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JackedOn

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« Reply #400 on: 01-13-2008 20:45 »

I'll give a boolean answer to that.
yes
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« Reply #401 on: 01-13-2008 20:48 »

Yes it is SP.
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« Reply #402 on: 01-13-2008 22:13 »

 
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Speaking of which how'd Mushu remove her suit without eating her?

Probly just ripped it off.
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« Reply #403 on: 01-13-2008 22:45 »

Yes but how?
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« Reply #404 on: 01-14-2008 00:14 »

It probably just got snagged on all of this:

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« Reply #405 on: 01-14-2008 02:22 »

Maybe Leela took it off on purpose, you know, to get Mushu's attention.

Can't argue with that. Whale biologist.
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« Reply #406 on: 01-14-2008 02:40 »
« Last Edit on: 01-14-2008 02:40 by JustNibblin´ »

Wow, 11 pages already on the shipper thread?  And how'd we get on whales, something I know a little about?

Just a little correction, SW, Mushu was a pygmy sperm whale, and thus a toothed whale (odontecete).   Thus wouldn't have baleen like the gray whale picture you showed.

EDIT:  I'll have to trace to see when the Trek slash ended.  Or should I have shut up about that?
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« Reply #407 on: 01-14-2008 09:49 »

Well damn. I'll remember to ask you before I say something about whales.

And to guide us gently back on-topic, where do people think the 'ship will go in the next movie? Does Leela start chasing Fry? Will we get to see things from Leela's perspective at all? Is there more to Fry's move to his "new girlfriend" than mind control? Will the crew of the 'ship just decide to go (nar)whaling instead (again)?
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« Reply #408 on: 01-14-2008 11:04 »

The cynic in me says that the show will return to status-quo with Fry chasing Leela. Fry might briefly chase other women, which Leela would notice, but otherwise not care about.
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« Reply #409 on: 01-14-2008 12:24 »

Every optimist has a cynic inside him who knows it's pointless to try and get out.
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« Reply #410 on: 01-14-2008 16:44 »

Wow, whales.

I have a feeling we still won't get to see things much from Leela's perspective; hopefully she won't be as much of a plot device in BWaBB as she was in BBS, and at least there's no more Lars, but I still don't think the writers intend to show us her thoughts much. However there may be some cause for her chasing Fry a bit, if he's got that new interest.

Going on a tangent, but speaking of cynics, I wonder if watching Futurama can make someone less of a bitter/cynical person. I know I used to reserve saying 'awww' mostly for cute animals or something, but a number of moments of the show spurred that reaction. Not too cynical on here given how inordinately fond I am of PEEL, but the point is that I think there is something about the show which has that effect.

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« Reply #411 on: 01-14-2008 17:18 »

 
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Originally posted by km73:

I have a feeling we still won't get to see things much from Leela's perspective; hopefully she won't be as much of a plot device in BWaBB as she was in BBS, and at least there's no more Lars, but I still don't think the writers intend to show us her thoughts much. However there may be some cause for her chasing Fry a bit, if he's got that new interest.


They may focus a bit more on the Bender/Fry friendship (at least they did in the trailer), but in the animatic trailer for the upcoming movie I did notice that Fry and his new gal were at Kif/Amy's ceremony, and Leela had her arms crossed and did *not* look happy.  Of course, Zap is present as well...
I'd also note that the trailers always deemphasize shippy aspects of upcoming Futurama--I mean the BBS trailer had no hint that half the movie would concern the Fry/Leela "emotional arc."


 
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Originally posted by km73:
Going on a tangent, but speaking of cynics, I wonder if watching Futurama can make someone less of a bitter/cynical person. I know I used to reserve saying 'awww' mostly for cute animals or something, but a number of moments of the show spurred that reaction. Not too cynical on here given how inordinately fond I am of PEEL, but the point is that I think there is something about the show which has that effect.

Didn't Fry once say, "She likes animals? I'm an animal!"? 

That said, I do think this show has a unique combination of twisted sarcasm and honest heart that can sneak up on unsuspecting viewers who are expecting another "Family Guy".  As for making less bitter/cynical...gee, I wonder what PEELER I'm thinking of that might fit the bill there  ;)
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« Reply #412 on: 01-14-2008 17:37 »

 
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Originally posted by JustNibblin':Didn't Fry once say, "She likes animals? I'm an animal!"?

When was that?

