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Futurama Llama

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« on: 02-03-2008 00:35 »
« Last Edit on: 02-03-2008 00:35 »

'Sup.

This thread is here to discuss what Fry and Leela's kids would look like. I know this type of thread has happened before, but there aren't any current ones.

So, badabing, badaboom. Enjoy.

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Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #1 on: 02-03-2008 01:18 »
« Last Edit on: 02-03-2008 01:18 »

You make what should be a joyful, cutsey thread sound like the billboards you find in a skate park.

But, yeah, I've been waiting for a topic like this to spawn since I've joined PEEL. I've attempted to discuss this topic over at Futurama Madhouse's forums to only get ridiculed by what I would define as the preteenage female airhead breed of n00b (Officer 1BDI knows fully well of my feud).

First, let me just state my views at the current time (they've been changing as new content arrives). Right now, I'm limbo on whether or not Fry and Leela should get together in the series. In very recent news, it has been revealed that the series has been renewed beyond the four Futurama movies (it hasn't hit the press at the time of writing). Before "Bender's Big Score", I honestly thought that it would be too difficult for the writers to maintain the relationship and it would be in best interest to wait until the final episode to unite the two and paste a heartwarming epilogue at the end of that whatever-part episode. Post-"Bender's Big Score", the relationship was essentially broken up into several shards that could be glued back together, but it wouldn't have the quality as it did before. The option of cutting it off earlier than the final episode was at my favorite at that time. Momentarily with the rumor of a Leela and Amy lesbian becoming a one-time plotline for new Futurama material beyond the movies, I am clueless to where I stand.

I have some weird fan idea that Leela will have difficulty conceiving a child. For some reason, I believe that if "typical" (depends on what you call typical after getting his reproductive organs getting struck by the f-ray and solving his sterility through parasites which amped up his entire system) sperm such as Fry's were to enter Leela's mutant body, her antibodies (which have been mentioned in both "Leela's Homeworld" and Futurama Comic *"Cure for the Common Cold" ) would destroy Fry's sperm before they could reach her eggs. That's just a crazy fan theory by me, but there could be other reasons why she might not be able to conceive.

If Leela was somehow able to conceive, I believe that her pregnancy will be much more "severe" that the regular humans. I'm not sure why I think this. It may require more energy for her to carry a human child because of the differences in development. We really don't know how this will pan out because we know only a scarce amount of information about mutants.

Now about their children... I don't think they'll have too many. Not only are they passing up the prime age to have children, has the thought of the mother's attitude towards the pregnancy crossed your mind? Leela loves all life, mainly animals and children. Leela is also known for her active lifestyle and being against any forms of sexism. A pregnancy would prevent her from participating in most physical activities (such as piloting or wrestling) and her energy will drain much quicker than normal as the baby grows. In society, pregnant woman are looked upon as being in a temporarily physically handicapped condition. This makes others more obligated to hold doors and preform other acts of kindness just for their condition. Last, being a cyclops, Leela's not going to get the exact same treatment as any other pregnant woman. I could already imagine a scene where Leela's browsing the shelves at a grocery store when some little girl runs up to her, unknowing that she has one eye, and when Leela turns to the little girl when she gets Leela's attention, she runs away to her mom, screaming, and then her mom gives Leela the dirtiest look. Do you realize how devastating that would be to Leela?

*Sorry if I mislead you to believe that it was comic #21 at the time. I don't know where my brain was when typing.
Officer 1BDI

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« Reply #2 on: 02-03-2008 02:28 »
« Last Edit on: 02-03-2008 02:28 »

 
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Originally posted by Frida Waterfall:
But, yeah, I've been waiting for a topic like this to spawn since I've joined PEEL. I've attempted to discuss this topic over at Futurama Madhouse's forums to only get ridiculed by what I would define as the preteenage female airhead breed of n00b (Officer 1BDI knows fully well of my feud).

Wha...  Oh, right. >_>

Most of you already know about my idea of what their offspring might look like, but Frida brings up some excellent (and I think often overlooked) points.  Just because we're no under the disillusion that Leela is an alien doesn't mean she and Fry can easily conceive a child together, if they can even do it at all.

