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UnrealLegend

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« Reply #40 on: 03-24-2012 02:18 »
« Last Edit on: 03-24-2012 02:19 »

That may be the case... but there's no way we can know that for sure unless we cornered the writer and interrogated him.

Personally, I don't really want to do that.

Onuki

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« Reply #41 on: 06-02-2012 01:17 »

It is because Kurt hates Fry and he won't admit it.

nah he doesn't hate him. he told me.

no thanks. would't watch an episode with out mr fry big grin

that. he's the reason i watch Futurama
Andromeda

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« Reply #42 on: 06-08-2013 21:33 »

It wouldn't be too bad if it was only one episode, and it would depend on what the episode would be about. Overall, I think we could all survive one time without Fry.
Lyra405

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« Reply #43 on: 06-09-2013 00:55 »

Yes, I would watch a Fry-less episode. I wouldn't mind at all, it really wouldn't be the end of the world.
MeatablePie

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« Reply #44 on: 06-09-2013 17:48 »

I can take a Fry-less episode.
Barely even notice him in episodes that don't surround him.
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #45 on: 06-09-2013 22:33 »

It's not an impossible thought. The Simpsons had a completely Bart-less episode. It'd have to be a pretty damn good episode though, so the lack of Fry wouldn't stick out.
Anna3000

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« Reply #46 on: 06-10-2013 05:20 »

I definitely would watch it; there have been some episodes that he has such a minor role in that it wouldn't make too huge of a difference if he simply wasn't in them.
However, the Fry-less episode almost definitely wouldn't be one of my favorites since I view him as the "heart" of the show, and he's heavily-involved in all of my favorite episodes.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #47 on: 06-10-2013 08:27 »

I definitely would watch it; there have been some episodes that he has such a minor role in that it wouldn't make too huge of a difference if he simply wasn't in them.
I agree, that's exactly what I was going to say.
HIGHasFRY

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« Reply #48 on: 06-15-2013 03:40 »

Defiantly a watch... I'd watch any futurama episode after all.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #49 on: 08-20-2013 18:08 »

I would be willing to watch any Futurama episode, as long as it didn't sound absolutely terrible. But it would be funny if something crazy happened in the episode, and Fry showed up at the end and said something like, "Hey, what'd I miss?".
Beamer

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« Reply #50 on: 08-22-2013 02:51 »

Fry doesn't always have to be the focus of the plot - there are some episodes where he's there just for the sake of being there, so this wouldn't be all that different. But of course, it would depend on the quality of the episode above anything else.

They were planning on doing an entirely Zapp & Kif-centred episode at one point, with little-to-no screentime with any of the PE crew.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #51 on: 08-24-2013 01:48 »

Somehow, I don't think anyone in this thread ever commented on the fact that Fry has almost no lines in Kif Gets Knocked up a Notch. He's around a lot, but mostly in the background.
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #52 on: 08-24-2013 03:30 »

Somehow, I don't think anyone in this thread ever commented on the fact that Fry has almost no lines in Kif Gets Knocked up a Notch. He's around a lot, but mostly in the background.

Lethal Inspection, too. If Fry isn't in an episode, I think some people get scared that something happened to him, or the show just feels weird.
SolidSnake

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« Reply #53 on: 08-24-2013 05:07 »

I'd see a Fry-less episode. IF it was the Zapp Brannigan centered one they were going to do.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #54 on: 08-24-2013 17:05 »

Lethal Inspection has a few more Fry lines IIRC, or at least they're more substantial. Most of Fry's lines in Notch are just incidental lines that aren't even jokes (one or two is just one or two word lines like "over here!"). Also, I think in Notch it's more jarring because he's still actually around through much of the episode, but he just doesn't talk most of the time.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #55 on: 08-24-2013 21:56 »
« Last Edit on: 08-24-2013 21:57 »

I'd be as willing to watch a Fry-less episode as any other ordinary episode. Just because Fry would be absent from the entire episode doesn't mean it'd be a bad one.

Heck, there are many, many episodes, especially in the original run, where Fry says almost nothing at all. To name a few, there's That's Lobstertainment, Raging Bender, The Honking, Kif gets Knocked up a notch, Obosletely Fabulous, etc. and most of those episodes had a pretty good response (other than Lobstertainment). Would have giving Fry a larger role in these episodes helped their quality? Most likely no.

