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km73

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« Reply #520 on: 11-22-2007 13:30 »

I'm gonna try too...I never watch anything on youtube...but I feel so left out, i can't take it anymore...of course I'm definitely going to buy it also.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #521 on: 11-22-2007 13:37 »

Part 1 was found by FOX so you'll miss 10 minutes. I can guess as to what happened in thodse 10 min so I don't care. Plus as soon as I get the DVD I'll see what happened anyway. It's really good. Poor Fry.
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« Reply #522 on: 11-22-2007 18:18 »

Dudes... illegality.
I hope you'll all buy the DVD as well.
km73

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« Reply #523 on: 11-22-2007 18:49 »

Hell yes, I'm absolutely buying it, as I said above...
Almost through with the movie now, enjoying it immensely..best Thanksgiving i've had in a long time.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #524 on: 11-22-2007 21:43 »

Coldy how could I not buy it? That's why I got a job so that I had the mony to buy it.
km73

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« Reply #525 on: 11-22-2007 21:50 »

Bf did you see the end??
I didn't, I guess they took it off.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #526 on: 11-22-2007 23:00 »
« Last Edit on: 11-22-2007 23:00 »

 
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Originally posted by km73:
Bf did you see the end??
I didn't, I guess they took it off.

Nope. I would have if  hadn't had to go to my sisters friend's house for Thanksgiving "dinner" at 2:00 in the afternoon. Why we had dinner at 2:00 in the afternoon is beyond me that's lunch time. FOX found it before I saw it now I have to wait. I think that I can handle 5 days.
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« Reply #527 on: 11-22-2007 23:28 »

Re: 'thanksgiving'
What are you giving thanks for, and to whom?
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #528 on: 11-22-2007 23:43 »
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Everything we have. We thank "God" for it. I don't really get the god stuff. You know I never really understood the holidy. Basically pilgrims came and started America and killed the Natie Americans and we celebrate the Native helping us to survive the winter even though we basically took them over.
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« Reply #529 on: 11-22-2007 23:56 »

I see.

*(doesn't)*

We just have Christmas.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #530 on: 11-22-2007 23:59 »
« Last Edit on: 11-23-2007 00:00 »

   
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
I see.

*(doesn't)*

We just have Christmas.

Yeah I don't get half the holidays also I'm a horrible explainer. By the way it's X-mas coldy. I've never heard of this Christmas...

A new page without a slash pic. I'll fix that...



Haha not Kirk/Spock today!!

We should get back to the shipping discussion though...
Decapodian

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« Reply #531 on: 11-23-2007 02:19 »

When is the Bender's Big Score DVD coming out in Australia?
Archonix

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« Reply #532 on: 11-23-2007 03:46 »

That poster has prompted me to do something that will deistct me from tha tposter, so I read up on thanksgiving. Turns out the holiday was only made a national holiday by Lincoln following the end of the civil war. He wanted everyone to give thanks for the unity of the nation. Twas never officially about the indians...

Thanksgiving is, of course, based on the old christian and pre-christian tradition of gathering up the crops before winter and then feasting (and at one time sacrificing) in thanks for a good harvest. Over here we call it the harvest festival and have all sorts of silly things like corn dollies and fetes and fairs and scones with jam and cream on them. Or we used to... don't know where all that's gone these days.

I wonder if Fry will have his own private thanksgiving once they're together. Cos we has a topic.
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« Reply #533 on: 11-23-2007 05:14 »

<<christian and pre-christian tradition of gathering up the crops before winter and then feasting >>

We Australians refer to this as a 'Barbeque' or 'BBQ'.

Honestly, you humans and your grovelling to deities... [God]Every time I try to talk to someone it's "sorry this" and "forgive me that" and "I'm not worthy"...[/God]
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« Reply #534 on: 11-23-2007 08:56 »

 
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Everything we have. We thank "God" for it. I don't really get the god stuff. You know I never really understood the holidy. Basically pilgrims came and started America and killed the Natie Americans and we celebrate the Native helping us to survive the winter even though we basically took them over.

Us Native Americans aren't still griping about it, and neither should you. There is no one alive today responsible for the events of the past.

Anyway, last night I watched the film. Yes, I did. And although I don't quite agree with JustNibblin''s 'controversial' shippy rating, I can agree there's gonna be a lot of discussion here soon... Ethical discussion. Also, a certain line towards the beginning smells largely of that post by Shiny I quoted on the first page...

