Originally posted by SonicPanther:
I am going to set out to prove that we've had this discussion in every official shipper thread and both Deep Down threads.
Don't bother. We have.
I've also breathed today. And every other day in my life. Except for that one time when I almost died.
Speaking of which, I've had the influenza this past week, so that why I've been critically absent. Trapped, all alone in a closed room with nothing but a copy of Pride and Prejudice
and a college calculus textbook.
I read them both.
Incidently, this is the anti-shippyest thread title we've ever had. Shipping Statute 437-B prohibits
romantic relations between coworkers.
Wait, I correct myself. That's Interstellar
Shipping Statute 437-B. I don't know what PEEL
Shipping Statute 437-B says, but I do know that Inter
PEEL Shipping Statute 437-B prohibits stating that Leela does not consider Fry as future husband/ boyfriend material. So that's alright then. Nice title, fine lass.
The penalty for violating InterPEEL Shipping Statute 437-B is having to listen to me commencing a two hour sobbing session.Now you know!
To continue...I should warn you all, I accidentally bumped the original original shippers' thread a few units of time ago while attempting to copy and repost the following. A wrong button here, a wrong button there, and me without my quarterstaff. It's officially closed, so please do refrain from posting in it. It would be extremely damaging to anyone with a reputation. Which I lost a long time ago, if indeed I ever possessed it. So... Apathy reigns supreme until it drops back into the depths, Ok?
Originally posted by Beamer:
I DO think that Leela was the "other one" Nibbler was referring to - but I don't think it was a hint they were meant for eachother or anything. I think Nibbler deliberately froze Fry at that time for a reason. After all - if he had been frozen any earlier - he wouldn't have met Bender (who played a vital roll in Fry's getaway from Leela) and if he had froze him any later that day - he wouldn't have met Leela (keep in mind that I think Fry was her last unfreezing for that day, as she said she wanted to make it quick so she could get to new years celebrations). Now - the freezing moment would have had to occur within 30 seconds of that time so Fry could have met both Leela and Bender, right?
Now - let's keep in mind that if Fry hadn't managed to escape that far (thanks to Bender bending the bars), he probably wouldn't have convinced Leela to join Planet Express. Now, what does this have to do with Nibbler's comment? Well, look - almost every time Fry has almost died, it's been Leela who saved him. If it wasn't for Leela - Fry wouldn't have survived. I think Nibbler refers to Leela as "the other" because she is pretty much Fry's protector, and the rest of the stuff I brought up pretty much explains why Nibbler would have had to have frozen Fry at that moment.
So, basically - I don't think Nibbler's comment had anything to do with Fry and Leela's love life or anything - I think it was simply because Leela is the sole reason Fry hasn't died yet. Although this is just some theory I've come up with - it does make sense. Perhaps they were planning to explain it later on, but until I see proof of that - I'm sticking with my "Fry's protector" theory.
Maybe it will be explained in The Devils Hands Are Idle Playthings, considering that seems to be the only unaired Fry & Leela heavy episode left. Damn... this post went on quicker than I expected. Oh well, at least I've shared my little "other one" explanation here.
Originally posted by boingo2000:
Beamer, that's a good theory. A damn good theory. Although we see in Why of Fry that Nibbler has no knowledge, so it does assume that the Nibblonian's prophecy was unusually specfic for that kind of thing. But hell, who am I to say it wasn't? Unfortunatly, "Devil's Hands" aside, I don't think they had time enough to really go into it before FOX pulled the plug. It does seem like a Futurama-style thing to do though, doesn't it? To have Nibbler say later on: "You thought that... You and... Oh, no, she's just your guardian. Sorry to lead you on."
Originally posted by David A:
This "other" business reminds me of a line from The Books of Magic
For those of you not familiar with it, The Books of Magic
was a comic book series by John Ney Reiber (based on an earlier miniseries by Neil Gaiman, of Sandman
fame). It was the story of Tim Hunter, an ordinary boy who learns that he has the potential to become the greatest magician of his time (something referred to as "an opener" or "the opener" by various characters throughout the series).
Anyway, at one point in the series, there were these gargoyles spying on Tim and his girlfriend, Molly. After observing Tim and Molly for a while, one of the gargoyles said, "He's an opener, isn't he? And that girl, she's his other."
