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KidDynamite1991
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« on: 08-24-2010 02:18 »
« Last Edit on: 08-24-2010 02:26 »

I wasn't sure where to post this, and it's my first post too, but I just wanted to mention that I think it's amusing that when Farnsworth can't figure something out, the only people who can are the Harlem Globetrotters. XD! Are there people who have outsmarted them in the show, or are they really the smartest, because that's what it feels like. Not taking this post too seriously, I just wanted to see what other people think.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #1 on: 08-24-2010 02:55 »

I don't think the Harlem Globetrotters are supposed to be smarter than the Professor. I always thought they were meant to be about equal and thus, a pretty damn good helping hand. 2 brains are better than 1, etc.

The Vincians are probably the smartest characters portrayed in the show to date, but I'm probably missing someone.
Jarvio

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« Reply #2 on: 08-24-2010 03:03 »

This probably belongs in the human resource forum. Anyway, Worstrom may be some competition to the prof. Also the cats in that darn katz. And maybe the monkey guy in a clockwork origin
jeepdavetj

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« Reply #3 on: 08-24-2010 03:16 »

What about God/satellite guy. The one Bender "ran" into.

Oh and the Brains.
KidDynamite1991
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« Reply #4 on: 08-24-2010 04:01 »
« Last Edit on: 08-24-2010 06:01 »

You have an excellent point cyber turnip. Just a thought.

And thank you Jarvio, I wasn't really sure but I suppose that makes sense as that's the one that deals with characters. I don't know about the cats because the crew(actually just Amy and Nibbler) outsmarted them, but it's definitely a feasible answer. I don't remember the monkey guy. I have just recently got back into the series.

And I completely forgot about the "God" being. I suppose he probably is the most intelligent. By the way, are the brains the ones from the one where they join the army, or are those balls? I can't remember the brains either.

Also, I thought about the worms that infested Fry, but I don't know about them either.

cyber_turnip

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« Reply #5 on: 08-24-2010 04:45 »

The brainspawn were in The Day the Earth Stood Stupid and The Why of Fry. They're the Nibblonians' arch enemies.
The big brain that all the little ones work for knows everything ever up until the events of The Why of Fry, so it's got to be pretty smart. I'm not so sure about the rest of the brains though.

And I don't think the worms are particularly smart. They made Fry smarter through manual labour to increase his brain's power.

And the monkey guy, Dr. Banjo, can't be that smart because he's so against the theory of evolution...

Cubert certainly has the potential to be as smart as the Professor although The Late Philip J. Fry suggests his life will take a different route.
Erdrik

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« Reply #6 on: 08-24-2010 04:57 »

Well Fry is a pretty good motivation against being dumb.
So Cubert may well end up down a yet different path.

As for the Big Brain, vast knowledge can only take you so far.
Understanding, creativity and many other mental aspects are what makes one smart.
I don't recall the Big Brain displaying anything more than encyclopedic knowledge.
KidDynamite1991
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« Reply #7 on: 08-24-2010 06:05 »

Ah, I recall them all now. It's just been so long since I've seen many of the episodes. Thank you. And I didn't consider Cubert, but you're right,  he certainly has a potential in this aspect.
PumaGirl

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« Reply #8 on: 08-24-2010 21:37 »

From this season I find it quite weird that they (or Farnsworth in particular) would need the HG to solve a fairly straightforward mathematical problem. Surly the prof couldn't do all his stuff (i.e. crazy inventions) without the power of mathematics.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #9 on: 08-24-2010 23:26 »

Yeah, I agree. It was fair enough that he couldn't solve it initially because his mind wasn't on the task. He wanted to run off and have fun in Bender's body.

But at the end, it did feel somewhat out of character.
Kryten

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« Reply #10 on: 08-25-2010 05:11 »

I wasn't sure where to post this, and it's my first post too, but I just wanted to mention that I think it's amusing that when Farnsworth can't figure something out, the only people who can are the Harlem Globetrotters. XD! Are there people who have outsmarted them in the show, or are they really the smartest, because that's what it feels like. Not taking this post too seriously, I just wanted to see what other people think.

Well, they're probably behind Farnsworth in his prime, but now that he has that whole senility thing going, they're ahead.
hobbitboy

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« Reply #11 on: 08-25-2010 14:37 »

Just because someone is a great scientist, or a great inventor, or a great engineer it doesn't automatically mean that they are an equally great mathematician.

Don't hate me, Trinity.  I'm just the messenger.
Aki

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« Reply #12 on: 08-25-2010 16:01 »

Vincians > Farnsworth = Globetrotters > Wernstrom = Banjo. I think. Banjo believes in something purely by faith, which is never good in science, and Wernstrom constantly proves that he's way below Farnsworth, he's just more likable in the scientific community for some reason. The Galactic Entity is wise but not intelligent in the same way that the Professor is, and thus I don't know where to put him. The Brain Spawns are, as someone already pointed out, allknowing, but not very creative or wise.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #13 on: 08-25-2010 17:06 »

Just because someone is a great scientist, or a great inventor, or a great engineer it doesn't automatically mean that they are an equally great mathematician.
No, but Farnsworth has demonstrated that he's good at maths countless times in the past. Time Keeps on Slippin' and Bender's Big Score both have him doing complex maths with the Globetrotters and they all seem to be on fairly equal pegging. And to keep up as well as he did with the Vincians, it's implied that you'd still have to be very good at maths. At least by our standards.