I'll save my big review for the 27th. I'm still analyzing it's shippy factor. As well as it's connections with Devil's Hands. The latter is looking very hopeful. The former...


Also, last night, I played a game of Yahtzee. I lost.

Oh, and before I forget... In order to commemorate the film, I think it's time for another Shippy Fanart/Logo competition! I got inspired by a certain line from BBS.

People mocked me... But who's lucky now?!  big grin
Archonix

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« Reply #535 on: 11-23-2007 09:52 »

Losing at yahtzee is by no definition "lucky". Unless you got the booby prize...

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« Reply #536 on: 11-23-2007 09:59 »
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I was the only person who lost. What are those odds? Coincidence? I think not!

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« Reply #537 on: 11-23-2007 17:08 »

I placed my review in the "Bender's Big Score Review" section.  Most of you won't be pleased by what I wrote.  Let's just say that I wasn't too kind in my review and the Leela-lovers will absolutely want my hide after reading what I feel about her.
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« Reply #538 on: 11-23-2007 18:30 »

...

See, this is what I get for daring to venture on-topic.

Homo-erotic Trek-Porn.

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« Reply #539 on: 11-23-2007 21:50 »

 
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[God]Every time I try to talk to someone it's "sorry this" and "forgive me that" and "I'm not worthy"...[/God]

HA! 500 points to Coldy for the Python reference. Anyway I found out today that since FOX screwed up they shipped my DVD early so that it will arrive on monday. Bad news is I'll be hunting in the mountains until tuesday night so I guess it evens out.

Also I seem to be back to normal if anyone noticed.
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« Reply #540 on: 11-23-2007 23:57 »

Frisco - What are you hunting? MILFs?

SlackJaw - homo-erotic Trek-Porn is the new black.

Ralph, Xan, Arch - You smarmy bastards and your DVDs... there's still no word on when the movie is gonna make it to this Region-4 backwater...
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« Reply #541 on: 11-24-2007 04:45 »

So no-one knows when the DVd is going to be released in Australia?

The people in Iceland will probably get it before we do.
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« Reply #542 on: 11-24-2007 07:48 »

there's always good old eBay. It should be on there as soon as it's released in the states. That's where i'm planning on getting it from.
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« Reply #543 on: 11-24-2007 08:02 »

 
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I placed my review in the "Bender's Big Score Review" section.  Most of you won't be pleased by what I wrote.  Let's just say that I wasn't too kind in my review and the Leela-lovers will absolutely want my hide after reading what I feel about her.


And now that I've said that, there is going to be some 'controversy' here...

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:

See, this is what I get for daring to venture on-topic.

Homo-erotic Trek-Porn.


That's only because those two have gotten more canon action than Fry and Leela have.

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« Reply #544 on: 11-24-2007 08:24 »

Go ahead and hate me for showing you the way, Xanfor.  I barely tolerated Leela's attitude towards Fry during the series, but after this movie, the way she treats him makes me totally despise her.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #545 on: 11-24-2007 10:16 »

I hate the way Leela treats Fry most of the time too. But what see was doing in Bender's Big Score was even worse than normal. At least with all of the other guys she dated she didn't prance them around in from of Fry like she did in BBS. I haven't seen the end yet so I'm not really sure on what happens excatly.
km73

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« Reply #546 on: 11-24-2007 10:36 »

Yes she did prance them around; at least Chaz-the-mayor's-aide, anyway. And Adlai.

I have now heard the end; couldn't get a picture though. Verrry hard to tell what exactly was going on just from the audio. I still don't get the part. So I'm still reserving my opinion about the ending. But I guess I'll post some sort of a review soon.
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« Reply #547 on: 11-24-2007 10:47 »

Leela:  I've met another guy that I'm in love with.  I'll show him off like some sort of trophy.  Oh, especially in front of Fry.  Yeah Fry, see what you want and can't have?

(Romance goes astray)

Leela:  Let me dump all my feelings on Fry.  He's my 'friend'.  He's always there to comfort me.

Turanga Leela needs professional help and a Prozac the size of a softball.  Oh, and a clue.

When I started watching the series, I sympathized with Leela - hard life, issues with abandoment, etc.  Then she gets her dream job, finds her parents, etc.  You'd think that she'd start showing a little compassion towards the people who care about her, yet as the series progressed she seemed to become more manipulative, cold and crass towards Fry.

