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i_need_help

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« Reply #80 on: 02-12-2008 22:47 »
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I don't think Zapp took Leela's virginity. I think the quote was just a joke about the content of Zapp's web page and the fact that no one's personal life is really personal anymore.

Frida, I can see your point about Al where Leela wanted to continue the cyclops race, but I didn't get your theory of Leela getting involved in relationships to have a baby in any of the other relationships you named. Personally, I think that Leela is looking for love and more importantly for her- someone so she won't be alone anymore. She's had a rough and lonely past. And I think that she wants the family that she didn't have growing up.
Also, I'm surprised you didn't mention Adlai Atkins. He was the only man that Leela discussed having children with.


woo! TOPD
NastyInThePasty

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« Reply #81 on: 02-12-2008 23:56 »

Yeah, but Adlai barely gave her a peck on the cheek. Not exactly the most passionate of Leela's suitors.
fryandlemon

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« Reply #82 on: 02-13-2008 00:40 »

 
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What makes this so difficult to foresee is because of how little we know of Leela's views of sex.
I think we're given enough insight to Leela's views on sex.  She's very liberal minded in that sense and if she really likes a guy on the first date, she's more than willing to have sex with him.  I doubt it's because she wants a child with him, it's because Leela's a passionate person and can be blind sighted by these emotions to make such a decision so quickly.

 
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Zapp Brannigan- Yes, Sean did come before her one night stand with Zapp, but I can only assume that Zapp Brannigan's the one who stole her virginity from the quote in "I Second that Emotion". Violet, the gilled mutant, quoted, "Nice try, Leela, but we've all seen Zapp Brannigan's webpage." Leela regrets sleeping with Zapp, because it was purely out of pity for who knows what.
I disagree with you and agree with i_need_help, it was just a joke about the contents of Zapp's webpage.  Judging by the way she slept with Zapp so quickly and only out of pity, it feels that if she had been a virgin at that point, then she would have been far more reluctant.  Also, she seemed to have gotten into a pretty deep relationship with Sean before, and taking into account how fast Leela is willing to jump into sex on pretty much all the dates we've seen her on, I have to assume that they had already had sex prior to her meeting Zapp.

 
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Philip J. Fry (with Parasites)- Well, we can assume that she "might" have had sex with Fry up until the point when he got rid of the worms, on account of the fluffy lingerie she was wearing. This puzzles me.
Chaz (the Mayor's Aide)- I guess Leela loved him enough to do it with him.
As I stated before, Leela's a pretty passionate person who lets her emotions get the better of her sometimes.  She was head over heels for Fry on that date, and was completely won over by Chaz and his power.

I remember Shiny writing an excellent paragraph about Leela's views on sex way back in the forums, does anyone know where it is?


 
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Maybe I'm getting that all wrong. Leela just seems to responsible (well, ignoring Zapp's case) to have sex with all these different men without waiting until they were in a stable relationship (like marriage) because she is fully aware of the risk (children).
Well, Leela isn't that responsible.  She's made terrible mistakes in the past about men.  Emotions are her weakness, especially love for another man.  She can get so blindsighted and lose all sense completely when she falls head over heels for someone.

I believe that if the writers want to give Fry/Leela a child, they'll get a child.  If the writers don't want to give Fry/Leela a child, they won't and they'll make up some excuse.  We can wonder all we want, but no answer we'll come up with can be more right than another.
THM

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« Reply #83 on: 02-13-2008 14:19 »

 
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I believe that if the writers want to give Fry/Leela a child, they'll get a child.  If the writers don't want to give Fry/Leela a child, they won't and they'll make up some excuse.  We can wonder all we want, but no answer we'll come up with can be more right than another.

