Once More, Into the Deep: or, I love Futurama, it goes so well with my soul...

[Reply #80 on:]

 

Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
Fry_B, I disagree that you can always help physical attractiveness.

Like I'm short, that can't be helped.

As you can see from the reactions, not many men mind women being short. I have had mostly short g'friends and the best and permanent one    is short. The only thing to watch is your weight, it is exacerbated by height. Big deal.

 

I get acne, I've tried practically every treatment I can get (except laser surgery or whatever) but they wont go away. So that can't be helped.

As Venus says, there's nothing wrong with that, try it if you can afford. Jewish people are known to be wealthy, so ...    Seriously, my better half had horrible acne. Horrible. Until she tried a treatment in Germany - Germany is a social state (like AUS used to be a looong time ago) so insurance paid for it when we lived there. She got rid of it. Permanently. She has not got perfect cheeks, but a huge improvement. I will ask her what it was; I know there was a prob if you were pregnant so take care    But regardless, I loved her with acne and I love her without acne. Quietly and deeply (ta-raaa!).

 

I can't wear make up because it gives me more pimples and that's the last thing I want.

Basically I saw through the pimples    and yes make-up made it worse, even now she can't have much (but no need, now that she's married I'm all she needs - mwhahaha - ...NO! Back to the kitchen! Now!)

 

I'm not really tanned at all because me skin just doesn't tan. It burns and then peels off and I go back to normal. And I'm not gonna wear fake tan every day so that can't be helped.

Amazing... that is also similar. Ok, do this: look at my Snoo-Snoo pic again in the DD thread and try to get someone looking like me. He will like you as you are! How about that?

 

So unless you want everyone to have plastic surgery (which I think is wrong), a lot of people can't help ugliness.

Meh - why is it wrong? Some religious reason? Well then get those strings of hair (what the heck are they called? sideburns?) like the orthodox guys, go wail at the Wall (no offence, just ranting) and forget the physical aspect.

Also a lot of this can be linked to age and hormones. When some girls had lots of pinmples back in my home world they used to say 'it'll go away when you marry'. You know what - that was true more often than not. I'm not implying anything   .

[@ ColdAngel number One]CA, I forgot to thank you for clarifying my post re inequality of sexes, I meant of course different and not unequal. And yes, a difference to celebrate.

[@ Shiny] Shiny, if you can still hear us, I was just joking re helmets and armours and the like, don't get offended and come back if you can, this thread needs you. There.

And to finally link to Futurama: well Leela is tall and has a nice cheek, but has enourmous forearms (she says, maybe because of that thingy she wears?) and large shoe size and so on. Now THAT can't be 'helped' either, but can be concealed used in smart ways.

[@ CA again]I know, CA, now you say this has turned from a women's health to a women's beauty counselling thread. Meh. I'd counsel you too if you faced your demons and accepted that you desperately need a strong policewoman [used gag]to fine you for being too sexeeeey [/used gag] 

[Reply #81 on:]

 

Originally posted by any1else:
It's just that personally I've never felt very attractive, probably stemming from all the other girls my age seeming to have boyfriends and myself not having anybody express any interest...but I think it also had something to do with my shyness.
As for attractiveness of the other person...I don't like to judge on looks. Never seemed right to me. I do find people can become attractive in looks the more you get to know them, or less attractive, depending on how you think of them. That's why I'll never get anywhere...nobody ever gets the chance to know me because I barely speak at social functions...or go to many in the first place.    Meh.

Maz (is that your nickname? From what? I am lost with the AUS tendency to add a 'z' to all names), that means nothing. A very good friend of mine was like that and was a virgin when she married. She now leads a full life with her smart and understanding husband and lovely baby (heheheh... sounds like the Romanticorp couple in L&R but it's all true I swear by the RobotDevil, so watch out or I'll prod you if you say anything)

So ditch that marriage bitterness and skepticism (I hope I speled spelled right, I gotta go to sleep so I won't check it anymore) - meeting the one is going to happen when you expect it least and when it has to happen (i.e. when the Nibblonians allow it).

