The Evil Conspiracy Against Pedro Thread

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I don't. I just like grossing out people.


TOTPD!


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[Reply #561 on:]

Since Deca didn't do this...



Guys are lucky the original one that I was going to do wouldn't work.

Back to the topic at hand. i'm too lazy to start anything new so you guys knock your selves out.

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All you folk are talking about BBS, but I can't!   
Jeez... stupid region coding... need one of those multi-region doohickeys...

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While you're at it, get me one.

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And I gotta avoid threads like these until I get the DVD this Tuesday.

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Deca, don't forget that excellent Hermes/Zoidberg slashfic that was floating around here... 

Coldy, you can reflash most DVD-ROM drives to be region-free. With DVD players, you just have to google the player model number, it's usually a code you enter with the remote on a hidden menu.

Anyway, I tend to agree with SP, Leela's just written that way, no sense in hating her for it. "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way". I felt the way she jumped ship in BBS was a bit of a stretch, but I still think all she wants is for Fry to not be so childish. That's exactly what she found in Lars. Maybe she'll now see that there's in fact hope for Fry after all, which will result in more material for shippy stuff in the next movie.

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After all, she did say that Lars was the person she wanted to spend the rest of her life with... the way I see it, this is her wake-up call to how Fry really is underneath.

If she misses this one, well, my reactions may resemble Ralph's 

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And like I tried to say and failed, it should also be a wake-up call for Fry to get himself a bit more mature again. He's been moving that way but he went backwards in the film and acted like a complete brat.

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Originally posted by Archonix:

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And like I tried to say and failed, it should also be a wake-up call for Fry to get himself a bit more mature again. He's been moving that way but he went backwards in the film and acted like a complete brat.

Whoa, whoa, what?

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I was gonna say, I agree with Ralph's remarks about the series' spoiled continuity and the lack of orchestra. I was a bit more lenient with Leela (I don't know why), hoping that she was merely being underwritten (and also finding both Ralph and Archonix's arguments on the previous page to be quite convincing.)

I would also like to say that their treatment of Devil's Hands was not entirely unexpected. The delightfulness of that ep was in it's ambiguity. Leela could take it one way... Or she could take it the other. They chose for her to take it one way.

And I think it's obvious that the characters have changed since the series. It's been two years in-universe. All the characters were slightly different. You'll notice Bender's promotion and Amy's grown hair (humourously returned to normal within thirty seconds of the beginning.) They were basically restarting the series from scratch, which although not something I condone nor something I think they did very well, is nevertheless turning out to be something they apparently did.

However, I cannot see Fry has having gone backwards in this film. Stagnated, maybe, depending on whether you see those two past years has a joke or not. I did note, however, that Fry seems to be picking up a few moves from Leela, and Leela seems to be putting a few moves on him...

Although, all and all, they do risk making the 'Ship go the way of Mulder and Scully if they keep up these types of story much longer...

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You may have a point. I just don't like the incredibly childish way he acted during the ceremonies. He was mature enough to try and make Leela happy toward the end so my complaint probably doesn't hold that much weight.

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Heck, I would have tried that had it been my last resort! 

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Although I have to wonder... There are three films left. Could these bits we dislike actually have a larger place?

Or is it gonna stay like this?

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You know, there's a way to work all that in to continuity without retconning anything! We just assume that we saw Seymore standing around and waiting all the times Fry was out making deliveries and it's all good!

I would have come up with a better plan myself. Something involving Zoidberg and an exploding Robert Louis Stevensonbot...

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Coldy, you can reflash most DVD-ROM drives to be region-free. With DVD players, you just have to google the player model number, it's usually a code you enter with the remote on a hidden menu.

 

Why didn't you track me down and tell me this six years ago when we didn't know each other?!
I must look into this...

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Yeah, and most set-top DVD players can be made to do the same thing too. Secret menus and stuff.

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I looked into it but couldn't make heads or tails of any of that techno mumbo-jumbo, so I give up.

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That sucks coldy. I could probably figure it out but, I'm about 6,000 miles away. Oh by the way coldy  just got the stuff thank you for sending it.