True; Leela and Fry's relationship, or lack of it, rests with the writers, so the addition of a child follows the same rule. :/

That being said, it's fun to speculate.  smile

As to what kind of personalities...tough one. It'd depend on a lot of factors: whether s/he/they were adopted (and at what age), which parent had the more influence (probably Leela, on consideration), and how s/he/they reacted to it. The possibilities (especially if you factor in more than one kid) are endless. But very interesting to think about.  big grin

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Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #84 on: 02-13-2008 19:10 »
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Originally posted by Frisco17:
The only problem with that theory is the fact that people have sex all the time married or not and don't have children, usually becuase of birth control of some sort. I would assume that's something that would have been totally perfected in 1,000 years.

I wonder if Leela uses contraceptive items or not. She's come off me like one of those women who wouldn't use a condom because it "takes away from the fun".

Leela may not have to use contraceptive items at all, knowing how she might be infertile.

   
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Originally posted by Frisco17:
 As far as age is concerned I think we discussed earlier that ages are most likely different in the future. I mean the Professor is 160 odd years old and he's in better shape than most 90 year olds now.

But we never came to a conclusion!

I'm going to bring this point up again. A female starts out with about 24 million or something egg cells in her body. Those egg cells form while still in the mother's whom, who should be in about the second or something trimester of pregnancy, but they are immature. While still in the whom, during the third trimester of the mother's pregnancy, that number tumbles down to 12 million or something egg cells. That number continues decreasing into puberty, with like about a million or so egg cells left. So, by the time a woman enters her 40's, very few egg cells are left. So, I don't believe the prime age for childbearing has changed much over the past 1000 years. Yes, you may say that lifespans of people have increased, but that's because of improved healthcare. If you bring up Mom, please realize she is a wealthy and powerful woman. Therefore, she would have had every technological advancement at that time.

I personally believe that Mom's sons were carried by surrogate mothers, cloned from her and the Professor's DNA, or were carried by Mom a very long time ago but were frozen for many years. A business woman like Mom wouldn't give up her time for pregnancies.

 
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Originally posted by i_need_help:
Frida, I can see your point about Al where Leela wanted to continue the cyclops race, but I didn't get your theory of Leela getting involved in relationships to have a baby in any of the other relationships you named. Personally, I think that Leela is looking for love and more importantly for her- someone so she won't be alone anymore. She's had a rough and lonely past. And I think that she wants the family that she didn't have growing up.
Also, I'm surprised you didn't mention Adlai Atkins. He was the only man that Leela discussed having children with.

Oh... right. I'm very blant about the fact that Leela has had other lovers besides Fry. As a shipper it's hard to see her with anybody else. Thanks for that slap across the face.

About my list, I only included the men that we know Leela has already had sex with or was going to have sex with. I wasn't so sure to put on Sean, because he's only referenced so few times. Others, especially Adalai, never came close to hopping under the covers with her.

 
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Originally posted by fryandlemon:
I think we're given enough insight to Leela's views on sex. She's very liberal minded in that sense and if she really likes a guy on the first date, she's more than willing to have sex with him. I doubt it's because she wants a child with him, it's because Leela's a passionate person and can be blind sighted by these emotions
 
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As I stated before, Leela's a pretty passionate person who lets her emotions get the better of her sometimes.  She was head over heels for Fry on that date, and was completely won over by Chaz and his power.

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Well, Leela isn't that responsible.  She's made terrible mistakes in the past about men.  Emotions are her weakness, especially love for another man.  She can get so blindsighted and lose all sense completely when she falls head over heels for someone.

Oh right... Leela's emotions... Another hard slap in the face by fryandLemon. And I believe I was the one who said that Leela's emotions drive her to extremes. Where is my head?

I agree with you, nonetheless. That entire post was an idea of mine that came up one day in the shower. It didn't make sense to me, but I posted it. You'd think Leela would make the responsible decisions on account of she's a space captain.

Fry and Leela make a good balance as a couple. Leela's very physical about life. She makes the physical right choices for survival, but makes some dumb emotional choices. Fry, on the other hand, makes some dumb physical choices on life (drinking 100 cans of Coke in a week, getting trashed on Listerine, etc.), but he support Leela emotionally in "The Sting". *I'll get back to this point in the new Shipper's thread. I don't have the time to think this through.