Why would any Futurama fan be expecting another Family Guy?
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« Reply #413 on: 01-14-2008 17:39 »

 
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As for making less bitter/cynical...gee, I wonder what PEELER I'm thinking of that might fit the bill there 

Did somebody call me?

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« Reply #414 on: 01-14-2008 18:11 »

One thing of note: the trailer isn't necessarily in broadcast order. Now I hope that Fry's new "girlfriend" doesn't make this revelation about having five other boyfriends until after the apparent wedding otherwise things might be a bit weird for Fry... though it would explain Leela's pissed-offness. She'd see it as another situation where she has to rescue Fry from self-inflicted misery (and possibly venereal diseases).
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« Reply #415 on: 01-14-2008 18:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221:
 When was that?

Why would any Futurama fan be expecting another Family Guy?

I think it may have been Futurma comic #11?

As to your second comment, I was thinking about a random viewer who stumbles on Futurama, not a committed Futurama fan.  I know that when I saw Futurama for the first time by accident in a hotel room, it caught me completely off guard.
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« Reply #416 on: 01-14-2008 18:43 »

 
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Originally posted by JustNibblin':
That said, I do think this show has a unique combination of twisted sarcasm and honest heart that can sneak up on unsuspecting viewers who are expecting another "Family Guy".

Yes, that's an apt way of putting it. As for why anyone would be expecting another "Family Guy", well, only maybe because adult swim used to lump them together all the time. I did actually discover Futurama through idly watching FG sometimes, but went right off FG once I had seen a couple of episodes of the mindblowing quality that is Futurama.

And one can see why the trailers would de-emphasize shippy, for broader appeal. However, although I had never watched the BBS trailer beforehand, I remember people complaining that it focused too much on the crude aspects; made it seem too vulgar.
They have to find a balance.
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« Reply #417 on: 01-14-2008 18:54 »

 
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Originally posted by JustNibblin':
 I think it may have been Futurma comic #11?

Well that explains why I never saw/heard that before.

I think the reason they may have focused more on the vulgarness was to get people who like lobrau (I hate puns yet that is one) humor to want to see it. But they really need to find a balance between shippy and crude and all else that make s Futurama Futurama to get more hard core fans. If that made sense then that's great.
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« Reply #418 on: 01-14-2008 19:26 »

Re: that quote, from Futurama Comics #11-

Zoidberg: You mean, Leela's innermost desire is to get naked with animals?
Fry: I'm an animal.

 :D
km73

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« Reply #419 on: 01-14-2008 21:16 »

 
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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221:
...lobrau (I hate puns yet that is one) humor...

And a very good one.
(How can you hate puns?)

Oh, also, another reason I think there may be some scope for Leela chasing Fry in the next film is not only because of his new so-called "girlfriend", but because that's one area the writers haven't really explored yet. I still think they would couch it in terms more of her worrying about him for "not being himself", but maybe it could lead to her having some kind of revelation or epiphany.

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« Reply #420 on: 01-14-2008 22:26 »

Ooh, what if Leela gets rejected by Fry during the next movie (Fry under mind control, most likely), they both struggle with unrequited love for each other in the third movie (Leela won't forgive Fry for how he acted under the mind control, most likely), and then they ambiguously get together in the fourth? I think that would work well.
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« Reply #421 on: 01-14-2008 22:38 »

Sounds okay to me, but - Leela won't forgive him for however he might act under mind control? Considering he's always able to forgive her for her exploits, such as sometimes flaunting other guys in his face, particularly Chaz-the-mayor's-aide and Adlai, then that would seem harsh..(a bit reminiscent of JN's version of her, in fact...)
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« Reply #422 on: 01-14-2008 23:23 »

I tend to think that after the Fry/Leela intense BBS the next movie probably won't focus on them as much. I think it will be more Fry/Bender and Amy/Kif. Not to say that there won't be any F/L stuff in it I just think it'll be alot less. As far as Fry's new girlfriend goes I think it's the mind control thing. He hasn't shown intrest in any other woman since the Liubot and he's put in way to much effort to go after somebody else.
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« Reply #423 on: 01-15-2008 03:17 »

Still, it might just be possible that Fry would reject Leela's advances without being under mind control. Maybe he'd try a little reverse psychology on her, or he got infected with a different kind of intestinal worm that brings out the mean streak in him. *shrug*
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« Reply #424 on: 01-15-2008 07:38 »

I like the idea of their being a parallel dimension in which Fry and Leela get together, in a similair vain to red dwarfs lister and Kochanski ship.
This also helps me deal with my ambivalence about the whole Fry / Leela shippy concept. ( in that I like the idea, but fear it could ultimately spell the death knell for Futurama on the par with what we know and love)
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« Reply #425 on: 01-15-2008 19:52 »

The thing is, Fry doesn't have a mean bone in his body.  He's always happy-go-lucky, even after being robbed by Bender, insulted by all his coworkers and treated like garbage by Leela.

