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PEE Poll: So there are lots of 'Leela or Amy' polls on here and I thought I'd make one for me and my fellow feministas.  Who would you rather spend a night with or be in a relationship with and why? smile
Philip J. Fry.
Lars Fillmore.

Lucy

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« on: 03-07-2012 11:02 »

So I dunno which one I prefer yet, I'm gonna see some reasons for both and think on it... smile
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« Reply #1 on: 03-07-2012 16:45 »

Fry. I'd get way tired of Lars' shit eating grin and stupid pickup lines. Plus Fry has hair and a cuter voice, or at least that's what I'd think if I were a young lass.
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« Reply #2 on: 03-07-2012 17:11 »

I don't think Lars actually smiles that much, I mean I can't remember any grin. :/ Do you mean the smug face he has after he axs Leela out at the start of the film?
See I always think Lars would be less annoying cuz you wouldn't have to babysit him like you would with Fry, also Lars is more loyal and supposedly better looking with his age, I think he'd just be easier to be with. That said, I love ginger hair and hate baldness and facial hair. I think Fry would be more fun too, because of his immaturity. smile
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« Reply #3 on: 03-07-2012 17:25 »
« Last Edit on: 03-07-2012 17:26 »

Yeah, that smug face he makes, he does it damn near every time he says something nice or romantic to Leela. I always thought of Fry has very loyal, Lars could be a little moreso but not much. You're right that Lars might be less annoying in the long run but Fry makes up for that with a good butt and overall nicer appearance. Lars looks almost like a bum, and the bald head/goatee combo maddens me. Fry, with his James Dean jacket and double-forking bright orange hair, is the real catch here.
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« Reply #4 on: 03-07-2012 19:10 »

Lars has a maturity that was hard-earned. Fry will never have that, in his current incarnation. Lars was also willing to do the right thing even though it pained him greatly. Fry might do that today, but I'm guessing that he would need convincing.

Overall, I think Lars would be the one who would be better for somebody to be in a relationship with, but Fry is probably going to be who people pick because they don't see Lars as being the same Fry, but with added maturity. They see Lars as a Leela-stealing prick.

As I'm not female or gay, I wouldn't personally want to be in a relationship with either, but think that Lars would be a better choice for those looking to choose between the two.
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« Reply #5 on: 03-07-2012 19:25 »

Who would you rather be with for one steamy night though? Fry, hands down.
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« Reply #6 on: 03-07-2012 19:41 »

Even if he ruins it (unintentionally or not) like at the end of "Parasites Lost" by breaking your stuff with his poorly-played holophonor and mentioning people he used to date? tongue
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« Reply #7 on: 03-07-2012 19:46 »

I wouldn't mind because it'd be all about the sex anyway, so I wouldn't really pay attention to what he has to say until "Let's do this." Besides, why should Amy be the only one to enjoy one of his oily back rubs?
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« Reply #8 on: 03-07-2012 21:17 »

If I were gay, Fry.
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« Reply #9 on: 03-07-2012 22:31 »
« Last Edit on: 03-07-2012 23:32 »

I prefer Fry as a character--but Lars has a ruggedly good-looking face, so I think I'd prefer him as a boy toy.
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« Reply #10 on: 03-07-2012 22:44 »

Lars, just because of the maturity and the same Fry-like sweetness and the stable job.
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« Reply #11 on: 03-07-2012 23:44 »

Lars is a more annoying version of Fry. I don't like him.
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« Reply #12 on: 03-08-2012 00:46 »

Fry is too short...So I have been told...
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« Reply #13 on: 03-08-2012 01:49 »

Fry's adorable.  Lars is too old (50 is pushing it), and I prefer Fry's sweetness and boyish charm.

Besides....

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« Reply #14 on: 03-08-2012 05:55 »

These are all very good points! So far I'm still completely in the middle on them though. I'll do a bit more thinking on this... :/
Also, SpaceGoldfish, perhaps not. Lars had a very different life experience to Fry, although there was a hint that he learned the same lesson but a lot quicker, at the end when he accepts that he just wants Leela to be happy and tries to fix her up with Lars again. That's very emotionally mature but he seems to have lost that a bit since. But maybe he would be mature later. smile
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« Reply #15 on: 03-09-2012 14:10 »

I think you lot are forgetting just how disgusting of a slob Fry is supposed to be. tongue If this is a thread about who is more attractive, that has to be taken into consideration!
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« Reply #16 on: 03-09-2012 15:33 »
« Last Edit on: 03-09-2012 15:35 »

at the end when he accepts that he just wants Leela to be happy and tries to fix her up with Lars again. That's very emotionally mature but he seems to have lost that a bit since. But maybe he would be mature later. smile
Someone else on this board once pointed out that this supposed emotionally maturity is rather questionable. "When you are in desperate love with someone who does not reply your feelings, abandon all of your thoughts and pursue of happiness, and just make sure this person is happy" and questioned wether this is the lesson to be learned from the movie.

