This thread is full of ship

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Following on from here

We may not have new content, but we can still reminisce.



Ships away!

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Man this thread is dead.

How do peelers feel about the Farnsworth/Mom situation? Personally, I think it adds a bit to the Professor's character, and it is sometimes fun to see, (particularly in Mother's Day and Bender's Game.)

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I think it, for one, serves the purpose of motivation for Mom to get involved with PE crew (this every time, it's personal).

"Situation" itself is funny and interesting. It makes a good plot and it's not overdone.

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I've always been amused by it (though not sure how anyone could "ship" for such a fucked-up pairing). It adds a little depth to both characters, and like QNF said, it definitely has its story purposes.

I'm also a really big fan of Mother's Day, though apparently I'm in the minority on that one.

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I think that's why people ship for them.  Because as you said, they're a fucked up pairing, which is quite funny.  The shipping for them comes from the humor.

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True, but I always considered "shipping" to mean that the viewers held some sort of emotional investment in that particular relationship, as opposed to just enjoying it for laughs.

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True, but I always considered "shipping" to mean that the viewers held some sort of emotional investment in that particular relationship, as opposed to just enjoying it for laughs.

Well....I know people who ship couples for a different kind of investment. 

But anyway, I think you couldn't seriously ship then unless you set it when their relationship was actually worth something, ie when they were both " younger" adults.

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I ship  fry amy and leela and fry
and bender and amy

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mm..

POTM material right here, folks. Nobody else bother posting anything, 'cause this guy's got it.

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Aren't all the relationships concluded now that the series has ended?

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Shipping has something to do with the series itself?

But, yes, obviously they are.

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Nice to meet you.

I'd always hoped to see Leela and Amy get together. See, as in watch it.

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Aren't all the relationships concluded now that the series has ended?

In a renewal, the writers might still go back to the "Will you got out with me, Leela?" "No, Fry, I told you we are just friends" status. Yet, I doubt it. Recalling the "Meanwhile" events in a new episode seems too much of a keruffle. (Rebirth's "We were on a ship flying through a wormhole" theme was much leaner).
So, to cut a long story short: A potential new season will probably keep Fry and Leela as lovers, and just cancel out the proposal.

I'd always hoped to see Leela and Amy get together.

They did so in "Bender's Game", the greatest of the movies, and an overall series Top 10 episode.

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I think they'd be more likely to simply ignore Meanwhile's temporal issue.

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you guys dont have a clue

meanwhile might have had fry & leela get married but he was forced into it. he's my man. i'm going to get him someday. show him what he's missing

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oh...

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Quickly! Ban it before it destroys our forum!

Also, I highly doubt this is the real Unmentionable.

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I am disappointed that the Zapp/Michelle relationship never went anywhere materialized.

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you guys dont have a clue

meanwhile might have had fry & leela get married but he was forced into it. he's my man. i'm going to get him someday. show him what he's missing

That post made less sense than this:

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I am disappointed that the Zapp/Michelle relationship never went anywhere materialized.

Well...the term "deserve each other" certainly applies to that pairing

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I'm all for the ship of Amy and the Bisque Guy.

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I am disappointed that the Zapp/Michelle relationship never went anywhere materialized.

Well...the term "deserve each other" certainly applies to that pairing

I would be quite entertained by a fic where the crew attend their wedding. I'll put it on my "to write" list.

I'm all for the ship of Amy and the Bisque Guy.

"He's not very ugly."

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I ship Amy and Bender. They were a cute couple while they lasted.

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I ship Fry and Bender. Think about it. They've been together since Space Pilot...


...all the way to Meanwhile...



...and every glorious moment in between.



Also, if you check Google Images for "Frender", TLF's drawing is the first thing that comes up.

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I've seen plenty of drawings and paintings and whatnot of Fry and Bender in a more-than-friends relationship on deviantArt. Nothing like rule 34, obviously.

Here, have some examples.

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Nothing like rule 34, obviously.

You aren't looking hard enough.

I like them as companions and roommates, but cringe inwardly whenever I see something more intimate than this.

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Oh, I wasn't sure whether you were serious about shipping them or not.  My Futurama shipping is a bit more boring and conventional

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You aren't looking hard enough.

