gwynhwyfar
Bending Unit
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Bender: I'll miss you, Leela. [Leela is in a circus animal cage.] I know you're just a carbon-based life form but I'll always think of you as a big pile of titanium. [He sobs. Fry puts his arm around him.] Fry: What Bender means is, you're really brave, and smart, and beautiful, and a great friend.Bender: (crying) Just like titanium! [thanks to TLZ and CGEF] just throwing back in the shippyness. although bender seemed to be more emotional over leela than fry.
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Officer 1BDI
Starship Captain
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« Reply #482 on: 08-22-2007 19:00 »
« Last Edit on: 08-22-2007 19:00 »
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an example would be how in ISTE he didn't seem to care a bit that her pet had been flushed down the toilet To his credit, I thought he looked pretty pissed off at Bender when they were restraining him: And he looks like he's making some effort to comfort her here. I agree with your general sentiment, but I'd chalk it up to a combination of "the writers were still trying to get a feel for Fry" and "Fry hadn't realized just how special Leela was to him at the time." It doesn't excuse his behavior, but it makes it a little more understandable, at least for me.
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coldangel
DOOP Secretary
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When I act disinterested toward women, it's usually because I'm trying to appear cool. I really do want them, but I don't want to appear like I want them.
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Ralph Snart
Agent Provocateur
Near Death Star Inhabitant
DOOP Secretary
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Ah, but Fry did risk his safety by going into the sewers to look for Bender without her asking. He threw himself between the mutants and Leela with fire.
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Officer 1BDI
Starship Captain
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« Reply #488 on: 08-22-2007 23:15 »
« Last Edit on: 08-22-2007 23:15 »
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Originally posted by km73: Oh, absolutely, I agree with those two statements, but I just meant that there are just as many examples of him acting kind of disinterested towards her as there of him being sweet, but these tend to get ignored in the comments of shippers. ...Yeah, I admit I'm guilty of this. Originally posted by fryandlemon: But I remember feeling a little bothered by Fry in The Cyber House Rules. Okay, first he showed a little bit of jealousy, but then when Leela was thinking of having kids with Adlai, he just stood there looking uninterested.. I think at that point he was just at a complete loss. Leela was pretty happy with Adlai, and although he was horribly boring, he wasn't hurting her to the extent that Zapp and Al had (in fact, up until the jail scene, I thought he seemed like one of the more decent guys she'd hooked up with). They were practically engaged at that point, and I think Fry had decided that as long as Leela was happy, he shouldn't force the issue more than he already had. He kind of did the same thing with Chaz: initially he reacted with jealousy, and though it was pretty obvious that Chaz was pushy (to everyone but his date) and pompous, once Leela was actually with him, he didn't try to object to the relationship. He even (arguably) helped prolong the date by agreeing to watch Nibbler that night. I saw those as attempts on his part to allow Leela to be happy, his own emotions notwithstanding, rather than him simply throwing his arms up and saying "*pfft* I give up." Plus... Leela's stubborn enough that I think she would had to see for herself that the guys she was dating were jerks, and no amount of convincing from Fry would be enough to sway her opinion.
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Xanfor
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
When I act disinterested toward women, it's usually because I'm trying to appear cool. I really do want them, but I don't want to appear like I want them. When I act disinterested toward women, it's usually because I am disinterested in them. I really am disinterested, and I don't really care if they notice I'm disinterested.
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SonicPanther
Professor
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I, um... I have no idea what that means. *hangs head in shame*
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by km73: In relation to absolutely nothing, I just found an old thread called 'Relationships' in which SpaceCase refers to Leela and Fry as being "on an asymptotal trajectory." God that's great. I wish i would have thought of that. I'm glad you liked it. It’s actually “asymptotic.” Originally posted by SonicPanther: I, um... I have no idea what that means. *hangs head in shame* I'm sorry. It seems that every time Fry & Leela get close, something always gets in the way - which stands to reason. WHEN Fry & Leela finally forge a loving, comitted relationship, that ends a compelling plot-line for the show. Many people would call that a "Jump-the-Shark" point. Rather than launch into an explanation of asymptotes that’ll cure your insomnia, I refer you to my original posts. If anyone cares, I said “asymptotic trajectory,” here, and linked to an explanation of asymptotes, here. [*Crickets chirp*] [*Ahem*] I, uh... I’m... I’ll just... ooze back out under the lab door now...
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coldangel
DOOP Secretary
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I don't know why they can't just be like every other non-comitted workplace 'couple' who are attracted to each other but restrained in that attraction, and just fuck each other every year after getting drunk at the office X-Mas party, and then pretend not to remember it afterwards.
...Because in the end, isn't that the most fulfilling relationship?