Leela is the one who is perpeptually angry and sees conspiracies regarding her.

For all his faults, I'd rather be friends with him than her.

km73

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« Reply #426 on: 01-15-2008 20:02 »

Well, but they both have their useful qualities. It's not so much that Leela is perpetually angry, she just has... issues.
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« Reply #427 on: 01-15-2008 20:43 »

Issues is one way to describe what she has. She's just a bitch. She doesn't want to accept that fry loves her for who she is just because he's not rich, or uber-mature, or the sharpest tool in the shed. I don't get why she just wont accept it besides the fact that the writers wont let her.

I don't like when guys are immature all the time but they are going to be immature and stuff no matter what you need learn to accept it nad move on. Leela's dream guy is unrealistic. She had Lars but who knows whats going to happen between Fry and Leela know that Leela has fallen for a 12 year older Fry. Will she expect more from him.

Will she accept that Fry can be like that? Fry is well on his way to being more mature like Lars. Infact I believe that Fry got there fast than Lars did because it took Lars 12 years to realize that he need to do what made her happy and not him. It took Fry only a few weeks if that.

If that was going anywhere I have no clue. My brain has shorted because I have a huge presentation on Thurs that if I fail I have to make up the class in summer school to graduate. fucking Participation in Gov't class.
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« Reply #428 on: 01-15-2008 21:09 »

Thus much and more, and yet thou lov'st me not,
And never wilt, Love dwells not in our will
Nor can I blame thee, though it be my lot
To strongly, wrongly, vainly, love thee still.
-- Byron
km73

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« Reply #429 on: 01-15-2008 21:38 »

Oh, nice.
Byron is good, but personally I prefer Shelley.  :)

 
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I don't get why she just wont accept it besides the fact that the writers wont let her.

Well, that's a pretty good raisin right there!

Good luck with your presentation.  :)
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« Reply #430 on: 01-15-2008 22:18 »

That's pretty much the[i/] reason right there. I mean in a deleted scene from "Devil's Hands" she seemed pretty happy with the idea of going out with Fry. Plus the regular scene where she says how wrong she's been to reject him. Of all the many and convoluted reasons that there are the main on is that she is at the mercy of the writers. Writers who don't see that getting Fry and Leela together wouldn't be the end of the world (show) but could lead to tons of new hilarious antics.
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« Reply #431 on: 01-15-2008 22:24 »

True. Getting them together could open up whole new opportunities for the show.

Thanks km.
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« Reply #432 on: 01-15-2008 22:42 »

 
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True. Getting them together could open up whole new opportunities for the show.

Thanks km.

It was my idea.  :(
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« Reply #433 on: 01-15-2008 22:52 »

I know it was your idea Frisco and it was a good one. I was thanking km for wiching me luck on my presenation. I know I'm gonna puke on the day of it too.
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« Reply #434 on: 01-16-2008 03:10 »

He may not have a mean bone, but he sure could get more worms!  :D

It's funny, but Leela and Lars are almost on the wrong side of the "half-your-age-plus-seven" minimum age rule that seems quite popular these days, assuming Leela is 28-30.
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« Reply #435 on: 01-16-2008 06:02 »

 
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Leela and Lars are almost on the wrong side of the ... minimum age rule that seems quite popular these days

Still, could be worse:

Like this, for example... thank you Archonix..
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« Reply #436 on: 01-16-2008 06:03 »

Why do I create these monsters...
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« Reply #437 on: 01-16-2008 06:13 »

Because you can.
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« Reply #438 on: 01-16-2008 06:51 »
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Please for the love of who ever don't make any more stuff like that! Why did I click that link?
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« Reply #439 on: 01-16-2008 07:13 »
« Last Edit on: 01-16-2008 07:13 »

I'm not, that was an old one that people keep bringing back to torture me with.

I suppose I could delete it from my server... then again where's the fun in that?   :D

ETA: You know, it just struck me that part of this jerkassiness some of you are attributing to Leela might actually be Bender's fault. Remember the ending of I Second That Emotion;)
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