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Louiswuenator

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« Reply #360 on: 08-27-2011 01:18 »

The only very minor detail that I can nitpick about the whole Kif/missile thing is that he said "a ship is trying to break quarantine" not "the planet express ship is trying to break quarantine."  One would think that he knows that ship by now and would object to shooting it down.
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« Reply #361 on: 08-27-2011 01:19 »

The only very minor detail that I can nitpick about the whole Kif/missile thing is that he said "a ship is trying to break quarantine" not "the planet express ship is trying to break quarantine."  One would think that he knows that ship by now and would object to shooting it down.

Especially since Amy actually piloted the ship to visit him in one episode. 
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« Reply #362 on: 08-27-2011 01:21 »

The only very minor detail that I can nitpick about the whole Kif/missile thing is that he said "a ship is trying to break quarantine" not "the planet express ship is trying to break quarantine."  One would think that he knows that ship by now and would object to shooting it down.

I also thought it was odd that there was really no mention of the fact that it was the PE ship. Both Zapp and Kif should care about that rather significant detail there.
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« Reply #363 on: 08-27-2011 01:24 »

It was sweet of Leela to give Fry a kind word at the end.  Not Over-the-top, but definitely something from the heart.
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« Reply #364 on: 08-27-2011 01:26 »

Yeah.  I didn't find it shippy, but it's nice to see Nice!  Sweet!  Caring! Leela, and not the flighty mind game playing bitch we've seen too much of recently. 

That's why Lrr/Ndnd was one of my favorite episodes of 6A.  The smooch on the cheek she gives Fry and her little quip was very cute.  Wasn't over the top, but felt sweet in a very Leela sort of way.
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« Reply #365 on: 08-27-2011 01:38 »

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I also thought it was odd that there was really no mention of the fact that it was the PE ship. Both Zapp and Kif should care about that rather significant detail there.

"Smithers....who is this Homer Simpson?" wink
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« Reply #366 on: 08-27-2011 01:46 »

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I also thought it was odd that there was really no mention of the fact that it was the PE ship. Both Zapp and Kif should care about that rather significant detail there.

"Smithers....who is this Homer Simpson?" wink

Mr Burns is senile and Zapp is a complete idiot as well as a sociopath.  Kif has no excuse!  He punched Zapp's lights out for seducing his woman after all. 
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« Reply #367 on: 08-27-2011 01:52 »

Zapp's an idiot, but several times in the past he's made the connection that electric mucus ship = hot sexy Leela. No mention, this time. And Kif did pretty much get slammed into the button, though it isn't like he made any specific protests to the contrary.
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« Reply #368 on: 08-27-2011 02:35 »

Exactly, so that should make him hesitate a little.  Then again, we have seen Zapp is the complete opposite of Kif when it comes to their love interests in the crew.  Zapp will always be more then happy to try to kill Leela or abandon her to certain doom to save his own skin.  However when Amy is in danger or is being threatened somehow, that's usually when Kif will man up and take control.  (Hell Zapp seducing the widowed Amy into bed is what finally made Kif snap and lay down some karmic smackdown.  And that's before he even knew that worse then that, Zapp had deliberately preyed on Amy's grief, fear and loneliness to get her into bed.)
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« Reply #369 on: 08-27-2011 02:40 »

I would like to point out that both Zapp and Kif would probably be terrified of catching the unknown and potentially deadly virus, and though it might sadden either one of them (maybe not Zapp) to destroy their love interest, they'd push the button anyway (eventually, if they were given enough time to do so rather than have their head slammed into it) to protect Earth from the deadly contagion.
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« Reply #370 on: 08-27-2011 03:26 »

Honestly, I think it's possible that Zapp and Kif had hang-ups about quarantining all of New New York and subsequently hurling it towards the sun--but those gripes were brought up off-screen, as they would not have been pertinent to the episode. It didn't bug me in the slightest, I guess because I was already absorbed in what was going on with Fry's story--but I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that Kif, at least, was not too thrilled about trapping Amy and potentially killing her. Zapp, like others have said, has always been more interested in looking like a bad ass, so I could see why he wouldn't really care about letting Leela die (he was prepared to do so in "Love's Labours Lost in Space," after all).

