We Ship for Free Anywhere In the Galaxy! Shipper Thread V

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3) Leela and Amy, interesting? You would have to throw far more than canon out the window in order to make that work. Like, say, the dynamics of their enviroment. The dynamics of their relation. Their personalities, to wit. By the time it's all brought together, and assuming they are open to 'bending that way', what you've got left would not be Futurama, and thus, would not be interesting.

Assume that if you must - but I've learned from my six years of surfing the 'net(not a lot, but it's something) that any ship can work in fanfic if the writer has respect for and vast knowledge of the source material and its characters. It's the writer that makes the story good rather than the subject if you think about. Hell, I once wrote a Warriors slash story between two cats that hated each other and got nothing but praise for it because I knew what I was writing for, and I was able to put the characters in the situation appropriately.

TOTPD and half way there!

[Reply #361 on:]

And another thing Xanfor, have you forgotten the start of Secrets of the Night? Okay so it went down hill after a few chapter because no one read it, but in the start, it was Leela and Amy finding comfort in eachother, hell, even Coldangel liked it, without lewd comments!

Now I'm not saying it ever would happen, I'm not saying it should or could happen, I'm just saying I'd like to see it if it did. So get the hell off of you high horse and listen the first time you numbskull.

[Reply #362 on:]

I am listening, otherwise I wouldn't have responded.

Anyway, I'm not saying it wouldn't work, I'm just saying it would take a good deal of work in order to sound believable. And not cliché, of course, like so many fics involving 'coming-out' are.

Now, if someone were to write a fic in which Leela turned to Amy for support and in which they developed a romantic friendship, then I would be interested. Not only would that require opening the characters up more (which is always good if done well), a great lot of comedy and drama could be incorporated simply by virtue of it's taking place in a sex-obsessed society. The Fry and Leela dynamic could even be kept if the writer was really good. Imagine the possibilities resulting from the misconceptions...

If one could keep the Futurama humour, I believe this would be an excellent character-exploring excursion. Mind you, still wouldn't be Futurama per se, but neither is any fanfic. That's why we rallied to have the show back, remember?

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Originally posted by Xanfor:
I'm just saying it would take a good deal of work in order to sound believable.

Leela slept with Zapp. Zapp. After that, I don't think Amy would be a stretch. Not at all.



"...And another thing!" Leela snapped angrily, prodding Amy in the chest with her index finger. "Stop cluttering up the washroom with all your stupid makeup! This is a delivery company, not a damn beauty pagent!"

"Spluh - how typical," Amy pouted. "Obviously you don't want anyone else looking cute while you're busy trying to be masculine."

"Hey!" Leela narrowed her eye dangerously. "I've had enough of those kind of comments from you," she said.

"Well I've had enough of you bossing me around!"

"I'm your Captain! That's my job!"

The two women glared at each other for a long moment.

"...Cow," Amy muttered.

Leela's open palm flashed through the air and slapped hard against Amy's cheek.

"Guh!" Amy blinked back tears, gaped, and then reflexively slapped the cyclops back, the sharp stinging contact echoing in the Planet Express hangar.

The both looked too stunned to speak for a moment...

...then lunged at each other...

...and began kissing passionately as they fell to the floor in a tangle of limbs.


 
Well... I can see it happening. Probably just like that.

[Reply #364 on:]

That was so terrible I think you gave me cancer!

[Reply #365 on:]

You ARE cancer.
And I am the... what cures cancer?

[Reply #366 on:]

          Ok.  ....enough spamming       Thing is, if Amy were to go lesbian with any other female character, I honestly won't care! Have her go back in time and get it on with Fry's mom for all I care or for what its worth. But Leela? NO!!!  I just can't see it any other way. I can't even see Leela with any other guy. It's just not happening! To me, it's pure law that Leela is with Fry, and vise versa. :vents: :checks pulse: Ok, I feel alittle better now....

[Reply #367 on:]

Even though she's been with multiple male sex partners throughout the series.

[Reply #368 on:]

Well don't rant at me, I never suggested a violation of 'pure law'.

@coldangle: I'm much worse than cancer.

I'm contagious!

[Reply #369 on:]

Oh come on, what is Fry and Leela never happens? What if they try and Fry isn't what Leela wants? Screw your beliefs for a minute and think. Now in all cannon they will get together and be happy, but think of reality, wiould it work? And if it doesn't do you want Leela or Fry to be alone forever because of it?

[Reply #370 on:]

Canon, jle. Canon.

Now, I've never said that Fry and Leela had to get together. Never. Ever. At all. I would prefer it, certainly. But what if they try and Leela isn't what Fry wants? I, personally, myself, will be categorically satisfied so long as both of them are satisfied. So really, my 'beliefs' don't contradict any of your ideas at all. Unless, of course, you want one or both of them to be unhappy... But then again, I know you too well for that.   

The real calcium stick I have to pick with you is why exactly you are implying that being alone forever (in this sense) is a bad thing.

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You know, I'm starting to think Fry and Leela will never be a couple. It was like on another show where everyone thought these two people were going to become a couple, and they didn't. That was such a suprise I didn't dare watch the show ever again. Anyway, I can now only hope.