I haven't read comic #21 yet, and I honestly don't remember antibodies being mentioned in LH, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if that were the case.  We don't know how different Fry and Leela actually are biologically, and I think it's perfectly reasonable to suggest that her body may simply reject normal human sperm.  I wasn't going to reveal this initially, but since we're on the subject: in my own twisted fanon the Nibblonians (secretly) played a role in Emmy's conception because the odds of Leela getting pregnant on her own terms and maintaining the pregnancy without miscarrying were severely small because of her background and the subtle but noteworthy differences between her genetic makeup and Fry's.

Anything else I can think of mentioning about the subject I already said in my huge post in this thread.

ETA: It doesn't matter what number comic it was; I knew which one you were referring to, I just haven't read it yet.  smile
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« Reply #3 on: 02-03-2008 04:57 »

Leela is a mutant. Even though she is the most normal looking mutant ever, she still has all those other mutant genes.

It's quite possible that any offspring will take take after their maternal grandparents and be hideous twisted mutants and would end up being shipped away to the sewer by the authorities and Fry and Leela would never see their children again.
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« Reply #4 on: 02-03-2008 05:12 »
« Last Edit on: 02-03-2008 05:12 »

   
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An hour ago upon finding out that a new episode beyond the four movies based upon a "fan" comic is going to be produced, I was disgusted with the decision to have Leela and Amy go through a lesbian fling, so I felt that I wouldn't care what they would do with the Fry and Leela relationship because I would lose all interest in the show by that point.

I think what you saw at FM/TLZ is a joke.  Even for lecherous old men like myself, an ep like that would push the envelope too far and alienate of the fanbase.  Not to mention that I would have a hard time believing that The BOX network would ever commission producing such a story.

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HOLY CRUD.  It's not April 1st and I just read the update at FM/TLZ.  It seems to be a real deal.

Seeing it in a fan fic comic is one thing, but to actually make an episode based on that comic?

Whoa.  I'm proud of being a middle-aged lech, and I really can see where DXC and Groening may be going with that idea.  Tackle a controversial issue with one of their most beloved characters and show the discrimination that she would suffer from such a relationship.  It would also highlight the unconditional love that Fry has for Leela and the hidden and suppressed love she would have for him.

AND IT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST USE OF THE RESET BUTTON EVER!

And yes, I can see Groening giving this the go-ahead.  He's the one who pushed for a gay character in The Simpsons.

I was one of the people who e-maled the author of the comic and sang praises to him for tackling the subject.  He replied back that he got several positive comments and very few negative comments.  That's to be expected - sci-fi fans tend to be more accepting of such things.

Really, I gotta think about this - time will tell if this is legit or a work. 
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« Reply #5 on: 02-03-2008 06:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Frida Waterfall:
In very recent news, it has been revealed that the series has been renewed beyond the four Futurama movies (it hasn't hit the press at the time of writing).
For some reason this doesn't fill me with joy...

 
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Originally posted by Frida Waterfall:
 An hour ago upon finding out that a new episode beyond the four movies based upon a "fan" comic is going to be produced, I was disgusted with the decision to have Leela and Amy go through a lesbian fling, so I felt that I wouldn't care what they would do with the Fry and Leela relationship because I would lose all interest in the show by that point. Upon finding out that the entire plot would be pulled off as a dream thus making good use out of what was considered the "evil" reset button, I have to think the entire Fry and Leela relationship through for the next few weeks (thus also leading to another delay in my official "Bender's Big Score" Review).

And this is why... honestly, are they doing some sort of Futurma reboot? Futurama 2.0? Let's throw away all the previous 72 episodes and pretend they didn't exists? Because it feels like that to me. First sign of that was ( at least for me) BBS. And now this? I don't like it... I don't like it all.  no no

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« Reply #6 on: 02-03-2008 08:18 »
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Originally posted by Frida: An hour ago upon finding out that a new episode beyond the four movies based upon a "fan" comic is going to be produced...

I have a hunch immortal is pulling your collective legs or has strayed to far into the Wannabe Zone.
Archonix

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« Reply #7 on: 02-03-2008 08:44 »

Actually the story is that the comic is based on an actual script and was floated as a trial balloon to see how the fans would react. Make of it what you will.