That's why Lrr/Ndnd was one of my favorite episodes of 6A.  The smooch on the cheek she gives Fry and her little quip was very cute.  Wasn't over the top, but felt sweet in a very Leela sort of way.

Agreed. Moments like that melt my heart and frustrate me in equal measure, because the interplay between Fry and Leela is so sweet and not at all heavy-handed or intrusive, and it makes me wonder why the hell the writers must be so wishy-washy about their relationship when it's obvious that a light touch can be quite effective in most situations.
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« Reply #371 on: 08-27-2011 06:25 »

Agreed. Moments like that melt my heart and frustrate me in equal measure, because the interplay between Fry and Leela is so sweet and not at all heavy-handed or intrusive, and it makes me wonder why the hell the writers must be so wishy-washy about their relationship when it's obvious that a light touch can be quite effective in most situations.

Second!

I seriously don't get it. mad I enjoy the little things like that but then it just makes me wonder what is going on.
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« Reply #372 on: 08-27-2011 06:29 »

I also love those little moments.

Oh my god, next week... next week we might actually get some answers as to what is going on. aaah excited!

Or maybe we won't. Still though. It should be better than nothing.
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« Reply #373 on: 08-27-2011 07:04 »

I also love those little moments.

Oh my god, next week... next week we might actually get some answers as to what is going on. aaah excited!

Or maybe we won't. Still though. It should be better than nothing.

Haha. I'm excited too. big grin

Probably too excited for my own good....
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« Reply #374 on: 08-27-2011 13:56 »

I'll third that, spira. Nervous, could-go-either-way excitement about the relationship between two characters from an animated sci fi show is what makes me feel alive. tongue
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« Reply #375 on: 08-27-2011 17:22 »

I'm looking forward more to God-Like Bender and the awesome science-y stuff. big grin
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« Reply #376 on: 08-27-2011 18:32 »
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I wonder wether there might be a Watchmen reference...Bender's attitude reminds me (based on the sneak peak alone) of Doc Manhattan.

But I have to admit that the handling of the Leela/Fry stuff might contain more information regarding the direction future episodes/seasons will lean:

- It will show wether the writers will keep to some long running plots (couple wise interpretation) or running gags (eternal chase). If they went for 100% running gags from the beginning, e.g. Leela would still be searching for her "homeworld", the mutants would still be sitting in the sewers, etc...
- Most series have this "eternal chase" scenario, or "Old Couple" (Simpsons, Flintstones, etc...). A young couple is rather unusual. I'd regret if they canceled it out because of an "No other sitcom does it" attitude. I would rather prefer an "No other sitcom does so, so we gonna be the first to tell such a story in an entertaining way" attitude.  After all, that was the spirit why they came up with by setting Futurama in the sci fi Universe at all.

Storytellingwise, I am more interested in the main plot.
But -regarding the future storywriting in Futurama- I think we will get the most insight by the handling of the Leela/Fry stuff in that episode.

(Personal opinion: I would prefer the show to keep long running plots and ideas "no other sitcom has done before". Not the "competence over risk" attitude , that was criticised regarding season 6B)
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« Reply #377 on: 08-27-2011 19:42 »

I'm looking forward more to God-Like Bender and the awesome science-y stuff. big grin

Yeah, I have to agree that the Sci-Fi stuff with Bender interests me more. I don't mind it getting a bit shippy though, as long as it doesn't take over the episode. Some answers on what Fry and Leela's status is would be nice so that it's a bit clearer...
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« Reply #378 on: 08-27-2011 19:56 »

Nervous, could-go-either-way excitement about the relationship between two characters from an animated sci fi show is what makes me feel alive. tongue

Same here. I'm not a nerd with no social life or anything. -shifty eyes-

I am also really stoked about the Bender sci-fi stuff. Should be epic. But I'm definitely something of a shipper so I'm really interested in what they have to show in that department.
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« Reply #379 on: 08-27-2011 20:15 »

I am also really stoked about the Bender sci-fi stuff. Should be epic. But I'm definitely something of a shipper so I'm really interested in what they have to show in that department.