And if not, you'll die a virgin. So what? [Shivers] Hmmmm...

[Reply #82 on:]

 

Originally posted by Fry_B:
  Maz (is that your nickname? From what? I am lost with the AUS tendency to add a 'z' to all names), that means nothing. A very good friend of mine was like that and was a virgin when she married. She now leads a full life with her smart and understanding husband and lovely baby (heheheh... sounds like the Romanticorp couple in L&R but it's all true I swear by the RobotDevil, so watch out or I'll prod you if you say anything)

So ditch that marriage bitterness and skepticism (I hope I speled spelled right, I gotta go to sleep so I won't check it anymore) - meeting the one is going to happen when you expect it least and when it has to happen (i.e. when the Nibblonians allow it).

And if not, you'll die a virgin. So what? [Shivers] Hmmmm...

Maz (noun) - Souper word meaning: Idiot with a nose.
Yeah, I never understood how my peers at school got 'Mazza' from my actual name, but I grew to like the shortened version of 'Maz' so it lives that way now.

Scepticism, eh? Well, my 'meh' at the end of the previous post, to me, implied that I don't really care either way. If I end up finding someone and loving (what the hell does that mean anyway?) them, I just can't see myself feeling the desire to get married. Maybe I'll be with them my whole life, maybe I won't. Maybe I'll have kids with them, maybe I won't. Maybe I'll find someone else, or maybe I'll live alone and enjoy it. Does it really matter? I'm just going with the flow for my own life, and picking on aspects of other peoples' (even fictional ones!) as I go. Is that so wrong? 

[Reply #83 on:]

@ Venus: Well that's great if it works for you but I think people should be happy with what they've got and not focus so much on physical appearances. Too much emphasis is placed on that it today's society. I want people to like me for my personality, not for how good I look. Unless there is something seriously wrong with someone, it's a waste of money.

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I will see Cyber's opinion and raise it one anti-society rant.

I agree with surgery to correct obvious deformities, scarring or other injuries, things like that; that's fair enough and a good use of the medical technology.
But to me, anything more than that is the height of vanity and indicative of the kind of thing wrong with transient decadent western culture. Without even going into the obvious problem of it being a frivilous use of currency and medicine to smoothe out a cheekbone when millions are dying of starvation and disease... the whole thing is just distressingly self-absorbed and reeks of mental illness. Not wanting to look like who you are or becomeing convinced that you are a botched job or incomplete, etc. This is a psychological disorder.
Just my opinion on the subject. I'll say no more.

[Reply #85 on:]

 

Originally posted by Venus:
What's wrong with plastic surgery? I've had it, and i turned out okay.

Cuteness reduction surgery? 

[Reply #86 on:]

 

Originally posted by coldangel_1:
I will see Cyber's opinion and raise it one anti-society rant.

I agree with surgery to correct obvious deformities, scarring or other injuries, things like that; that's fair enough and a good use of the medical technology.
But to me, anything more than that is the height of vanity and indicative of the kind of thing wrong with transient decadent western culture. Without even going into the obvious problem of it being a frivilous use of currency and medicine to smoothe out a cheekbone when millions are dying of starvation and disease... the whole thing is just distressingly self-absorbed and reeks of mental illness. Not wanting to look like who you are or becomeing convinced that you are a botched job or incomplete, etc. This is a psychological disorder.
Just my opinion on the subject. I'll say no more.

That's exactly what I meant!

[Reply #87 on:]

I know. I just rephrased it in an angrier way 

[Reply #88 on:]

Hello, Shiny here.  I’m not dead, I’m not sulking, I’m not abducted by aliens.  I lost Internet.

What do you do when Suckswestern Bell screws your phone and DSL up for the weekend before Xmas, and you can’t even shop because you have to wait around for the phone guy...?

You finish a filk you’ve been playing with, out of sheer boredom. 

(Yeah, yeah, silver linings....  )

Anyway, it’s shippy, so I’m putting it here - in the DD thread particularly because it’s about things Fry and Leela would not actually say out loud to each other, unless their hearts could communicate directly.  (You can do that in songs.  I swear.  It’s in the Official Songwriter’s Rulebook, page 324 (paperback edition).  Would I lie?)

