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Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #120 on: 09-01-2012 01:57 »
« Last Edit on: 09-01-2012 02:06 »

Thanks sparky, I'm actually taking a subject that's talked about body mirroring, maybe that's why it stood out to me. It's said that in some cases (and I'm assuming this one too) that it's involuntary and comes with being around someone for a long time. Also the fact they both have the reflex to grab each other when there's danger.

Hein, nevers! x] Actually I agree with you in the fact it's meant to be a childish Fry and Leela gag - but when has Leela been childish before? And reliant on Bender? She could have easily pulled rank on Bender and/or blackmailed him. But I do love the 'no chocolate it's close to bedtime' line.


Behold! The many ships of Naturama:

Also here's Fry-bird checking out Leela-bird



totp!
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« Reply #121 on: 09-01-2012 04:00 »

I love that shot of fish Fry and Leela. Probably the closest we'll ever get to having a scene where the two have children and are proud about it. D'aawwwww.
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« Reply #122 on: 09-02-2012 13:34 »

Well I'm happy with the fact that Leela and Fry are happy having children... the only thing it that they don't have to look after them.

Discovered this little gem:
Professor Zoidy

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« Reply #123 on: 09-03-2012 07:02 »

Sweet find, TLF. I also concur with that fish comment spacedal made. They're so proud and happy I may explode from the ship. ABANDON SHIP!

* Professor Zoidy jumps from the ship for open waters temporarily to not explode
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #124 on: 09-04-2012 02:35 »
« Last Edit on: 09-04-2012 03:04 »

*throws you a life raft

Transcript from commentary from Law and Oracle - credit for noticing it goes to Gorky (I must have been asleep when I listened to it)


‘The story behind this is kind of interesting, Josh and I were talking about a completely different story idea, we talked about it for about two to three days literally’
‘We spent probably three days pitching out this really complex story, cause we wanna do somthing about predicting the future, because we’ve done future stuff but not predicting the future and we had worked out the story of a guy who was travelling backwards in time, right?’
‘That’s right.’
‘And we ended up – should we say who it is?’
[talking over the top of each other – can’t pick what they’re saying]
‘It ends up that the guy travelling back in time was Fry and Leelas son.’
‘Right.’
‘So we worked out this whole complex story for three days, but...’
[another person talking over the top/interrupting.]
‘Oh, it sounds like another episode.’
[David talking too fast I can’t understand what he’s saying]
‘Anyway it was very complicated, but after two to three days we had this really complicated sci-fi story with this guy who always talked backward and moved backwards we realised that wasn’t funny at all – we started over with a brand new story completely.’
‘You told us enough that... I and the other directors had talked about how we would do that guy alot, should we animate him forward...’ ‘...and then reverse him...’ [and then they trailed off and started talking about the actual episode]

So close to having children written into the story - but I love Law and Oracle, so I'm sort of glad they didn't. - But I wonder if there's a design of their son floating around somewhere. ~ <3
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« Reply #125 on: 09-04-2012 02:58 »

‘Anyway it was very complicated, but after two to three days we had this really complicated sci-fi story with this guy who always talked backward and moved backwards we realised that wasn’t funny at all – we started over with a brand new story completely.’
‘You told us enough that... I and the other directors had talked about how we would do that guy alot, should we animate him forward...’ ‘...and then reverse him...’ [and then they trailed off and started talking about the actual episode]

But it can be funny. Maybe not "lol" or "haha" funny, but more like an inside chuckle.

I would imagine most of the humor would stem from the situation. You have this guy doing everything in reverse. Why is he in Planet Express? Who knows... But, the crew probably isn't going to be entirely courteous to this guy. They can't say anything to him, not only because he can't understand but he doesn't compute what they do- just what they are going to do. Sandwiches go missing. Toilets are filled with defecation. The writing crew needs to find the humor in mundane life- well, when it's done backwards. The humor may not be edgy, dry, or witty, but it would kind of be like "WALL-E"'s style where we can all somewhat relate.
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« Reply #126 on: 09-04-2012 10:14 »
« Last Edit on: 09-04-2012 10:20 »


So close to having children written into the story - but I love Law and Oracle, so I'm sort of glad they didn't. - But I wonder if there's a design of their son floating around somewhere. ~ <3

The problem was probably also that this child would have written Fry and Leelas future "in stone". "Simpsons" gets -imhO- much easier away with these future scenes.
E.g. hardly any viewer REALLY expects Lisa to become President, or Bart Chief Justice some day.
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« Reply #127 on: 09-05-2012 06:24 »

I agree about The Simpsons, but they have also brought forth the 'next generation' of grandkids pretty successfully.

