The Evil Conspiracy Against Pedro Thread

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What was the point of Devils Hands? There was no actual implication that they would have a relationship at the end beyond Fry's holophoner fantasy. For all we know, Leela could have leaped on stage and beaten him to a bloody pulp with it five seconds after he'd finished.

Unlikely, I know.

I personally think the point was to illustrate that things might be changing, not that they would be changing. It was, at the time, the last ever episode but while they wanted to give the fans closure, I'm certain they knew at some point the series would be revived, so they deliberately left things open.

Of course the only people who actually know what's going on are the creators and the lucky sods who've seen it already. We're in for the long-haul now.

This is fun! We're speculating over things we haven't seen yet! When was the last time anyone got to do that?

 

Was that the mountain-climbing analogy?

It was. However you may have meant it, that's what I got out of it.

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Oh yes, and...

[Reply #441 on:]

Going back to Leela telling Fry she loves him...she may have never actually said 'I love you', but I always found this line from The Sting telling: "The only time I feel all right is in my dreams, with you". That bit always gets to me for some reason.
I think Leela has tremendous reserves of untapped affection. Whether she chooses to use them on Fry or continues to prefer a string of jerkwads remains to be seen.

[Reply #442 on:]

 

Originally posted by km73:
Going back to Leela telling Fry she loves him...she may have never actually said 'I love you', but I always found this line from The Sting telling: "The only time I feel all right is in my dreams, with you". That bit always gets to me for some reason.

Me too. I think because often dreams are where you can escape from everything, "I've never been treated so romantically by my own imagination before" where she's let go of all her fears to be with him.

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Originally posted by Archonix:

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Oh yes, and...

Speaking of unwanted 'Ships...



...

[Reply #444 on:]

Is that the bastard?

Oh hell... he looks like me...

[Reply #445 on:]

Anyone who obtains an avatar of him shall be instantly and painfully banned from this thread for all eternity.

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I was not even considering it. In fact, because he looks so much like me, I'm actually looking for somewhere to hide now...

edit: all you people with your depression are starting to get to me now. I found myself crying over the ending of a Star Trek episode - I never cry at Star Trek (except maybe when I'm forced to watch Voyager). I'm gtting emotional over things that make absolutely no sense. I haven't felt like this since Wash died in Serenity. That is the only film that's ever made me cry.

Of course they were manly tears of manlyness, full of testosterone and salty manly goodness...     

edit2: And this song didn't help my mood much either...

[Reply #447 on:]

Pedro La Loco Went Down to PEEL
(Tune: The Devil Went Down to Georgia)

The spirit of Pedro La Loco was pervading through the thread,
He was in bind 'cause he was way behind, the shippers weren't yet dead.
When he came across this older fella, shippin' on in hope a lot,
And La Loco materilised in front of him said "Boy, let me tell you what:
I bet you can see around you, the 'Ship's about to fall,
Bender's Big Score's a'comin', with plot set to enthral.
Now you can 'ship quite well, as I have always plainly knew,
But I'll bet a fart against your heart, that my view is better than you!"
The fella said "As sure as my name's Xanfor, I'll take you on your deal!
I take your bet, you're gonna regret, I'm an optimist's ideal!"

Xanny you jump up fast and write a shippy fic,
'Cause Pedro's loose in the forum and you know it makes us sick!
And if you win, the spirit leaves, in the wake of a smelly fart,
But if you lose, Pedro breaks your heart!

Pedro cracked his knuckles and said to Xan, "I'll start this show"
He snapped his fingers, once then twice, and appeared a space-time hole.
They stared into the future, at the end of movie one.
And the sight was quite depressing 'cause it seemed the 'Ship was done.

When the film was over, and La Loco quite impressed,
Xanfor shook his head and said "I never would have guessed.
You think us shippers are gonna stop, you think it's over then?
Well just sit back on that there haystack and we'll go over this again!

We know the 'Ship's got more that's concealed!
Here in the shippy thread of PEEL!
We know that the movies have quite an appeal!
They're together in the end so what's the big deal?

Pedro bowed his head 'cause he knew that's he'd been pwned.
He gave his fart and left Xan's heart and his face became withdrawn.
Xanny said "La Loco, you come back here, as often as you can,
We've told you once, you ol' n00b you, we're Futurama's shippy fans!"

And the 'Ship's still got more that's still concealed!
We know in the shippy thread of PEEL!
We know that the movies have quite an appeal!
They're together in the end so what's the big deal?