  If you’ve never heard the original song before, it’s for two voices (Cat Stevens did both himself) trading verses; In the last two verses, when one “voice” is singing, the other does a soft countertune behind it.  I’ve put the lines of the countertunes in parenthesis & italics, on the end of line they’re sung behind (more or less).

~~~~~~~~~~

LEELA and FRY
(Tune: “Father and Son,” Cat Stevens)

FRY:[/small]
Leela, please, go out with me,
Just a dinner, and a movie -
Or a walk in the park,
I'd just like to be with you.
Let me try, one more time,
To show you how I feel;
I really only want a chance to make you happy.

I know once, I wasn't sure
If we were right together,
But I'm certain of it now; can't you feel it?
I know I'm not your ideal man,
But I'll do the best I can;
I'm not the smartest guy, I know -
But I love you so.


LEELA:[/small]
It’s so hard, ‘cause even I
Just don't understand the reason why
I'm drawn to him, but can't tell if I love him...
From the moment that we met,
He defied all expectations;
There's a chance for us to be,
But I have to wait and see;
I have to wait and see.


FRY: (Leela:)[/small]
Leela please go out with me (Wait...and... )
Just to dinner and a movie (see... )
Or a walk in the park (No one...no one can make)
I'd just like to be with you  (this decision... )
Let me try one more time ( for me... )
To show you how I feel
I really only want a chance to make you happy (but me.... )

LEELA: (Fry)[/small]
All the heartache that I've known (Please...be -... )
Makes me think I'm better off alone, ( - leive...)
And I'm scared that I can't unlearn that lesson. (I'm not...so smart, I know)
Every time I'm with you, (But I love you... )
I feel the home I never knew - (...so...)
So there's a chance for us to be,
But I have to wait and see.

I have...to wait and see.

~~~~~~~~~~

[Reply #89 on:]

Oooh, very sweet and cool. Clever adaptation.

[Reply #90 on:]

I must be in the minority here:  If somebody feels taht they need plastic surgery, then they should get it.  Now I'm not suggesting something to the horrendous degree like Michael Jackson, but to some people, a slight imperfection (real or imagined) can be devestating to their self confidence.  My first wife felt like her nose was too big, so I paid for her to have a rhinoplasty reduction.  To me, she was still the same beautiful German gal who befriended me during a rough time in my life, but the air of confidence it gave her was worth a thousand times what I paid for the surgery.

Now I'm a beautiful sight to look at - I have scars on my forehead from blading during my pro-wrestling days, huge scars on my right leg from a faciotomy because of the results of a rattlesnake bite, a six inch scar on my gut from being stabbed by an enraged guy in Africa and my right hand is now mildly deformed after the serious break earlier this year.  Add the splotch on my right abdomen from a bad case of road rash resulting from being thrown off a motorcycle.  However, I feel each scar has a story behind it and I wear them like some perversed sort of jewelry.  My hair is going gray faster than a bowl of Vicoden disappears at Rush Limbaugh's house.  I'm fat and don't care - the people who know me accept me because of my personality, intellect and take-no-prisoners attitude, not for my appearance.

As for Shiny, glad to hear that the aliens didn't get you. 

[Reply #91 on:]

I think the same about scars myself, though I understand why other people (women especially) would want them removed.
As for little quibbles about things like noses, you say real or imagined... but if it's imagined I feel the healthier option would be to address that psychological issue.
Still, each to their own. It's no skin off my nose.... hah... a pun, you see? Hehe...

[Reply #92 on:]

Well, with Lisa her nose was a little large for her face.  Much like Leela being taunted with  "one Eye", Lisa grew up with "Big Nose".  She was very sensitive about it (it didn't bother me, but it was disproportionate to her face).  When she became my girlfriend, then my manager, I was able to save money instead of blowing it as soon as I made it.  That was my Birthday gift to her - a trip to a plastic surgeon in Atlanta, Georgia and the resulting nose job.  After the surgery, she became a very different person - very outgoing and extroverted; she quit trying to hide her face and smiled much more.