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NastyInThePasty

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« Reply #8 on: 02-03-2008 09:09 »

Personally, if Leela and Fry were to have a child together, it'd probably split the difference and have three eyes.  wink
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« Reply #9 on: 02-03-2008 11:28 »

it's a joke.  There is no way in the world that they will make a movie about a lesbian fling between Amy and Leela
THM

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« Reply #10 on: 02-03-2008 15:14 »
« Last Edit on: 02-03-2008 15:14 »

Yeah; like I've said elsewhere, it's an interesting idea, but the likelihood of 'BOX' actually making it is remote. *crosses fingers and hopes*

EDIT: My apologies. Here's my thoughts on the actual topic. *ahem*

It could very well be that Leela and Fry could have difficulties on their own; that being said, I'm sure that someone as organised as Leela would make sure that A) they went to genetic counselling, had tests done, etc., and B) kept the adoption option on the table. Then again, she might just go with adoption as the first option; after all, she did that with Adlai.

Natural or adopted, it'd be interesting to see how Leela and Fry, especially Fry, adapted to being parents. Of course, likely having been married to Fry for awhile before they had kids, she'd at least have some experience in dealing with children.  big grin

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« Reply #11 on: 02-03-2008 15:31 »

On the one thread where I briefly mention the controversial Futurama Graphic Novel, everyone only comments about that instead of the thread's real topic, Fry and Leela's children. There's now a thread about this entire situation in the "General Discussion" forums.
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« Reply #12 on: 02-03-2008 16:18 »

 
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Originally posted by NastyInThePasty:
Personally, if Leela and Fry were to have a child together, it'd probably split the difference and have three eyes.   wink

FRY: Leela, why does our child have three eyes?
LEELA: I, uh, wouldn't know.
NIBBLER: *guilty look*

Because I have a reputation to maintain now.  smile
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« Reply #13 on: 02-03-2008 16:32 »

 
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Originally posted by Archonix:
 FRY: Leela, why does our child have three eyes?
LEELA: I, uh, wouldn't know.
NIBBLER: *guilty look*

Because I have a reputation to maintain now.   smile

Archonix, you sick freak! Nibbler can't climb that high!

By the way, check out my first post on this thread. I added some more information that protains to this topic.
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« Reply #14 on: 02-03-2008 20:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Archonix:

FRY: Leela, why does our child have three eyes?
LEELA: I, uh, wouldn't know.
NIBBLER: *guilty look*

Because I have a reputation to maintain now.   smile

Oh, there are pics of Nibbler-on-Leela action.  no no

Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #15 on: 02-03-2008 20:27 »

 
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Originally posted by Archonix:
 FRY: Leela, why does our child have three eyes?
LEELA: I, uh, wouldn't know.
NIBBLER: *guilty look*

Because I have a reputation to maintain now.   smile

You couldn't resist?   laff   big grin   no no That is the funniest thing I've read today.
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« Reply #16 on: 02-03-2008 20:27 »
« Last Edit on: 02-03-2008 20:27 »

 
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Originally posted by Frida Waterfall:
On the one thread where I briefly mention the controversial Futurama Graphic Novel, everyone only comments about that instead of the thread's real topic, Fry and Leela's children. There's now a thread about this entire situation in the "General Discussion" forums.


Sorry about that. Please note the edit to my post.

Ralph Snart: Really? There are pictures of that? Ugh; the internet is a very creepy place sometimes. :/

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« Reply #17 on: 02-03-2008 20:36 »

 
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Ralph Snart: Really? There are pictures of that? Ugh; the internet is a very creepy place sometimes. :/

That it is most surely not.

Huh?  What?
SonicPanther

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« Reply #18 on: 02-03-2008 20:42 »

 
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  Really? There are pictures of that?

Of course there are. Rule 34.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #19 on: 02-03-2008 20:45 »
« Last Edit on: 02-03-2008 20:45 »

Please don't post that.

Curse your rule 34!!!!!!

I'm going to say that half their kids would have 1 eye and the other half would have 2 eyes. I would help if we knew if teh mutant gene was resessive or dominant.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #20 on: 02-03-2008 20:56 »

 
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Originally posted by THM:
It could very well be that Leela and Fry could have difficulties on their own; that being said, I'm sure that someone as organised as Leela would make sure that A) they went to genetic counselling, had tests done, etc., and B) kept the adoption option on the table. Then again, she might just go with adoption as the first option; after all, she did that with Adlai.

It's hard for me to see Fry and Leela going for genetic counseling. It is something that I need to see to understand.

