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Author Topic: ‘The Shipping News’, the Colditzer_1 Prize-winning thread by jlE. Xannie Archoulx  (Read 28820 times)
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« Reply #120 on: 12-20-2007 13:04 »
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I'm seeing more of a Zoidberg/Farnsworth/Amy triangle there...

Come to think of it, with Leela blindfolded, that would make a excellent submission to the grab caption thread.

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« Reply #121 on: 12-20-2007 13:15 »


Amy gazed across at Leela in a oyster induced trace, thinking how else the blindfold Leela was wearing could be used. Farnsworth watched Amy, covering his senile smile with his napkin as a thousand different questions to ask the what if machine surfaced in his cradle snatching mind. Zoidberg noticed the Proffessor's gaze and narrowed his eyes dangerously, not liking the way the old man was looking at 'his' Amy. Leela was simply wondering why it had gone so quiet.


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« Reply #122 on: 12-20-2007 13:25 »

That is perfect. This does need to be posted in the grab caption thread.
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« Reply #123 on: 12-20-2007 15:52 »
« Last Edit on: 12-20-2007 15:52 »

I second that motion now it just needs to be carried...

Also I agree with Xanny about the Farnsworth/Amy/Zoidberg triangle.
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« Reply #124 on: 12-20-2007 22:33 »

Now all we need is somebody here to win the framegrab thread and put it up. However the grab thread has been idle for like two days so it could be awhile.
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« Reply #125 on: 12-21-2007 06:54 »

Ok. Some one here who can write something that can win the frame grab thread. Win and use this grab!
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« Reply #126 on: 12-21-2007 07:10 »

Done, but I still have to consider other captions for the win too. Gotta play fair.
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« Reply #127 on: 12-21-2007 23:37 »

I just saw the Leela/Farnsworth picture. It failed to have an effect on me.

I've seen worse.
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« Reply #128 on: 12-22-2007 01:20 »

 
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I've seen worse.
Dare I ask what?
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« Reply #129 on: 12-22-2007 10:28 »

BH I wouldn't. Please don't let it be too late.

Zim- Why is there bacon in the soap?!?!

Gir- I made it myself!
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« Reply #130 on: 12-22-2007 10:36 »

 
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I've seen worse.
Dare I ask what?

Rule 34 assures that it's worse than we could possibly imagine.
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« Reply #131 on: 12-22-2007 15:49 »
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Please for the love of Futurama DO NOT TELL US!!!!
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« Reply #132 on: 12-22-2007 19:36 »

Various comments on earlier postings in this thread:

Firstly I’m surprised in many ways that the release of BBS didn’t spurn a greater burst of activity on this thread, though the impression I’m getting (having not yet seen BBS) is that it may have helped sound the death knell for the ubiquitous Fry / Leela Ship!??

 
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Originally posted by Ralph Snart:When she lays dying in a hospital bed, who is by her side? Adlai? Zapp? Chaz? Alkazar? No. The only person in the world who gives two shits about her. Fry. What did his heroic gestuer get him? A new spleen and nothing else. And before anybody says anything, Leela has never put her life at risk for anybody - much less Fry. I can see the self-centered witch standing by as Fry gets killed, only to realize that he was the only real friend she had in the world.
No, Leela has now become the most selfish, self-centered, cruel, manipulating character ever to evolve in the Groening universe.

I agree to some extent, and looking back over the episodes, there is a lot to justify this position even from the stand point of having not seen BBS.
What does come to mind, and here is where I’m not entirely in the Anti-Leela cult ! is the thought that had Fry arrived a few years later, and here I’m also wondering if Fry himself had perhaps been a bit older at the time when he’d been Frozen, then things may have panned out a different way.
 
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Originally posted by Archonix:The way I see it; Leela has emotional problems that prevents her from forming a deep bond with Fry for any long period of time, on top of which she has a lingering view of him as a stupid kid. It's an image that'll be hard for Fry to shake off simply because first impressions count for so much. She has shown emotional attachment to him, though, but she has a problem acknowledging that because she needs security. She gravitates toward "strong" men, that much is obvious. If she can get over that need for security she'll come out of her shell toward Fry.
The notion that Leela could still shake off these emotional problems, given time is what inspires in me the notion that, further down the road things could still work out between Fry and Leela.
I’ am wondering hence if there’s perhaps scope for a scenario in which Fry for whatever reason ended up meeting Leela in the future say 10 years ahead of where Futurama is set presently and from there for things to work out.
 