Unfortunately, we never got to find out what that meant. Not long afterwards, John Ney Reiber left the book. The new writer took it in a different sort of direction and apparently decided that Molly wasn't "the other" after all. "The other" turned out to be this evil version of Tim from an alternate universe who was travelling from universe to universe, killing all of the other Tim Hunters, so that he could be the one, true Tim Hunter.
Nibbler's line about Leela being "the other" always made me think of that gargoyle saying that Molly was Tim's "other". I suppose that we'll never find out what Nibbler meant, though; just like we never found out what that gargoyle meant.
Originally posted by Evil Abe:
I believe the "other" reference was referring to a relationship between Leela and Fry.
1) First off I don't buy the guardian theory because Leela does save Fry often. Fry as almost died a few times but have been save by others such as car crash in PYHOMS by Zoidyberg. The suicide both in the Pilot with Bender. The waterfall in MU he was saved by Gunther.
2) The reason for my thinking is when Fry tells Nibbler Leela does think much of him, Nibbler says don't give up and he will do what we can. So what does Nibbler do in a thousand years lets himself become Leela's cute little pet. This is not just to watch Fry, because if this was the plan he would have become Fry's pet somehow. I think he became Leela pet to help breakdown some of those emotional barriers she has by being cute. Leela is a lot more open with her feels around/with Nibbler. Even though Nibbloians don't like being considered cute.
3) Now this is just a possible theory. Maybe just maybe this why in ISTE Bender was able to flush Nibbler and why he did not just come back on his own. I think Nibbler could out think Bender and return on his own. The reason being Nibbler wanted Leela to go to sewers. He probably new she was a mutant and not an alien and thought bring her there she might run into her long lost parents.
Originally posted by futz:
If you check the Alien Language Signs section at The Leela Zone/Futurama Madhouse you'll under the "My Three Sons" set there is a poster behind Leela as she is walking down the street with Fry. It says "The Eye Will Come". In Fry's Opera in Devil's Hands" his lyrics refer to Leela as "like a baby Moses" that might deliver her people. We don't know if that would be mutants, humans, or the Universe yet. Perhaps Fry is starting to have unconscious flashes of the future due his exposure to time travel.
It was Leela who checked Fry's genetics when he woke up. If there was anything there about being related she probably have said something. But then again, at the time she thought she was an alien. Her genetic database at her old job didn't know everything.
We tend to see the 31st century through Fry's eyes which means we're missing about a 1000 years of history.
Originally posted by Shiny:
The Nibblonians are nicer than the Vorlons. I agree they didn't know about Fry's past nastification until it "happened" (until Fry knew it happened), then they put two and two together.
The Nibblonians took Fry's life away, but they tried to make his future life decent. They protected his building from the destruction of the alien saucers, they kept his bank account open and gathering interest, they even made sure his favorite brand of beer survived. They weren't out to enslave him, just make sure he was available at the crucial time.
Originally posted by Venus:
I'm assuming Nibblonian prophecies are a lot like Buffy/Angel prophecies. Vague. Maybe they knew enough that he was meant to meet 'the other' at a certain timeframe but didn't know who 'the other' actually was so they couldn't just capture and hold her until the time came to use them. In order to understand why the Nibblonians did anything we would have to actually hear what the prophecy said, which may or may not happen depending on how valid the movie rumor is.
Originally posted by Gopher:
Well, they already work together though, don't they? Fry couldn't have saved the world from the brain slugs without Leela's help, and Fry would probably have died 50 times over in his first year in the future without Leela to bail him out. By seasons 3 and 4 Bender probably would have saved fry if he could, but in season 1 he would most likely pointed and laughed as Fry got mugged/killed/eaten/etc.
None the less, if all Leela was supposed to do was protect fry, the Nibblonians wouldn't make such a big deal of her as "the Other" since if it came to it Nibbler could always have protected
Thinking back to "The Why of Fry" it seems that whoever the Other is (I believe it's Leela), they're clearly connected to fry, probably romantically.
Originally posted by Digital Dragon:
I see three likely options:
1. Leela is significant because Fry's love for her will give him the strength to save the universe (again) at some point.
2. Leela is significant because she will be the mother of Fry's child and Fry's bloodline must be continued to have someone around immune to the brains after he dies.
3. Leela isn't significant at all and Nibbler is a manipulative bastard.