It would have been interesting if they had done the son idea in the same vein that we got 'Decision 3012'. It would have been pretty interesting actually if their son came and then disappeared like what happened in the episode and they ended up forgetting about it. That episode would have had a lot darker of an ending if it had gone that way. But also pretty interesting.
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« Reply #128 on: 09-05-2012 06:37 »

Also would have left a massive plot hole. Because of the witnessing of the birth - Leela just can't get pregnant and have a child in the one episode. Yeah, that would never work.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #129 on: 09-05-2012 07:25 »

I'm not saying it had to be exactly like how Decision 2012. Just the idea of their son coming back for some reason, they fix that reason, and that causes him to disappear from that timeline.
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« Reply #130 on: 09-05-2012 21:05 »

Plus, it would provide enough material for about three years worth of fanfictions.
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #131 on: 09-06-2012 02:00 »

It would - but we do enough fanfiction on our own without needing that xD Glad they didn't do that, Law and Oracle is one of the best episodes they've done. They need to make more Fry-centered episodes!
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« Reply #132 on: 09-06-2012 02:54 »

There's no real reason that episode and L&O are mutually exclusive. If they'd done the backwards traveler ep, they probably still would have come up with the L&O idea at some point. Just throwin' that out there.

I don't think we need any more fanfiction-fodder. The last thirty seconds of Overclockwise was enough.
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« Reply #133 on: 09-06-2012 21:05 »

There's no real reason that episode and L&O are mutually exclusive. If they'd done the backwards traveler ep, they probably still would have come up with the L&O idea at some point. Just throwin' that out there.

Sure. These two time travel EPs would just have been too much for one season, but nor for the whole show.
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« Reply #134 on: 09-06-2012 22:08 »

I'm surprised that the backwards time child episode was described to only lack in the humor department. I just couldn't see it working at all plot-wise. If he/she were to speak backwards and do everything backwards how was anyone to understand him or the plot to develop from that?
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #135 on: 09-07-2012 01:06 »

No idea. Probably would've led to some sweet moments, though. I'm still glad they didn't do it, because it does sound exceedingly dumb.
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« Reply #136 on: 09-07-2012 07:54 »

What about if the backwards part was not done, and Fry and Leela's child journeys back in time to meet them? A good idea if written well, or bad idea in general?
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« Reply #137 on: 09-07-2012 08:26 »

What about if the backwards part was not done, and Fry and Leela's child journeys back in time to meet them? A good idea if written well, or bad idea in general?

I don't really like the idea of them having a child in the first place because, like many have said, it sets Fry and Leela's future in stone. I suppose if it was made it would be pretty good (if not a little too similar to "Decision 3012") but I just wouldn't want it to exist if I had a choice...
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #138 on: 09-07-2012 17:40 »

I agree. The ending to Overclockwise annoyed me enough that Fry/Leela's future seemed too set in stone, although they did a good job of it in season 7.
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« Reply #139 on: 09-07-2012 19:07 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2012 19:08 by totalnerduk »

What about if the backwards part was not done, and Fry and Leela's child journeys back in time to meet them? A good idea if written well, or bad idea in general?

I'd prefer to see Fry or Leela journeying forward (remember, they have a machine for that!) and meeting their own child, not realising who it is at first, then escorting the kid home and getting the revelation.

Let's say Leela goes forward. She realises that Phil Jr. is Fry's and her son, and also realises that something is wrong. Future Leela won't talk to her about the last few years, and nobody will say much about Fry.

When Leela investigates she finds out that he died. In an accident. Phil Jr. was born a few months later. Leela travels forward and 'round in time, saves Fry from a horrible fate, and they have sex in the time machine. Nine months later, Phil Jr. is born.

The twist could be that Phil Jr. is born several years early, as Fry wasn't due to die for another few years, and Leela got that particular batch of sperm earlier on in her timeline that she would have. Let's say she stopped Future Fry and Future Leela from copulating earlier, and BAM! Paradoxical child, but this time Leela is the one screwing with the time stream. Then they need to go forward a few years to give the kid to their future selves.

That would have made a far more satisfying episode (done right, at least) than much of 7A.
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« Reply #140 on: 09-07-2012 19:16 »

Well, tnuk, that's quite an interesting theory there. The egg in question would also be a "different batch" but that wouldn't impact a child's gender, though. It could, however, make just a sibling paradox, which in the grand scheme of things, is that an actual paradox? With all the variables like apoptosis, ovulation, and level of drunkenness at conception, it would be a total genetic crapshoot.
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« Reply #141 on: 09-07-2012 19:21 »

Well, tnuk, that's quite an interesting theory there. The egg in question would also be a "different batch"

It's the future. Super birth control and whatnot. Heck, maybe Leela's got her eggs on ice somewhere and takes a "sample" from Fry to put in the tube later. It can be explained away with a single line.
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« Reply #142 on: 09-08-2012 04:39 »

Dude your theory made my head spin ><

I don't particularly want another going forward time episode, not unless they can get back to their own time. Also, wasn't the machine from TLPJF destroyed?

If anything I'd like to see their time travelling kid(s) come and help save them from a catastrophe (like brains respawning!) but never be seen. At least, that's what the fanfic I'm writing is going to be like. xD
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« Reply #143 on: 09-08-2012 08:47 »
« Last Edit on: 09-08-2012 09:29 »


I don't particularly want another going forward time episode, not unless they can get back to their own time. Also, wasn't the machine from TLPJF destroyed?