Saying you wouldn't watch an episode of Futurama that's Fry-less is like saying you wouldn't watch an episode of The Simpsons simply because it was Homer-less. Would having Homer in it really even make a difference in the episode's quality? Probably not.

Although Fry is essentially the main character, the show is basically about the entire Planet Express crew, not just Fry. So really, Fry-less or Fry-ful, His presence in an episode doesn't make a difference to me, although he is an exellent character, and my favorite after Zoidy and Farnsworth.
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #56 on: 08-24-2013 23:10 »

I agree, aside from The Honking. He has a pretty important role in that episode.
WitchRaven

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« Reply #57 on: 04-16-2014 18:26 »
« Last Edit on: 04-16-2014 19:52 »

Guess I would watch an episode like this.  Doesn't matter to me.  Even would watch one with Leela or Bender.  Hermes, Amy, and Zoidberg aren't in some.   If Fry wasn't in one episode....  What would the reason be?  Unless there was a reason for his absense....

That's how meaningless the characters are to me.

Motor Oil

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« Reply #58 on: 04-16-2014 20:49 »

Of course. I'd actually look forward to an episode without Fry more than an ordinary one—what's the reason for his disappearance? Who will be the star of the episode?
An episode with no Fry whatsoever would be for a purpose. They wouldn't just leave out something like that. I'm sure it would be interesting.
An episode with a Fry having very few lines and no major part is not something that I would enjoy less. But I am all for an episode like that. I would love getting to see what the crew is like without Fry around.
Stefanie

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« Reply #59 on: 04-26-2014 21:07 »

I would definitely watch an episode without Fry.
lackofmops

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« Reply #60 on: 07-21-2014 18:30 »

No, it wouldn't be Futurama.
ShinyMetal***

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« Reply #61 on: 06-26-2015 21:41 »

That's like asking "would anyone want some lemonless lemonade?"
And it's replaced with the artificial stuff. Which is still good, but not as good as the lemon ones. So therefore, I would watch one, with the expectation of it being not as good as the ones with fry in it.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #62 on: 06-27-2015 03:21 »

That's like asking "would anyone want some lemonless lemonade?"
And it's replaced with the artificial stuff. Which is still good, but not as good as the lemon ones. So therefore, I would watch one, with the expectation of it being not as good as the ones with fry in it.

The thing is, more than a third of Futurama episodes feature Fry as the protagonist, and at least another third involve a Fry B-plot. I understand that early in the series it was necessary to have Fry help drive the story for the then-less-developed characters (Why Must I Be a Crustacean in Love, How Hermes Requisitioned his Groove Back, etc).

Toward the end of the show it really wasn't necessary. Amy, Professor and Zoidberg were strong enough characters to drive episodes on their own but they rarely did, which was a bit unfortunate. I would've loved it if Hermes became less of a one-note character, and had something to do other than make bureaucracy and weed jokes.

I'm not sure if they always planned on keeping the show focused on the three primary characters; Fry, Bender and Leela, but having it evolve into more of an ensemble cast would've been cool to see unfold.
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #63 on: 06-27-2015 03:35 »

Agreed, but I always kinda liked the Fry/Leela/Bender focus. I think they all compliment each other, and in episodes where all the characters are heavily featured, it always feels like too much to me.
ShinyMetal***

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« Reply #64 on: 06-27-2015 03:43 »

I hear what you're trying to say Unreal, and I agree I mean I feel like they didn't let some of the other characters reach their potential.
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #65 on: 06-27-2015 15:00 »

I hear what you're trying to say Unreal, and I agree I mean I feel like they didn't let some of the other characters reach their potential.

I actually feel like they did a lot to give all the characters a chance to shine. The show was on for a longggggg time, and I feel like all the characters have a few episodes where they get to be a central part of the plot.
                                     