[Reply #448 on:]

Nice song Xan. It's ok archonix, I get depressed over stuff that makes no sense all the time. I can't really see that picture of Leela and that guy it small. But I don't think that I would be too happy with it any way. And I love today's picture.

[Reply #449 on:]

He is called Lars, isn't he?

Just an attempt at a little catharsis. It amused me.     

[Reply #450 on:]

 

Originally posted by Archonix:
He is called Lars, isn't he?.

Just an attempt at a little catharsis. It amused me.   

Nice.

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Archonix, you have earned a bear hug. 

[Reply #452 on:]

Second!

Anywho I came up with a theory yesterday while watching TWOF. Somehow "The Mayor's Aid" made me think that no matter what happens it will be undone by either Bender or somebody else medling with time. So it will probably have everything back to normal at the end or at least not dramaticaly different. Beyond this I have decided to stop trying to figure things out and just wait because I'll probably be wrong anyway. I also noticed nobody chose to comment on my idea that the guy in the bubble (who I assume is Lars) looks alot like the professor from that angle.

PS: For those of you farmiliar with Eric Clapton, I've had a certain song of his playing in my head since yesterday. Can't imagine why.

[Reply #453 on:]

 

Originally posted by Archonix:

He is called Lars, isn't he?

Just an attempt at a little catharsis. It amused me.     

Lars Fillmore.     

[Reply #454 on:]

Is he a bastard or do we all hate him just ecause he interferes with the 'ship?

[Reply #455 on:]

Both.

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Originally posted by SonicPanther:
Is he a bastard or do we all hate him just ecause he interferes with the 'ship?

Both!

[Reply #457 on:]

That JustNibblin' feels he is deserving of two "finger smilies" tells me he is, indeed, a bastard.

That is the assumption I will stand by for now to make me feel better, at any rate.

[Reply #458 on:]

Based on her track record, if Leela's interested in him, you can bet he's a bastard. 

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Originally posted by km73:
Based on her track record, if Leela's interested in him, you can bet he's a bastard.   

Heh, that's certainly true.

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Originally posted by SonicPanther:
Is he a bastard or do we all hate him just ecause he interferes with the 'ship?

Come to think of it, what's the difference?

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Oh yeah it is. Why is Leela always attracted to bastards? she has one of the sweetest guys ever who's been trying to get her to go out with him for years who loves that she's different and yet she goes for the fucking pricks who don't like what makes her different or don't give a shit about who she is. Why?

Yeah that's true Xanny.

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I don't know, Gene. A few of them were nice, like...

...Yeah, you're right.

[Reply #463 on:]

I thought all women were attracted to bastards?  At least that's how it seems to those of us who have tried being "nice guys" out here in the real world.

Or, to put it more fairly, many (most?) women are naturally attracted to confident, self-assured guys who live on their own terms and don't feel the need to apologize for it.  And who fits that description better than a complete asshole?

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It's back.

[Reply #465 on:]

Good god Deca not again!!!

Sarcastinator: Confident yes... bastards no. I like self confident guys but I hate bastards and ass-holes.

[Reply #466 on:]

It's just a matter of degree.  Why do so many guys actually seem to like ludicrously overinflated silicone breasts hard enough to stop a bullet?  Because they're biologically programmed to respond to a particular trait, and that primitive sexual part of their brain doesn't understand the concept of "enough".

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Originally posted by sarcastinator:
It's just a matter of degree.  Why do so many guys actually seem to like ludicrously overinflated silicone breasts hard enough to stop a bullet?  Because they're biologically programmed to respond to a particular trait, and that primitive sexual part of their brain doesn't understand the concept of "enough".

Why anyone would want those anyway is beyond me. People just need to put limits on what they can take. Leela is obviously trying to decide where to draw the line at self confident and bastard-ish at least she stopped it with Chaz as soon as he was mean to the orphans but that had gone on way too long. I would have dumped him on his ass as soon as I realized that he was just being pompous, I have no idea how Leela went on that long with him. Same with Adlai. All he freaking cared about was how she looked. I'm suprised that he didn't have Leela dye her hair brown too look even more normal. I would hate having a guy who only cared about normalicy I'm proud to be strange that's what makes me, me.

[Reply #468 on:]

Because he held a position of indirect respect and oblique power.  And she, being emotionally damaged from a lifetime alone, is incapable of resisting that kind of knight-in-shining-armor fantasy.

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Originally posted by SonicPanther:

I don't know, Gene. A few of them were nice, like...