Sometimes the taunts from childhood can't be as easily dealt with Psychology.  Sometimes it takes deleting the flaw to get over the psychological problem.

And yeah, your pun. [Sweet Clyde]Ha ha.  ha ha. ha ha.[/Sweet Clyde]

[Reply #93 on:]

Heh heh... it was funny because it was unintentional. 

[Reply #94 on:]

 

Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
Abt acne...

Cyber, although you have not answered me, I know how bad it was for her so I have not forgotten.

I got the treatment details but it's really off-topic. I can send it to your e-mail if you like (addr req'd)

[Reply #95 on:]

Application of straight vodka to the affected area can stave off acne and cold sores.
Methylated Spirits is good too, but vodka is better.

[Reply #96 on:]

 

Originally posted by Shiny:
Hello, Shiny here.  I’m not dead, I’m not sulking, I’m not abducted by aliens.  I lost Internet.

Well..come back Shiny!

Somehow NebulaGod heard my call and threw you back to Earth...er..right ?
(Ok change a few things to adapt that to the phone guy, Internet and DD thread)

OK, I'm stumped. The lyrics sound very nice but really I have to listen to that song (maybe I know it but I'm hopeless with names and stuff) and then I'll be back  I did not even know what a filk was  . That's foreign languages for you - you still have gaps after years and years and you don't even realise. Anywayz.

Shiny, I would have been in the Internet Cafe around the corner (well not where I live, that's next ..err...70ks - do you speak Ks or just miles?) the next minute  yeah, I know, the phone guy never says when he's going to come over..

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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Application of straight vodka to the affected area can stave off acne and cold sores.
Methylated Spirits is good too, but vodka is better.

Metho can make you blind - same as masturbation - did you know that CA? You drink one and practice the other - you'll end up doubly blind.   

Just the stuff to put in the Son of a DD thread. Well, Bender could have said that - HINT for the next series of eps. BTW those bastards showed Anthology of Interest 1  again - wasn't that shown quite recently ? Do they want to put people off Futurama or what? CA, get your sword and follow me. I found out where they live.

Meh - it's all urban legends...just like marriage for acne. Did anyone actually read my long posts ? I thought so  Not my fault I have things to do when you people rant about.

[Reply #98 on:]

Yes, I did notice that. The scumfucks. They don't know what they're doing...

[Reply #99 on:]

A question for the PEELers that happen to stumble across this thread. I exemplify by using Fry, but you can swap it over to the other side - I see no big difference.

Would you have done what Fry did in the first bedroom scene Parasites Lost?

That is, would you care about and accept something that would make the woman / man you love love you back, even if that something would turn you into something a little different (but not freaky)? Or would you insist that she / he must love you as you are, even if you knew that the chance of that was rather remote?

I won't even mention turning down a night of passionate sex (well we can assume) to get rid of the something that helped you become lovable by the woman / man of your dreams. That would cloud your judgement

[Reply #100 on:]

 

Originally posted by Fry_B:
That is, would you care about and accept something that would make the woman / man you love love you back, even if that something would turn you into something a little different (but not freaky)? Or would you insist that she / he must love you as you are, even if you knew that the chance of that was rather remote?

I'd liken that to wanting to change my appearance to get someone to like me. I'd feel like I had cheated myself if I did something like that. It's not worth changing yourself for someone else, you need to do it for you. That is if you even need to change in the first place...Maybe Leela should think about changing some of her vainity if she wants to be with me! Er, Fry I mean...   
Yeah, I'd prefer to be loved as I am, although I'd always be suspicious that they didn't...especially if they ran off and never spoke to me again.

[Reply #101 on:]

 

Originally posted by Fry_B:
That is, would you care about and accept something that would make the woman / man you love love you back, even if that something would turn you into something a little different (but not freaky)? Or would you insist that she / he must love you as you are, even if you knew that the chance of that was rather remote?