In TLPF, the time machine appeared 10 feet above ground (and also, not directly over the starting point). I crushed the other Fry, Bender, Fanrsworth, but both time machines looked rather intact to me.
Do you refer to another episode showing the machines destruction, that I cannot remember right now ?

(It was of course also forgotten they just could have gotten back to the ladies, borrow their time machine, and go for a ride to past eras as much as they like.)
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« Reply #144 on: 09-09-2012 13:15 »

Nah, well I thought that the prof said he'd get rid of it - but I can't remember, nor can I be bothered watching it again x] Maybe another time.

(It's probably best that way - they've done enough screwing around in the past, especially Fry flirt ... oh, I made myself revolted...)

Oh and here's a few original run Fry and Leela star gazing...




And Zoidberg!

... I actually find this funnier now that they revisited the 'balcony' romantic moment. To think we were so eager for them to kiss at this point, and now we're so eager for them to have snoo-snoo.
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« Reply #145 on: 09-09-2012 13:22 »

That's not star-gazing, that's Zoid-gazing.
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #146 on: 09-09-2012 14:31 »

More like Zoid-glaring, but whatever  tongue
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« Reply #147 on: 09-10-2012 04:55 »

You all still have Zoidberg!  mad
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« Reply #148 on: 09-10-2012 05:21 »

Oh and here's a few original run Fry and Leela star gazing...

The still from "Leela's Homeworld" reminds me of how lovely that episode is, how subtly and naturally the shippy elements are incorporated. Like, Fry doesn't try to comfort Leela--or work to uncover the truth about her parents, for that matter--because he's trying to make her love him; rather, because he loves her, he's willing to do those things for her without expecting some kind of romantic reciprocation.

There's something similar at play in "Into the Wild Green Yonder," too--Fry helping Leela out simply because he loves her, and not for any greater reward--which is part of what makes it one of my favorite things the show's ever done in terms of the ship. That has nothing to do with any of the three stills TLF so nicely posted, but I just felt like sayin' it.
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« Reply #149 on: 09-15-2012 10:55 »

I found a website where you can see Fry and Leela having graphic uncensored sex. Just thought I'd save you all the trouble - you don't need to watch the show any more.
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #150 on: 09-15-2012 14:13 »
« Last Edit on: 09-15-2012 14:38 »

Lol, Coldy. Just cause I want them to snoo-snoo doesn't mean I want to see the snoo-snoo.

Had a season 6 marathon with a friend today - was nice to see some episodes I haven't seen in a while. And watching it with someone else even made the bad episodes worth watching - and alerted me to subtle shippy moments I missed in the first viewing.

For example, in Yo Leela Leela, Fry is very encouraging of Leela the whole way through (with the only exception being when she's being ego-centric)

Also this:
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« Reply #151 on: 09-15-2012 23:02 »

"To think, I borrowed money from you!"
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« Reply #152 on: 09-17-2012 10:14 »

The look on Hermes' face says that he's also a shipper!
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« Reply #153 on: 09-17-2012 11:01 »

And/or totally baked.
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« Reply #154 on: 09-18-2012 11:08 »

Cause he's some sort of potato man.  Right?
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #155 on: 09-18-2012 21:30 »

Like a potato salad. Well, I think salad. Something with leaves.
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #156 on: 10-07-2012 07:27 »

OK?... let's get this thread moving again; with a picture!



This still speaks volumes, it depicts exactly how the relationship was in the original run, Fry with his heart on his sleeve, waiting for her to meet him halfway. And Leelas uncertainty, but at the same time, I think she's perhaps afraid of hurting him or being let down again or ruining their friendship.

((this screenshot also reminds me of AFTA where Fry is all like 'take my hand'))
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« Reply #157 on: 10-07-2012 07:30 »

It looks like Fry's trying to impress Leela by using his new-found telekinesis ability.
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« Reply #158 on: 10-07-2012 10:39 »

Just had to think of the Parasite's lost phrase : "..and you said it without spewing crumbs at me". Seems we have a "before that phrase" image here big grin wink
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« Reply #159 on: 10-07-2012 22:06 »

OK?... let's get this thread moving again; with a picture!



This still speaks volumes, it depicts exactly how the relationship was in the original run, Fry with his heart on his sleeve, waiting for her to meet him halfway. And Leelas uncertainty, but at the same time, I think she's perhaps afraid of hurting him or being let down again or ruining their friendship.

((this screenshot also reminds me of AFTA where Fry is all like 'take my hand'))

This is fun! How about we do this with some more pictures?

For my part, I love the detail here. It's all in the body language - Leela's reserved and Fry is open, reaching out where she pulls away. It's a tiny thing but it says such a lot about their relationship. (Seriously - how many cartoons would even bother?)

Another thing I noticed - even the stuff on the table kind of corresponds to their personalities. In front of Fry is the Slurm can and the paper, because he's juvenile and more creative (you just know that's another Delivery Boy-Man story in the works), and in front of Leela is coffee, the grown-up's drink, and a cell-phone, because Leela's business-minded. 
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