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Cinimod

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« on: 10-20-2008 20:22 »

It is a well known fact that Fry became his own grandfather in 1947 (Roswell that Ends Well) However, at this time Enus (Fry's Suspected Grandfather) died before this happened. If Enus was dead, and not the father, at the time of Yancy's birth then Fry would be the natural person to give the child his surname. However Fry had left by this time and so surely the child would have been given Mildred's last name.
no.9 man

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« Reply #1 on: 10-20-2008 21:28 »

Maybe Phillip is a person like her brother. That would have influenced her decision.
Cinimod

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« Reply #2 on: 10-20-2008 21:32 »

Maybe Phillip is a person like her brother. That would have influenced her decision.
What?
And have you looked at your mesages?
Officer 1BDI

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« Reply #3 on: 10-20-2008 21:36 »

I'd always assumed that Mildred gave Yancy Sr. her surname, since she wasn't married to Enos when he died (so why bother giving her son his surname?).  I don't recall them ever saying that Enos was actually a Fry.
Cinimod

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« Reply #4 on: 10-20-2008 21:40 »

I'd always assumed that Mildred gave Yancy Sr. her surname, since she wasn't married to Enos when he died (so why bother giving her son his surname?).  I don't recall them ever saying that Enos was actually a Fry.
Oh yeah, I never thought of that.
no.9 man

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« Reply #5 on: 10-20-2008 22:13 »

Yes stop asking me that.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #6 on: 10-21-2008 18:31 »

It could be possible that Enos wasn't Fry's grandfather after all.  In the episode Luck Of The Fryish his father told Yancy his grandfather was named Yancy. 
iceiwynd

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« Reply #7 on: 10-22-2008 00:41 »

No, he didn't - the writers point that out in the commentary. Yancy Sr. tells Yancy Jr. that his son's name is Yancy, just like his name is Yancy, just like his grandfather's name is Yancy. He doesn't mention his father's name at all.
robertojamison

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« Reply #8 on: 12-13-2008 06:44 »

Interesting .....Im guess Mildred chose to take Enos's name as a memory.
My Own Grandpa

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« Reply #9 on: 12-13-2008 20:03 »
« Last Edit on: 12-13-2008 20:07 »

No, he didn't - the writers point that out in the commentary. Yancy Sr. tells Yancy Jr. that his son's name is Yancy, just like his name is Yancy, just like his grandfather's name is Yancy. He doesn't mention his father's name at all.

Yeah, you're right. Maybe Mildred's father's name was Yancy. That would be Yancy Sr.'s grandfather, and the most likely explanation is that Mildred's last name is Fry, and her father's name was Yancy Fry. I'm sure the writers were already planning the plot twist of "Roswell That Ends Well" when they wrote "Luck of the Fryrish". After all,  they had "The Why of Fry" semi-planned at the time of "Space Pilot 3000", so Yancy mentioning his grandfather instead of his father was almost certainly written in order to keep these facts straight.

Anyway, it would look pretty screwy on a family tree: Phillip Fry II, son of Yancy Fry Jr., brother of Phillip Fry I, son of Yancy Fry Sr., son of Mildred Fry and Phillip Fry I. I wonder how the layout would look like?
Archonix

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« Reply #10 on: 12-13-2008 21:21 »

Ever seen a mandelbrot?
SpaceCase

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« Reply #11 on: 12-14-2008 08:49 »

Ever seen a mandelbrot?

Nope.

If you mean Fry's family doesn't branch, I'd tend to agree...
I'll just ooze back out under the door now...

KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #12 on: 12-16-2008 19:59 »

Since it's been revealed that Ignar is Farnsworth's son, does that mean he's related to Fry?   Should Ignar be in Fry's family tree? 
My Own Grandpa

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« Reply #13 on: 12-16-2008 22:37 »

Since it's been revealed that Ignar is Farnsworth's son, does that mean he's related to Fry?   Should Ignar be in Fry's family tree? 


I know, but it doesn't make sense, because Leela distinctly said in SP 3000 that Farnsworth was Fry's last remaining decendent. Probably Ignar wasn't listed as such. Still seems like a bit of a contradiction, but there's plenty of 'em in the movies.
Smarty

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« Reply #14 on: 12-24-2008 07:00 »

I know, but it doesn't make sense, because Leela distinctly said in SP 3000 that Farnsworth was Fry's last remaining decendent. Probably Ignar wasn't listed as such. Still seems like a bit of a contradiction, but there's plenty of 'em in the movies.
Maybe it is because Farnsworth didn't know, and Mom wanted to hide it up, so he was never filed...or whatever...as Farnsworth's son.
FryFangirlLisa

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« Reply #15 on: 01-04-2009 08:29 »
« Last Edit on: 01-04-2009 08:32 »

Hey, that sounds like a pretty good theory, Smarty!  ^^

And you know, I was wondering about this same topic myself, when I was watching Bender's Game. 
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