So, in a very convoluted way, you're asking if we'd get rid of the worms like Fry did? Heavens to Betsy man, you sure have a confusingly whimsical turn of phrase... it branches all over the place and seems to always take the longest path to reach its destination.
But forgive me my quibbles, I am English masters student so I do tend to be an anal bastard about the written word at times. Ignore it.

To your question...
Since I have little to no care or understanding of who and what I am currently, the situation with performance-enhancing worms wouldn't trouble me. I'd see it as similar in essence to an attractive haircut or a spiffy new jacket - these things are used to enhance one's image without moral qualms, so why not worms?
People can take a long road or a short road to improve themselves. Get muscles by working out, or get them through steroids. Get brains by going to University, or wetwire a computer database to your frontal lobe. Either way, the intent and outcome are both the same so there's no difference. The only problem in my mind would be if the source of the individual's enhanced attributes was kept a secret. In Parasites Lost, they, at the end, knew where it was coming from. Knowing that, they could both have accepted it - mutually-beneficial symbosis of the human organism is commonplace anyway, and indeed there are many parasites that we need in order to survive. One more should make no difference.
At the end of the day, I think we all agree that Fry was still himself, and Leela loved him for being himself, without the negative aspects that are, you must admit, not in any way endearing. He'd had some flaws removed, and to me there's no real difference between him removing them himself and having them removed for him - the outcome is the same and it's still him. He could have worked out at the gym and gone to school. Same dif.
So no, I wouldn't have done what he did.

[Reply #102 on:]

 

Originally posted by any1else:
 
I'd liken that to wanting to change my appearance to get someone to like me. I'd feel like I had cheated myself if I did something like that. It's not worth changing yourself for someone else, you need to do it for you. That is if you even need to change in the first place...Maybe Leela should think about changing some of her vainity if she wants to be with me! Er, Fry I mean...   
Yeah, I'd prefer to be loved as I am, although I'd always be suspicious that they didn't...especially if they ran off and never spoke to me again.

Ok, Ok... but what if that something came by itself to you and you had to take action to get rid of it? That is, not do something to change, but do something to styop that change. A little difference. Also that that something could made you better for
yourself. Come on, think of PL!

And my answer would be something like: if that something would do what was stated and it would not damage my physical or mental health more than i would do it anyway in time, then bring it on (as a good friend of ours said before he knew what was coming to him)! If it also made me better - first of all in my system of values, that would be a welcome bonus.

I know, it's a bit simplistic - I need to go to sleep now...

[Reply #103 on:]

 

Originally posted by coldangel_1:
 
So, in a very convoluted way, you're asking if we'd get rid of the worms like Fry did? Heavens to Betsy man, you sure have a confusingly whimsical turn of phrase... it branches all over the place and seems to always take the longest path to reach its destination.

You're right. It's with intention sometimes, but often not. And it's because I try to generalise and adapt, even when it's sometimes not necessary. And it's also because I learned English in school rather than from my mother. etc etc.

But yeah my answer is the same as yours. I wonder if it's gender-related as well...

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Originally posted by Fry_B:
 Ok, Ok... but what if that something came by itself to you and you had to take action to get rid of it? That is, not do something to change, but do something to styop that change. A little difference. Also that that something could made you better for
yourself. Come on, think of PL!

I dunno, it just seems lazy to me. Even though I am lazy. But I get this funny feeling called 'guilt' when I don't do things for myself so...y'know.

[Reply #105 on:]

 

Originally posted by Fry_B:

But yeah my answer is the same as yours. I wonder if it's gender-related as well...

Possibly nihilistic. Lack of care about the content of the 'self'. Whatever form it takes is the form that it exists in. The elements that conspired to generate that form and the potential for growth of that form are immaterial, the consciousness resides in the current self and that is all that matters.
Granted, that's a rather specific facet of nihilism, but it fits here.

[Reply #106 on:]

hello

[Reply #107 on:]

 

Originally posted by Fry_B:
 Cyber, although you have not answered me, I know how bad it was for her so I have not forgotten.

