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MYK
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Oh Lord, here we go again. All I wanted to do was call attention to a trend I'd noticed and it's turning into this again.
Unmentionable, I'll be very frank with you-man to man. It's not my place to judge your crush on Fry. There's nothing wrong with taking a harmless liking to a character for his looks, personality, or any other qualities he or she may possess. Lord knows that plenty of people here are very openly attracted to Leela. Hey, what the heck, she's cute, stands up for herself, is self-reliant, and resolute. Nothin' wrong with any of that.
But getting excessively emotionally invested in this show, to the point that you're angry at one fictional character for "stealing" another fictional character from you, is not wise or productive, and it will take a negative toll on you emotionally. Going through life with that mindset will not help you much.
Disliking Leela is not a bad thing, but acting as if she took something from you when neither she nor Fry exists physically is not worth your time or thoughts. You're more than that. We all are.
My advice to you is to just try to not let something trivial like this bother you. At the end of the day it's just a cartoon. Hope this didn't come across the wrong way.
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Onuki
Starship Captain
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^ i understand that but people are telling me what i'm saying is impossible. how is that justified? a) Unmentionable is happy in his own opinion and you're not about to change it that Oh Lord, here we go again. All I wanted to do was call attention to a trend I'd noticed and it's turning into this again.
Unmentionable, I'll be very frank with you-man to man. It's not my place to judge your crush on Fry. There's nothing wrong with taking a harmless liking to a character for his looks, personality, or any other qualities he or she may possess. Lord knows that plenty of people here are very openly attracted to Leela. Hey, what the heck, she's cute, stands up for herself, is self-reliant, and resolute. Nothin' wrong with any of that.
But getting excessively emotionally invested in this show, to the point that you're angry at one fictional character for "stealing" another fictional character from you, is not wise or productive, and it will take a negative toll on you emotionally. Going through life with that mindset will not help you much.
Disliking Leela is not a bad thing, but acting as if she took something from you when neither she nor Fry exists physically is not worth your time or thoughts. You're more than that. We all are.
My advice to you is to just try to not let something trivial like this bother you. At the end of the day it's just a cartoon. Hope this didn't come across the wrong way. there's some things we can't change so i just let go but i can't just let nature take its course. i'm fighting for what's right. yes it's a cartoon so i should just focus on my story
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sparkybarky
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MYK, very good remarks, I must say.
I do not and never have hated or disliked Leela. In fact, I find her to be a very sympathetic character, and for me, she's probably the most emotionally complex and fleshed-out character in the show. Maybe even more so than Fry. And I say that from a character development and personality perspective. Am I being sexist when I say that men tend to be simpler than women? And that is a good quality--nothing wrong with that.
Anyway, before I derail this discussion with a breakdown of the differences between men and women...I'm really not sure why a lot of PEELers rip on Leela. So it took her some time to make up her mind about Fry. So what? This seems to be completely consistent with reality. I mean, I would really hesitate to date a man if he were less intelligent than me. And I don't mean in the same way as me--I think I have good problem-solving skills and am knowledgeable about things like literature, culture, etc. But when it comes to history, politics, and solving mechanical problems, that is completely my husband's forte.
I think it's a nice character arc, for her to realize that Fry possesses traits that she was blind to before, even if he isn't a hotshot assistant to the mayor or a badass holophoner player. The fact that it took her so long made it even sweeter for me.
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Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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I'm really not sure why a lot of PEELers rip on Leela. So it took her some time to make up her mind about Fry. So what? Her relationship with Fry is also a "so what" for me. My strong dislike for Leela is based her being designed with too many PC conceptions in mind.
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My Manwich
Liquid Emperor
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I didn't know you wrote for Avril Lavigne.
But anyway, I can understand why some dislike Leela, but I've never felt it. As UL said, in season 7 she was written much better in my opinion, being naggy but not pushy and overall much more likable than season 6. lol yeah i'm quoting her.
because Leela's a person i really hate, she's important. i need her to protect Fry since i'm not allowed to. since the Futurama staff isn't gonna let me have him, things are gonna get ugly
If I was part of the staff I would be a little concerned that Unmentionable might show up somewhere, maybe Comic-Con, with a gun. Since he has lost his grasp with reality and is now making threats.
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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i haven't lost my grasp with reality
This is just. Oh my God. The irony. there's nothing you could say that would hurt me
I don't think you process life properly anyway...
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Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #23 on: 12-12-2012 18:28 »
« Last Edit on: 12-12-2012 19:58 »
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I attribute that to a lack of direction in the relationship between Fry and Leela in Season 6, as compared to a more concrete portrayal in season 7.
In addition to Leela being more cold and callous in season 6 than in previous/future seasons, I think Fry had similar faults. He seemed outright stupid as compared to just absent-minded and oblivious, and he was more whiny and dramatic.
I think a mere "lack of direction" would even have worked. The "a woman does not know what she wants" arc is neither new, nor groundbreaking. It neither is eligible to make the character appear likeable. Yet, there ARE people in this world not knowing what they really want/crave, so there is nothing wrong with an on/off concept. Yet, in season 6, Leela didn't appear like a "woman who does not know what she really wants" to me. She seemed rather like some remote controlled charcter, whose controllers/writers didn't know what to do with the character. You are right about "whiny Fry". The early character was often the emotionally toughest (even if it was sometimes based on him not really getting what was/is going on). Random acts of sadness were often rather Leelas thing (she had more than 25 years to get accustomed to being the only one of her supposed species, yet this could still cause spontaneous outbreaks, e.g, in the Christmas episode). Fry getting extremely sad usually had a graver background, often based on personal loss (e.g. supposedly losing Seymore in the lava, one of the precious few things from his past). It gave those outbreaks a meaning, some "Okay..that one was definitely one to much" aspect. There is a difference between a sensible character and a whiny loser. About the same way there is a difference between a simple, naive character and a complete moron.
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Tachyon
DOOP Secretary
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Ditto, El-Man! Let us accept that we are all Futurama fans, who enjoy the show for our own reasons.
No matter how weird, dark, or depraved they are...
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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Let us accept that we are all Futurama fans,
But he isn't. He hates Futurama and the people that make it. He is obsessed over an imaginary character and believes they have souls.
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TheMadCapper
Fluffy
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How about instead of banning them all, we send them to a forum where only the three of them can post, and they have to keep posting until they resolve their differences?
We have that. It's called the Thunderdome. Not joking.
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #36 on: 12-14-2012 19:29 »
« Last Edit on: 12-14-2012 19:32 »
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you don't deserve to be into Futurama
I've been a supportive fan for over 4 years now, and I actually LIKE the show. Not even like, LOVE it. I still love the new episodes just as much as the old. I don't have creepy, insane obsessions that the characters are real and love me. Don't you fucking tell me what I deserve you piece of scum. *edit* Really guys I hate to clog up so many threads with this shit, but troll or not, Unmentionable needs to piss off. Why should we get the ban? He's the one stirring shit. He's the one pissing us all off and causing these posts. As I said, troll or not, it's fucking annoying.
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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'cause they're not what you think
They're anything but logical.
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