I don't know if Fry is allowed to adopt a child after he was arrested for endangering the dozen orphans that Bender adopted. Leela's probably not as interest in adopting after that episode, as well. I think it was only an option for Leela because she had two eyes at that time. If she adopted a child as a cyclops, they've already known about the outside world and might not accept her as well. After all, they're kids who've hit reality rather quickly. The only exception to that is Sally, but the time that Leela would get around to adopting is by the time she's grown up, and I'm sure she would have reconnected to her mutant parents by that point.

 
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Originally posted by THM:
Natural or adopted, it'd be interesting to see how Leela and Fry, especially Fry, adapted to being parents.

I'll be getting into greater detail when this comes up again. You know, when we actually start discussing the children themselves, but let's not rush into it.

 
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Originally posted by Ralph Snart:
 Oh, there are pics of Nibbler-on-Leela action.   no no


Can you post a link?
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #21 on: 02-03-2008 21:01 »
« Last Edit on: 02-03-2008 21:01 »

Oh geez. If that link gets posted I'll end u[p following it. And if it doesn't get posted I'll search out of shear boredom. So whatever.

Yes I'm insane and odd.

Yo, 1BDI can I have a link to your stories with Emmy?
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« Reply #22 on: 02-03-2008 23:35 »

Because I've already delt with this comic thing three times on three different threads I won't discuss it here.

Instead I'm going to go out on a limb and talk about the actual topic. The genetic issues that Frida and a couple of other people brought up are possible but in my opinion not likely. Most mutants are vastly different from eachother and are able to reproduce just fine. I isn't like we're talking about a human haveing a kid with oh lets say a wookie were there would be huge genetic incompatabilities. We're talking about a human and a mutated human and since the mutants can reproduce with each other it doesn't seem like repoduction is affected to much by the mutations. So I doubt there would be a problem, though it is definitly possible.
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« Reply #23 on: 02-04-2008 00:59 »
« Last Edit on: 02-04-2008 00:59 »

   
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Yo, 1BDI can I have a link to your stories with Emmy?

The only place those chapters exist right now are in my head, otherwise I'd gladly give you a link.

   
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I would help if we knew if teh mutant gene was resessive or dominant.

I'm willing to bet that there isn't a single "mutant gene," but rather the mutants' DNA is highly susceptible to mutations, hence the wide range of various phenotypes amongst the mutant population.

   
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I don't know if Fry is allowed to adopt a child after he was arrested for endangering the dozen orphans that Bender adopted.

A bit of a sidetrack, but wasn't Bender already a confirmed felon by the time he adopted the dozen orphans?  I get the feeling the rules are extremely lax in the future, or at least at that particular orphanarium.

   
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We're talking about a human and a mutated human and since the mutants can reproduce with each other it doesn't seem like repoduction is affected to much by the mutations.

Not all mutations are beneficial or harmless, though.  Just because none of the mutants we've seen are dying from their unique traits doesn't mean harmful mutations never happen.  For all we know, it might be extremely hard to conceive a mutant child (and on that note, I'd like to throw out that I can't remember ever seeing a mutant child in that village, and only a handful of teenagers); I suspect the miscarriage and infant mortality rates are pretty high down there, due to the combination of unsanitary conditions and the wide range of possible mutations (hell, I suspect Leela was not Morris and Munda's first child, but that's just another fleeting bit of personal fanon).

   
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Now about their children... I don't think they'll have too many. Not only are they passing up the prime age to have children, has the thought of the mother's attitude towards the pregnancy crossed your mind?

I think the definition of "prime" might change in the future, given how long people tend to live in the 31st century, but your other point is something I've considered quite a bit, actually (though perhaps from a slightly different angle).  Given Leela's current lifestyle, I agree that she probably wouldn't take to pregnancy (or even motherhood... initially) as well as she may want to, or believe she "needs to."  Taking care of an embryo/fetus/infant/child/whatever stage is a HUGE responsibility, and while she's certainly capable of it, she's also dedicating a huge chunk of herself to another life form and limiting herself in the process.  Babying Nibbler is one thing, but even while under cover he's not completely dependent on her in the same way that a baby would be.

I don't see her pulling an Amy and running away to preserve her accustomed lifestyle, but I don't see her happily settling down into the role of a homemaker, either (nor would I expect her too).  I just think it would be interesting to see how she handled it.