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I don't disagree, I just don't think it's fair to label her as so venal. She's damaged and needs sympathy.
And a good kick in the pants.
But mostly sympathy.
…..And time and space away from Fry, if she is ever to really love him. If Fry is the one who ‘Fixes’ her, I doubt very much whether he would end up being the one she falls in love with even though she might then be capable of falling in love.
I say this both from professional and personal experience.
 
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Baloney. We could all use events in our lives as excuses for being arseholes. Hell, I've had a complete bastard of a life up to this point, but I'm not even going to go into it because no event and no person is ever responsible for who you are except you yourself.
I think people who say "I am the way I am because this thing happened to me" are the most useless pissweak lumps of wasted organic matter ever to sully this sacred Earth.
You are what you make of yourself.
Up to a point, but we all have inherent (genetically determined) strengths and vulnerabilities, from which we can’t escape, the key is in making the best of what we have and in having the insight and motivation to recognize our strengths and utilise them.
The past does shape who we are, to deny that is...well denial!
My wife’s brother took coldangel’s attitude for years ( they had an horrific upbringing ) and spent a good part of his life indoors, afraid, angry, being an internet nerd and hating the world, afraid to get close to anyone. He met a nice girl a few years ago and is now working and having a life and he can see now how much all that shit held him back.
Back to Leela, she has some shit to shoot before she is ready for Fry.
The question remains though is it worthwhile Fry waiting until then?
Personally I’m keen on the suggestions that Fry looks further a field, But not necessarily for a serious relationship maybe having some fun out and about with bender ‘scoring some cheap floosies!’


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« Reply #133 on: 12-22-2007 20:15 »

 
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inherent (genetically determined) strengths and vulnerabilities, from which we can’t escape

That's loser talk! The ability to transcend the sum of what we are and be something greater is what sets us apart from hillbilly folk.
Genetics my arse - that's just another convenient excuse for weakness.

 
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coldangel’s attitude

I don't have an attitude!!  up yours
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« Reply #134 on: 12-22-2007 20:29 »

It's not weakness if you don't know any better. perhaps nobody has ever told her she acts like an ass toward people.
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« Reply #135 on: 12-22-2007 21:37 »

I'd probably like the romantic part of BBS better if the story had happened earlier.  It's just that with the ending of TDHAIPT, Leela running off with some guy and almost marrying him, while completely ignoring Fry, doesn't make much sense after all they've been through.  I was okay with the Leela/Lars scenes because I knew it was Fry, but I also didn't like it because Leela didn't know.

And now for a random shippy picture:

by IntroducingEmy on Deviantart
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« Reply #136 on: 12-22-2007 22:20 »

Aww that picture is cute.  smile
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« Reply #137 on: 12-23-2007 00:35 »

 
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Originally posted by Archonix:
It's not weakness if you don't know any better.

Everything is weakness. Even strength.
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« Reply #138 on: 12-23-2007 23:53 »

 
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
 Everything is weakness.

Your reasoning is weak.  big grin

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« Reply #139 on: 12-23-2007 23:57 »

 
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What does come to mind, and here is where I’m not entirely in the Anti-Leela cult ! is the thought that had Fry arrived a few years later, and here I’m also wondering if Fry himself had perhaps been a bit older at the time when he’d been Frozen, then things may have panned out a different way.
 
I’ am wondering hence if there’s perhaps scope for a scenario in which Fry for whatever reason ended up meeting Leela in the future say 10 years ahead of where Futurama is set presently and from there for things to work out.

Dude, are you sure you haven't seen BBS?...
That's more or less what happens... sort of...

Wooo, Starship Captain, whoopie.
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« Reply #140 on: 12-23-2007 23:59 »

Congratulations on your new rank.

Say, may I ask where you got your username from?
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« Reply #141 on: 12-24-2007 21:04 »

 
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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221:
I second that motion now it just needs to be carried...

Also I agree with Xanny about the Farnsworth/Amy/Zoidberg triangle.

I'm goona third that... Unless someone's beaten me to it. Yes, I've come back to the Shippy Thread!!!  cry  It's such a happy day.
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« Reply #142 on: 12-25-2007 16:47 »

Have you guys ever wondered how Zoidberg keeps living, even through all of the pain he is put through every day?