So Leela's getting her shit together - what about Fry?  He has lost everything dear to him - Seymour, his family, etc.

I'm going to have the wrath of Venus and Shiny (MIA, we miss you) cast upon me like a Bibical curse, but I don't care.  Leela's crassness and cold-hearted way she treats Fry, yet runs to him when life starts to come apart for her isn't love, isn't friendship, but the marks of a true, feminine manipulator with a block of ice where her heart should be.

My wife is trying to tell me that Leela made amends at the very end of BBS, but to me it was typical, "Well, that didn't work out, let me go back to Fry, he'll comfort me."

Turanga Leela, bite my hairy, white ass.
Archonix

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« Reply #548 on: 11-24-2007 11:07 »
« Last Edit on: 11-24-2007 11:07 »

[edit]
Having now watched it, I can conclusively say that not only is Ralph's rant not even remotely justified, the below answer is also stupid since it's not based on what actually happened.

So take it all with a pinch of salt...
[/edit]

I suspect that may be part of Fry's infatuation with her, actually. I agree that she can be... difficult to get along with (and I may well win the understatement of the century award for that one) but her behaviour is actually consistent with the sort of life she's lived. I've seen and worked with people who have had a really hard life up to a point and then started to get the life they always dreamed about. The most common reaction is pretty much how Leela reacts. They can't handle it. It almost goes to their head. They often treat close friends quite badly, splash out their new-found freedom on wasted things (equivalent to Fry flaunting the jerks she dates - living on the wild side and all that). After a while they start to get a grip on things again and it's usually then that they turn to the supportive "friend" for genuine reasons. Sometimes these friends have had enough and moved on. Sometimes they're the sort of people who are willing to wait through that crappy period.

We've seen aspects of Leela that prove she can be caring and loving and all that stuff. She can be tough without being callous. Right now, if she were a real person, she'd be at a stage where there's only so much advice you could give her without pushing her into complete denial about her behaviour. She's in an abusive mode, but that sort of behaviour will pass eventually as she matures into the new aspects of her life.

I know we've had well over two years between Leela's Homeworld and the events of BBS but that's from our point of view only. The writers haven't had two seasons of episodes to chart her life during that period which means that she has not changed.

To me, this sounds like the sort of behaviour an adolescent goes through toward the end of puberty. They occasionally rvvert to an extremely childlike behaviour, not because that's how they want to be but because it's secure. Leela finds security in acting like a jerk because that's all she's known, and because she's temporarily reverting she acts it out to an extreme. All I can say is, have a little faith. She'll get over it. The only question is whether Fry can have that faith.
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« Reply #549 on: 11-24-2007 16:28 »

I agree about how she grew up coul affect her, but you'd think that she'd be a bit more caring. It's how she treats Fry that really bugs me. Fry's always there for her but as soon as a seemingly good guy comes along she's basically like "Fuck Fry." Then the guys turns out to be not so good or something bad happens all of the sudden she's like "I need Fry." I haven't seen the end of BBS yet I'm in the process of watching it from the beginng but I'll post what I think when I finish. I can't believe that Fry just hasn't given up on Leela yet. The way she treats him isn't fair. That prooves how much Fry loves her because if he didn't I seriously doubt that he'd continuously take this much abuse. I don't get why Leela doesn't care that Fry has lost everyone he loved. she know what it feels like but yet she has no sympathy for him. I think that the writers could have done something about softening her up over the last few years even thought there was no seasons it has been years since Leela's homeworld but yet she still acts pretty much exactly like she did before. She had to have changed a little even if it wasn't alot.

Did any of that even make sense?
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« Reply #550 on: 11-24-2007 20:17 »
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Woah people seem to be getting pretty worked up. Just like the good old days!! It's a shame I'm not gonna be here to see it. I'm just gonna continue to refrain from commenting until I see it. I already jumped the gun a few times.

Amy: "Fool me seven times, shame on you. Fool me eight or more times, shame on me."

 
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Frisco - What are you hunting? MILFs?

Also, for the record Coldy, I'll be hunting deer.
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« Reply #551 on: 11-24-2007 20:23 »
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Let's just say that this movie pushed me over the edge and I'm now a complete "Anti-Shipper".  They can write the frickin' Fry/Leela romance completely out of the series.  To me it would improve things tremendously.  Let Fry go back to this point:

"Fifty bucks?  Not even if she was my girlfriend.  You take her!"