   
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Last, being a cyclops, Leela's not going to get the exact same treatment as any other pregnant woman. I could already imagine a scene where Leela's browsing the shelves at a grocery store when some little girl runs up to her, unknowing that she has one eye, and when Leela turns to the little girl when she gets Leela's attention, she runs away to her mom, screaming, and then her mom gives Leela the dirtiest look.

That would be pretty devastating even if she weren't expecting, but I can definitely see something like that confounding any fears she has about being a good mother to her own child.
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« Reply #24 on: 02-04-2008 02:01 »

I don't think that Fry and Leela would have a problem adopting. Mr. Vogle (eep! I think that's his name!) let a robot felon adopt 12 children and offered them to a single Fry.  Also he seemed to like Leela. I don't see him not letting them adopt because she has one eye.
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« Reply #25 on: 02-04-2008 02:11 »

 
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Originally posted by Officer 1BDI:
Not all mutations are beneficial or harmless, though.  Just because none of the mutants we've seen are dying from their unique traits doesn't mean harmful mutations never happen.  For all we know, it might be extremely hard to conceive a mutant child (and on that note, I'd like to throw out that I can't remember ever seeing a mutant child in that village, and only a handful of teenagers); I suspect the miscarriage and infant mortality rates are pretty high down there, due to the combination of unsanitary conditions and the wide range of possible mutations (hell, I suspect Leela was not Morris and Munda's first child, but that's just another fleeting bit of personal fanon).

You've brought up an interesting point. I'll try to figure out something with this in mind. I had something, but I'm not sure where exactly it went. I'll be back.

 
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Originally posted by Officer 1BDI:
I think the definition of "prime" might change in the future, given how long people tend to live in the 31st century...

I question the "prime" age. Hermes was 48 in Futurama Comics #20, so that means he had Dwight at approximately 35. I'm going to take my guess and say that "35" in the future is the "25" of now, considering how young LaBarbara must have been to be married to Barbados Slim. Today, "25" is the common age with many considerably young couples. So, I'm going to assume that in the future, 25-35 is considered relatively young, and 35-45 or 50 is considered for those who want to start a foundation. I'm not sure- you can make your own conclusions off of Hermes's age.

 
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Originally posted by Officer 1BDI:
Given Leela's current lifestyle, I agree that she probably wouldn't take to pregnancy (or even motherhood... initially) as well as she may want to, or believe she "needs to."  Taking care of an embryo/fetus/infant/child/whatever stage is a HUGE responsibility, and while she's certainly capable of it, she's also dedicating a huge chunk of herself to another life form and limiting herself in the process.  Babying Nibbler is one thing, but even while under cover he's not completely dependent on her in the same way that a baby would be.

I was just talking about the pregnancy itself. Leela will be very irritated by the disabilities the pregnancy will bring on, but she's willing to strive for the baby she's carrying. After making it through her first pregnancy, I think she'll throw in the towel on childbirth and make sure that it would be her last.

I could see Leela trying to tough out some strains of pregnancy, claiming that other expectant mothers are too frail and aren't fit for the physical job. Instead, she's only claiming that because she's trying to mask up she's struggling through the pregnancy herself, just like any other pregnant woman. For example, if somebody were to give up their seat for her, she'd refuse but then cave in after a minute and casually take it.

 
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Originally posted by Officer 1BDI:
I don't see her pulling an Amy and running away to preserve her accustomed lifestyle, but I don't see her happily settling down into the role of a homemaker, either (nor would I expect her too).  I just think it would be interesting to see how she handled it.

Leela would never become a homemaker. Ever. She might love her child, but there are better ways around these things.

I haven't heard anybody suggest this before, and if you haven't even thought of this, you must kick yourself because it's such a simple solution to the homemaker/working mom question. I actually believe that Fry and Leela will be able to balance their lives so then they could raise their child both at home, in the office, and on the Planet Express Ship during missions. At first, they might struggle and Leela will try being a stay-at-home mother for her child, but the two both decide that it would be best for Leela's interest to include the child on missions. Of course, things will change once the child enters school, but it would work out during the infant and toddler years.
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« Reply #26 on: 02-04-2008 02:17 »
« Last Edit on: 02-04-2008 02:17 »

   
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Leela would never become a homemaker. Ever. She might love her child, but there are better ways around these things.