Indeed. I didn't think it was necessary to add that I'm pumped to see where the writers take the Bender/overclocking stuff, since this is the shipping thread and not the, you know, "Whoa--Sci Fi!" thread or something, Otis and Danny. wink

To that end...

- Most series have this "eternal chase" scenario, or "Old Couple" (Simpsons, Flintstones, etc...). A young couple is rather unusual. I'd regret if they canceled it out because of an "No other sitcom does it" attitude. I would rather prefer an "No other sitcom does so, so we gonna be the first to tell such a story in an entertaining way" attitude.  After all, that was the spirit why they came up with by setting Futurama in the sci fi Universe at all.

This is a good point. I think the writers are severely underestimating their own abilities if they think they'll have a hard time making Fry and Leela's relationship compelling if they allow it to evolve past this chaser-chased, will-they/won't-they stuff. Still, considering Futurama is above all else a nerdy cartoon, I'd understand it if the writers' storytelling interests lie elsewhere: with the sci fi and not with the lovey-dovey romantic stuff. It's just that the lovey-dovey romantic stuff is so often combined with the sci fi stuff in brilliant ways ("Parasites Lost," "Time Keeps on Slipping," "The Late Philip J. Fry"), so clearly the writers have a knack for it and it probably wouldn't hurt them (or the show) to just get Fry and Leela together already.

Or, they could break Fry and Leela up for good; I would be fine with that, too. But I think keeping them apart will cost the writers more potential stories than would getting them together, which is why I'm still pulling for the writers to establish them as an honest-to-god couple in "Overclockwise" and/or season seven.
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« Reply #380 on: 08-28-2011 06:14 »

Yeah, I think the writers are dead wrong when they've said that the will they/won't they is more interesting than settling the matter. Non-shippers got sick of that endless repetition pretty fast, and now shippers are sick of it, and it's pretty much exhausted all of its possibilities. I honestly don't see how they could mine any more out of the Fry/Leela relationship as it currently is. However, if they either get together as an actual couple or break up for good, there's potential in both of those situations. (Of course, if they go with the latter, we could end up with more Fry-pining-for-Leela-to-no-avail episodes, which have been done well in the past and also been done poorly in the past and which I also think we're done with).

Like other people have said, having the two of them as a legitimate couple does not mean that this fact needs to be referenced whenever they're together. Hell no. And I think the writers can do it without getting lovey-dovey because it's been done in the past (best example: the end of Why of Fry).
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« Reply #381 on: 08-28-2011 21:01 »

Wow, reading every post from my last post in this thread just made me sick.
On-topic.. Everything what was sayable has been said, pretty much. All is left to do is wait for the Overclockwise.
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« Reply #382 on: 08-28-2011 21:23 »

I can't believe that Overclockwise is finally airing this week!!!! I remember about 3 months ago thinking it's going to be so long to wait for Overclockwise. Time sure goes by fast.
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« Reply #383 on: 08-28-2011 23:34 »

Yeah, I think the writers are dead wrong when they've said that the will they/won't they is more interesting than settling the matter. Non-shippers got sick of that endless repetition pretty fast, and now shippers are sick of it, and it's pretty much exhausted all of its possibilities. I honestly don't see how they could mine any more out of the Fry/Leela relationship as it currently is. However, if they either get together as an actual couple or break up for good, there's potential in both of those situations. (Of course, if they go with the latter, we could end up with more Fry-pining-for-Leela-to-no-avail episodes, which have been done well in the past and also been done poorly in the past and which I also think we're done with).