 
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Originally posted by fryandlemon:
I remember Shiny writing an excellent paragraph about Leela's views on sex way back in the forums, does anyone know where it is?

Find it and post the link here. I want to read it.

 
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Originally posted by fryandlemon:
I believe that if the writers want to give Fry/Leela a child, they'll get a child.  If the writers don't want to give Fry/Leela a child, they won't and they'll make up some excuse.  We can wonder all we want, but no answer we'll come up with can be more right than another.

That's thinking like a writer! Now, it's us fans job to decide whether or not they would want to introduce a child between the two. It's fanon, baby!
i_need_help

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« Reply #85 on: 02-13-2008 19:44 »

The show never brought up any method of birth control, but since it is 1000 years in the future the science of birth control has probably come a long way. In several episodes Leela's lack of impulsiveness is remarked on, so I think that even if she jumped right into sex with someone she'd have protection whether it be condoms or some other form of birth control.
Also for most of her life Leela thought she was an alien. We've mentioned Kif's children before. I would think that cross species children are possible. Leela had no reason to think she was sterile - when she was with Alkazar she mentioned continuing the Cyclops race. if she was sterile it wouldn't be an issue. - 

You hear stories about women in their 50 and 60's carrying  children. Granted most of them have been with donor eggs - but if you planned ahead and froze some eggs a woman could carry her own children in her 60's and I do think that in 1000 years medicine would have advanced enough that a woman in her 70s and 80s would have the ability to carry children. I would think that some people would look at this as a valid option. Spend the first 70 years of your life indulging in years of "wild hedonism" then finally settle down and start a family.


And just cause I wanted to fit it in somewhere "Remember, no glove no love"
futz
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« Reply #86 on: 02-13-2008 20:21 »

You know if they think this much about it for sure nothing's going to happen.   laff
Sounds like you just want senarios so here's one:

Leela undergoes fertility treatment to make a child using a donor from the Galaxy of Stars and Important Guys frozen sperm service. Broke from the early treatments Leela entrusts the donor sperm and the actual fertilization to Dr. Zoidburg. Fry somehow accidentally destroys part the the donor sperm messing around in Dr. Zoidburg's office. Not knowing how it is intended to be used he replaces part of it with his own. Nine months later Leela give birth to octuplets. Four resemble Fry, four resemble Zapp. When Leela calls the 800000 number of the Donor Service to ask why they don't look like the Senator she picked she is told something about a slow week and fine print.

And yes, 35 years later, it is one of the those offspring resembling Fry that destroys a significant portion of the Galaxy while attempting to brush his teeth.
Frisco17

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« Reply #87 on: 02-13-2008 20:45 »

HAHA! Classic Futz.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #88 on: 02-13-2008 20:53 »
« Last Edit on: 02-13-2008 20:53 »

Please excuse Futzy; he's been reading "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" for days straight with no bathroom breaks while listening to a tape to teach him the ancient language of pig Latin, ate only the E-Coli infected spinach from the 2006 outbreak, and soiled his pants (my jeans were originally navy blue, but now I've made them olive khaki). OCTUPLETS WERE ALREADY DONE IN THE SIMPSONS, D'OH!
Frisco17

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« Reply #89 on: 02-13-2008 21:00 »

Yeah and I think Fry's part in that "story" was stolen from Peter Griffin.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #90 on: 02-13-2008 21:38 »
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Originally posted by i_need_help:
Also for most of her life Leela thought she was an alien. We've mentioned Kif's children before. I would think that cross species children are possible.

Kif's species and the science around it is just for the writer's ability to turn it into a sci-fi animated comedy-drama. Most (all?) invertebrates don't gestate their offspring because of their structure. Our backbone gives most mammals the support to gestate young. Also, the entire "love, touch, offspring" concept is very unrealistic. I'm sure if Kif was tapped by a fly, he'd still have offspring of his species, just with certain characteristics of a fly. You didn't see any of them with pink flesh or purple hair, did you?

Besides, this is about Leela's fertility, not Kif's ability to get pregnant to any organism.

