Xanfor
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Fry is not lacking in cerebral capacity, rather, he is unskilled in the manners by which he can put his capacity to use. He is not an idiot, thank you very much, he is simply a great deal ignorant and naïve concerning his surroundings. And no one, ever, seems to want to assist him in rising up out of the rut that his twentieth-century society had become ever so acceptive of. He's not dumb, his neurons are just "alternately networked."
Fry has many intelligent moments...like Bill and Ted of the most excellent adventures, he HAS a brain in there, but it spends most of its time in a blissful state of non-activity. This is indistinguishable from "stupidity" on the surface.
But, like King Arthur who sleeps in Avalon, in moments of crisis it will rouse itself from its slumber to burst forth upon the foes who menace his home and friends and save the day; and then, its quest complete, it retires again to its sleep of aeons and timeless dreams. Naughty nerdy dreams, no doubt, but eh, I'll bet Arturius Rex has the odd mental romp about Guinivere and her handmaidens from time to time as well.
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coldangel
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As Lars, Fry was smart enough to become a Cetacean... 'care worker'? And also smart enough to be placed in care of the preserved heads of important historical figures. Lars was also intelligent/suave enough to woo Leela, intelligent enough to put her needs above his, and intelligent enough to use self-destructing Bender (he froze himself, "decades" ago (from his POV) as an offensive weapon.
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coldangel
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True that. I've cared for a lot of people with Autism and Aspergers (real Asperger's, not emo teenage wannabe Aspergers). Compared to them, Fry is very extroverted.
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coldangel
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Someone with aspergers can have apparently normal social skills and they're often hard to spot
At least from a distance. I used to have one who was scarily attached to his routines to the point where he would go outside in the pouring rain to sweep the driveway of the group home because that was his chore for the day. And if the service car was in the driveway, he needed to get down on his hands and knees to sweep under it. He would become violent and destructive whenever a routine was thrown out, and a couple of times I had to stop him attacking other clients with a steak knife.
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coldangel
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Did a professional diagnose that, or have you just decided it? Because a lot of socially awkward people like to label themselves autistic or asperger's as an excuse or in an attempt to appear more interesting. They're usually emo teenagers without any real understanding of the disability who are actually devaluing the struggle of people who have the real thing.
Because see, 'mild autism' 'nothing serious' sounds to me like you're just a shy introvert. Which isn't a disability, just a personality type. An inability to read body-language could mean you spend too much time on the computer.
And all of those things are easily attributable to the fact that you're 14 years old.
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coldangel
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You know, I've been a professional in the field for seven years and I didn't know that last one.
Didn't really want to either, but thanks Arch - you're always informative.
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coldangel
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Sorry for posting twice but I have more.
Autism these days is really used as more of an umbrella term for a spectrum of different intellectual disabilities/psychological conditions, of which Asperger's Syndrome is one. The other main one is PDD-NOS, though others are sometimes included. Without meeting you, I cannot say if your Mum was being a panicky loon or if the specialist was just humoring her by saying "Yes, you're right - your kid is special ". (I happen to know a few specialists in the field of developmental disorders. They can't find their arses with both hands, thinking they can diagnose via a textbook when they actually don't spend any time with the people.... anyway...) Yes, what fistful said. Sadly this happens all the time. And introverts are frequently mistaken for Autistics. I think you'll be fine. Your Mum has probably put something silly into your head and you'd best just put it out of your mind.
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SpaceCase
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Where exactly does "Autistic Spectrum Disorder" come into all this?
[*SpaceCase leans into thread*] ... And on the eighth day, God invented the Internet...
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Svip
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Where exactly does "Autistic Spectrum Disorder" come into all this?
[*SpaceCase leans into thread*]
... And on the eighth day, God invented the Internet...
I've always suspected you were God, SpaceCase.
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SpaceCase
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I've always suspected you were God, SpaceCase.
First, (unlike Bender) my ego isn't big enough. Second, (unlike Al Gore) I didn't invent the Internet, and: Third, were I God, I wouldn't be COMPLETELY MISTIFIED by your arrival at that conclusion from the given statement. it's confusion over the conclusion...
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Svip
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I've always suspected you were God, SpaceCase.
First, (unlike Bender) my ego isn't big enough. Second, (unlike Al Gore) I didn't invent the Internet, and: Third, were I God, I wouldn't be COMPLETELY MISTIFIED by your arrival at that conclusion from the given statement. it's confusion over the conclusion...
You can still be my god.
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coldangel
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Your God is pretty cute. Is she single?
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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You can still be my god.
Pass. Your God is pretty cute. Is she single?
Why don't you ask her? Meanwhile, can we please get If anyone cares, I'll be under my rock...
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coldangel
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In conclusion, Fry could actually be smart.
Close topic now.
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coldangel
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I don't know what that is. I'll stick with my trusty IBM 407 tabulating machine. Valves are okay by me.
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