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coldangel
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Sine Wave: Well, Fry isn't restrained in his attraction, only Leela is. Having a one night stand with someone who's dying to love you is a little, well, wrong, don't you think? What is this ' wrong' you speak of? With few morals to call my own, I'm probably the 'wrong' person to ask. Heh. It would be fun though.
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Xanfor
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Sine Wave: Well, Fry isn't restrained in his attraction, only Leela is. Having a one night stand with someone who's dying to love you is a little, well, wrong, don't you think? What about on Freedom Day? Originally posted by coldangel_1:
...Because in the end, isn't that the most fulfilling relationship? Boring, more like.
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HipNoJoe
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by km73: ...Leela and Fry as being "on an asymptotal trajectory." God that's great... I recall a professor explaining the difference between engineers and mathematicians using the same analogy. The mathematician never gets the girl because he never reaches infinity where the curves intersect. The engineer on the other hand at some point says "close enough" and gets the girl. Hey ladies, he was old and his classes had been 95% male his whole career.Anyway, Fry is an "engineer." Is Leela a "mathematician?" To me, in Devil's Hands, Leela takes the engineer route.
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coldangel
DOOP Secretary
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I write like it's going out of style, baby! I wrote a whole goddamn novel that no bastard will pick up for a publishing deal consarnit! *grumble grouch* Glad you liked that little short tale. I was bucking my own trend by writing from the female perspective there, but you have to challenge yourself if you truly wish to grow.
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bend_her
Professor
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Originally posted by HipNoJoe: I recall a professor explaining the difference between engineers and mathematicians using the same analogy. The mathematician never gets the girl because he never reaches infinity where the curves intersect. The engineer on the other hand at some point says "close enough" and gets the girl. Engineers get girls? [Zoidberg] "What! When did this happen? You're kidding right? THAT'S NOT FUNNY!" [/Zoidberg] * dreams *
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coldangel
DOOP Secretary
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I heard another joke about engineers... let's see if I can remember....
An engineering student was walking across campus when another engineer rides up on a shiny new motorcycle.
"Where did you get such a rockin' bike?" asked the first.
The second engineer replied, "Well, I was walking along yesterday minding my own business when a beautiful woman rode up on this bike. She threw the bike to the ground, took off all her clothes and said "Take what you want."
The second engineer nodded approvingly "Good choice, the clothes probably wouldn't have fit."
Heh heh. True.
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Xanfor
DOOP Secretary
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And old. How do you think I got my bike?
Now this:
A mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer were all given a red rubber ball and told to find the volume. The mathematician carefully measured the diameter and evaluated a triple integral. The physicist filled a beaker with water, put the ball in the water, and measured the total displacement. The engineer looked up the model and serial numbers in his red-rubber-ball table.
That's comedy!
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coldangel
DOOP Secretary
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Instead of "Claus" he writes "Claws"! Now that's humorous. Today's comedians could learn from this card.
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Xanfor
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Xanfor: My dear shippers, once you hear Dolly Parton’s original 1974 recording of 'I Will Always Love You', the song made popular and sucky on the Bodyguard soundtrack, you will truly, and possibly for the first time in your entire life, know what it means for things not to suck. And at that point, your entire universe will turn upside down. Everything that used to seem normal to you will suddenly seem right. By the way, did anyone click that link? I love that song. Cried, first time I heard it. Long time ago, that was. Nice video to go with it, here. Slightly comedic, too.
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Frisco17
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by SpaceCase: It seems that every time Fry & Leela get close, something always gets in the way - which stands to reason. WHEN Fry & Leela finally forge a loving, comitted relationship, that ends a compelling plot-line for the show. Many people would call that a "Jump-the-Shark" point.
I always hate when people say that Fry and Leela getting togther would be "jumping the shark". Yes, it would end a major plot line but it would also create a new one. There could be just as many hilarious situations with them as a couple as when Fry is chasing after her.
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Frida Waterfall
Professor
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Originally posted by Frisco17: I always hate when people say that Fry and Leela getting togther would be "jumping the shark". Yes, it would end a major plot line but it would also create a new one. There could be just as many hilarious situations with them as a couple as when Fry is chasing after her. Their relationship isn't what attracts the audience for the "funny" part of the show. It's the dimensions to it that hook us "sensitives" to the show. If it wasn't for how complex the two were, I'd probably only be a casual viewer for the show. I not a big fan of sci-fi (but I haven't watched many sci-fis to begin with), and I'm sure there are other fans of their relationship who are like that too. Fry and Leela's relationship is one of the fuels for the show, and it's probably the strongest. If a resolution to their relationship was made and the show continued with the two together, viewers like us wouldn't be so caught-up into their relationship. For example, look at Amy and Kif's relationship. There are so few shippers because their relationship is overshadowed by the much more passion-driven, emotional, and active relationship with Fry and Leela. We might fantasize on Fry and Leela getting married and having freak babies now, but if it actually happened (in a canonical way), we wouldn't be nearly as interested in their relationship.
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