Like other people have said, having the two of them as a legitimate couple does not mean that this fact needs to be referenced whenever they're together. Hell no. And I think the writers can do it without getting lovey-dovey because it's been done in the past (best example: the end of Why of Fry).

I cannot agree with you more. I'm honestly getting sick of this!!
It's not like shippers are asking them to be married and settle down and have children with Leela as a housewife. They can be a couple and it wont distract from the rest of Futurama. But they haven't had Fry chasing after Leela lately either. So it's almost as if there is NO relationship going on. But I know it's because they have just decided not to address it at the moment, it still looks bad. I don't think they really intended it to be that way. I think they just wrote all these non-relationship-addressing episodes and didn't really look at the order they were airing them in.

But I can't wait for Thursday. I hope I am not disappointed. I probably will be.
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« Reply #384 on: 08-28-2011 23:41 »

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« Reply #385 on: 08-29-2011 06:00 »

I don't think they really intended it to be that way. I think they just wrote all these non-relationship-addressing episodes and didn't really look at the order they were airing them in.

Maybe, but there have also been lines like "my strictly platonic friend" that seem to suggest some sort of reset button action. I mean, if there were literally no mention for or against a relationship, I would maybe be sort of okay with that. It's just there have been episodes heavily in favor of one (TLPJF) and ones rather against one (Eggman, where my example came from). I just want some conclusiveness.
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« Reply #386 on: 08-29-2011 06:04 »

I think Leela is just being a female. She doesn't know what she wants, and keeps stringing Fry along so she doesn't lose her fall back. I dunno, maybe she is waiting till Fry becomes the older version (Lars) but doesn't understand that Lars was more than just a more mature Fry, it was a Fry that had many different life experiences than the current Fry. This Fry could be just as immature at 50.
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« Reply #387 on: 08-29-2011 13:42 »

I don't think Leela is stringing Fry along, not really. Even in the original run, when their relationship was decidedly more Fry-chases/Leela-runs, Leela made a point of saying that she didn't want to hurt Fry and that she valued their friendship ("Time Keeps on Slipping"). She didn't date other guys but still keep Fry as a conscious second-choice (in "The Cyber House Rules" she calls him "a true friend"; in "The Why of Fry" she only kisses him after she's been on a lousy date and comes to realize that maybe Fry's the better match). Her feelings for Fry were deep but platonic, and she made a point of showing it.

Yes, Leela would indicate some progression in their relationship (the hand-holding in "Love and Rocket"; all of "The Sting"; agreeing to a date in "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles" and "The Farnsworth Parabox"; staying around to hear the opera at the end of Devil's Hands), but as far as the original run is concerned, I don't think she ever played Fry. I do think she wasn't sure of what she wanted ("Do I go for the important guy who no one says in crummy, or do I go for the sweet guy who's trying so hard?"), but I don't think she was deliberately or maliciously toying with Fry's emotions or treating him as expendable.

The movies are where things get a bit more complicated, of course. Leela shows no interest in Fry in "Bender's Big Score," and in fact flaunts her relationship with Lars in a way that seems obtusely inconsiderate (though it's clear she's not dating Lars to make Fry jealous; she values Fry's friendship, but makes it known that she's not interested in him romantically. Call it stubbornness or genuine indifference, but Leela's not doing anything wrong by dating a guy who's not Fry). Then, she gives Fry the ol' "You forgot about me quick enough" thing in "The Beast With a Billion Backs" after having been seemingly supportive of Fry's relationship with Colleen throughout the movie. That's a little bitchy, I'll admit, but it's also maybe the first confirmation in the history of the series that Leela was a little jealous of another woman in Fry's life, and maybe that she's developing some feelings for him.

Flash forward to "Into the Wild Green Yonder," where Leela makes it clear to Fry throughout how important he is to her ("I miss you, too"; calling him her sweet goofbag; placing so much importance on her ability to trust Fry), and acts on it in a substantial way (what with the "I love you" and the smoochin') at the movie's end. 