Plus Farnsworth is very good with physics specifically, and you can't be a great physicist without being a great mathematician.
FemJesse

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« Reply #14 on: 08-25-2010 17:34 »

Fry might be the most emotionally smart person on the show if we're talking different kinds of intelligence. At first you would assume Leela is because she's a nosy and irrational woman, but she doesn't know to stay out of people's personal business and its a sign of emotional immaturity.

Fry's reactions are always genuine and he does think about the long term repercussions of his actions when it pertains to his relationships with others; particularly with Bender and Leela. Earning Leela's love and respect is his long term goal and he very rarely deviates from that. When he does he is often punished in some form, but most recently that punishment has taken the form of personal guilt.

Leela used to tout his immaturity as the primary reason she wouldn't date him. Maybe somewhere along the way she noticed he is more emotionally intelligent than her and that's why she defends him at the beginning of The Duh-Vinci Code.

"His intelligence is different-y."
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #15 on: 08-25-2010 17:45 »

I'd say Scruffy beats Fry for emotional intelligence.

Fry still slips up here and there such as in Attack of the Killer App when he posted that video of Leela online.
FemJesse

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« Reply #16 on: 08-25-2010 18:42 »

I'd say Scruffy beats Fry for emotional intelligence.

Fry still slips up here and there such as in Attack of the Killer App when he posted that video of Leela online.

That was his mental stupidity, not emotional. He realized it was selfish and wrong and went to do something about it. Thats emotional intelligence.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #17 on: 08-25-2010 19:21 »

How was that mental stupidity? He knew what he was doing was wrong and that it'd upset Leela, but chose to do it anyway for his own personal benefit.
FemJesse

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« Reply #18 on: 08-25-2010 20:16 »
« Last Edit on: 08-25-2010 20:27 »

At the time he wasn't thinking with his emotions. He didn't want to swim in the goat vomit so he found a way he wouldn't have to. Its more logical than not. Emotions, passion... do not usually jive with logic.

It's the reason Fry is so dumb and yet so smart.

You don't think with your emotion. Emotional intelligence demands natural empathy, in return you receive sympathy, and in time love. Or as Leela would put it "Boyish Charms."

Its something humans and some apes do, its not really that common in other animals.

Schadenfreudes would be the opposite of this. Kind of pure evil, but also a sign of emotional intelligence. Fry displays schadenfreude for example when Leela's wedding is sabotaged in Bender's Big Score and on a separate occasion when the Professor threatens to neuter him and Geunter.
zoidstein

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« Reply #19 on: 08-26-2010 08:25 »

What about Yivo? Just powerful but not smart?

There are also the poor brainy advanced folks who got massacred by the Dumblocks.
Aki

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« Reply #20 on: 08-26-2010 11:36 »
« Last Edit on: 08-26-2010 11:43 »

What about Yivo? Just powerful but not smart?

Nothing every claimed Yivo was intelligent.

There are also the poor brainy advanced folks who got massacred by the Dumblocks.

You're right, those are probably the smartest in the show.

edit: But if they're so smart, how come they're DEAD?

Sorry.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #21 on: 08-26-2010 15:11 »

Wernstrom seems to be smarter than Farnsworth sometimes.    Also, I think Fry is dumb both socially and academically. 
FemJesse

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« Reply #22 on: 08-26-2010 17:24 »

.. but not emotionally.
Aki

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« Reply #23 on: 08-26-2010 18:37 »

Wernstrom seems to be smarter than Farnsworth sometimes.
When?
jeepdavetj

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« Reply #24 on: 08-27-2010 01:21 »

Wernstrom seems to be smarter than Farnsworth sometimes.
When?

He did get tenure.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #25 on: 08-27-2010 02:08 »

What about Yivo? Just powerful but not smart?

Nothing every claimed Yivo was intelligent.

Yivo would have to have pretty incredible brainpower to do what he did (going on billions of dates at once) for example. That sort of juggling act would require a crap-load of intelligence.
Chives

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« Reply #26 on: 08-27-2010 08:07 »

What about Yivo? Just powerful but not smart?

Nothing every claimed Yivo was intelligent.

Yivo would have to have pretty incredible brainpower to do what he did (going on billions of dates at once) for example. That sort of juggling act would require a crap-load of intelligence.

I don't know; if Yivo's gender is close to the human male in terms of dating strategy, all he had to do was nod and say "uh huh" many millions of times at once.
SpaceCase

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« Reply #27 on: 08-27-2010 16:50 »

Yivo would have to have pretty incredible brainpower to do what he did (going on billions of dates at once) for example. That sort of juggling act would require a crap-load of intelligence.

  • Not necessisarily; There's a difference between intelligence and having the "mental bandwidth" to divvy up ones attention among many things at once.
  • Billions?
    Not hardly!
    IIRC, Yivo said something like, "... all forty quadrillion of you..."

... all he [Yivo] had to do was nod and say "uh huh" many millions of times at once.

Uh huh...  laff  wink


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