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Eternium

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« on: 02-02-2013 19:33 »

if fry and leela ever get married, what do you expect it to be like? Idon't think it will be anything like 'when time keeps on slipping' I expect Bender to screw the while thing up cus he's afraid of loosing fry(like in jurassic bark). I also wonder where they would go live... leela comes in living eigh bender and fry? or they buy a new house? but since this is futurama: anything can happen at any time, for no reason! (just like quantum phisics:3)
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #1 on: 02-02-2013 19:41 »

Based on the ending of 'Overclockwise', it will be generally good. The foreshadowing from that scene can be interpreted in tons of different ways. I see it as one of them does something unforgiveable like blowing all their money on something useless or working for a rival of Planet Express. Then the other one would return the favor, in another move that is angering to the other down to the bone.  However, cheating would never happen between them. And in the end, they settle down and live their life together as they raise a kid or two.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #2 on: 02-02-2013 20:22 »
« Last Edit on: 02-02-2013 20:34 »

if fry and leela ever get married, what do you expect it to be like? Idon't think it will be anything like 'when time keeps on slipping' I expect Bender to screw the while thing up cus he's afraid of loosing fry(like in jurassic bark). I also wonder where they would go live... leela comes in living eigh bender and fry? or they buy a new house? but since this is futurama: anything can happen at any time, for no reason! (just like quantum phisics:3)

It depends how a wedding is incorporated into an episode.
- For a longer subplot, there certainly have to be several problems/shenanigans/mess-ups, to keep the story interesting.
- For a wedding just to cover the last minute as happy end, there is just room for a "I now declare you.." and You may kiss the bride now", before the end credits roll.
Fry/Leela love ending were always on a serious not, so a mishap involving these two characters seems implausible. Yet, some last second funny scene involving Bender seems accetable. E.g. TLPJF..Fry and Leela stood rather serious on the bridge, while the final joke (burying the corpses) was delivered by Bender alone. Also, such a "last second incorporation" of Bender is a valid reminder that Futurama is NOT the "Fry and Leelas relationship adventure" show, but does in fact feature THREE main characters.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #3 on: 02-02-2013 21:20 »

Quick, put the shields up before Unmentionable gets into this thread! laff

Anyway, I'm not sure. I can imagine Fry will be super lazy and Leela will have to shout at him and stuff, but overall they still get on (more than they do at the moment...) and love one another. Fry will do his usual "say the wrong thing but mean it in a nice way", so they'll have ups and downs and whatnot.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #4 on: 02-02-2013 23:29 »

There would be many potential storylines for that, but I think it doesn't belong to Futurama. Fry/Leela relationship will always be two-sided thing, it's not going to work fully.
But they will have their moments and in the end they end up together (when the series ends and Fry gets more mature).
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #5 on: 02-02-2013 23:34 »

If they go through with it, I'd prefer if it didn't feel like awkward fan-service. There's many things that could go wrong.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #6 on: 02-03-2013 00:24 »

I can imagine Fry will be super lazy and Leela will have to shout at him and stuff

"NOT NOW, LEELA..." big grin
El-Man

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« Reply #7 on: 02-03-2013 00:31 »

I honestly don't expect it to happen. It would change the dynamic of the show too much. I can see F&L getting together, but not tying the knot.

However, if Futurama ends with a real, honest-to-goodness, theatrical-release movie, all bets are off...
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #8 on: 02-03-2013 02:21 »

I don't know if Fry and Leela would ever marry for long-term anytime in the course of the series. If my predictions are right and Fry proposes to Leela in "Meanwhile", and the series does get renewed, then I could see a wedding in the series. But children? Good lawd, no. Maybe in flash-forwards or alternate timelines, but in the course of the series, it would just ruin Futurama's entire dynamic. Futurama is doing a superb job currently handling Fry and Leela's steady relationship and I think they could continue with this if the two were engaged/married with delicacy and grace.