I'd almost rather see Fry and Bender become a Robo-sexual couple and discard Leela like she seems to discard her friends when things are going well for her.

Let the purple-haired imbecile go back to the life of being alone.  It's what she deserves.
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« Reply #552 on: 11-24-2007 20:44 »

I just don't see it. perhaps I'm just not as jaded but, apart from the "rejection" of the ending of Devils Hands, there's nothing that seemed particularly overtly hostile toward Fry. In my mind that ending altered their relationship, certainly, but there was no firm evidence that it had any permanent effect or that the alteration actually moved them any closer to a romantic relationship.

Just in case...

I'll have to watch it again, but i didn't see any overt flaunting or cruel behaviour toward Fry with the relationship. In fact what I saw was Leela simply falling in love. When you fall in love you say and do stupid things. I also saw Fry acting very badly about it (see previous point about stupid things), then maturing a little bit and trying to give Leela what he thought she wanted.

She wasn't particularly kind to Lars when he

IMO there's still hope. There's always hope. I suspect your big beef is the apparent retconning of Devils Hands but, like I said, that was never meant to imply anything apart from Fry's desires about how things would go. Leela didn't outright reject Fry, she just found a better Fry.
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« Reply #553 on: 11-24-2007 21:41 »
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She may have found a better Fry but it's still Fry.
(or was it 3 I'm still not sure about how I view it in Parasites Lost) so far and even married him once
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« Reply #554 on: 11-24-2007 21:57 »

 
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Originally posted by Ralph Snart:
Let's just say that this movie pushed me over the edge and I'm now a complete "Anti-Shipper".  They can write the frickin' Fry/Leela romance completely out of the series.  To me it would improve things tremendously.  Let Fry go back to this point:

"Fifty bucks?  Not even if she was my girlfriend.  You take her!"

I'd almost rather see Fry and Bender become a Robo-sexual couple and discard Leela like she seems to discard her friends when things are going well for her.

Let the purple-haired imbecile go back to the life of being alone.  It's what she deserves.


I have to agree with you there Ralph. Leela does kinds act like a bitch sometimes.

Fry and Bender, hey? Or how about the ever so disturbing possibility that the writers develop a Fry/Prof thing going on.

And then, even more disturbing, no-one will want to go out with Leela after that and so she turns to the only person who'll have her.

Leela/Zoidberg.  *shudders*

There's probably a Leela/Zoidberg fan-fic lying somewhere in the depths of cyberspace. If there's a Fry/Zapp fic then there could be anything out there.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #555 on: 11-24-2007 22:04 »
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I have to agree with you there Ralph. Leela does kinds act like a bitch sometimes.

Fry and Bender, hey? Or how about the ever so disturbing possibility that the writers develop a Fry/Prof thing going on.

And then, even more disturbing, no-one will want to go out with Leela after that and so she turns to the only person who'll have her.

Leela/Zoidberg.  *shudders*

There's probably a Leela/Zoidberg fan-fic lying somewhere in the depths of cyberspace. If there's a Fry/Zapp fic then there could be anything out there.

I agree with Ralph too about Leela. Not sure about the Fry/Bender robosexual stuff but Hey I could deal with that. I could deal with Fry/Bender Deca but the rest of the stuff that you listed...   puke. Wrong of so many levels.
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« Reply #556 on: 11-24-2007 22:11 »

Hating Leela for being bitchy? What a concept! Hey, while we're at it, let's hate Bender for being a jerk, Fry for being immature, Hermes for being anal, and the Professor for being a crotchety old man.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #557 on: 11-24-2007 22:12 »

 
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Hating Leela for being bitchy? What a concept! Hey, while we're at it, let's hate Bender for being a jerk, Fry for being immature, Hermes for being anal, and the Professor for being a crotchety old man.

I don't hate Leela she just pisses me off with how she treats Fry.
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« Reply #558 on: 11-24-2007 22:18 »

 
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  I agree with Ralph too about Leela. Not sure about the Fry/Bender robosexual stuff but Hey I could deal with that. I could deal with Fry/Bender Deca but the rest of the stuff that you listed...    puke. Wrong of so many levels.

The Leela/Zoidberg thing was supposed to be disgusting. I knew you guys wouldn't like it. A man can dream though, a man can dream...


Twilight is quite possibly the worst popular book ever written.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #559 on: 11-24-2007 22:21 »

A man can dream but that is just...eugh! If you want Leela/Zoidberg story write it your self deca.
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