I got the treatment details but it's really off-topic. I can send it to your e-mail if you like (addr req'd)

Ummm is this treatment like a cream treatment? Or like a surgery treatment? If it's a surgery treatment, I'm not interested. If it's really expensive, again I'm not interested. Yes, a lot of Jewish people do have a fair vbit of money because they are stingy. I too, am very stingy. The problem is  that I'm so stingy that I spend pretty much nothing unless it's essential. I've lived with acne since I was like 12. I'll be 18 in a couple of months so I'm kinda used to it now anyway. It would be nice if it was gone but shit happens and you just got to deal with it. But you can email me anyway if you like.
  cyberphobia@gnieslaw.com 


In regards to your question about getting rid of the worms, well I read Maz's post and I agree with her. But then I read Joel's post and he makes a very good point also. So I really don't know. Still maybe leaning a bit towards Maz.


Hello Nicky Boy, feel free to chat and discuss things with us.

[Reply #108 on:]

Everyone leans toward Maz... she has magnetism.
I do as well, but my magnet is backwards, so it repels.

[Reply #109 on:]

 

Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Everyone leans toward Maz... she has magnetism.
I do as well, but my magnet is backwards, so it repels.

Aww thats not true... entirely

[Reply #110 on:]

 

Originally posted by Cyberphobia:

Ummm is this treatment like a cream treatment? Or like a surgery treatment? If it's a surgery treatment, I'm not interested. If it's really expensive, again I'm not interested. Yes, a lot of Jewish people do have a fair vbit of money because they are stingy. I too, am very stingy. The problem is  that I'm so stingy that I spend pretty much nothing unless it's essential. I've lived with acne since I was like 12. I'll be 18 in a couple of months so I'm kinda used to it now anyway. It would be nice if it was gone but shit happens and you just got to deal with it. But you can email me anyway if you like.

Gee whiz, you treat me as if I was some kind of salesman: 'if it's that, I don't like it. If it's this, I'm not interested. And I'm used to it anyway'. Well if you love your acne and don't like the treatment or you're not interested in it, boo-hoo, I'm devastated.

This kinda cut my apetite for further details, so to cut to the chase, this is it and this is what someone says about it. NOTE: if you tried it already, I am sorry I wasted your time.   

Oh and BTW your attitude towards people that do try to help you may also worsen your condition. Back in my homeworld they used to say 'God does not beat you up with a stick' meaning there are other ways for NebulaGod to discipline rogues - so watch it ColdAngel!

[Reply #111 on:]

Hmmph? What? ...What with the threats?

[Reply #112 on:]

Wow, that's a lot of warnings and side effects and things! I'll look into it.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to upset you.

[Reply #113 on:]

 

Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Hmmph? What? ...What with the threats?

Bulldust my friend... just meaning somethign like don't be nasty or NebulaGod will get you... in his / her / its ways (i.e. not directly beating you with a stick - GET IT, GET IT?)

I thought you got used to my twisted rantings.

[Reply #114 on:]

 

Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
Wow, that's a lot of warnings and side effects and things! I'll look into it.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to upset you.

That's because only nasty stuff really works. Let me know if it worked for you - I like to know I did a good deed once in a while (or ever). Even if it's in a few years. My E-Mail is in my profile.

[Reply #115 on:]

 

Originally posted by Fry_B:
 don't be nasty or NebulaGod will get you... in his / her / its ways

I fear no God! RARR!!

[Reply #116 on:]

Who do you fear then?

[Reply #117 on:]

Gypsies.
They're nomads, you know. Small hands...

[Reply #118 on:]

Heey what's up everyone - XMas mood already? I am missing for a day and the new DD thread falls on the concrete?

Weeell... in ANY case if I get too drunk to be back here again tommorrow - as usual after everyone has already spilt their gutz - then:

! MERRY XMAS gals & guys !

Life is what you make it. Life is limited (CA quit going 'Peh'). Life sucks and was never meant to be easy. So get on with it!

And go & see that two XMas eps again - 'tis the Season - where's that bloody snow ?? I envy everyone that has to showel snow now...for about 30 mins. Then it goes away

[Reply #119 on:]

Peh.

Merry X-mas to you and yours as well, and everyone else.