I honestly don't expect it to happen. It would change the dynamic of the show too much. I can see F&L getting together, but not tying the knot.

They are pretty much already together. Aside from a few bumps ("Fun on a Bun"), looks like they are very much committed. And if they are already committed, it wouldn't really change things if they were married. It would just solidify their commitment. And again, children would ruin it. Not in the present timeline will children happen.

If they go through with it, I'd prefer if it didn't feel like awkward fan-service. There's many things that could go wrong.

The staff have handled the relationship very well in the last season, and I didn't really feel that there was any kind of fanservice (other than "A Farewell to Arms", and maybe "Fun on a Bun"). I'd be more concerned with other sorts of fanservice. The intro to "Bender's Big Score"? The entire first act of "Lrrconceivable Ndndifferences"? They were slightly painful jabs to the fan community. Especially with the latter, how many actual fans have had the opportunity to attend San Diego Comic-Con?
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« Reply #9 on: 02-03-2013 03:24 »

^ Exactly

Date and breakup jokes turn into marriage jokes, so nothing would change.  The only hiccup I see Is the living arrangements transition.  And I totally agree kids are an evil thought, however I think it will eventually happen.  I just pray the writers hold off on it as long as possible.  hmpf
sparkybarky

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« Reply #10 on: 02-03-2013 04:47 »

What would be wrong with Leela squeezing out some redheaded kiddos? The show could treat them the way it has treated Cubert and Ben...let 'em have a little spotlight, then dump 'em out of sight somewhere. Isn't that what all responsible parents do, especially during happy hour and cocktail parties? smile

I would love to see them get married. At the very least, I'd like to see them co-habitating. And Leela having taken on some of Fry's traits, and vice versa.

Picture it: Leela lazing around in her skivvies (oh, I'm sure many fans would be happy with that) and Fry yelling at Leela to do something productive already.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #11 on: 02-03-2013 06:05 »

What would be wrong with Leela squeezing out some redheaded kiddos? The show could treat them the way it has treated Cubert and Ben...let 'em have a little spotlight, then dump 'em out of sight somewhere. Isn't that what all responsible parents do, especially during happy hour and cocktail parties? smile

Fry and Leela are the heart of the show. Their offspring would require similar treatment- it's a big freaking deal. They aren't some clone who pops out of the platclonoform at age twelve and can be shipped off to boarding school. Nor would they be robots who turn twenty-one in three weeks. Futurama is not about children, and fans do seem to get upset when it does stray into that area ("Bender Should Not Be Allowed on TV" and "Yo Leela Leela"). If Fry and Leela's children should ever be featured, it would have to be in a flash-forward or finale finale- like that one proposed idea for an episode where Fry and Leela's son would be traveling backwards in time.

I don't think cohabitation would be much of an issue. The homes of both characters are not key locations like the Planet Express Building and Planet Express ship. The writers would choose to have Leela move into Robot Arms Apartments because we have barely seen Leela's place. I would imagine that Fry and Leela would move into move into a small house in the same neighborhood as Planet Express, but that's just my quaint little fantasy. (Side note: The Conrads have been shown with two different homes- a townhouse in the original run and a more traditional two-story as of the current run) If anything, if the two ever did get married and the series survives, then I would imagine one of the first things that would have to be addressed following the nuptials would be where would the two live (though that's not very sci-fi).

They haven't addressed this in the series yet (other than in "The Beast with a Billion Backs"), but Bender would struggle to find his place in Fry and Leela's (and Bender's) relationship. Bender doesn't roll as the third wheel, but he cares about the two simpletons very much. I've had my own internal plot I've been working on for nearly ten years in my mind, but I'm not a writer.
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« Reply #12 on: 02-03-2013 12:49 »

Possibly instead of a third wheel, assuming it's the end of the series, Bender settles down in terms of personality and becomes friends with the result of Fry and Leela procreating.