Which brings us to season six. Leela shows incredible devotion to Fry in "Rebirth," telling him that she wouldn't be able to stand it if she lost him, and going all Blade Runner to make sure that she's never without him. And then, with a few exceptions (referring to him as just a friend in "Attack of the Killer App" and "Fry Am the Egg Man"; a throwaway line about not having a man in "That Darn Katz!"), we aren't given any indications that Fry and Leela aren't dating--or, at the very least, that Leela is completely uninterested in Fry. The only episode that creates real confusion for me is "Fry Am the Egg Man," where Leela is incredibly supportive of Fry but still gets her flirt on with Angus--but I think that was in some way an intentional set-up for what is supposed to be one of the conflicts in "Overclockwise": Fry and Leela questioning their relationship.

But, yeah. That's a long-winded way of saying that Leela hasn't just been keeping Fry in the back of her mind as a possibility if all these other romantic entanglements don't work out--she loves him (which she reaffirms in "Rebirth"), she considers the time she spent with him the best time of her life ("The Late Philip J. Fry"), and she cares what he thinks of her ("The Prisoner of Benda"). She also shows marked compassion towards him in "Fry Am the Egg Man" and, to a lesser extent, "Cold Warriors"--and, even if it doesn't have romantic undertones, it definitely shows the depth of Leela's feelings of friendship for Fry in a way that the original run didn't, really.

So there has been some progress in the relationship, and I'm hopeful that things will be cleared up in "Overclockwise," and that any developments will be followed through with in season seven.
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« Reply #388 on: 08-30-2011 04:34 »

I am just tired of the back and forth honestly, it worked well in the original run. And would still work well IF NOT for what happened in Into the Wild Green Yonder at the end. I really, really thought good, they got that out of the way, we can explore where it is going. And for a few episodes it really seemed they would. But this half of the season, well, has left me cold. I am not the typical "shipper". I am a guy, I am married, I'm not a big sci fi fella. I'm a trucker and a bit of a redneck. But I am really pulling for them. I see a lot of me in Fry and a lot of Leela in my wife (Not physically, but the way we met, got to know each other as friends and both dated other people off and on, and finally realized we LOVED each other. And then got married big grin ) I want to see where this love story goes dammit, and I don't want any BS.
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« Reply #389 on: 08-30-2011 12:45 »

I think the back-and-forth had gotten old by the end of "Bender's Big Score," honestly; that seemed like the first (or at least the most significant) time the writers played up Leela's feelings for Fry--what with all that "only man I'll ever love" stuff--even if she was referring to an older and more mature version of Fry. I've come to accept "The Beast With a Billion Backs" as a logical extension of BBS from Leela's perspective, though Fry still seems massively out-of-character to me. (It's not that I need him to constantly pine over a woman who has shown very little overt interest in him (though that's happened in several episodes this season, it seems), but I don't think any woman is worth committing celestial suicide over. And if Fry was going to be so distraught that he might kill himself, the fact that he would do so over Colleen and not Leela speaks to the depth (or lack thereof) of his feelings for the latter.)

Anyway, I thought "Into the Wild Green Yonder" was one of the best shippy episodes of the series, precisely because it wasn't solely shippy. A lot of other, game-changing stuff was going on, and in the midst of it there was this sweet and organic Fry/Leela story that, for most of the movie, was solely about Fry's willingness to do anything for Leela and Leela's realization that she trusted Fry instinctively. It wasn't until the end that Leela realized that, hey, all this stuff we just went through together must mean I love him.

I know the ending of ItWGY felt forced to some people, but it made a lot of sense to me, both because it was set-up within the movie itself, and because--if you're kind of reading just a tad bit too much into things--the entire tetralogy plays out like a condensed version of the series: Fry chases Leela and Leela rejects him; Fry moves on and Leela feels conflicted about it; the entire universe's dark matter supply is rendered useless (when telling a cogent love story, you never want to skip that chapter); and Fry is simply himself, and Leela finally realizes that he's the guy she wants.

