in time, and bender head a gets left behind. technically, there should be TWO bender heads when they discover bender's head at the end of the episode, this is most likely just a script error.

so thus, bender B is discovered, and bender A is left behind, thus keeping the cycle of history.

I cant exactly explain it, but it works
Blue Zoidberg

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« Reply #52 on: 08-12-2003 12:54 »

I suppose i'd explain it by saying benders timeline takes a u-turn on Sept 1st 3002 and then loops, eventually running parallel to his own timeline until he overtakes it after Sept 1st 3002.

That made less sense than I thought it would but whatever.
helpimchoking

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« Reply #53 on: 08-18-2003 00:17 »

hey i need help!! i am really obsessed with the show, im realy obsessed! i need help! i luv the show! i wanna see the sting episode reall bad, and whoever made the "fry me to the moon" audio, that was really cute!! really really cute, but i luv it!!
Bobby King

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« Reply #54 on: 08-18-2003 15:27 »
« Last Edit on: 08-18-2003 15:27 »

well, thats offtopic 100%
frycutiepie

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« Reply #55 on: 05-21-2006 06:00 »

I thought he was in his teen's
Pedro La Loco

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« Reply #56 on: 06-16-2006 22:16 »

 
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Originally posted by frycutiepie:
I thought he was in his teen's

He had a job and a girlfreind and was a college dropout!!!!!!!!!

Leela Rules
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #57 on: 06-17-2006 18:44 »

I would say Fry's about 29 now. 
Dai

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« Reply #58 on: 06-19-2006 15:19 »

Personally, I do think the characters age but I think all of them except the professor got younger in TMLH, I really don’t want them to age though! I think there should be an episode where the PE crew fly to omicron persei 8 and find the secret for eternal youth.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #59 on: 06-20-2006 19:38 »

 
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Originally posted by Zykuro:
technically, there should be TWO bender heads when they discover bender's head at the end of the episode, this is most likely just a script error.

No.

Just No.

Bender in 3003AD goes back in time to 1947AD. Winks out of 3003, and exists in 1947 for a short time. Winks out of 1947, save for his head, and winds up back in 3002 as he left it.
So in 3003, two heads do exist. Up until the PX ship leaves 3003 and re-enters it. At that point, the only head around is the head in the ground. Which is dug up and placed on Bender.

From whenever Bender was made to 3003 (exit point) there are two heads. Well, one head. Existing at two points in space on the same timeline. Take a look at my crap diagram.


There is no "head error" there. Bender's head goes back to 1947 at the back in time point, removing the second head from the timeline, and putting it in the roswell desert. It now becomes the first head. The "second head" is gone, relocated to another temporal frame. The first head is then put onto Bender. In fact, only one head ever exists. It simply exists twice at the point shown on my timeline. It's a loop that doubles over  itself, but that doubling does not occur at the point that the head is dug up.
Pedro La Loco

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« Reply #60 on: 06-21-2006 00:30 »

What the post above mine says is true but it's not really necesarry to have the graph and such It would be easier to just say it then again I don't know how those guy's can make that mistake in the first place  confused
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #61 on: 06-21-2006 19:13 »

The diagram is necessary for two reasons:

1) I miss my crappy diagrams.
2) I wanted to post it.

3) Don't underestimate idiots.
Shiny

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« Reply #62 on: 06-21-2006 19:54 »

I like the diagram.  Visual aids are always helpful for complex explanations.  smile
Invader Jenny

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« Reply #63 on: 07-30-2006 11:14 »

Isn't there an episode where they go to Madison Cube garden and watch a big Ape fight or something, and on the marquee it says "Fighters of 3004".  Something like that.  I am positive of the date.  So fry is 29 now, and I'm guessing Leela is about 32.