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Originally posted by Xanfor:

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I would also like to say that their treatment of Devil's Hands was not entirely unexpected. The delightfulness of that ep was in it's ambiguity. Leela could take it one way... Or she could take it the other. They chose for her to take it one way.

I agree with the interpretability of the Devil's Hands ending, which is what made it one of the better endings of the series. I can attest to its effectiveness as an ending, since when watching it the first time I was left very much wanting more and was pretty disappointed when the credits came up.

 

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They were basically restarting the series from scratch, which although not something I condone nor something I think they did very well, is nevertheless turning out to be something they apparently did.

Yeah, that was what I was trying to say in the review thread. But I think there are still some questions as to whether that is what happened though,

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since the time sphere was supposed to correct paradoxes.

I definitely need to see the movie again though.

I loved the bit with Amy's hair at the beginning. Touches such as those were what the movie could have used more of.

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I looked into it but couldn't make heads or tails of any of that techno mumbo-jumbo, so I give up.

Post your problem here, there is a small army of nerds here to help you out 

 

I loved the bit with Amy's hair at the beginning. Touches such as those were what the movie could have used more of.

i.e., actually presenting and resolving the paradoxes rather than rely on a plot device to "resolve" them

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The one such paradox they perhaps did well was Seymour, although it still leaves open the question of why he went looking for Fry when he saw him come back to the pizza place at 1:00 AM

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<<Post your problem here, there is a small army of nerds here to help you out>>

Nah, I don't wanna ask those off-topic cunts for anything.


I'll just wait for it to become available over here, and cry myself to sleep every night in the meantime.

Coldangel signing off.

[Reply #578 on:]

Boy you really get riled up by them, don't you? Well, I was trying to prevent the thread here from wandering too far off topic. I suppose you could just post a model number perhaps.

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Originally posted by km73:

I loved the bit with Amy's hair at the beginning. Touches such as those were what the movie could have used more of.

Me too. And you know what? I bet it took her two years to grow it that long.

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Poor Amy... perhaps Fry should comfort her some.

*runs away giggling*

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*ducks under the table to avoid shipper bullets... and more spoilers*

Tomorrow, you will be mine.... yesss... you will be mine, preciousssss...

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Tomorrow this thread will probably be exploding with tons of shippy discussion. Better start finding lots of Trek slash picture for all the new pages.

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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221:

Tomorrow this thread will probably be exploding with tons of shippy discussion. Better start finding lots of Trek slash picture for all the new pages.

Like this?   

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Oh for fuck sake...

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Little extreme but way to keep tradition from page 5 alive Ralph.

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It's even worse than the one I had of them in the bath!

[Reply #588 on:]

Oh lord.

Nobody could possibly top that.

[Reply #589 on:]

Never say never. Somewhere out there is a picture of Spock and Kirk having nasty buttsex, and sooner or later it'll make its very brief appearance here. And then it'll be gone again.

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I will kill any who post such a pic.


Hey, from the spoilers I've accidentally glanced at, I've been able to ascertain the bloke Leela is getting cosy with in the movie is actually a future incarnation of Fry himself, right?
So... this isn't really anti-shippy at all... right?

Yes... I need to see the movie.

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Spoilered because I don't know what about BBS should be spoilered or not in here.

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In regards to talk I've seen from people (Mr. Snart), yes Lars is a different person than Fry, but he is also largely the same as Fry. Fry learned the same lesson in a few weeks that Lars learned after twelve years, so while Lars had more life experience, I think that was his main difference, and the one focused on by the movie. Also, I think that this is an important development for Fry, so now maybe his romantic aims won't be "I'm going to make Leela love me" but something more sensitive to what Leela wants.

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That's the point I've tried to make in posts before. Lars is Fry with maturity. He's still Fry though, and there's moments when this becomes very obvious. He's still impulsive;this manifests in a negative way during the aborted wedding and in positive ways elsewhere - he's still playful; the chopstick drink at Elzar's for example. What's different is that he has, as sine wave says, "life experience". He's learned lessons about how to allow for the fact that people have their own feelings and interests outside of him. Up to now he's seen his relationship with Leela through the prism of "getting her to understand him", but Lars had learned - and presuambly Fry has learned - that he also needs to understand her. The second time Fry learned this lesson and tried to understand Leela's needs, when he tried to patch things up between Leela and Lars, he actually prompted Leela to understand him.