 
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Originally posted by i_need_help:
Leela had no reason to think she was sterile - when she was with Alkazar she mentioned continuing the Cyclops race. if she was sterile it wouldn't be an issue. -

That's not a stable fact. Leela could have believed that she was infertile before when she thought she was an alien. With Alcazar, she thought that her and him could have had children because she thought they were the same species. Understand?

All I just want to say is that Leela's probably going to be labelled as "infertile" in the medical world. "Infertile" in the medical world is usually defined for a couple who can't concieve a child within a year. Leela would probably have difficulty concieving a child, not only with whatever lies in her mutant body, but also her age.

Leela may not be infertile at all. I just assume so because of her mutant ancestry, her age, and the fact that she's had sex at a very fertile age and has probably never went through a pregnancy scare makes me believe so. Infertility comes as a good excuse for the writers to let Fry and Leela have sex before they get married so they don't do a repeat of the Simpson's marriage and they could have them enjoy their marriage for some time without children.

 
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Originally posted by i_need_help:
You hear stories about women in their 50 and 60's carrying  children. Granted most of them have been with donor eggs - but if you planned ahead and froze some eggs a woman could carry her own children in her 60's and I do think that in 1000 years medicine would have advanced enough that a woman in her 70s and 80s would have the ability to carry children. I would think that some people would look at this as a valid option. Spend the first 70 years of your life indulging in years of "wild hedonism" then finally settle down and start a family.

If you look around, common families in the 31st century are still young. For example, take the Conrads. Hermes had Dwight at age 35, which is an average age to have children today. I doubt that all citizens go through treatments to make them look younger- that's a bit too much for Futurama. I don't know if this counts for anything, but in the deleted scene for "Time Keeps on Slippin'", Bender accused Fry of getting Leela pregnant. So, I'm going to assume that Fry and Leela were at an acceptable age to get married and have children in the future.
futz
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« Reply #91 on: 02-13-2008 21:46 »
« Last Edit on: 02-13-2008 21:46 »

Bored of the Rings actually. And it wasn't spinach (uck!) it was too much whole wheat bread.

Umm... is this about Leela or Kate?
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #92 on: 02-13-2008 21:49 »

 
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Originally posted by futz:
Umm... is this about Leela or Kate?

Kate who? Kate Hudson? Mary-Kate? Kate Monster?
futz
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« Reply #93 on: 02-13-2008 21:51 »

Segal.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #94 on: 02-13-2008 21:52 »
« Last Edit on: 02-13-2008 21:52 »

I prefer "Katey". "Kate" could be short for Katherine and whatnot...

What is this "this" that you are talking about?
futz
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #95 on: 02-13-2008 21:54 »

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katey_Sagal

Review the Personal Life section.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #96 on: 02-13-2008 21:59 »

Oh, yes. I've read about that before. What about it?

On that topic on Katey Sagal, Leela, and feelings on pregnancy, do you think Katey would be confortable voicing for a character who might be infertile/struggling through a pregnancy/had miscarriages? In "Married... with Children", she was willing to continue with the baby plotline after the miscarriage, but the writers decided to drop it and do a Dynasty.
futz
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« Reply #97 on: 02-13-2008 22:19 »
« Last Edit on: 02-13-2008 22:19 »

Don't know. Futurama characters only loosely derive some traits from the voice-actors, things don't get very biographical. You'd probably need a writer with a similar experience and who could still keep it Futurama. Then consider whether Katey would be comfortable in doing it. It may be too personal or painful or maybe not.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #98 on: 02-13-2008 22:24 »

I don't know if they'll make Fry and Leela have children in the series run. That gets into alot of dispute alone.

If it was ever to be considered, they'd probably keep the pregnancy a "happy" thing for both the voice actress's confort and because its an animated sitcom.