*blinks*

I.. ah, jeeze, I didn't mean for it to come out like that.  In no way did I intend to suggest that Leela would have to resign herself to the life of a stay at home mother once she became pregnant, because that's just... extremely stupid and OOC.

I agree with you 100%, and that's what I meant to come across with, but when I reread my last post I see that it sounds like I was saying she would have to choose between the two extremes, rather than find the happy medium you're describing (which I have considered.  Way too many times) and... ooh, that's not what I meant at all.  It's too late at night for me to be typing. >_<
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« Reply #27 on: 02-04-2008 05:07 »

On the other hand, and not advocating any position, Leela always strikes me as a bit of a conservative thinker at heart. She might force herself to sit in what she believes is the ideal of motherhood out of a desire to be more accepted by her peers, or because that's the way it's always been done. Lets face it, the woman got surgery to look "normal", and if she thinks "normal" means sitting at home 23 hours of the day to change stinkies and make baby food then she'd probably force herself to do exactly that. I'm not saying she'd like it or enjoy it. In fact she'd probably hate the thought of having children afterwards largely because she forced herself into such a negative role during the whole process.

And then she'd hate Fry - or whomever - for "forcing" the whole deal on her.
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« Reply #28 on: 02-04-2008 11:15 »

 
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Originally posted by Frida Waterfall:

 Can you post a link?

No, that's a banable offense.  Kryten and I had a little spat last week that almost got me banned.

Send me an e-mail and not only will I send you the link, I'll send you the pic(s).

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« Reply #29 on: 02-04-2008 11:36 »
« Last Edit on: 02-04-2008 11:36 »

^ That's closer to what I wanted to say last night: Damn it, I take too long to type.

Archonix's post is closer to what I wanted to say last night: the idea that Leela would feel obliged to become the "perfect" mother and and force herself to give up her career in the name of some warped perception of normalicy.  I think eventually she and Fry would figure out some arrangement along the lines Frida described that allowed them to either keep the baby with them at work or ensure than he was being taken care of while they were off doing various things, but I wouldn't be surprised to see her initially try "the ideal of motherhood" because she somehow thought she needed to.

And because I didn't catch this before:

   
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It's quite possible that any offspring will take take after their maternal grandparents and be hideous twisted mutants and would end up being shipped away to the sewer by the authorities and Fry and Leela would never see their children again.

I think I brought this up at TFM's forum and nothing really came out of it, but if their baby was seriously mutated, how do you think they'd try to hide it from those with the authority to ship their kid (and Leela) back to the sewers, or do you think they'd try to hide it at all?  Leela's alien excuse worked because she was reportedly the only one of her kind on the planet, but their baby would have parents that he could be compared to, and depending on the severity of the mutations, it may be blatantly obvious that the baby is neither alien nor a standard human.
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« Reply #30 on: 02-04-2008 11:51 »
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I realized something about the "prime" age. We do know that whatever the "prime" age is, the age when the average woman hits menopause is an influencing factor to it. The menopause age remains the same in any era, its only the lifespan and lifestyle that affects the "prime" age for those periods. Therefore, I can conclude that the "prime" age is probably below 45 and might just be the same as it is now.

   
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Originally posted by Archonix:
On the other hand, and not advocating any position, Leela always strikes me as a bit of a conservative thinker at heart. She might force herself to sit in what she believes is the ideal of motherhood out of a desire to be more accepted by her peers, or because that's the way it's always been done. Lets face it, the woman got surgery to look "normal", and if she thinks "normal" means sitting at home 23 hours of the day to change stinkies and make baby food then she'd probably force herself to do exactly that. I'm not saying she'd like it or enjoy it. In fact she'd probably hate the thought of having children afterwards largely because she forced herself into such a negative role during the whole process.

And then she'd hate Fry - or whomever - for "forcing" the whole deal on her.

Who are you, Ralph Snart? I don't even think Ralph himself would believe that.

Yes, Leela did get surgery to look like the average Jane, but she did learn later that episode that it's best to be abnormal. Leela's always been a strong woman- what other woman knows martial arts like her? Leela treasures her independence, and I don't think she'll sacrifice everything for her child forever. At the start, she may slip into a phase, but I think she'll work something out. Also, Fry would never let Leela fall to the homemaker culture- she wouldn't be the woman he married, wouldn't she?