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In all honestly, I just dont see any other way happening... You may have your "What Ifs", but so does the Professor's "What If" machine. What it's all going to come down to, honestly, is what the writers write. Would Leela be happy if she were to marry Fry? Haven't we seen Fansworth Paradox, or Time Keeps on Slipping? Leela getting married in those episodes, and we all know Fry didnt really trick her into marriage in TKOS. I hope my point is getting across. And I know there is a possiblity that some of us could get screwed over by the writers pressing the Reset button in their relationship or tossing what was meant to be in the last final episodes and taking a new angle for Leela and Fry...      I honestly wasn't implying that everything would be smooth sailing for our two favorite characters, but I cannot accept it happening any other way..

And no, I do not read those fairy tale novels     

Xanfor, I wasn't directing my last post at anyone. In all honesty, I was just reinforcing my strong hope for what is really suppose to happen. I'd would just find it extremely upsetting if Leela tells Fry to take a hike after DHAIPT and goes with someone else.

ColdAngel, yes, she has been with multiple partners, but I doubt she would say that those she snu-snu'ed with was pure love.

I meant no ill-will torwards anyone with my "rant"  , but all I really want from all this is for the both of them to find happiness together and be happy. Why am I so completely sold on this? It's a selfish reason, really. I suffer from depression, basically, but when I became a fan of futurama, and especially a fanatic of the Fry&Leela ship, it really changed how I viewed some things, and lifted me abit out of these feelings.

In conclusion, what I want to see is Fry somehow mature or show his true side, that he showed from time to time the past few seasons of Futurama and Leela to see him as he truly is.

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Well, how you act all the time is who you truly are. Does Fry have trouble expressing what he wants Leela to see in him? Yes, but that's part of who he truly is.

[Reply #374 on:]

I wasn't implying Fry had been pretending to be someone else other than who he really is, ( tho if I were to make a fan-fic, I would use the idea    ), but who he really is is someone who deeply cares about those he loves, yet is held back by his own imperfections. I was attempting to dismiss the idea that Fry is un-intellegent, at least in my view.   
Somehow, I hope you guys continue to like me despite all this   

[Reply #375 on:]

*looks in*
Of course we still like you, good natured debates are part of PEEL.

Though I am bored of Cannon this and Cannon that, later people.
*walks out*

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Originally posted by WAVer:
          Ok.  ....enough spamming       Thing is, if Amy were to go lesbian with any other female character, I honestly won't care! Have her go back in time and get it on with Fry's mom for all I care or for what its worth. But Leela? NO!!!  I just can't see it any other way. I can't even see Leela with any other guy. It's just not happening! To me, it's pure law that Leela is with Fry, and vise versa. :vents: :checks pulse: Ok, I feel alittle better now....

Whoop, whoop, fanboy alert!

For goodness sake, WAVer, nobody suggested they wanted anything other the "the 'ship" to be canon. I ship plenty of relationships that I know are strictly not gonna happen. Take a deep breath and sit down for a while. If you can't take fanfic then stay off of PEEL.

[Reply #377 on:]

Wow. It's like somebody dropped napalm in here. It sticks to everything and the flames are everywhere.

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Originally posted by jle1993:

*looks in*
Of course we still like you, good natured debates are part of PEEL.

Though I am bored of Cannon this and Cannon that, later people.
*walks out*

Bored?



I'm not. 

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Can we call WAVer 'The Canonical Cannon'?

[Reply #380 on:]

Yes, and he shall run the Canon Cannon.

[Reply #381 on:]

Alright, here's one for the homophobes:



There, now everything's all nice and non-threatening again.

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Some people say Fry needs to mature if he wants to get with Leela...I guess that is true, but I think if Fry was "mature", he wouldn't be good ol' Fry. Fry being a bit inept and dim, made him and the Fry and Leela ship all the more endearing. I feel if Fry changed too much, the Fry and Leela ship would be boring. They kind of balance each other out with their different personalities.
 

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Originally posted by coldangel_1:

Alright, here's one for the homophobes:

Who exactly are you addressing?

 

There, now everything's all nice and non-threatening again.

What?... You mean it wasn't? 

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Originally posted by Chou:
Some people say Fry needs to mature if he wants to get with Leela...I guess that is true, but I think if Fry was "mature", he wouldn't be good ol' Fry. Fry being a bit inept and dim, made him and the Fry and Leela ship all the more endearing. I feel if Fry changed too much, the Fry and Leela ship would be boring. They kind of balance each other out with their different personalities.
 

What I find so interesting about these two is that they're practicality opposites in many ways, but their similarities cause them to come together so well.

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True, true. One trait I feel in particular brought Fry and Leela closer together, and Bender as well, is that the three of them were all very lonely in their own way. Fry didn't fit in well back in the past, Leela struggled to fit in because of her eye, and I think Bender was kind of lost as "point" to keep living.

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"I'm lonely and you're lonely, but together, we're lonely together..." 

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Originally posted by SonicPanther:
 Whoop, whoop, fanboy alert!