So, yeah, all the backtracking this season has been a bit of a bummer, if only because things were set up so nicely over the course of the four movies.
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« Reply #390 on: 08-30-2011 15:52 »

Exactly.   The characters grow and develop in a way most other animated sitcoms don't, and the thing is, jokes that would have felt in character ten years ago won't work anymore.  Amy is basically married, so a joke about her going to the back seat of some latino guy's car for "coffee" wouldn't be funny, it would just make her seem like a whore cheating on Kif.  I just don't get why the Beta Couple gets so much more consistency then the supposed Alpha.
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« Reply #391 on: 08-30-2011 16:06 »
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I just don't get why the Beta Couple gets so much more consistency then the supposed Alpha.

I'm almost positive it's because there aren't many situations--outside of social and/or romantic ones--where Amy and Kif are forced to confront each other. Like, Amy's not going to be hanging around on the Nimbus, trying to make kissy-face with her boyfriend. Amy and Kif don't share a workplace, so workplace-related stories aren't affected by their relationship--rather, their relationship is really only mentioned significantly when it suits the episodes needs ("Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch," "Proposition Infinity"), or if Amy is in a social situation where it would make sense for Kif to be involved ("Where the Buggalo Roam," "That Darn Katz!"). That is to say, Kif and Amy's relationship lends itself well to certain episodes, but can easily be ignored (or at least not mentioned) in others.

Fry and Leela, meanwhile, do work together, and many episodes of Futurama do take the form of workplace comedy, and this probably makes the writers feel compelled to shoehorn their relationship into otherwise unromantic stories. For example, I would understand the writers being reluctant to write an episode like, say, "Future Stock" if Fry and Leela were in a romantic relationship, because viewers might wonder how Fry's jerkass-ery is affecting his girlfriend, and that might send the episode off in meaningless directions that are not relevant to the story at hand.

That said, I don't think Fry and Leela's relationship would need to be forced into a story that is decidedly more comedic than dramatic. Just because they work together, not every delivery or PE-centric episode must revolve around Fry and Leela's feelings for one another. If I had decent confirmation that the two of them were together (that is, no more of this "platonic friends"/"sleeping with the mayor's wife" bullshit), and there was an episode or two each season that brought their relationship front and center, I wouldn't care if I never saw them smooching or holding hands or even overtly mentioning their relationship in the remaining twenty-four episodes of the season.

The writers were doing so well with subtly including their relationship in non-shippy episodes (like "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela" and "Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences"), but this season it's kind of gone to crap. Cut out all the references to Fry and Leela wanting to bone other people, and I think this relationship could work--without the writers mentioning ad nauseam  that Fry and Leela are romantically involved.
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« Reply #392 on: 08-30-2011 17:34 »
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But the thing is, Fry and Leela can have their relationship only mentioned when the plot demands it, similar to Kif and Amy.  We don't need to see them constantly having quickies in the broom closet, or having candlelit brunches in the middle of the work day, or dry humping against the wall.   They share a work place, but they can stay fairly professional about it (we could have a few jokes where Fry is getting too touchy feely, and it would be in perfect character for Leela to be all like "Not in the office!  I have a ship to run!"   The professor isn't fond of smoochy woochie around the office anyway, (Remember he went berserk when Amy asked if the crew could drop her off on the Nimbus since it was stationed outside the next delivery and practically bit her head off).   I imagine the Professor having a cattle prod for when the couple get too amorous during shifts: Bzzzzt!  "DO YOUR DAMN JOB YOU STUPID KIDS."  

