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I quite like the idea of Calculon. :-) However, the character i find myself quoting most frequently, is Free Waterfall, Jr. "Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up! No, YOU shut up! Shut up, let me talk! You're all crazy!" Something like that. So wonderfully rude and politically correct at the same time. It tickles me. :-P
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KatieZ
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« Reply #82 on: 02-19-2012 18:17 »
« Last Edit on: 02-19-2012 19:58 by TheMadCapper »
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I have to say, either Zoidberg or Bender. I simply can't decide. They're both hilarious and have memorable quotes and moments, and each one is interesting in concept (being non-human and all). I think overall I prefer Zoidberg just a little bit more. I also love the robot devil but he doesn't appear much. I'd love to see him in more episodes. Edit - In fact, I think the fight from Anthology of interest I is accurately the same fight that's going on in my head. http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/180/0/1/BENDER_VS_ZOIDBERG_by_BattleEagle.jpgIt's epic, it's huge, but in the end, one has to die. Sorry, Bender.
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KatieZ
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Ok then, sorry. I didn't know it makes such a big difference.
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transgender nerd under canada
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« Reply #85 on: 02-19-2012 20:27 »
« Last Edit on: 02-19-2012 20:28 by totalnerduk »
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It makes all the difference. You should probably Lrn2PEEL by reading the manual and taking a look around wikiPEELia in general. Back on topic, this character discussion is rather pointless. We all know that the greatest character in Futurama is the ultimate space hero, Zapp Brannigan. What more could you ask for? He's every space adventurer cliche rolled into one package of awesome, and given a very incompetent human side with which to counter his godlike prowess and allow the audience to identify with him. Zapp Branningan. What a character. What a man. Truly, there can be no finer role model in the universe than this pinnacle of sci-fi heroism and all-round general awesomeness. For example, did you know he defeated a horde of rampaging killbots in the something-something system? What a guy.
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DannyJC13
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"I came as quickly as I wanted to!"
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DannyJC13
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Not as bad as Yo Leela Leela.
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DannyJC13
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I'm posting my opinion. Nothing can be worse than Yo Leela Leela. Maybe a Season 7 episode. But I doubt it.
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cyber_turnip
Urban Legend
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Not as bad as Yo Leela Leela.
It's far worse, and this is coming from a "Neutopia" defender. "Neutopia" has a lot of redeeming qualities if you ask me. Not only is it very funny but the alien world they visit is visually quite lovely. It's only really let down by a messy plot with a lazy conclusion.
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transgender nerd under canada
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"Neutopia" has a lot of redeeming qualities if you ask me. I'll agree with that. I can't agree at all with it making YLL look like a masterpiece, because YLL has no redeeming features. Neutopia has some brilliant art and animation. The dialogue and plot are fairly crummy in parts, but I can almost forgive it entirely for the hilariously disturbing gender-swapped PX calender sequence, and the PX spaceship's transformation into a 1950's-style airplane. The mineral planet... that's also a highlight. It's just the jokes, the dialogue, the overall plot, and the resolution that are below par - and only just below at that. Nowhere near as far below as YLL. Of course, I expect that there will be people disagreeing with this, and they've a right to. But their taste is bad and they should feel bad.
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futurefreak
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My favorite characters are those with zingers that get seldom seen but do not feel "forced" for the plot. I used to like Scruffy, and HedonismBot a lot, but I like them less (I like Scruffy a lot less) because of what they did to thim in recent seasons. They lost their charm.
I agree with tnuk, one guy has not lost his charm...and that man is the man with no name. Zapp Brannigan!
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UnrealLegend
Space Pope
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Of course, I expect that there will be people disagreeing with this, and they've a right to. But their taste is bad and they should feel bad.
I guess I fall into this category. I'm not going to try and defend YLL, because such a crap episode deserves no defending. But I firmly believe that it still manages to somehow trump Neutopia in every aspect other than perhaps the humour; an area in which both episodes fail miserably. Like I said a while back, it almost feels wrong in thinking YLL better than Neutopia. But if I'm honest, that is what I think. The plot was such a muddled horrible mess that to this day the very thought of the episode makes me feel queasy. Granted, I was exaggerating when I said there were no redeeming qualities, because the airplane plot is amusing, even if it still has the entire crew out of character and no real link to the rest of the so-called 'plot'. Wait... since when was this thread about Neutopia and Yo Leela Leela?
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futurefreak
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Yes please refrain from further commenting on the episodes and let's all talk about how Zapp's boots are the whitest.