Oh no, I'm almost certain there will be rule 34 drawings of Frender. I just meant not on deviantArt.

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Oh geez. Those gifs made me think I somehow ended up on a Tumblr page.

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almost certain

You're not certain enough.

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Why is Leela always shutting down Fry?     

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you guys dont have a clue

meanwhile might have had fry & leela get married but he was forced into it. he's my man. i'm going to get him someday. show him what he's missing

That post gave me cancer... 

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Join the club.

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I genuinely cannot stand Fry and Leela together.   I don't understand why we are supposed to be for the pairing and hate Michelle when Leela isn't that different to Fry.  She only really seems to use him for sed and her emotional punching bag and never seems to appreciate any of the sacrifices he made for her.  Leela is pretty nasty to people who are nice to her but fawns over people who aren't nice to her to a sickening degree.  It's about time someone asked "At this point is Leela worthy of a man like Fry or a romance like the one he is promising to her and will deliver?"

Fry almost seemed to imprint on Leela and he seems to idolise her rather then be in love with her, the same way he longed for his mom to be a mom and be interested in him.

Fry deserves a woman who loves him with t same unconditional devotion he shows Leela.  It's hard not to view Leela as the Daisy to Fry's Gatsby.

Thing is there are a lot of women and men let's be honest who would love to have a boyfriend like Fry, and would want to help him build up his confidence and talents and acheive his massive potential.  A bit of time in the gym, some evening classes and some new clothes and bingo!  The boy is someone you can easily take home to your mother. 

I really would like to see episodes with the two of them dating other people.  Thing is Fry has far more luck in dating then Leela does.  A lot of women of various species expressing extreme interest in Fry, for his charm and his looks.  Fry should be a very elegilble bachelor.  Not only that but men seem to hit on Fry far more then they hit on Leela.

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Totally agree.  Everyone is either a Fry or a Leela, and in that way, Fry and Leela deserve each other, and the world deserves itself, as it is full of Fry and Leela.

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Thing is there are a lot of women and men let's be honest who would love to have a boyfriend like Fry, and would want to help him build up his confidence and talents and acheive his massive potential.  A bit of time in the gym, some evening classes and some new clothes and bingo!  The boy is someone you can easily take home to your mother.

Isn't this basically the premise of "Parasites Lost," except that Leela doesn't have to put any of the work into improving Fry because the worms did it for her? And doesn't the end of PL demonstrate that Fry is in fact capable of self-improvement, and Leela is the motivating factor for those efforts at self-improvement--even if she is not explicitly "helping" him to be "better"? It seems to me the show has planted its flag firmly on the side of "Fry needs to change, but it's not Leela's job to do it for him."

I mean, I still think that's an inherently problematic view: ideally, Leela would love Fry for who he is.* But I also don't buy the idea that the role of the woman in a heterosexual partnership is to "fix" the man. (I also don't think that a man's worth is tied to extrinsic things like how he dresses or how jacked his body is or what have you--though obviously society tells us that a man's stock will go up if he conforms to specific standards of appearance, dress, financial stability, educational attainment, etc.)

*I think that's ultimately where the show lands, in "Into the Wild Green Yonder": Leela accepts that "you're you, that's all I need to know" and subsequently declares her love for Fry. Honestly, ItWGY subverts the original run's argument that Fry needed to change to "make" Leela love him: it's only when he's doing something genuinely nice and caring for Leela without explicitly hoping she'll fall in love with him that she finally admits that, hey, she loves him.