Or fitting them both with shock collars for whenever either of them experience sexual arousal during work.  Its not like he hasn't done that before to Leela.   Like you said, we don't need to see them constantly holding hands and making kissytime.  Amy's relationship with Kif is only mentioned when it suits the plot, and the jokes about her being a slut and that if it's male, it's good enough for her have gone out the window.   Granted Amy's sluttiness never powered plots the way Fry trying to win Leela's heart has, but we're all quite tired of those episodes anyway.  They aren't emotionally on the same level, and that could probably be mined for more comedy and stories if they became a couple.  I really don't see Fry suddenly becoming a healthy living, ambitious young romeo because he's a boyfriend, and I don't see Leela suddenly becoming a carefree, mellow gal suddenly because she is now a girlfriend.  If anything she's going to have more reason to be on Fry's case all the time.
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« Reply #393 on: 08-30-2011 17:35 »

Gorky = truth.
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« Reply #394 on: 08-30-2011 17:38 »

I'm so glad someone finally noticed, jeepdavetj!

But the thing is, Fry and Leela can have their relationship only mentioned when the plot demands it, similar to Kif and Amy.  We don't need to see them constantly having quickies in the broom closet, or having candlelit brunches in the middle of the work day, or dry humping against the wall.   They share a work place, but they can stay fairly professional about it (we could have a few jokes where Fry is getting too touchy feely, and it would be in perfect character for Leela to be all like "Not in the office!  I have a ship to run!"   The professor isn't fond of smoochy woochie around the office anyway, (Remember he went berserk when Amy asked if the crew could drop her off on the Nimbus since it was stationed outside the next delivery and practically bit her head off).   I imagine the Professor having a cattle prod for when the couple get too amorous during shifts: Bzzzzt!  "DO YOUR DAMN JOB YOU STUPID KIDS."  

Or fitting them both with shock collars for whenever either of them experience sexual arousal during work.  Its not like he hasn't done that before to Leela.

Oh, I agree with this completely. I was just trying to explain a possible "justification" the writers have for being so wishy-washy about the state of Fry and Leela's relationship.

And speaking of the Professor's reaction to Fry and Leela's relationship: I love the little "Fuh" sound he makes in "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela" when Leela kisses Fry and assures him that she'll be back soon. Like, "Enough of this sentimentality!" It amuses me, it does--even if it feels like a bit of editorializing on the writers' parts.
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« Reply #395 on: 08-30-2011 19:57 »
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We don't need to see them constantly having quickies in the broom closet, or having candlelit brunches in the middle of the work day, or dry humping against the wall.   They share a work place, but they can stay fairly professional about it (we could have a few jokes where Fry is getting too touchy feely, and it would be in perfect character for Leela to be all like "Not in the office!  I have a ship to run!"
Hm...sounds rather like a "lesson to be learned the hard/embarassing way" in one episode wink
(E.g. like Leela had to learn that your friends remain your friends also on board of the ship in "Brannigan begins again". After that, phrases like "That's an order" were hardly heard....*. Okay, there was also something to be learned for Fry and Bender, but they usually show greater resistance to learning experiences;))

*(expect for THAT one Episode that shall never be mentioned again.. tongue )
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« Reply #396 on: 08-31-2011 17:02 »

We don't need to see them constantly having quickies in the broom closet,

I'd watch that.
The show's timeslot would need to be changed.
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« Reply #397 on: 08-31-2011 22:27 »

I'm mostly upset with the reset switch, like in FATEM where leela refers to fry as a strictly platonic friend >frown what happened?? its like the i love you and kiss in ITWGY dont even matter! "ahhh, the reset switch, the shippers natural enemy" tell me about it!
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« Reply #398 on: 09-01-2011 02:01 »

It seems inconsistent of late, since in TLPJF they are clearly dating. And in APoB they are sexually involved (albeit in different bodies).
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« Reply #399 on: 09-01-2011 19:10 »

We don't need to see them constantly having quickies in the broom closet,

I'd watch that.
The show's timeslot would need to be changed.

Yes, I'd watch too. flirt

I really hope something happens in tonight's episode, or I'm gonna be pretty pissed off. mad
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