There's always someone to wipe away his tears.


"He was the only one of you that never struck me!"
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« Reply #143 on: 12-25-2007 16:57 »

 
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
 I don't have an attitude!!   up yours

You are very amusing, don't even know if you mean to be, nonetheless a natural satirist!

I agree that there is a danger in limiting ourselves by our own 'erroneous' dysfunctional beliefs, and blaming this on 'genetics', that's not what I was getting at but I understand how people can take it that way.
I do believe though that certain people are inherently more vulnerable, and therefore stand a higher chance of being 'damaged' by the experiences they are subject too in the external environment.
You couldn't deny the validity of this argument in the physical sense. For example say any two people both 40 a day smokers, they're not both guaranteed to get cancer, in fact there are others who don't smoke forty a day and dp get cancer. Unescapable genetic influences.
We do not fully understand the manifestations of genetics on the development of the mind, but undoubtedly there are parallels with the aforementioned anology about cancer. Some survived auswitz without serious mental illness / personality disorders resulting, yet others have parents who argued a lot and they end up totally dysfunctional.
It isn't weakness to be affected by your past, particularly if you know of know other way to deal with things. What I think Coldy is getting at and with which I agree, is people who do have insight and ability, but consciiusly and deliberately use the past as an excuse for bad behaviour. The prisons are full of such people, I would suggest.
The problem is telling the difference between those who can and can't help it and I guess people only really know that answer within themselves. ( Until Farnsworth devises a super CT scanner than can reveal ones innermost thoughts!)
So back on topic, will we ever know the truth about Leela. Of course the problem, and a realm we usually try to avoid straying into is that ultimately Leelas behaviour is in the hands of the writers, therefore to suppose we can judge and predict her actions as a real person, may well be utter folly.

Perhaps we need to get Matt Groening on the couch!
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« Reply #144 on: 12-25-2007 18:21 »

 
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Originally posted by gaschief:
 You are very amusing, don't even know if you mean to be,

I did mean to be.

 
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cancer analogy

Operating at the cellular level, most of the kinds of cancer caused by environmental factors really have a lot more to do with random chance than many would lead you to believe.
A stray carcinogen is like the one loaded chamber in a revolver. It's Russian Roulette, except your cells are like billions of different heads that the gun barrel might point at.
The hereditary-types of cancer are different though. But we will soon be able to eliminate genetic predisposition toward disease through use of gene therapy, which can be seen in itself as an analogy for my own philosophies regarding the mind - human beings are masters of reshaping things to suit our needs and expectations. We've changed the environment to suit ourselves; cybernetically enhanced our own bodies (and, yes, minds) with a plethora of labour-saving devices and technologies to enhance our efficiency and knowledge, etc. We can manipulate our physical structure down to the genetic level... So with all that mastery of matter and energy, the ability to essentially mould reality at whim, to suggest that a human being might lack the capacity to re-order the working of his or her own mind is, I think, selling ourselves short... or at worst taking the easy route. Compared to the other creatures on this world, we might as well start calling ourselves Gods.
 
 
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We do not fully understand the manifestations of genetics on the development of the mind,

I do.
For I am - COLDANGEL.

 
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deliberately use the past as an excuse for bad behaviour...
The problem is telling the difference between those who can and can't help it


As I've been known to be rather uncharitable in the field of emotional gunk, I probably risk causing offence by suggesting that the difference you speak of is a divide between liars and pussies.

...sorry.... I'm so sorry. I can't help it...
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« Reply #145 on: 12-25-2007 19:06 »

 
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And that's less scary than my pictures how?
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« Reply #146 on: 12-25-2007 19:12 »
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
     
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deliberately use the past as an excuse for bad behaviour...
The problem is telling the difference between those who can and can't help it


As I've been known to be rather uncharitable in the field of emotional gunk, I probably risk causing offence by suggesting that the difference you speak of is a divide between liars and pussies.

...sorry.... I'm so sorry. I can't help it...
      wink

Actually I thought that was a very amusing choice of nomenclature for this particular theme. Iam quite drunk though as I read this, and perhaps in a more sober, and politically correct mindset would see this choice of language as cruel but yeh it’s rather funny right now!