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I think it's more the opposite.  For me Leela constantly tears down Fry's self esteem in a way that really makes me dislike her.  Ultimately Leela doesn't just hold Fry back by emotionally bulldozing him into a needy mess, she actually holds herself back from.achieving her own happiness and success because she strikes me as someone who is afraid of change, and would rather keep herself and everyone around her miserable.  I don't see their relationship as very healthy and a lot of the time instead of coming across as this grand love story it just comes across as a deeply unhappy self loathing woman dragging a sweet young man who is full of potential dragging them both down.  I don't see their relationship lasting unless Leela does some.serious self reflection and works on herself.  The sad fact is Leela is an exceptional individual who has been made to feel like an unloved outcast that she is afraid of standing out in any way yet expresses deep dissatisfaction with her lonely, hating mediocrity yet desperately seeking it.  She is still the lonely little one eyed girl who is unloved and mistreated.  One of Leela's flaws is that she is actually a huge bully when she wants to be, and very neglectful of the emotional needs of others.  A perfect example of this is XMas Story where instead of getting upset at the crew who were completely oblivious to her unhappiness, she took it out on Fry who was feeling extremely depressed as it was his first Christmas without any of his family or friends from the twentieth century.  It never seemed to occur to her that he was lonely and sad as well, but no no no no it's always about Leela is Sad About Her Childhood again.  I can relate to Leela a lot but there are times when she reminds me of some people I just find too emotionally exhausting to be around in real life because if they can find a way to work their crap childhood into a conversation oh you better believe they will.  Leela is a complex character who has had more then her fair share of trauma and misery but she isn't the only person in the company who has had a shitty childhood: the difference is that Amy and Fry also had craptacular childhoods the difference is that they internalise their issues and while Leela has discovered that she had two parents who love her into infinity and are literally willing to die for her, Fry's horrid family are dead and gone entirely and Amys rotten parents continue to emotionally and verbally abuse her well I to adulthood.  Leela doesn't seem that bothered about her parents.  She seemed pretty content to let them rot in the sewer until she was banished there, and the fact that Munda was desperately longing to see the universe and was miserable for the want of it while her daughter is a starship captain... Well that says a lot about their relationship. 

Amy and Kif?  I adore their relationship with its ups and downs and the fact you can tell those two were made for each other.  It's interesting that everyone calls Amy a slut but she's in a monogomous long distance relationship with a man she clearly adores while Leela constantly looks for reasons to dump Fry and is constantly batting eye at any schlub or sleazeball who shows her the slightest shred of attention... Well. There you go.

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I mentioned this in the episode review thread, but it's not clear to me from "The Impossible Stream" where Fry and Leela's relationship "officially" stands, i.e., are they still engaged? The various promos make it seem like they'll soon be moving in together, so I'm sure we'll get a clearer sense of their status in the coming weeks, but I just wanted to register my confusion here.

As for "The Impossible Stream": While I continue to be pleased (as I was in season seven) that Fry and Leela are now firmly and officially a couple, I kind of hated how their relationship was written in this episode. The whole "I'll never support your dreams again" thing was such a lazy, tired joke—like, I get it, but I don't like it. Leela wailing on Bender for making fun of Fry also didn't land for me; I guess it was supposed to be sweet, like she was defending Fry's honor or something, but it struck me as somewhat out-of-character. Leela and Bender have an existing friendship beyond her status as Fry's girlfriend, so reducing their dynamic to Leela as Fry's Defender and Bender as Fry's Tormentor just rubbed me the wrong way.

I understand that this episode was only tangentially about Fry and Leela's relationship, but I guess that's sort of the point: while I'm generally fond of those episodes that take the 'ship as their starting point—"The Late Philip J. Fry," "A Farewell to Arms," "Fun on a Bun," "Fry and Leela's Big Fling"—those episodes that are less about Fry and Leela's romance and more about their day-to-day lives together sometimes falter for me, and this was one of those times. Surely there is a balance to be struck between "Fry and Leela are Just Friends" (which bugged me in season six) and "Fry and Leela are Deeply in Love and Their Every Interaction Must Convey That Deep Love" (which I felt like we were getting in this episode, at least with Leela), but I'm not quite sure what that looks like. Maybe I'll know it when I see it.

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I agree the relationship status is unclear.

One relevant line in the new episode was Hermes saying "You're not giving those girlfriend duties to me". Also, their marriage in the Meanwhile happened after they pressed the time-button, so I guess that would mean it didn't happen in the current time-reference-frame, or whatever you call the post-time-button-reset period.

At the same time, Fry's decision to propose - and the clam-fisted proposal attempt at Elzar's - happened before the time-button was pressed, so that must still exist in their memories.

What's especially unclear is whether Fry and Leela (and the Professor) hold memories of the time in Meanwhile after the timefreeze. The Professor's voiceover at the start of the show implies he has a memory of it, but that could conceivably be understood to be said before pressing the reset button. Fry and Leela (as far as I recall) make no mention in the TIS of the post-timefreeze events in Meanwhile. So, they may not remember the marriage.