Sounds quite...erm...well....at least not really a lesson that makes too much sense.
Would you call an ex who dumped you wether he needs some money to go to a nice restaurant with his new girlfriend (probably the one he dumped you for)?
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« Reply #17 on: 03-09-2012 15:33 »
« Last Edit on: 03-09-2012 16:13 »

Only 4 of the 11 people who've posted in this thread are female. This disturbs me.

Guess it's 4 out of 12 now. :shudder:

Edit - Thank you, POOP, for pointing out my mistake. It is now corrected. Kinda weird to think of you as promoting accuracy and sense-making, I have to say.
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« Reply #18 on: 03-09-2012 15:39 »

NO...

It is 8/10...AND...40/100...

but I am willing to compromise.
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« Reply #19 on: 03-09-2012 20:00 »

I think you lot are forgetting just how disgusting of a slob Fry is supposed to be.
Good point. I don't think many people could find someone who never showers and keeps mouldy food and liquid in their lockers and their bedroom too attractive.
Also, MadCapper I'm female! XD Unless you mean another recent post? Also you sounded borderline homophobic there!? :/ O.O
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« Reply #20 on: 03-09-2012 23:10 »

Four women by my count - You, Goldfish, Spira, and Gorky. Eight men. One thread about Fry's attractiveness.

A bunch of straight men (and I know most of the guys in this thread are straight) sitting around talking about a male character's sexiness is weird, in my book. I didn't say "ew ur all ghey n thats gross". But thanks for the accusation smile
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« Reply #21 on: 03-10-2012 03:30 »

"When you are in desperate love with someone who does not reply your feelings, abandon all of your thoughts and pursue of happiness, and just make sure this person is happy"

That's bad? ...oh

It's not just sexiness we're discussing, though... it's which one we'd prefer to actually be committed to and such. Personality. They both have their flaws, but I think Lars is both more mature and less creepily obsessive, which are plusses in my book.

Fry, with his James Dean jacket and double-forking bright orange hair, is the real catch here.

Bedsores and all? You can have him.
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« Reply #22 on: 03-10-2012 03:49 »

You don't know what you're missin'! The bedsores were part of the old Fry, he's dead now. He doesn't stay in bed all day anymore, but he would if he and I were together. wink Kidding.
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« Reply #23 on: 03-10-2012 05:21 »




Not exactly, Lars lead a hard life at sea tracking his "true love" at the time. Fry will not be a Lars in 20 years, he will simply be a older Fry since he isn't being forced to "grow up".
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« Reply #24 on: 03-10-2012 08:20 »
« Last Edit on: 03-10-2012 13:31 »

"When you are in desperate love with someone who does not reply your feelings, abandon all of your thoughts and pursue of happiness, and just make sure this person is happy"

That's bad? ...oh


Let's say for me it somehow crosses the line between "being a nice guy" and "being the universe's biggest doormat".
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« Reply #25 on: 03-10-2012 10:38 »




Not exactly, Lars lead a hard life at sea tracking his "true love" at the time. Fry will not be a Lars in 20 years, he will simply be a older Fry since he isn't being forced to "grow up".

Fry experiences crazy adventures, heartbreaking events and supreme injustices all the time. Sooner or later, I'm guessing Fry matures if Bender's answers to life's great questions are true. The ending of Overclockwise's meaning is up to interpretation, here's mine: Fry and Leela end up happily together after enduring some horrible relationship killing type of event(s). The time in between the event(s) and happily ever after is when I suspect Fry to have grown up enough for Leela's standards.
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« Reply #26 on: 03-10-2012 15:01 »

I think in Overclockwise's context the prophecy can only make sense when dealing with Fry/Leela getting together AND the events after that.
- It was Fry "comissioning" the prophecy, and his main interest was if he and Leela got together at all.
- Leela's departure was based on an uncertainty what would happen if she and Fry got together. So, this "assurance" -and therefore in a certain way Leela's condition to get together with Fry at all- could only be achieved by given her information about the time when she and Fry are completely together.
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« Reply #27 on: 03-11-2012 02:48 »

Leela has some growing up to do herself.  When it comes to relationships, she can be even more childish and self-centered as Fry at times.  She also takes him for granted to a ridiculous extent as well, and rarely appreciates him as much as he deserves. 
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« Reply #28 on: 03-11-2012 10:17 »
« Last Edit on: 03-11-2012 10:42 »

Leela has some growing up to do herself.  When it comes to relationships, she can be even more childish and self-centered as Fry at times.  She also takes him for granted to a ridiculous extent as well, and rarely appreciates him as much as he deserves.  

Well..you are a bit unfair on Leela on this one, I think.