ShinyMetal***

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« Reply #66 on: 06-27-2015 16:07 »

Yeah, but more towards the end of the series some stronger characters such as Zoidbeeg and the professor, ect, could have held the show up just fine and had more episodes based around them too. The fry, leela, and bender basis was also a huge success though so I'm not complaining. I see both point of views here
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #67 on: 06-27-2015 16:27 »

Zoidberg actually had pretty much an entire episode dedicated to him under his belt during the final season. But I get what you're saying.
Beamer

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« Reply #68 on: 06-27-2015 16:36 »

I just don't see how much different this would be to any of the episodes where Fry's barely featured at all. There are some episodes where he only has a handful of lines, and these episodes aren't regarded any differently because of it. Futurama's an ensemble show - any character could be left out for one episode every now and then and it'd still work. Like every other episode of the show, a Fry-less episode would ultimately be judged on its overall quality, rather than on which characters it does and doesn't feature.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #69 on: 06-28-2015 04:19 »

Zoidberg actually had pretty much an entire episode dedicated to him under his belt during the final season. But I get what you're saying.

He's had a few throughout the show. Off the top of my head: WMIBACIL, TL, ATOF, TTOTZ, VMV, SAS (Man, those are shitty acronyms). tongue

Futurama's an ensemble show - any character could be left out for one episode every now and then and it'd still work.

This is true, but with my previous post I was hoping it could've been more of an ensemble show. It became a bit more relaxed toward the end of the show but It would've been nice to have more episodes focusing of the lesser characters, and fewer dumb ones like Yo Leela Leela.
athena1999

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« Reply #70 on: 06-29-2015 03:16 »

I also noticed how the series drifted toward becoming more of an ensemble show, particularly how some episodes (Lethal Inspection and The Tip of the Zoidberg come to mind) fleshed out other characters by giving them not only a backstory, but the opportunity to interact with characters they don't spend much screentime with. Ultimately, the plot and the dynamic between the characters determine whether or not an episode is bound to have a strong story.

The reason why Fry works so strongly as a character is that he can essentially balance out any other character who is on the more extreme end of any spectrum. For instance, he doesn't have Bender's inclination toward chaotic evil, and he isn't as prone to Leela's emotional outbursts. However, he isn't as passive or naive as, say, Zoidberg. Fry serves as a neutral straight man to everyone else in the series, which is why you could pair Fry up with anyone and create a good balance between the characters.

However, most of the other main characters do seem fleshed out enough to hold up the show on their own, and several episodes mentioned above (Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch seems to be the prime example) basically have Fry relegated to a background character but still manage to have a strong, well-paced plot that elicits good emotional reaction from the viewer.

It's definitely doable, but it would require just the right combination of characters (preferably those who complement each other), the right plot, and possibly some meaningful character development. It seems to work best with Fry because of his role as a relatively neutral character-- not only does he complement any character, but it also gives him a greater opportunity for character development without taking him massively out of character.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #71 on: 06-29-2015 07:33 »

That's a solid analysis, athena, and I think I agree to a certain extent. But I feel like a lot of early episodes that paired Fry with a secondary character, such as "Put Your Head on my Shoulders", have Fry acting really wacky and irrational for some reason. This was one of the first episodes to start fleshing out the other Planet Express staff (and curiously, the episode that establishes Zoidberg's poverty) and at this stage Amy just kind of floated around without doing much. In this case, Fry was the one being outrageous and had the comparatively passive and "normal" Chinese Martian Physicist balance the duo out.

I think I've forgetten what I was even trying to say. I need to let my brain do the talking rather than my fingers. facepalm
Beamer

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« Reply #72 on: 06-29-2015 12:35 »

However, most of the other main characters do seem fleshed out enough to hold up the show on their own, and several episodes mentioned above (Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch seems to be the prime example) basically have Fry relegated to a background character but still manage to have a strong, well-paced plot that elicits good emotional reaction from the viewer.

Another thing worth mentioning is that I doubt the writers ever sat down and decided "let's make an episode with very little Fry" before writing any such episodes. There was definitely a conscious effort made to flesh out the supporting characters in season 2 (note that Amy, Hermes, Zoidberg and Farnsworth each get their own episode this season), but other than that, the show comes about very organically, and a character's involvement in any given episode is usually determined by how the story develops - and, to a lesser extent, how much time they have for the characters who are inavdertently marginalised by the plot.

This, of course, begs the question: Is this hypothetical Fry-less episode some sort of stunt - or, at the very least, something consciously decided by the writers going into it - or is it simply "an episode that just happens to not feature Fry?"
winna

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« Reply #73 on: 06-29-2015 20:57 »

Yes.
Chris9000

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« Reply #74 on: 12-04-2015 12:52 »

Yes why not. There have been episodes where he was basically just in the background. Maybe had a few lines.
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