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Gorky
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« Reply #104 on: 02-23-2012 13:41 »
« Last Edit on: 02-23-2012 13:44 »
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And his uniform the shortest and velour-iest. I used to like Scruffy, and HedonismBot a lot, but I like them less (I like Scruffy a lot less) because of what they did to thim in recent seasons. They lost their charm.
I'll second this. I also used to like Fry a lot more (I think he used to edge out Leela as my favorite character), but in season six I just got sick of his goddamn bitching. Though I enjoy "The Duh-Vinci Code" and "The Mutants Are Revolting" and "Overclockwise" overall, I kind of hate how whiny and childish Fry is throughout those episodes. It goes beyond anything that was done in the original run; he goes from well-meaning doofus to self-pitying man-child. And I don't like that. And speaking of episodes that everyone hates (holla, "Yo Leela Leela"), part of the reason I've always enjoyed "Attack of the Killer App" more than most people is that Fry actually does something insensitive and guy-like, and manages to make amends with Leela, with out devolving into a mopey sack of crap. I'm not saying I want him to be a jerk-ass of Homer Simpson proportions, but it's nice when he acts in a conventionally guy-ish way and can still remain a generally likable and redeemable character.
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Dr.green:)
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Bender is always awsome but Fry is Fry so Fry
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Tedward
Professor
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I think he meant that Bender is awesome but Fry is Fry, so Fry [is his choice for best character].
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Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #109 on: 02-28-2012 21:46 »
« Last Edit on: 02-29-2012 13:02 »
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I'll second this. I also used to like Fry a lot more (I think he used to edge out Leela as my favorite character), but in season six I just got sick of his goddamn bitching. Though I enjoy "The Duh-Vinci Code" and "The Mutants Are Revolting" and "Overclockwise" overall, I kind of hate how whiny and childish Fry is throughout those episodes. It goes beyond anything that was done in the original run; he goes from well-meaning doofus to self-pitying man-child. And I don't like that.
Yep, seconded. In the early episodes, Leela was the crews crybaby. That emotional vulnerability seemed character-design-driven, as some kind of counterweight regarding Leelas tomboyish traits. Means: Making Leela the crybaby was based on logical character design thoughts. Fry started as the emotionally tougher character (sometimes based on insensitivity, but he could also take a bad event thrown at him). Making him whiny serves neither plot nor character design. In earlier episodes, an occasional whininess on Fry was used to show some caring, maternal side on Leela. But this was an occasional strechting of Fry's character, with a specific purpose. Making him constantly whiny for the sake of it just does not serve any purposes. In season 6, Leela showed less tomboy activities (hardly any fighting scenes, hardly handling a gun, etc...), in favor of more "acitivities more socially acceptable for an adult woman" (working with little kids, sellint real estates). With more typical female solo careers, there was not a big need to counter tomboyish traits with a more emotionally vulnerable side.
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tinsmith63
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Bender, followed closely by Zoidberg, and then of course WELSHYYYY!
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hotdiggetydaffodil
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I loves me some robot devil! That's probably mostly because I loves me some impromptu musical numbers. Roberto is awesome, too! I always end up laughing hysterically when he makes an appearance. Axe crazy=highly amusing! I gotta give props to Fry, too, because he's just so lovable!
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tinsmith63
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@cyber_turnip: David Mitchell has a very humorous Soapbox episode where he talks about that subject, albeit with respect to the Gaelic language (he does mention Welsh, though): <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvlQXPNwrqo&list=PL110593162DBB358A&index =5&feature=plcp> As another of my favorite QI panelists, Welshman Rob Brydon, once quipped: "This is another example of institutionalized racism which is accepted when it's directed towards the Welsh." ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNJStquFEGk).
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TheMadCapper
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I assumed he was speaking Welsh.
Of course, I also watch the episodes with subtitles turned on so it probably said "(Speaking Welsh)" when he turned on the mouth full of marbles and oatmeal effect.
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cyber_turnip
Urban Legend
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As another of my favorite QI panelists, Welshman Rob Brydon, once quipped: "This is another example of institutionalized racism which is accepted when it's directed towards the Welsh." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNJStquFEGk).
I never said anything bad about the Welsh people, I just think that the Welsh language is stupid and people should let it die. So, I suppose I might qualify as a "languagecist" in much the same way as I might be considered a "filmcist" because I don't like films made by Uwe Boll or a "smellcist" because I don't like bodily odours. Some might even refer to me as a being like a cyst on this forum's anatomy (but those would be unpleasant people).
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