Actually I very much agree with the things you say in your last post, more in fact than many people would be comfortable with, I suspect. Any mention of Genetic engineering in the house and the wife gets all uneasy, it’s akin to talking about evolution in a creationist  heartland of the deep south! I wasn’t really getting that that’s were you were coming from when you made your original remarks about ‘genetic factors we cant do anything about’.
By and large I think people still don’t feel very comfortable in their own skins thinking about the notion of us tinkering with our own DNA. But on the same token Gallileo went to the tower for suggesting the earth wasn’t the centre of the universe, which of course is now a widely accepted fact, so much so that many would say it’s just, ‘common sense.’

Yes at the moment we are still at the very beginning of such things, but I very much agree it’s the way to go, that being said there’s always this danger, like the bomb that it falls into the hands of ignorant human beings and things get out of hand. There’s no question that there are aspects of the human condition that could do with improvements, at the same time there are those whose vision of such improvements may not ultimately be in the best interests of human betterment. That’s were the technology gets dangerous. I very much doubt that when John Logie Baird or Blumlein envisioned the concept of Television that they had in mind broadcasting Shitty reality TV shows or shit pop singer ‘phone in competitions, for the ‘betterment of humanity’ but ergo, that’s what we’re landed with for the better part!

For the time being at least, I think we should cut the pussies a little slack, until technology evolves to a level were their failings can definitely be put right!

Besides I’ll be out of a job when that time comes! ;-)

Apologies to the shippers and those pedantic enough to be upset by offtopic coversation, but there really isn't much happening in here just now!
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« Reply #147 on: 12-25-2007 19:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Archonix:
 And that's less scary than my pictures how?

They're not naked.
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« Reply #148 on: 12-25-2007 20:08 »

I really feel for Zoidberg sometimes, particularly the way Hermes belittles him! I never really thought about it before but I guess Fry does treat him quite kindly. I don't know if that's deliberate, I can't really imagine fry having gay feelings for zoidberg, and to be honest i just dont thing they could pull off Futurama with a gay central character, whether it's appealing or not to think he may have fondness for Zoidberg.
I'd really like to see zoidberg getting one over on Hermes though, Hermes to me is a bit of a prick (sorry for the language), but yeh I do think he's a bit of a sad man and really has NO right to belittle zoidberg. Though Hermes did redeem himself a little in the episode about the titanic space ship.
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« Reply #149 on: 12-25-2007 23:37 »

After seeing those pictures I almost miss the Star Trek stuff......almost.
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« Reply #150 on: 12-26-2007 00:05 »

Merry Xmas

Together, we're lonely together.
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« Reply #151 on: 12-26-2007 08:19 »

The return of slash pics.

And actually on topic for once!


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« Reply #152 on: 12-26-2007 08:31 »
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yes... Yes!  - OH GOD YES!!


In Jurassic Bark, after Fry told Leela and Amy to take their erotic wrestling elsewhere, this is what he ended up missing out on.

Edit: I have an X-Files poster on my wall that says 'I Want to Believe'. And I truly do want to believe that Leela and Amy have frequent casual sex with each other.
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« Reply #153 on: 12-26-2007 09:04 »

 
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yes... Yes!  - OH GOD YES!!

I'm glad I made your day.  I'm sure somebody will get upset.  do you know how difficult it was to find a Leela/Amy slash pic that I could place on PEEL (due to PEEL's family-friendly rules)

 
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In Jurassic Bark, after Fry told Leela and Amy to take their erotic wrestling elsewhere, this is what he ended up missing out on.

As strange as it sounds, if I was in Fry's position and I had the chance of reviving one of my long-lost pets, I'd rather miss out on the erotic wrestling myself.

Ralph 'really pathetic pet lover' Snart

Okay you cunts, let's see what you can do now.
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« Reply #154 on: 12-26-2007 13:58 »

Amy looks like she really doesn't want to be there.
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« Reply #155 on: 12-26-2007 14:08 »

I was just thinking that too, actually. Possibly because Leela looks like she's just about to throttle her...
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« Reply #156 on: 12-26-2007 15:33 »

If you wanted slash why did no-one remember Coldy's piccy:


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« Reply #157 on: 12-26-2007 16:27 »

Yeah, I forgot Coldy's pic.

Here's another Leela/Amy:



Okay you cunts, let's see what you can do now.
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« Reply #158 on: 12-26-2007 16:39 »

Those work.  big grin
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« Reply #159 on: 12-26-2007 17:53 »

That last one looks really good, almost like a framegrab.
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