...Gary, the lizard-tongue guy.

[Reply #470 on:]

I'm sure he would have turned out to be a bastard if she'd given him a chance.

[Reply #471 on:]

 

Originally posted by Xanfor:

 ...Gary, the lizard-tongue guy.

His name was Doug...

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Originally posted by km73: I think Leela has tremendous reserves of untapped affection. Whether she chooses to use them on Fry or continues to prefer a string of jerkwads remains to be seen.

There's nothing that actually suggests that she shows affection for any of the jerkwads she dates, right? It's like if she chooses to like someone, it's for a very specific reason, except for Fry in Devils' Hands. It was different in the sense that Fry sort of grew on her (at least as much as can be portrayed in a 20-minute episode).

As for what happened after the concert, my take is that he got his foot caught in his mouth again by talking about Amy.

I liked the cartoon, Archonix!

 

Originally posted by Frisco17:  For those of you farmiliar with Eric Clapton, I've had a certain song of his playing in my head since yesterday.

That's odd, I was humming Cocaine out loud all day too 

 

Originally posted by sarcastinator: I thought all women were attracted to bastards?  At least that's how it seems to those of us who have tried being "nice guys" out here in the real world.

How true! (may be NSFW)

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Different women are attracted to different things. IMO, sarcastinator is the closest. Leela has a very bad self-image and has spent a lot of time being "tough" to compensate, but all she really wants is someone to come along and rescue her. Fry very definitely isn't going to be the sort of man who does that, at least not in the way she thinks it should be done, so she seeks out what she perceives to be powerful men, or men who can save her from her current life. Adlai "saved" her by transforming her into what she thought was the ideal of beauty, for example.

It makes a nice mirror for the argument about Fry earlier. He has to make himself more mature to attract her, but she can only accept his attention for what it is if she can learn to accept herself.

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Adlai "saved" her by transforming her into what she thought was the ideal of beauty, for example.

Don't mean to nitpick, but I thought Leela wanted two eyes to "fit in and be normal", not because she thought it made her more beautiful.

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Being normal and being close to society's ideal of beauty are practically the same thing in most people's minds. More to the point, being "normal" is Leela's ideal of beauty, which is why she reacted so badly to Fry's insistence that she was better with one eye. Leela obviously has a lot of difficulty accepting Fry's attention, possibly because she considers him to be flawed in some way.

Right, I'm going off to NOT look at anything on PEEL for the rest of the day now. I just read a review of big score that has made me very confused.

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Originally posted by sarcastinator: I thought all women were attracted to bastards? At least that's how it seems to those of us who have tried being "nice guys" out here in the real world.

Instinctive drive - the 'stronger' the male counterpart seems, the more likely he is to provide plentiful raw mammoth meat and protect the cave from sabretooths. Since practical demonstrations of such skills aren't frequent in modern times the female's subconscious instead attempts to gauge strength through indirect indicators, which normally amount to simple bastardry (strutting pompousness and disregard for others).
This is, of course, an inaccurate association, as we know that the quiet and reserved man is more often the one with the most powerful killer and survival instinct... but human perception is far from perfect.

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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
  Instinctive drive - the 'stronger' the male counterpart seems, the more likely he is to provide plentiful raw mammoth meat and protect the cave from sabretooths. Since practical demonstrations of such skills aren't frequent in modern times the female's subconscious instead attempts to gauge strength through indirect indicators, which normally amount to simple bastardry (strutting pompousness and disregard for others).
This is, of course, an inaccurate association, as we know that the quiet and reserved man is more often the one with the most powerful killer and survival instinct... but human perception is far from perfect.

This is a good example of Social evolution and biological evolution being out of sync. I do think though as people age, as a general rule this eroneous association between good provider and bastard becomes increasingly apparent...mind you some people never learn!

leela is still stuck in this state of misperception, and I would guess given her rocky start in life might be a bit slower in breaking out of it.

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I guess. I need to read those again but don't have the tiem at present. Yeah she does act tought to ncompenstae for stuff so that makes sense that she would want someone who she doesn't need to do that with.

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Gaschief - the orphenarium environment could be equated to the prison environment, in which it's prudent to attach one's self to bad-ass top-dogs for safety. So Leela's orphenarium mentality of sticking on the side of the tough folk whenever possible may have translated to later life.

People at school used to think I was a loser - but who's the one systematically murdering our entire graduating class now six years later?! Is that what a loser does!?

That was probably unrelated.