My opinion is that if Fry and Leela were to get married the show would turn into either Full House or Family Matters. It would be okay if it were Family Matters. Steve Urkel is a bauss. But I know the writers want to keep it an office show, maybe if anything they do a final final episode a bit like the ending to The Office, a few years later after the show to revisit what's gone on, because previously Leela had gone with someone else, and then she was miserable without Fry. Then, Leela goes to a Planet Express party and realises that Fry's for her, but can't say anything because her husband/bf is there. So, she goes with him home. Supposedly. After showing Fry's reaction, Leela comes back to realise that she would rather have Fry. At the same time Bender finds a nice ladybot and then the show ends because Ricky Gervais moved over to the US to make another version of The Office that's not as good.

I think it would be nice to have some sort of, in terms of if they did get married, revolving conflict other then work or Bender sobering up. I think the introduction of another Cubert for a kid would not be on the pleasing side, and you don't want to take away face time from Fry or Leela, meaning another personality that's not obnoxios, fluff-headed, egotistical, so basically Wilson, Tim the Toolman Talyor's best non-face seeing friend. As for home, I would think that possibly Fry and Leela get a new apartment in a brownstone building to live in, as they're in New New York and come on, you need a big building to film in. Or animate in. I don't discriminate. But I still don't think that the child of Fry and Leela should have such an overt personality because you'd just be taking air time away from Bender and Fry, who are the front men for Futurama. Ask any non fan about Futurama, and they'll probably retort, "Oh, I love Bender. Bender's the best!" So in an productional side, you'd be putting down Bender's personality for Fry's son. And we all need more Bender doing what he does best.

So to reiterate, if I didn't say it out loud, as a fan of Futurama I would love to see Fry and Leela to get married. As a fan of television, I don't think they should get married for fear of changing the show's attitude too much. And I do think a full motion picture would be a good substitute for the show's  finale, but at 100% quality, not like Bender's Game. I think for now, they should continue dating until the show ends. Also if this post sucks grammatically, It's 6am and I've been up since last 6am. Yay for my economics final!
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #13 on: 02-03-2013 13:34 »
« Last Edit on: 02-03-2013 14:03 »

What would be wrong with Leela squeezing out some redheaded kiddos? The show could treat them the way it has treated Cubert and Ben...let 'em have a little spotlight, then dump 'em out of sight somewhere. Isn't that what all responsible parents do, especially during happy hour and cocktail parties? smile

I would love to see them get married. At the very least, I'd like to see them co-habitating. And Leela having taken on some of Fry's traits, and vice versa.

Picture it: Leela lazing around in her skivvies (oh, I'm sure many fans would be happy with that) and Fry yelling at Leela to do something productive already.

I guess most fans do indeed expect Fry and Leela to get married one day.
Some just consider it a "post-series" part of their lives, shaking up established character constellations, and therefore not to be explored in the show.

Personally, I think the characters COULD get marriend in the show, just not now (too early).   But -after treating those characters like a commited couple for a certain time- a marriage would not change too much.

Right now, I am reminded of a very old Don Martin Mad Cartoon: You see a couple lying in bed,  waking up slowly and grumpy, sitting at the breakfast table (not talking to much, him reading the newspaper), then her getting dressed with him standing in the doorway, impatiently pointing at his watch. The next picture showed them as Bride and Groom in front of the altar. That time, the whole joke was hilarious.
Yet -nowadays- the young whippersnappers will probably wonder what kind of punchline that joke is supposed to deliver wink )

Anyway, to cut a long story short: The step from "Commited Couple" to "Married Couple" comes with comperatively little changes nowadays, so that step could be successfully incorporated in the show.