Hey, do you know if Leela's birthdate is the same as Katey Sagal's (only in 2975)?
THM

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« Reply #99 on: 02-13-2008 22:25 »
« Last Edit on: 02-13-2008 22:25 »

Tough to say. (By which I mean, whether they'd do a miscarriage/tough pregnancy story.) She might be fine with it, with the miscarriage being as far into the past as it is now; or, she might not, not wanting to dredge up the past.

And if they did a story (or arc) where Leela was infertile/technically infertile, there's always the Professor on hand to provide an insane, line-that-shouldn't-be-crossed solution - which I'm sure the writers are glad of.   big grin

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« Reply #100 on: 02-14-2008 21:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Frida Waterfall:
Hey, do you know if Leela's birthdate is the same as Katey Sagal's (only in 2975)?

I think so it is. Not sure where I saw it but I'm pretty sure it's January 19. The only other one I've ever seen is Fry's which I believe is August 9.
Officer 1BDI

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« Reply #101 on: 02-14-2008 21:28 »

I don't remember where the August 9th birthday came from.  I know in the calendar they used Billy West's birthday, which is in April (but they also put his birthyear + 1000 years, so I assumed it wasn't really meant to be Fry's), and in the pilot script his birthday is July 13 (which is the one I've always gone with for no particular reason).
Frisco17

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« Reply #102 on: 02-14-2008 21:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Officer 1BDI:
I don't remember where the August 9th birthday came from.

I think it's in the commentary on one of the early episodes.
futz
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« Reply #103 on: 02-14-2008 22:27 »

One missing from the Leela list?

i_need_help

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« Reply #104 on: 02-14-2008 22:49 »

how about the guy with the lizard tongue?
Sedna

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« Reply #105 on: 02-14-2008 22:56 »

Those I think would count more as jokes for the story rather than dates.

(No reason they shouldn't be both, I guess; I just don't take a few of them seriously since they were such brief one-shots.)
NastyInThePasty

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« Reply #106 on: 02-14-2008 22:57 »

I doubt Leela even got to a goodnight kiss with that guy (and with good reason).
i_need_help

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« Reply #107 on: 02-14-2008 23:18 »

Yeah. I was just being stupid. Burn....to me
futz
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« Reply #108 on: 02-15-2008 09:45 »

Speaking of Birth Certificates today is Matt Groening's 54th birthday.
Frisco17

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« Reply #109 on: 02-15-2008 22:48 »

Wow! I never knew he was that old.
NastyInThePasty

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« Reply #110 on: 02-15-2008 23:17 »

Happy birthday, Matt!  smile
Xanfor

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« Reply #111 on: 02-15-2008 23:45 »

I know several women who find the concept of a guy with a lizard tongue to be quite intriguing.
Officer 1BDI

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« Reply #112 on: 02-16-2008 13:16 »
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In light of the PEEL forums acting so bizarre (thanks for the warning, Mr. Snart), I've saved the text of this thread.

Just thought you guys would like to know that, including avatars and some really odd spacing scheme, this takes up 70 pages of a Word document.

   
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All I just want to say is that Leela's probably going to be labelled as "infertile" in the medical world. "Infertile" in the medical world is usually defined for a couple who can't concieve a child within a year.

That's a really narrow definition of infertility for the medical community to use.  The chances of conceiving a child without any form of birth control are about 25%, and that's not taking into account the chances that the zygote actually makes it to embryo status.  How many women have miscarried without even realizing they were pregnant to begin with?

...And that has nothing to do with the thread, so moving on:

   
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Leela may not be infertile at all. I just assume so because of her mutant ancestry, her age, and the fact that she's had sex at a very fertile age and has probably never went through a pregnancy scare makes me believe so. Infertility comes as a good excuse for the writers to let Fry and Leela have sex before they get married so they don't do a repeat of the Simpson's marriage and they could have them enjoy their marriage for some time without children.