And what is that line from Branagon Began Again that indicates Leela is 28? ...oh wait, is that the episode that Bender says "Honey, unless we hit a time warp..."
tyraniak

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« Reply #64 on: 07-30-2006 19:03 »

I've never really had any trouble believing Fry was in his mid 20s, I've known enough people around that age in similar situations involving limited education and shitty jobs
Benders_Fan

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« Reply #65 on: 07-30-2006 19:10 »

Well, anyone that stupid wouldn't seem like they were in thier 20's. But Fry kinda loks his age. I mean, I don't tihnk he looks that young.  hmpf
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #66 on: 07-31-2006 21:02 »

When I was little and first saw the show I thought that Fry was about 18 or so but just drank illegally. Not to give discredit to Billy West, but it could have been the voice that threw my off. He sounded pretty damn young.
TheGlob

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« Reply #67 on: 08-01-2006 01:20 »

Ya, Billy's voice threw me off too
SonicPanther

Professor
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« Reply #68 on: 08-01-2006 12:47 »

To me Fry as always seemed like h'es in his early 20's rather than mid 20's, but that's not much of a difference. I also blame Billy's voice. :P
Ballisticvole

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« Reply #69 on: 08-01-2006 18:14 »

The professor and mom have lived for well over a century but seem only half their age. Maybe the futuristic medicine means that people age at half the speed they do now.
Invader Jenny

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« Reply #70 on: 08-02-2006 19:57 »

And I'm pretty sure that the characters do actually age through out the show, even though they never make note of it (i.e. birthdays parties).  The only thing we have to go on is the actual progression of years Fry has been in the future.  The writers gave us his age in season one and assumed we could take it from there by doing simple math after each season.

They even allude to it in Insane in the Mainframe when Fry says "Wait, I do other human things!  I age!  *frames his face*  See?"
It may have been a cute joke, but it was also a tongue-in-cheek hint for the audiance.
Yo

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« Reply #71 on: 08-05-2006 17:46 »

I don't want Fry to get old! He's too cute!
KitKatBar-Fry

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« Reply #72 on: 08-10-2006 15:13 »

In short: If everyone was used to seeing Fry as an intelligent person, he might seem older. In PL, i though he acted like he was several years older. It's just his constant stupidity that makes him seem younger.  big grin
Invader Jenny

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« Reply #73 on: 08-10-2006 18:14 »
« Last Edit on: 08-10-2006 18:14 »

When is his birthday anyway?  In the script it said "July 13, 1975."  Now the date could work, but the year is impossible.  Mathematically he has to be born in 1974 even if it fell on January 1st; so I don't have any clue when his birthday could be.
KitKatBar-Fry

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« Reply #74 on: 08-10-2006 21:54 »
« Last Edit on: 08-10-2006 21:54 »

Remember, though, we first hear Fry is 25 from Leela in MTS. she could have simply been rounding up his age to 25.
Shiny

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« Reply #75 on: 08-10-2006 23:12 »

I think in the little display screen Leela is typing on in the pilot, his age is given as "24."  If we assume that My3Suns happened later than July 13 in the year 3000, would that not make the age of 25 work?  He would have had his 25th (well, 1025th) birthday earlier that year.

(Shiny does a quick consultation)

The box says yes!
Officer 1BDI

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« Reply #76 on: 08-11-2006 03:23 »

I could have sworn the screen said "25," but my television is small and my laptop is tempramental. 

Anyway, I always figured the first season episodes of Futurama were meant to roughly corresponded to the actual dates on which they aired (pilot and second episode aside, because FOX is stupid and premiered Family Guy first).  Love's Labours took place on April 12th (?), the same day it aired; "When Aliens Attack" mentioned the end of summer, which was close to when it aired (ok, maybe that's a stretch, but I remember someone from TFO bringing that up ages ago when this discussion was held then); "Mars University" aired in the early fall, a time when Fry could have easily jumped into the beginning of a semester; and so forth.

Of course, there's always the possibilty that I'm just using faulty logic to justify my long-held belief that Fry was 25 when he was frozen. :P
Invader Jenny

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« Reply #77 on: 08-11-2006 17:27 »

There was someone who did a timeline (it's on the main page), but never went back and updated it past season 2.  It was really, really detailed too.  They should go back and add more to it.

Also, the crew seem to be pretty on the ball when it comes to getting sports scores accurate with the date that they aired on.  During Fry's birth his mom is listening to some sports game.  If someone can find out what date those two teams were playing back in 1974-75 we could get an offical date on his birthday.
Futurama Llama

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« Reply #78 on: 08-12-2006 20:46 »

i checked. i don't know what the met's opposing team was, so im not sure. anyone know?
KitKatBar-Fry

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« Reply #79 on: 08-14-2006 12:47 »

nope  tongue
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