About taking each others traits: A character mimicking the other one -first taking the good habits, but with a plot twist (s)he also takes some mean ones- is common in sitcoms, and Futurama is imhO overdue to bring up such a plot. I think "Butterjunk effect" was such in instance where that premise was wasted.
Basically, the expected flow would be the peaceful character taking on a violent occupation (martial arts in that context). So, a plot with reversal might have been Fry ending up for some reason in a martial arts career, with Leela at first admiring his new kick-assness, but then realising a certain love for violence does also alter Fry's character in a not too nice way.  But yet, Leela was already a fighter in many episodes, the aspect of "martial arts career" was already established in "Raging Bender". All in all...Leela followed an already established occupation, and exaggerated. Not too much new ground was covered with that one...

So, last aspect, about Fry and Leela having kids :
Cohen himself commented on that:
- They could not take the kids on the dangerous space missions with them.
- Leaving the kids with the grandparents would render them as dead-beat parents, and they are not really that kind of folks.
As a normal later-to-be-married couple, they probaly want/will have kids, but this is certainly a part of their lives not to be covered in the show.
I mentioned in the past: Simpsons get away with glimpses into the Future relatively easy. E.g. no one REALLY expects Lisa to become President, Bart to be Chief Justice, etc... . So, new glimpses into the Future will always be possible.
Yet, with Futurama, such scenes would be considered for some reason to be "written in stone".  
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #14 on: 02-03-2013 13:50 »

Yeah, I think I get what you're saying. Bender's" Overclockwise" future reading seems to be accepted as canon future even though it was implied earlier that there is no happy ending for Leela and Philip.
Just Fan
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« Reply #15 on: 02-03-2013 16:19 »

I'd watch Futurama even if Fry and Leela got married and moved into a suburban house... Seriously, I think after 13 years of show timeline it's time for something big. And Bender should be jealous of it smile.
Tedward

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« Reply #16 on: 02-03-2013 20:37 »

I would imagine one of the first things that would have to be addressed following the nuptials would be where would the two live (though that's not very sci-fi).

Well, it worked for "I, Roommate." tongue

But yes, I see what you mean.
sparkybarky

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« Reply #17 on: 02-03-2013 22:42 »

What's wrong with a kiddo? I'd be overjoyed if the series ended with them having a baby. Then all the anti-children crowd wouldn't need to be bothered with seeing the brat in any new episodes.

As Just Fan said, I think it's time for something big.
El-Man

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« Reply #18 on: 02-04-2013 04:21 »

As Just Fan said, I think it's time for something big.

[Futurama writing staff] Hmm, have the PE crew save the universe, or Fry and Leela have a kid... decisions, decisions... [/Futurama writing staff]
DannyJC13

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« Reply #19 on: 02-04-2013 18:40 »

Hmm, have the PE crew save the universe

That happens in like every episode. laff
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #20 on: 02-05-2013 00:09 »

Hmm, have the PE crew save the universe

That happens in like every episode. laff

I was going to post some snappy retort akin to that, but you beat me to the punch.

Googzeez

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« Reply #21 on: 02-05-2013 01:25 »

Hmm, have the PE crew save the universe
That happens in like every episode. laff

That never happens. You know what? They should do that sometime.


UnrealLegend

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« Reply #22 on: 02-05-2013 01:32 »

I believe that Bender made that future up to make Fry happy. When Fry asked him if there was hope for Leela, he clearly looked uncomfortable and skeptical.

* UnrealLegend puts on his tinfoil hat.
Googzeez

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« Reply #23 on: 02-05-2013 02:54 »

* Googzeez joins in with a tin foil stetson

I do agree with that, the scene was fairly tense, but that might be either the animators trying too hard, but if someone's got a screencap, you can see if it's genuine or not. Alternative, if someone has the script to Overclockwise this would make my job a helluva lot easier. Not a transcript, the teleplay.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #24 on: 02-05-2013 03:07 »

I don't think it was just the animators; he flat-out evaded the question.