I want to throw out that the lack of a "pregnancy scare" could indicate there's something amiss with Amy as well.     wink

I'm of the mindset that Leela would be really, really careful with birth control.  I don't see her blindly charging into sex without some sort of protection (she's invested too much in her body to even consider that, IMO), and just because she's known for jumping into bed with men she's just met doesn't necessarily mean that she didn't do it unprepared.  As has been said, it's the future, and it's not a stretch to think that contraception choices have become widely varied over the centuries.  Maybe condoms and diaphragms and other "barrier" forms of protection are outdated because they've discovered vaccines and other preventive methods for STDs and pregnancy.  Leela may not have had a pregnancy scare because she's so careful about it that she's never had a reason to be concerned.

That said, I agree that the infertility route would be a desired path for the writers because it would allow them to avoid the potential pregnancy issue entirely if so desired.  If it were revealed that Leela was infertile, I wouldn't be surprised, and it would largely be for this very reason.
Futurama Llama

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« Reply #113 on: 02-16-2008 21:54 »

...Wow, this thread really exploded. I want to thank Frida and 1BDI for really leading this thing, and the many other contributors.

I don't think Leela will have trouble with fertility. Anything is possible in the future. Just look at Farnsworth. He's 165ish and still kickin'. Whats to say a human and human-mutant can't conceive?
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #114 on: 02-16-2008 22:21 »
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There's another possibility that Leela could be taking an annual shot that prevents cervical cancer, lowers the chances of pregnancy, and other things. I don't know if many of the writers know of such a shot though...

 
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Originally posted by Futurama Llama:
I don't think Leela will have trouble with fertility. Anything is possible in the future. Just look at Farnsworth. He's 165ish and still kickin'.

That's with age. Fertility is a different issue. This is discussed in recent posts of mine.

 
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Originally posted by Futurama Llama:
Whats to say a human and human-mutant can't conceive?

Science!

We don't know if a human sewer mutant's pregnancy is more or less severe as a human's pregnancy. Leela would physically have to care and carry a child that is half human and half mutant (human sewer hutant). That half-human child might be very stressful and the rates of miscarriage skyrocket from the differences. It's probably going to be similar to when two animals are both the same species but are from two different sub-species. For example, Fry would be comparable to a dingo or gray wolf to Leela, who's going to be a species of domesticated dog like Siberian Husky or beagle.
Xanfor

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« Reply #115 on: 02-17-2008 09:36 »

 
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Originally posted by Frida Waterfall:

  Science!

We don't know if a human sewer mutant's pregnancy is more or less severe as a human's pregnancy. Leela would physically have to care and carry a child that is half human and half mutant (human sewer hutant). That half-human child might be very stressful and the rates of miscarriage skyrocket from the differences. It's probably going to be similar to when two animals are both the same species but are from two different sub-species. For example, Fry would be comparable to a dingo or gray wolf to Leela, who's going to be a species of domesticated dog like Siberian Husky or beagle.

"Good heavens Miss Waterfall - you're beautiful!"
I - I don't believe it!
There she goes again!
She's tidied up, and I can't find anything!
All my tubes and wires;
And careful notes;
And antiquated notions;
But! - it's poetry in motion...
And when she turned her eyes to me,
As deep as any ocean;
As sweet as any harmony!
Mmm - but she blinded me with science...

She blinded me with science!

Futurama Llama

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« Reply #116 on: 02-17-2008 09:59 »

Thomas Dolby. Nice, Xanfor.

Okay, Frida, you used the dingo to the domesticated dog analogy. So, look at the sewer mutants as a race. None of them are similar at all, like humans, but humans have the same basic DNA structure. Mutants, I assume now, do not. So, wouldn't there be no mutant babies because it would be, basically, sub-species mating?
futz
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« Reply #117 on: 02-17-2008 14:43 »

I see it more as a wolf to dog comparison that are virtually indentical in their DNA.

If the difference is greater well then - good news!:  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=liger
Kryten

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« Reply #118 on: 02-17-2008 15:30 »

Well, think about it... Leela was able to crossbreed with KIF.

Does she really have more in common genetically with a boneless alien than she does with a human?
Futurama Llama

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« Reply #119 on: 02-17-2008 16:28 »

That's true, but Frida adressed that in one of her above posts.
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