And, running the risk of sounding like a Saturday Morning Special, that's life in a nutshell. You can go through it wishing everyone understood you, or you can try to learn about them, because in learning about them you'll be able to teach them about yourself.

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Somewhere out there is a picture of Spock and Kirk having nasty buttsex

It exists.  I can't bring myself to place that on this page, even for the shock value. Plus the fact that -mArc- would probably fly from Germany to personally assault me with the banstick.

And he may still do that.  I've placed another acidic review on the appropriate thread.  I thought I may like the movie better if I watched it again.  Despite the fact that my wife loves the movie, I just can't force myself to say the words "It was good", because it wasn't.

Venus will be hiring hitmen to take me out, Shiny will be chanting mantras to ensure that I have a long and painful death and Xanfor will call me at home and bore me to death with graduate level Quantum Mechanics and SuperString theories.

This movie has totally destroyed any 'shipper' parts that I once had.  The series had the two slowly becoming closer to each other.  That was totally destroyed in this movie (see my review).

Ralph 'pariah' Snart

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That could just be the concussion talking.

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It might be worth looking at it as a sort of re-run of their relationship to get newbies up to speed.

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Now I understand about what's "controversial" in the movie.

Also, it seems to be inspiring polar-opposite reactions in people.

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But something I don't think anyone has brought up is that Lars is still annoying. He may technically be Fry, but I still didn't particularly like him. Sure, he may not have been as much of a jerk or a bastard as Leela's other interests, but personally I still didn't find him likeable or appealing as a character. And screw all this stuff about Fry and maturity. He never wanted to change her, why should she always be trying to change him? Fry is Fry and I don't want him "mature" or "grown-up"; they shouldn't sacrifice the integrity of the character. Besides, he was already sensitive to Leela when it counted.

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Do you see what they've done though. They got her together with Fry without actually getting her together with Fry.

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Men marry women hoping they'll never change.
Women marry men hoping to change them.

Such is the nature of things.  You don't have to like it, it just is.

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Originally posted by Ralph Snart:

This movie has totally destroyed any 'shipper' parts that I once had.  The series had the two slowly becoming closer to each other.  That was totally destroyed in this movie (see my review).

I am entirely shippy-neutral at this time.

Sure, that seems to be an impossible state at any time for me, but this movie is also carbon-neutral, which is an impossible state at all.

But after examining it once more, I've come to see that, overall, Fry seems to have given up on Leela entirely. The whole whale story reflects this.

By his own admission, he's given up. Now, whether this is merely to give the appearance of an attempted reboot of the 'Ship, or actually is an attempted reboot of the 'Ship, or whether Fry really has given up on Leela and it's gonna stay that way until she realizes what a [Ralph Snart insert appropriate word here] she's been, I don't know.

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What is interesting, and pretty much the only thing that's giving me optimism that Leela will eventually come around to... A much more decent condition of being, is that yesterday I watched the movie with some friends who had never seen Futurama before. I had to explain a few things to them, of course. One of these friends was a seven year old girl. Afterwards, she was a little confused about the ending, and who Lars really was. I explained about the time paradoxes, and slowly her face lit up as she understood.

"So Lars is the other Fry?"

"Yep!"

"Oh... Does Leela know Lars is Fry?"

"She does now."

(Fantastic smile breaks out over her adorable face)

"Then Leela loves Fry now!"

 

Venus will be hiring hitmen to take me out, Shiny will be chanting mantras to ensure that I have a long and painful death and Xanfor will call me at home and bore me to death with graduate level Quantum Mechanics and SuperString theories.

Why Ralph, I had no idea you were interested!

Here, allow me to introduce you to something called the Heretic string. I mean, the Heterotic string... (  )

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Edit: @ sarcastinator:

Those are stereotypes.

One of the things I always liked about Futurama was that it didn't deal as much in stereotypes, as other things do.