After all, Fry HAS grown a bit lazy lately:

Sometimes, a whole week could pass without Fry saving Leela's life (often by willing to sacrifice his), write her an opera, saving her from marrying a shape-shifiting bigamist, reuniting her with her parents, getting the mutants out of the sewers, etc..
Yep, he sometimes dares to spend a whole week without doing any of those things, which is a bit lazy. He will have to do better...the absolute minimum would be the performance of one of those deeds every three days.. big grin wink
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« Reply #29 on: 03-11-2012 17:44 »

You're right.  Fry is so freaking lazy.  I swear it's been at least three months since he reunited her with her long lost parents, wrote her an opera, saved her life three times, and scooped the poop of her ugly pet.

Girl needs a man with more get go.
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« Reply #30 on: 03-11-2012 20:18 »

Ha ha! You guys are right about Leela! XD I always thought she was super harsh on Fry. She's never gonna find a guy much nicer than him who loves her as much, I mean c'mon, Fry would do anything for her and she's STILL 'if'ing and 'er'ing about going out with him! Dammit girl, give him a chance! Her standards are unobtainable! She seems to measure a guy by how successful he is in his career and not how much of an amazingly lovely person he is or is not. I agree that she is fairly immature and impractical...
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« Reply #31 on: 03-11-2012 20:36 »
« Last Edit on: 03-13-2012 02:39 »

Leela's Relationships:

Fry: Pathetic, gross, dumb, lazy, loyal, loving
Lars: Smooth, spontaneous, romantic
Zapp: Pathetic, gross, cowardly, obnoxious, successful
Adlai: Handsome, normal, successful, elitist
Alcazar: Cyclops, creep, unfaithful, manipulative, handsome (not sure if that should count for a shapeshifter)
Chaz: Handsome, successful, elitist, smug, ruthless
Cubert: (We don't know much about older Cubert, but she obviously married him in TLPJF because he reminded her of Fry)
Sean: Pathetic, gross, artistic


Am I missing anybody/anything? Leela seems to always end up with successful snobs who don't respect her.
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« Reply #32 on: 03-12-2012 16:13 »

Chaz was just one date to the best of my knowledge; I'm not sure if I'd consider that to be a relationship.
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« Reply #33 on: 03-12-2012 20:09 »

She was going to get some ass off him, before his dickishness killed her lady-boner.
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« Reply #34 on: 03-13-2012 00:11 »

That's...an awesome way of putting it. laff You can't really blame Leela for not wanting to be with someone as dumb as Fry, but I guess Lars proves that Fry's is a lazy dumbness- not necessarily the permanent kind. I don't like what the writers are doing with her. One episode they're seemingly together, another Leela is trying to get with some Scottish drunk moments after Fry's tearful goodbye to his pet.
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« Reply #35 on: 03-13-2012 01:53 »

Yeh Leela's character is written to be very ambiguous about her feelings towards and opinions of Fry. It's like she changes her mind from one side to the next every episode! No one changes their mind that often about ANYTHING! Ha ha.
I really hope they make her intentions more solid in the next series. Especially after Overclockwise. If they don't then that would make Overclockwise entirely void. It's always a sucky, cheap cop out that annoys people if they aren't consistent. Or which annoys me at least. :/
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« Reply #36 on: 03-13-2012 02:39 »

Yeah, the inconsistency bugs the jitters out of me, too.

I really hope they make her intentions more solid in the next series. Especially after Overclockwise. If they don't then that would make Overclockwise entirely void.

I don't think you will be satisfied, then. Overclockwise was written to be suitable as the last-episode-ever, much like The Devil's Hands Are All Idle Playthings and Into the Wild Green Yonder. This is because they did not know if they would be granted another season or not, so they wanted to end on a sweet yet ambiguous note for Fry and Leela. My prediction is that Season 7 will continue to be on-again-off-again for these two. Depending on when Comedy Central buys Season 8 (I'm not allowing an "if," it must be "when"), the final episode of Season 7 might be another sweet yet ambiguous last-episode-ever.
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« Reply #37 on: 03-13-2012 05:05 »

Ugh. If that's the case, I'm going to get tired of them very quickly.  I mean, it's good that they put effort into them, but eventually the whole "OMG This could be the last episode!!!1" thing is going to become rather stale.

Does anyone know how far 7B is in production?
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« Reply #38 on: 03-14-2012 08:14 »

They touch on this trend in the commentary for Overclockwise. I really wish they could write a definitive last-episode-ever and throw it in the bad until they know for sure they are not coming back, then use it then and only then. That wouldn't really be feasible, though, considering the cost of producing an episode.
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« Reply #39 on: 03-15-2012 06:03 »

Also, as has happened many times before, they may think Futurama is definitely extinct and show us a final episode where Fry and Leela are married with a baby or something and then get bought up by another channel to write another two seasons. It'd be quite hard to write around that cuz it would then make for rather linear stories based around their relationship and may become too much like The Simpsons.
I'm getting annoyed with Leela. I just wish she'd make a permanent decision and stop dicking Fry around.
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