For goodness sake, WAVer, nobody suggested they wanted anything other the "the 'ship" to be canon. I ship plenty of relationships that I know are strictly not gonna happen. Take a deep breath and sit down for a while. If you can't take fanfic then stay off of PEEL. 

Yes, it's true. I am a fanboy. Even tho I may accept this, I'm not all that proud of it. Also, the last few posts I made, I wasn't stressing anything, but somehow, I found that as I wrote these posts, I was expressing myself in a way that I can't seem to in actual real life.     It felt good to do this   

I promise you, I have no issues, or problems with anyone who may write a fanfic seperating Leela and Fry   , but I tend to get testy if someone was to say "Leela and Fry in all their glory don't belong together", and tho I know no one said this on this thread, I was having a bad day and acted as if someone did. But I still love you all...., in a non-homo type of way   

ColdAngel_1: I love your pic, bro! I may have to add it to my personal collection of Fry&Leela art. For the record, tho, Im not homophobic, but it's just not a life-style for me.
Xanfor: I hope you still like me, and stuff. 

 

Originally posted by SonicPanther:
 What I find so interesting about these two is that they're practicality opposites in many ways, but their similarities cause them to come together so well.

Also, what makes them opposite to each other truly appeals to each other.

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Originally posted by WAVer:
 Also, what makes them opposite to each other truly appeals to each other.

That's because if they were almost the same, they'd basically know everything about each other already, and where's the fun in that? You need differences to drag the relationship out. 

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Originally posted by SonicPanther:

"I'm lonely and you're lonely, but together, we're lonely together..."   

[Reply #390 on:]

Aww man, everybody kissed and made up while I wasn't here. And I wanted to see WAVer blast somebody with the Canon Cannon. Oh well there's always next time.

By the way I really like that picture Xanfor. You are the king of driving points home. I'm even more impressed that you actually took the time to make that just to point out jle's problem with spelling. 

[Zapp]
"Kudos. I can't say I don't envy you."
[/Zapp]
(or at least your photoshop skills)

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I knew it was best for me to not touch on the topic that was spread out on to two pages (well, I did touch it lightly at the beginning...).

 

Originally posted by Chou:
One trait I feel in particular brought Fry and Leela closer together, and Bender as well, is that the three of them were all very lonely in their own way. Fry didn't fit in well back in the past, Leela struggled to fit in because of her eye, and I think Bender was kind of lost as "point" to keep living.

Does Bender play a crucial role in their relationship? On the surface of the original run of Futurama, Bender isn't too involved. But, when he is involved, he isn't much help, but he isn't set out to totally destroy the relationship. For instance, right at the first episode, he interrupted their "moment". Hey, even Fry was disgusted about this. He only joined them at that time because, as quoted, "he wanted to be a part of the moment". There's been many other moments where he spoils the moment (and not always with just Fry and Leela), though they all seem pretty unintentional. I once had this crazy, absurd theory that Bender was sent out to find Fry on December 31, 2999 and follow him around to get him to do some things or to prevent some things from happening (i.e., becoming his own grandfather, never getting together with Leela). This just seems too far-fetched, though something similar to this could be in the upcoming new movies.

Talking about the movies, I think Bender will be much more important to their relationship. From what it seems in the first movie, his involvement may have prevented Fry from ever falling in love with Leela (as I theorized in the speculation thread). I can only imagine Bender doing something so incredibly and horribly wrong, and, dare I say, against his beliefs, in the fourth movie, or, if the movie takes place in the future, realizing what he has done in the past has made the future a wild, green h- I mean "yonder".

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I didn't mean in Fry and Leela's relationship actually...I meant the trio's friendship. I feel loneliness was a big dynamic for their friendship.
The same thing goes for Fry and Leela's relationship, minus Bender.

Yeah...Bender was never very supportive of their relationship.

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He seemed pretty determined to get Fry and Leela together in TDHAIP, though.

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True, that shows a little improvement over TKOS where Bender basically tells Fry to get over Leela.

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Originally posted by Chou:
True, that shows a little improvement over TKOS where Bender basically tells Fry to get over Leela.

I don't remember that. He was pretty discouraging in Parasites Lost though.

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Oh...maybe I was getting them mixed up. ^^; I haven't seen TKOS or Parasites Lost in a while, so my memory is probably bad.

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He intentionally didn't pawn Fry's gift for Leela in The Sting. Although that took place in Leela's comatose delusion, so it may mean little.

In Parasites Lost, when Fry and Leela exhibit physical intimacy, Bender's little curious cockney "Wots all this then?" outburst actually sounds somewhat delighted.

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BTW, you didn't answer my question.

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Leela: (sexfully) I'll think of something.
Leela: Oh, that's the corniest thing I've ever heard! Let me show you the bedroom.
Leela: I don't have words to say how wonderful you are, Fry.
Leela: I'm still seduced from before.

...And he traded it away for the satisfaction of finding out if Leela would love him for himself. Wow. I caved in to a girl who I knew would never come close to being my "dreamgirl" yet Fry turns down the sole object of his desire for a little chunk of self esteem. I know this is well-trod ground here, but I can't watch this episode or even see a framegrab from it without dwelling on this moment of choice.