It probably means nothing though.
Googzeez

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« Reply #25 on: 02-05-2013 04:33 »

Well, I was more talking of facial expressions, but the script is the definitive answer. Oh, wait, as I'm typing this I know what scene you mean. I was thinking of another. Yeah, it's probably so they could put a doubt in our minds so we discuss like this on PEEL. Also it pulls us further into the plot, buy questioning motives and such and all the BS you high school English teachers would say.
El-Man

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« Reply #26 on: 02-05-2013 08:47 »


Oh, like that doesn't happen every episode either.  tongue
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #27 on: 02-05-2013 10:35 »
« Last Edit on: 02-05-2013 13:27 »

I believe that Bender made that future up to make Fry happy. When Fry asked him if there was hope for Leela, he clearly looked uncomfortable and skeptical.

* UnrealLegend puts on his tinfoil hat.

Well, he also said the Professor and Cubert would be sentenced.
So I guess Bender's prediction was based on him keeping his overclocked powers, and not going to the court.
So, by his actions, he altered the possible futures.

DannyJC13

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« Reply #28 on: 02-05-2013 17:34 »

That never happens. You know what? They should do that sometime.

More often than not one or more of the crew are doing something to help save Earth/the universe/time/space.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #29 on: 02-05-2013 17:39 »
« Last Edit on: 02-05-2013 17:44 »

Accidently hit "Quote" instead of "Edit"..that one here can be deleted by our competent, skilled, remarkable and fantastic mods (who would have to erase that praise aimed at them...this could get interesting big grin)
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #30 on: 02-05-2013 17:41 »

Saving Earth. e.g. WAA, TDESS, IAGGDL
Saving the universe: e.g. TKoS, ItWGY, TWOF
DannyJC13

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« Reply #31 on: 02-05-2013 18:19 »

Zapp and the DOOP are trying to save the universe from Yivo for a period of time in TBWABB too.
Eternium

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« Reply #32 on: 02-05-2013 18:55 »

In cold warriors they're trying to safe the world from and epidemic... Counts for saving earth no? smile
DannyJC13

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« Reply #33 on: 02-05-2013 18:57 »

That too!
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #34 on: 02-05-2013 23:38 »

And don't forget about those pesky cats.
Googzeez

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« Reply #35 on: 02-06-2013 05:09 »

That was sarcasm if you didn't pick up by now.

Although Fry and Leela in my opinion are not the type to have kids.
Eternium

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« Reply #36 on: 02-06-2013 12:16 »

Leela is not really the responsible type, no. Aa she treats the crew in TMLH
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #37 on: 02-07-2013 07:06 »

Leela is not really the responsible type, no. Aa she treats the crew in TMLH

Well, she was only fourteen. She probably never had taken on the role as a caretaker in the orphanage. For somebody her age, she did a pretty darn good job for her first time watching kids. None of them ran away, and she did read them a children's book despite her desire to read about Chachi(s).

That was sarcasm if you didn't pick up by now.

Although Fry and Leela in my opinion are not the type to have kids.

I... somewhat disagree.

...

Fry and Leela are apparently at least to have a son, if only if an alternative future. He is supposed to be the backwards time-traveler in a proposed episode.

Plus, there's Leelan Von Fry-bot. But he doesn't count. The comics never count.



Speaking about males, I think there's some sort of "male-patterned" gene "curse" in the Fry family to some extent. Fry has only fathered his son/father, his son/father fathered both Fry and Yancy, Yancy had Philip J. Fry II, and eventually Ned and Velma Farnsworth had Hubert and Lloyd and the Professor managed to father Igner. No girls outside of marriage have been born into the family.

However, there seems to have been at least one girl down the Fry/Farnsworth line, unless if one male Fry took the name Farnsworth...
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #38 on: 02-07-2013 09:58 »

Maybe Velma Farnsworth's maiden name was Fry?
(Do not have the episode available right now to check, though)
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« Reply #39 on: 02-07-2013 10:00 »
« Last Edit on: 02-11-2013 21:46 by totalnerduk »

XY babies occasionally do not express their Y-chromosome, allowing for the possibility of a "biologically male" female Fry being born at some point, and having children by a male Farnsworth. They would take the father's surname, and the lineage would chug onward.
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