 
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Originally posted by Ralph Snart:
 No, that's a banable offense.  Kryten and I had a little spat last week that almost got me banned.

... You know what, I think I've lost interest in seeing Nibbler aggressively violate Leela on a latter.
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« Reply #31 on: 02-04-2008 12:00 »
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... You know what, I think I've lost interest in seeing Nibbler aggressively violate Leela on a latter.

::shrug::

Your loss.   wink

 
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Who are you, Ralph Snart? I don't even think Ralph himself would believe that.

To really make your heart skip a beat - I can find something positive to say about Leela here.  If she had a child, she would go overboard to give her child everything she didn't have when she was growing up in the orphanarium.  Leela may not have any use for the father of the child unless she feels that having a father is important to the child - unless the father is Zapp.

She may be a cold-hearted manipulator of Fry but she'd be fantastic mother.
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« Reply #32 on: 02-04-2008 12:08 »

 
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Originally posted by Ralph Snart:
  To really make your heart skip a beat - I can find something positive to say about Leela here.  If she had a child, she would go overboard to give her child everything she didn't have when she was growing up in the orphanarium.  Leela may not have any use for the father of the child unless she feels that having a father is important to the child - unless the father is Zapp.

She may be a cold-hearted manipulator of Fry but she'd be fantastic mother.

That was magnificent. Utterly magnificent.

I wanted to get to Leela as a mother to the child later- after we discuss the child itself because looks will matter in that case.

However, I disagree on your views with Leela and the child's father. She wanted both of her parents there during her childhood, so I'd think she'd want the father to be involved with the child's life, too.
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« Reply #33 on: 02-04-2008 14:00 »

 
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I'm going to say that half their kids would have 1 eye and the other half would have 2 eyes. I would help if we knew if teh mutant gene was resessive or dominant.
In all likelihood, it would show up at least once.  (Remember the one-eyed tadpole-baby at the end of 4x01?  Also, in some shots of the scene where they're heading to the water, you can tell there are other cyclops, too.)  I'm not sure if this means the gene is dominant, though. 

Re: adoption
I saw a picture of Fry and Leela adopting Sally.  It was hand-drawn and colored, but I can't remember who did it or I'd post a link.  Anyway, that'd be one option.
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« Reply #34 on: 02-04-2008 15:42 »
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Leela may want to be the best parent ever but her actual experience is institutional, having grown up entirely in an orphanarium. Fry, on the other hand, probably never had parenthood cross his mind but had a very normal upbringing. Meaning both parents at same home, a sibling, a house in a neighborhood, regular dinners, and so on. Between the two of them they might do a passable job of parenting.
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« Reply #35 on: 02-04-2008 17:19 »

I don't think I'd worry about Fry's spermies or Leela's ability to carry a child. Although she is a mutant, her base is human DNA. Mutants are just that- human mutants. So, really, base DNA is used in reproduction. So wouldn't Leela's mutantness be kinda a null obstacle?

Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.

@Archonix: Uggh. Uuuuuuughhh.
@Frida: Dull thread title, eh?
How about:
Fry and Leela's freaking cute and cuddly babies
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What do you think Fry and Leela's kids would look like? Horrific? Cute? You decide.
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Heehee... Fry and Leela baby thread.  ...heehee!

Yeah? Yeah?  smile
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« Reply #36 on: 02-04-2008 17:32 »

This thread could become a series of threads, like the Shipping series. For now, maybe you should start with a standard title like "Official Futurama Offspring Thread I". That way, like the shipper's threads, it can be about any Futurama character babies, not just Fry and Leela's.
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« Reply #37 on: 02-04-2008 17:34 »
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Originally posted by Futurama Llama:
Although she is a mutant, her base is human DNA. Mutants are just that- human mutants. So, really, base DNA is used in reproduction. So wouldn't Leela's mutantness be kinda a null obstacle?

If the mutations were genetic in origin, then they could still be a huge obstacle.

I don't think I understand what you're arguing.  Are you saying that the mutants have non-mutated DNA?  confused
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« Reply #38 on: 02-04-2008 17:36 »

Officer 1BDI, do you think the chance of mutations would decrease for Leela for the fact she's not exposed to the contaminated elements of the sewers as typical sewer mutants?
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« Reply #39 on: 02-04-2008 17:36 »

They're obviously lamarkian mutants.
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